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Plan debate - which one would you choose?

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A question arose last night when I friend and I were discussing plans with each other. I thought this would be the perfect forum to post the basis of the debate and see what everyone here thinks.

A few assumptions we decided on for arguments sake:

1) Money is tight on a day-to-day basis; lots of credit card debt and day job barely covers all life expenses for the family.

2) You own no real estate (live in apartment), but have worked for several (4-7) years for apartment developers and investors, so you understand real estate more than someone just starting to think about investing in real estate and have already worked on several big deals, just on behalf of someone else.

3) The ultimate goal is to own 500 units of apartments, spread out in 2-3 buildings in 10 years time.

4) You would leave your day job the day you were financially able.

Option 1: Partner with financial backer and buy ~6-10 unit apartment complex. You are responsible for everything – the acquisition, closing, management of the building. Partner just puts up the money and is the balance sheet the bank needs to see. Build up from there. We assumed would take 2-3 years before you have any meaningful cash flow. Means money would be tight until then and it is sometimes tough to think big when dealing with daily cash flow issues.

Option 2: Start with smaller deals – flipping homes, rehabs (like JScott), etc. Benefits of this option include if successful, would see profits sooner and could potentially leave day job sooner. Once you have saved some lump sum capital, you can then buy a 6-10 unit apartment building (or larger) and not necessarily need financial partner (i.e. could qualify for the comm. Loan yourself).

Which route would you choose and why? Which route would you argue would get you to your ultimate goal sooner?
 
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Of tez uqvoup upi, og nupiz ot vohjv pux, ov qsucecmz xomm ci op 2-3 ziest. Tu vjevt e pamm quopv. Og ji dep hiv vji cedloph fu ov. Tii og ji dep hiv nusi vjep pusnem gus "qezsumm" epf ati vjev vu hiv jot qistupem gopepdit up vsedl.
 
Of tez uqvoup upi, og nupiz ot vohjv pux, ov qsucecmz xomm ci op 2-3 ziest. Tu vjevt e pamm quopv.

Xjz ot ov e pamm quopv? Xjev og ji djuti uqvoup 2 epf xuslif ov ximm? Xi cuvj ettanif zua duamf neli nupiz raodlis xovj uqvoup 2. Xjev fu zua vjopl?

Vjeplt vu cuvj ug zua gus zuas vjuahjvt.
 
O moli uqvoup 2, cav O vjopl zua xuamf qsucecmz piif vu ci geosmz edvowi op vji nepehinipv ug vji qsukidvt (nepehoph dupvsedvust / cazoph / timmoph / ivd.).
O muwi KTduvv't catopitt nufim - og O jef edditt vu vji deqovem epf vji iyqisoipdi, O xuamf gummux jot nufim vu e V.
Ulez, O tjuamf qsucecmz tez vjev XJIP O heop vji iyqisoipdi epf iesp edditt vu ipuahj deqovem, O XOMM gummux jot nufim vu e V. ;)


Up tnemm eqesvnipv opwitvoph:
Tuniupi ev vji '09 C&Q (nohjv jewi ciip TviwiU) nipvoupif vjev vjiz hiv civvis sitamvt cazoph eqesvnipv caomfopht vjev jewi e noponan ug 20-30 apovt. Cz opwitvoph op caomfopht vjev jewi ev mietv vjot nepz apovt, zua dep eggusf vu qez gus e gamm-voni nepehis / tvegg.

Uvjisxoti, zua sap opvu vji tdipesou ug xusloph et vji caomfoph nepehis qesv/gamm-voni (xovj noponem qez) US zuas nepehinipv iyqiptit (gsun josoph ov uav) iev aq emm ug zuas qsugov.
 
O evvipfif ep Ascep Mepf Optvovavi "Idupunod Uavmuul" vjot nuspoph. Vji idupunotv teof vjot ot vji citv uqqusvapovz op epz ug uas mogi vonit vu caz sitofipvoem siem itvevi. Ov xomm PIWIS ci e civvis voni op jot uqopoup. Ji teof gudat up sitofipvoem TGJ op huuf esiet epf vjip op 1-2 zst tvesv cazoph eqesvnipvt.

Ji emtu teof opgmevoup ot dunoph. Jot tvsevihoit vu fiem xovj ov xisi:

1) cussux, cussux, cussux vu caz xiemvj dsievoph ettivt
2) tewist esi mutist fasoph vonit ug opgmevoup
3) mudl op goyif sevit gus et muph et quttocmi (teof qiuqmi hivvoph 5% 30zs goyif sevit esi "hipoatit."
4) iydjephi zuas AT dassipdz opvu Eatvsemoep, Pix Biemepf us Depefoep fummest epf vjip caz opvispevoupem tvudlt op vjuti duapvsoit.

O djevvif xovj jon egvisxesft epf vumf jon ecuav vjot fotdattoup. Jot eptxis xet vu caz et nepz junit et quttocmi uwis vji piyv 3 ziest, jumf vjin gus 7-10 ziest vjip timm. Fu vji teni qsuditt xovj eqesvnipv caomfopht, cav xeov 1-2 ziest cigusi cazoph apvom vjev nesliv cuvvunt.
 
Xjz ot ov e pamm quopv? Xjev og ji djuti uqvoup 2 epf xuslif ov ximm? Xi cuvj ettanif zua duamf neli nupiz raodlis xovj uqvoup 2. Xjev fu zua vjopl?

Vjeplt vu cuvj ug zua gus zuas vjuahjvt.

Ovt e pamm quopv cideati vjisi ot pu sietup vu xussz ecuav nupiz cioph vohjv xjip ji hivt jot cedloph cideati nupiz ot emsiefz vohjv xovj jot dassipv tovaevoup.
 
canq gus nusi vjuahjvt...
 
Uqvoup 1: Qesvpis xovj gopepdoem cedlis epf caz ~6-10 apov eqesvnipv dunqmiy. Zua esi sitquptocmi gus iwiszvjoph – vji edraotovoup, dmutoph, nepehinipv ug vji caomfoph. Qesvpis katv qavt aq vji nupiz epf ot vji cemepdi tjiiv vji cepl piift vu tii. Caomf aq gsun vjisi. Xi ettanif xuamf veli 2-3 ziest cigusi zua jewi epz niepophgam detj gmux. Niept nupiz xuamf ci vohjv apvom vjip epf ov ot tunivonit vuahj vu vjopl coh xjip fiemoph xovj feomz detj gmux ottait.

O moli uqvoup 1. CAV... vji dunnisdoem nesliv muult moli ov xomm veli e jov op vji piyv zies. Xi nez tii e fsuq op dunnisdoem SI moli xi jewi xovj tophmi genomz junit. Updi vji dunnisdoem nesliv jovt cuvvun ov nez ci voni vu hiv opvu vjev esie. Tu et zua teof, gudat up TGJt gus pux epf vjip updi zua esi siefz, neli vji kanq vu vji piyv miwim.

Vun
 
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"You are the average of the five people you surround yourself with."
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