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MHP368

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I think you paint with too broad a brush , like...the hypnagogic effect from being at a rony robbins event IS THE POINT

Thats why he has no few books vs the amount of live events he does , he got started with nlp and hypnosis and gestalt therapy and yeh jim rohn but anyone can write a goals list or make a vision board or wtf ever.

You pay the 800 dollars and fly half across the country to experience that so you can leave all super pumped up and actually execute or whatever.

I think if you could say anything broadly about the self help movement (negatively) its that the act of reading a book fills an emotional need - the authors know this , its not really a secret (on this forum we call it action faking)

Idk what the angle is now that print sells a lot less but this was huge in the 80's and 90's , look up some of these authors and the sheer amount of stuff they pushed out

I remember when "the secret" got big , they had like entire aisles at bookstores that were just "law of attraction" books regurgitating the same stuff (one series the hook was that the information was being telepathically picked up from an interdimensional being or something?)

Anyway , i'll admit I like reading for readings sake (read that as "I use it to procrastinate a lot") but at least i'm insightful enough to recognize that. One handy rule of thumb I've found is if I have a problem I need to tackle (and the solution involves learning) , "three book limit". Also before reading the first book you have to have done some massive action toward the goal in some other way (never leave the scene of a decision / new goal without having taken massive action)
 

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I don't know where I'd be without self-help. Probably would have stuck a .38 in my mouth in the mid-90s.

Same but without your books.

As for the OP yeah, some people get sucked in and turn into Self-Help Junkies. But self-help is a tool, and as with every tool, it's about how you use it, the tool itself doesn't do you any good or bad.

I have stopped reading self-help books for the most part, because I feel like I was reading more for the sake of reading more, thinking I was doing myself a favor. Nowadays I pick up this type of book only if I plan to immediately implement what it talks about into my life.
 

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Nowdays I pick up this type of book only if I plan to immediately implement what it talks about into my life.
That's the only way it should be done IMO.
It's still a slippery slope from time to time, getting hyped by a book or concept you can't immediately use, but for the most part I try to learn what I need in order to tackle my current and immediate next problem.
 

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Same but without your books.

As for the OP yeah, some people get sucked in and turn into Self-Help Junkies. But self-help is a tool, and as with every tool, it's about how you use it, the tool itself doesn't do you any good or bad.

I have stopped reading self-help books for the most part, because I feel like I was reading more for the sake of reading more, thinking I was doing myself a favor. Nowadays I pick up this type of book only if I plan to immediately implement what it talks about into my life.

Exactly...

 

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Lol look at the word “self-help” closely. The word “self” is in it. You have to put in the work to help yourself. Not expect somebody to come in and do all the self-discovery for you. Lol. So I’m not sure how that’s a cult.
 

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You're right about all of that.

But...

Building a business is real

Being positive and improving your life with your attitude is real

Getting in great shape is real



Suckers get suckered and easily fall into cults and other bullshit, so just don't be a sucker and focus on what's real.
I agree, I'm kind of wondering if there is a bigger issue here with the OP though. Is trying to use this argument because he's afraid of taking action toward business?
 

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