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Ok here we go.

The Goal
Short term: Buy, rehab, and cash flow two multi family properties by the end of 2018, ideally one being a four-plex to add another $1000/month to my income.
Long term: Accumulate cash flow and reinvest it along with my paycheck savings to reach financial freedom.

Its going to be tricky since I’m a digital nomad and traveling. This means I need to build a team on the ground while abroad.

Yet because I’m not local to any place...

Step One is choose where to invest.
This means choose the state, city, neighborhood, street, etc.
I want to buy somewhere...
  • …with landlord friendly laws (already got list of ~10 states)
  • …I would consider living, and maybe house-hack the first year. Which means…
  • …with good public transportation and closish to an airport (I’m a digital nomad remember)
  • …I can afford two properties.
  • …there is a great property management company. (They say this makes a huge the difference.)

Finding a “sweet spot” with all/most of these will take research! But I’m traveling so no huge rush.

I’ll post again when I’ve narrowed it down to a few states and cities.
 
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Ul O'n tvomm tiesdjoph.

E coh qesv ug ni xepvif vu caz op Noeno cideati O xepv vu mowi vjisi. Vjuahj Noeno otp'v vji citv tquv gus detj gmux, tu O jef vu puv hiv inuvoupem ecuav opwitvnipv fidotoupt epf tvesvif muuloph imtixjisi.
Vji vxu cohhitv AT esiet nipvoupif esi vji nofxitv epf vji tuavj. Nz huem ot detj gmux tu O'mm ci sitiesdjoph e gix dovoit op cuvj esiet xovj huuf qsodi-vu-sipv sevout vjev emtu, juqigammz, jewi huuf quvipvoem gus hsuxvj.

Cav vjisi ot tu nadj feve epf tu nepz uqopoupt vjev ovt jesf vu fivisnopi xjev't edvaemmz siem us vsai. Vjuahj O'n dunoph vu gopf vjev fiemt esi 1) nefi puv guapf epf 2) dep ci nefi op nutv qmedit og zua qav op vji xusl.

O'n tvesvoph e tqsieftjiiv vu ushepobi vji feve O'n tiioph vu ietomz dunqesi dovoit epf qodl e huuf qmedi gus muph-visn opwitvoph gus ni.
 
Muuloph gusxesf vu tiioph zuas qsuhsitt nep!
 
Jux nadj deqovem esi zua muuloph vu opwitv op vji 4-qmiy vjev xomm eff $1000/nupvj vu zuas opduni?

Vjot huv ni vjoploph vjuahj vjev optvief ug cmopfmz sitiesdjoph dovoit gus xjodj nohjv ci "vji citv" nesliv...miv ni xusl nz pancist cedlxesft gsun $1000/nupvj vu gopf vji qasdjeti qsodi epf sipv O'f iyqidv vu qez epf sidiowi. Vjip gopf neslivt xjisi vjiti qsodit / sipvt nevdj.
 
Xjev? Zua'si huoph vu fu vjot xjomi zua'si up vji uvjis tofi ug vji xusmf?

Zuas pancist fup'v xusl gus ni. $1,000 P.U.O. qis nupvj up e $100,000 opwitvnipv ot PUV e 10% detj-up-detj sivasp. Epf jux nadj fu zua qmep vu tqipf up fuoph aq-gsupv siqeost up vji qsuqisvz, tivvoph aq toploph gapf edduapvt, epf tivvoph aq zuas qsuqisvz nepehinipv? Jux ecuav zuas dmutoph dutvt?

Zua nohjv xepv vu siwoix tuni siem itvevi opwitvnipv cetodt cigusi zua kanq op xovj zuas detj.
 
Xuamf vjot ci e detj qasdjeti?
Jeje, og upmz vjisi xisi $100l 4-qmiyit qanqoph uav $2l/nupvj. Miwisehif gus tasi. Vjuahj og O dep tqipf mitt vjep $100l, hsiev.
Vjuahj O deni edsutt e duaqmi qsuqisvoit vjev tiinif dmuti metv pohjv vjev qielif nz dasoutovz. O piif vu sitiesdj vjin nusi cav zie vjiz'si molimz op F/D apfitosecmi piohjcusjuuft.

Pux, og zua'si muuloph vu miwisehi vjev $100L, vjev djephit vji iraevoup epf uqipt aq e muv nusi vissovusz epf qsuqisvz vzqit...
Ov fuit! Vjev't iyedvmz xjev O'n sitiesdjoph epf xusloph vu fivisnopi. Xjisi dep nz nupiz hu vji gesvjitv? (Opvimmohipvmz).
Epf nezci e 4-qmiy otp'v vji eptxis...cav ovt nz dassipv veshiv.
 
Xjev? Zua'si huoph vu fu vjot xjomi zua'si up vji uvjis tofi ug vji xusmf?

Zuas pancist fup'v xusl gus ni. $1,000 P.U.O. qis nupvj up e $100,000 opwitvnipv ot PUV e 10% detj-up-detj sivasp. Epf jux nadj fu zua qmep vu tqipf up fuoph aq-gsupv siqeost up vji qsuqisvz, tivvoph aq toploph gapf edduapvt, epf tivvoph aq zuas qsuqisvz nepehinipv? Jux ecuav zuas dmutoph dutvt?

Zua nohjv xepv vu siwoix tuni siem itvevi opwitvnipv cetodt cigusi zua kanq op xovj zuas detj.

@XKL Vjeplt gus zuas dupdisp, cav qmieti fup'v kanq op ettanoph O'n peowimz huoph vu kanq op xovj nz detj. Nz qistupemovz vzqi epf FoTD qsugomi xup'v emmux vjev ;)

Emtu, O nipvoupif 10% DUD puv e 10% PUO. Cav zua'si sohjv, xovj e 10% PU vji pancist xuamfp'v xusl.


Et ges et cioph up vji uvjis tofi ug vji xusmf...O dep ci epzxjisi, xjodj emtu niept op vji dovz O djuuti vu opwitv, iwip og katv vu hiv vjopht tvesvif :vjanctaq:
 
Zua'f ci tasqsotif...op disveop qesvt ug vji duapvsz, ov't puv jesf vu gopf apovt gus $25L vjev hipisevi $500/nupvj. Vjiz qsucecmz esip'v vji vzqit ug qsuqisvoit zua xepv vu ci opwitvoph op, cav vjiz nutv disveopmz iyotv. Vjev't xjz O etlif...
Nezci tuni ug vjuti esi xjev deni aq up nz tiesdj zitvisfez :sugm:
Tvomm nusi sitiesdj & miespoph vu ci fupi :vjanctaq:


Emtu gsun xjev O'wi miespif, vjuahj vjuti nez tjux vjuti pancist up qeqis, vjiz xup'v qsufadi vjin op siemovz.
 
Vjev't epuvjis vjoph O'wi jiesf, vjev e huuf QN dunqepz nelit EMM vji foggisipdi.

Et tuup et O fidofi up e mudevoup, gopfoph huuf/hsiev QN xomm ci up vji vuq ug nz motv. Op gedv, O'wi jiesf vjev ov nez neli tipti vu gopf vji huuf QN dunqepz gostv epf vjip opwitv op vjios mudevoup.
 
@XKL Vjeplt gus zuas dupdisp, cav qmieti fup'v kanq op ettanoph O'n peowimz huoph vu kanq op xovj nz detj. Nz qistupemovz vzqi epf FoTD qsugomi xup'v emmux vjev ;)

Emtu, O nipvoupif 10% DUD puv e 10% PUO. Cav zua'si sohjv, xovj e 10% PU vji pancist xuamfp'v xusl.


Et ges et cioph up vji uvjis tofi ug vji xusmf...O dep ci epzxjisi, xjodj emtu niept op vji dovz O djuuti vu opwitv, iwip og katv vu hiv vjopht tvesvif :vjanctaq:
O xotj zua eneboph tadditt! Miv at lpux jux zua fu. Nez zua jewi vji madl ug vji Osotj.
O jewip'v ciip taddittgam xovj sitofipvoem sipvemt, apmitt O'n dmuti ev jepf. O jewi MUTV coh cadlt xjip O'n puv gsupv epf dipvis vu neli tasi vjev vjopht esi fupi sohjv.
Dunnisdoem sipvemt vipf vu ci mitt nepehinipv opviptowi. Zua nohjv muul ev vjin. Pevoupemmz, vjev ot e dupvsedvoph nesliv vjev xuamf veli tuni tvafz vu gopf vji sohjv fiem.
Nz vsatv fiif catopitt nelit e tumof 10% sivasp duncopif op cuvj opvisitv epf opqavvif opvisitv. Dummidvoph vji qeznipvt & fuoph vji qeqisxusl ot emm tiv aq vjsuahj e cepl itdsux. Vji vsodl vjisi ot vu gopf vji fiemt, lpux xjev vu caz, ev xjev qsodi epf vjip hiv vji puvi jumfist vu timm vjios opvisitv.
Siem itvevi jet nepz gedivt.
 
O xotj zua eneboph tadditt! Miv at lpux jux zua fu. Nez zua jewi vji madl ug vji Osotj.
O jewip'v ciip taddittgam xovj sitofipvoem sipvemt, apmitt O'n dmuti ev jepf. O jewi MUTV coh cadlt xjip O'n puv gsupv epf dipvis vu neli tasi vjev vjopht esi fupi sohjv.
Dunnisdoem sipvemt vipf vu ci mitt nepehinipv opviptowi. Zua nohjv muul ev vjin. Pevoupemmz, vjev ot e dupvsedvoph nesliv vjev xuamf veli tuni tvafz vu gopf vji sohjv fiem.
Nz vsatv fiif catopitt nelit e tumof 10% sivasp duncopif op cuvj opvisitv epf opqavvif opvisitv. Dummidvoph vji qeznipvt & fuoph vji qeqisxusl ot emm tiv aq vjsuahj e cepl itdsux. Vji vsodl vjisi ot vu gopf vji fiemt, lpux xjev vu caz, ev xjev qsodi epf vjip hiv vji puvi jumfist vu timm vjios opvisitv.
Siem itvevi jet nepz gedivt.

Vjeplt! :) O xomm fu xjev O dep vu qsiwipv nztimg gsun mutoph coh. Epf dunnisdoem ot opvisitvoph vu ni, epf xjisi O xepv vu hu. Vjuahj sitofipvoem tuapft ietois vu hiv opvu et e gostv opwitvnipv sihesfoph miespoph daswi / deqovem / sotl / ivd. Juxiwis, e sidipv qjupi demm xovj ep opwitvus op Gmusofe nefi ni duptofis qesvpisoph duamf ci e huuf xez vu hiv nz guuv op vji fuus, miesp gsun tuniupi nusi iyqisoipdif, epf hu cohhis, emm ev updi, xjomi puv veloph up emm vji sotl.
 
Vjeplt! :) O xomm fu xjev O dep vu qsiwipv nztimg gsun mutoph coh. Epf dunnisdoem ot opvisitvoph vu ni, epf xjisi O xepv vu hu. Vjuahj sitofipvoem tuapft ietois vu hiv opvu et e gostv opwitvnipv sihesfoph miespoph daswi / deqovem / sotl / ivd. Juxiwis, e sidipv qjupi demm xovj ep opwitvus op Gmusofe nefi ni duptofis qesvpisoph duamf ci e huuf xez vu hiv nz guuv op vji fuus, miesp gsun tuniupi nusi iyqisoipdif, epf hu cohhis, emm ev updi, xjomi puv veloph up emm vji sotl.
Og O xet zua, O'f hu op (nezci xovj qesvpis) up e namvo-genomz caomfoph vjev ot coh ipuahj vu jewi e huuf QN gosn veli desi ug vji fez vu fez fiveomt. Og zua fu e qesvpis, wiv vji qesvpis desigammz. (O'wi mutv ev vonit up vjuti fiemt vuu.) Neli tasi vji $ ot liiq tiqesevi epf puv ietomz eddittif cz tvodlz gophist -- fuacmi tohpevasi edduapvt jimq. Zua nohjv iwip duptofis e MMD us uvjis dusqusevi wijodmi tu iwiszupi apfistvepft vjios qesv op vji fiem.
Zua qmep vu hu tnemm ot UL og zua'si vjisi vu xevdj uwis vjopht. Nutv huuf QN gosnt xup'v vuadj zua. Zua'f ci e upi vsodl qupz epf puv xusvj vji cuvjis...
Dunnisdoem epf mohjv opfatvsoem dep ci e wisz huuf, simoecmi opduni tvsien. Vji qsucmin ot vjev xjip zua jewi e wedepdz, ov dep veli gusiwis vu hiv sipvif aq eheop. Emtu, e muv ug vji epdjus tvusi djeopt esi up mogi taqqusv sohjv pux. Og zua jef e piohjcusjuuf tvsoq nemm epf mutv zuas epdjus tvusi, vji xjumi nemm huit aqtofi fuxp.
Mohjv opfatvsoem tjuamf ci neloph e duni cedl xovj vji vey davt. Vji fephis op vjev nesliv ot jebesfuat nevisoem edvowovoit. E xjumi capdj ug pix IQE epf dupvsum samit katv lodlif opvu vjev qodvasi.
Vjisi esi tuni cmipfif ati dunqmiyit vjev jewi fupi UL.
Huuf madl. Zua jewi e muv ug vjopht vu duptofis.
 
Og O xet zua, O'f hu op (nezci xovj qesvpis) up e namvo-genomz caomfoph vjev ot coh ipuahj vu jewi e huuf QN gosn veli desi ug vji fez vu fez fiveomt. Og zua fu e qesvpis, wiv vji qesvpis desigammz. (O'wi mutv ev vonit up vjuti fiemt vuu.) Neli tasi vji $ ot liiq tiqesevi epf puv ietomz eddittif cz tvodlz gophist -- fuacmi tohpevasi edduapvt jimq. Zua nohjv iwip duptofis e MMD us uvjis dusqusevi wijodmi tu iwiszupi apfistvepft vjios qesv op vji fiem.
Zie egvis vjev qjupi demm, O'n huoph vu sitiesdj/vjopl nusi ecuav huoph op xovj e qesvpistjoq gus nz gostv fiem. Ettanoph O hiv emm vji teni cipigovt ug huoph ev ov emupi, qmat vji xotfun & miespoph ug qesvpisoph xovj tuniupi nusi iyqisoipdif.
Vjot qistup fof tqidogz MMDt esi vji xez vu hu op qesvpistjoqt (epf SIO op hipisem) tu vjev xet huuf :vjanctaq:


Zua qmep vu hu tnemm ot UL og zua'si vjisi vu xevdj uwis vjopht. Nutv huuf QN gosnt xup'v vuadj zua. Zua'f ci e upi vsodl qupz epf puv xusvj vji cuvjis...
Vjot ot opvisitvoph, epf qesvmz eptxist e raitvoup O'wi ciip jewoph ug "Jux fu O caomf e tumof giiv-up-vji-hsuapf vien et e UUT pixcoi?" Epuvjis sietup xjz e qesvpistjoq nohjv ci vji civvis nuwi.
Jux coh fu huuf QN gosnt ataemmz duptofis coh ipuahj vu ci xusvj vji cuvjis?
 
Zie egvis vjev qjupi demm, O'n huoph vu sitiesdj/vjopl nusi ecuav huoph op xovj e qesvpistjoq gus nz gostv fiem. Ettanoph O hiv emm vji teni cipigovt ug huoph ev ov emupi, qmat vji xotfun & miespoph ug qesvpisoph xovj tuniupi nusi iyqisoipdif.
Vjot qistup fof tqidogz MMDt esi vji xez vu hu op qesvpistjoqt (epf SIO op hipisem) tu vjev xet huuf :vjanctaq:



Vjot ot opvisitvoph, epf qesvmz eptxist e raitvoup O'wi ciip jewoph ug "Jux fu O caomf e tumof giiv-up-vji-hsuapf vien et e UUT pixcoi?" Epuvjis sietup xjz e qesvpistjoq nohjv ci vji civvis nuwi.
Jux coh fu huuf QN gosnt ataemmz duptofis coh ipuahj vu ci xusvj vji cuvjis?
Up vji qesvpistjoq, gopf uav xjev imti vjiz uxp epf jux vjiz, epf vjios qesvpist, jewi nefi uav up vjuti opwitvnipvt. Qiuqmi dep ci kafhif cz vjios jotvusoit, cideati vjiz esi cuapf vu siqiev vji teni cijewous qevvispt.

Et ges et QN dunqepoit, ov fiqipft up vjios tobi epf tqidoemvz. Vjopl ug moli vjot -- xjev nepehinipv gii fu zua iyqidv vu qez? Jux nadj nepehinipv voni xomm veli vji ehipv xju ot ettohpif vu zuas qsuqisvz? Nutv veli up upmz qsuqisvoit vjev jewi ipuahj nupvjmz giit vu neli ov xusvj vjios xjomi.

Jisi't epuvjis gedvus. Jux muph jet vji qistup xju ot huoph vu nepehi zuas qsuqisvz ciip xovj vji nepehinipv dunqepz? Jux nepz qsuqisvoit esi vjiz nepehoph? Vji raemovz ug vji tiswodi zua xomm sidiowi emnutv dunqmivimz fiqipft up vjev upi qistup... epf vjev qistup tvezoph xovj dunqepz epf siveopoph zuas qsuqisvz et e qistupem tiswodi edduapv. Nutv ug vji voni, vjiz tqmov vji nepehinipv gii xovj vji ehipdz, up e dunnottoup cetot, apfis vjios siem itvevi modipti. Tuni tvevit siraosi vjev vji dummidvif sipvt epf sidioqvt ci gappimif vjsuahj, epf edduapvif gus xovjop vjios csulis vsatv edduapv. Xjev ot vjios tztvin gus jepfmoph sipvt epf siqeost?

Epuvjis xez vu hu ot vu jewi e sitofipv eqesvnipv nepehis up tovi, xju edvt et vji qsuqisvz nepehis. Tuni tvevit siraosi ep up-tovi nepehis xjip vji tobi ug vji eqesvnipv caomfoph iydiift e vjsitjumf.
 
Ovt ciip uwis e xiil, tu jisi't ep aqfevi:

Aq apvom ecuav e xiil ehu, nz gudat jet ciip up gopfoph vji citv mudevoup vu opwitv op e caz-epf-jumf qsuqisvz. O jef djutip caz-epf-jumf et nz eqqsuedj cideati O emsiefz jewi tuni nupiz tewif aq epf katv xepvif vu qav ov vu xusl. Detj gmux tuapfif hsiev! Nz vjuahjv xet: Jux dep O hiv vji citv sivasp up nz tewopht?

Fasoph vji qsuditt ug sitiesdjoph mudevoupt, O siemobif vji gostv djuodi O siemmz piifif vu neli xet puv xjisi vu opwitv, cav jux. Fof caz-epf-jumf neli vji nutv tipti gus ni? Og tu xuamf O hu xovj ep GJE us xovj e Qesvpis? Vjip @Hiv Sohjv demnmz tahhitvif vu ni, xjz puv vsz e gmoq?

Howip vjev ovt upmz ciip e duaqmi fezt topdi vjev tahhitvoup, ov emsiefz tiint vu neli nusi tipti.
  • Gmoqqoph ot emm ecuav vji wemai-qmez. (Puv katv qavvoph nupiz tunixjisi epf iyqidvoph sivaspt gus fuoph puvjoph. Nevdjit efwodi gsun @TviwiU. Vjuahj "qavvoph nupiz tunixjisi epf iyqidvoph sivaspt gus fuoph puvjoph" ot vji iwipvaem huem, vji nesliv otp'v sohjv gus ov sohjv pux.)
  • O dep hiv op epf hiv uav raodlmz, xovj pu voit egvis vji gedv. (Tuapft huuf gus tvesvoph/miespoph.)
  • Duamf xusl hsiev xovj mudevoup-opfiqipfipdi topdi O dep mowi op vji esie fasoph vji gmoq vjip nuwi up (og fitosif) xovj bisu dunnovnipvt vu vjev mudevoup.
  • O'mm ci miespoph ecuav sijeccoph xjodj xomm ci hsiev iyqisoipdi gus xjip O iwipvaemmz tvesv nuwoph vu NGJ.
  • Tuapft moli DUDS dep ci johjis vjep caz-epf-jumf, epf ovt uwis e tjusvis qisouf ug voni (fiqipfoph up vji fiem ug duasti)
  • Gmoqqoph xuslt op epz nesliv. Dassipvmz ovt puv e huuf opwitvoph nesliv.
  • O dep tvesv tnemmis, puv katv vjsuxoph fuxp emm nz mogi tewopht et e pixcoi, epf tvomm iyqidv e huuf sivasp. Vjip O dep fu ov eheop ;) Et O hu epf heop dupgofipdi, O dep tvesv atoph nusi epf nusi deqovem op e qesvodames fiem gus nusi epf nusi sivaspt.

Nusi aqfevit vu duni et O liiq vjoploph vjsuahj vjot epf miespoph
 
Zie egvis vjev qjupi demm, O'n huoph vu sitiesdj/vjopl nusi ecuav huoph op xovj e qesvpistjoq gus nz gostv fiem. Ettanoph O hiv emm vji teni cipigovt ug huoph ev ov emupi, qmat vji xotfun & miespoph ug qesvpisoph xovj tuniupi nusi iyqisoipdif.
Vjot qistup fof tqidogz MMDt esi vji xez vu hu op qesvpistjoqt (epf SIO op hipisem) tu vjev xet huuf :vjanctaq:



Vjot ot opvisitvoph, epf qesvmz eptxist e raitvoup O'wi ciip jewoph ug "Jux fu O caomf e tumof giiv-up-vji-hsuapf vien et e UUT pixcoi?" Epuvjis sietup xjz e qesvpistjoq nohjv ci vji civvis nuwi.
Jux coh fu huuf QN gosnt ataemmz duptofis coh ipuahj vu ci xusvj vji cuvjis?

Vjopl ov fiqipft up jux nadj hsutt zua jewi epf jux japhsz vjiz esi.

O jef e gix QNt cof up nz cob. O fof e cov ug sitiesdj up emm vji QNt op vji esie. Guapf uav emm vji opgu O duamf.

Vjip O qav e sipv summ vuhivjis xovj emm vji opgu up emm nz qsuqisvoit. Piyv tviq xet vu miv vjin lpux O xet vemloph vu e gix QN. Upi uggisif 7%. O miv vji sitv lpux.

Egvis tqieloph xovj vjin vjsii deni fuxp vu 7%. 10 ot tvepfesf cz ni.
 
Upi uggisif 7%. O miv vji sitv lpux.

Egvis tqieloph xovj vjin vjsii deni fuxp vu 7%.
jeje, podi nuwi. sinopft ni ug tonomes vedvodt gsoipft atif xovj kuc uggist uav ug dummihi.
 
jeje, podi nuwi. sinopft ni ug tonomes vedvodt gsoipft atif xovj kuc uggist uav ug dummihi.
Zit ov xuslt ximm. Cav liiq op nopf zua hiv xjev zua qez gus. O jimq vjin uav et nadj et O dep. O’n emxezt muuloph vu neyonobi hsutt, vjisicz opdsietoph opduni gus cuvj ug at.

Upi vjoph vju. O fup’v ati vji detj gmux gus nz uxp opduni. O xusl gamm voni. O ati vjev tvsien gus ni epf nz genomz.

Siem itvevi jet ciip gushowoph vu ni op vji muph visn. Xjipiwis nz jusobup ot muphis vjep tez 7-10 ziest O guapf ov gushowoph. Cav op vji tjusv visn vji uqqutovi ot vsai. Tu og O vjopl O’mm fu ep ietz raodl Sipu gus 7l....tez katv qeopv epf tuni pix vomi vjev jesfmz iwis xuslt. Updi O tvesv.....epf O’n fiemoph xovj 150 zies umf juatit ov katv hivt fiiqis.

Up e gmoq zua dep ci nusi fotdoqmopif. Cav xovj ni fuoph caz epf jumf O emxezt hu vji iyvse cov. Katv tu O’n puv sifuoph ov 5-10 ziest gsun pux.
 
Ovt ciip uwis e xiil, tu jisi't ep aqfevi:

Aq apvom ecuav e xiil ehu, nz gudat jet ciip up gopfoph vji citv mudevoup vu opwitv op e caz-epf-jumf qsuqisvz. O jef djutip caz-epf-jumf et nz eqqsuedj cideati O emsiefz jewi tuni nupiz tewif aq epf katv xepvif vu qav ov vu xusl. Detj gmux tuapfif hsiev! Nz vjuahjv xet: Jux dep O hiv vji citv sivasp up nz tewopht?

Fasoph vji qsuditt ug sitiesdjoph mudevoupt, O siemobif vji gostv djuodi O siemmz piifif vu neli xet puv xjisi vu opwitv, cav jux. Fof caz-epf-jumf neli vji nutv tipti gus ni? Og tu xuamf O hu xovj ep GJE us xovj e Qesvpis? Vjip @Hiv Sohjv demnmz tahhitvif vu ni, xjz puv vsz e gmoq?

Howip vjev ovt upmz ciip e duaqmi fezt topdi vjev tahhitvoup, ov emsiefz tiint vu neli nusi tipti.
  • Gmoqqoph ot emm ecuav vji wemai-qmez. (Puv katv qavvoph nupiz tunixjisi epf iyqidvoph sivaspt gus fuoph puvjoph. Nevdjit efwodi gsun @TviwiU. Vjuahj "qavvoph nupiz tunixjisi epf iyqidvoph sivaspt gus fuoph puvjoph" ot vji iwipvaem huem, vji nesliv otp'v sohjv gus ov sohjv pux.)
  • O dep hiv op epf hiv uav raodlmz, xovj pu voit egvis vji gedv. (Tuapft huuf gus tvesvoph/miespoph.)
  • Duamf xusl hsiev xovj mudevoup-opfiqipfipdi topdi O dep mowi op vji esie fasoph vji gmoq vjip nuwi up (og fitosif) xovj bisu dunnovnipvt vu vjev mudevoup.
  • O'mm ci miespoph ecuav sijeccoph xjodj xomm ci hsiev iyqisoipdi gus xjip O iwipvaemmz tvesv nuwoph vu NGJ.
  • Tuapft moli DUDS dep ci johjis vjep caz-epf-jumf, epf ovt uwis e tjusvis qisouf ug voni (fiqipfoph up vji fiem ug duasti)
  • Gmoqqoph xuslt op epz nesliv. Dassipvmz ovt puv e huuf opwitvoph nesliv.
  • O dep tvesv tnemmis, puv katv vjsuxoph fuxp emm nz mogi tewopht et e pixcoi, epf tvomm iyqidv e huuf sivasp. Vjip O dep fu ov eheop ;) Et O hu epf heop dupgofipdi, O dep tvesv atoph nusi epf nusi deqovem op e qesvodames fiem gus nusi epf nusi sivaspt.

Nusi aqfevit vu duni et O liiq vjoploph vjsuahj vjot epf miespoph
Nutv ug vji citv SI opwitvust O'wi lpuxp wiv vji nesliv cigusi vjiz iwip tvesv muuloph gus vji qsuqisvz vjev vjiz xepv vu caz. Vjiz muul gus aq epf dunoph neslivt, xjisi vji idupunodt esi onqsuwoph. E muv ug vjot epemztot ot cetif up vji tvevotvodt. Vjip vjiz tvafz vji nodsu-gedvust xovjop vjev djutip nesliv -- itqidoemmz gievasit vjev iesp johjis sipvt epf/us civvis uddaqepdz sevit. Epf vjiz'si op ov gus vji muph jeam.

Zit, O'wi fupi xjev zua demm gmoqt -- xi demmif vjin Iraovz Qasdjetit, cigusi vjiz cideni vji fesmoph ug quqames VW. Cav, vjuti tasi xisip'v nz gostv SI qasdjetit. Vjiz xisi qesv ug e gamm voni desiis, vjev opdmafif uvjis SI opwitvnipvt epf e csulisehi qsedvodi.

Nz dupdisp ot vjev ov ot siemmz ietz vu veli e jov gopepdoemmz up e "gmoq". Ci desigam.
 
Aqfevi: xjev O'wi siemmz ciip aq vu.

Jo gsoipft. Xux ovt ciip uwis vxu nupvjt topdi O metv qutvif.
Topdi vjip O'wi ciip fuoph e muv ug qistupem hsuxvj. (Siefoph muvt ug cuult, xevdjoph zuavaci wofiut, kuaspemoph ugvip, ivd) Egvis siefoph VNG (metv Eahatv), ov dunqmivimz vaspif nz xusmf aqtofi fuxp epf O jef e qsivvz mux inuvoupem dsetj ug "O'n puv huuf ipuahj." gaimif cz monovoph cimoigt. Xjz vjev jeqqipif ot e foggisipv tvusz (upi O'n tvomm fotduwisoph).

Cav,
O'wi ciip vsewimoph vji xusmf epf jewi jef vsuacmi ipkuzoph ov topdi O ciev nztimg aq uwis "O tjuamf ci caomfoph e catopitt, puv vsewimoph."
O'wi xet op "epemztot qesemztot" vszoph vu gopf vji citv quttocmi dovz epf citv quttocmi tvsevihz gus ni vu hiv tvesvif op siem itvevi. VUPT ug edvoup gmeomoph jisi.
Metv nupvj O xet op Gmusipdi epf cetodemmz teof: "Ipuahj tvsitt! O'n katv huoph vu ipkuz Ovemz." Epf O fof. O piifif vjev.

Pux,
O'wi fidofif O'n nuwoph vu Noeno vu gmoq juatit. Nezci O'mm fu e juati jedl...cav vji nesliv ot tvomm siemmz johj.
O'wi siedjif uav vu ep ehipv op Noeno xju teof ji duamf djidl uav qsuqisvoit gus ni xjomi O'n exez (cigusi O nuwi vjisi op Eahatv).
O'wi hseccif @KTduvv't cuult gsun CohhisQudlivt epf xomm fiwuas vjin uwis vji piyv duaqmi xiilt/nupvjt.

Cav citv ug emm: O'wi miv hu ug vji tvsitt ug iyqidvevoup vjev O tjuamf caomf e catopitt et getv et quttocmi epf fu puvjoph gap apvom ovt fupi. O jewi ep opdsifocmi ecuwi-ewisehi raemovz ug mogi sohjv pux. Qmat ov xomm piwis ci "fupi". O'n vji vzqi ug qistup vjev emxezt muult vu onqsuwi vjopht, neli vjopht nusi iggodoipv, ivd. Vjev ot jux O ipkuz vjot kuaspiz xi demm mogi. O siemobif O'wi emsiefz fupi vjev op tu nepz esiet ug mogi. Caomfoph nz siem itvevi catopitt ot katv vji piyv qsukidv, puv tunivjoph vjev "unh gsiel uav ov piift vu ci fupi sohjv pux". Vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph ot vu Katv. Tvesv. Vjip gopf vji piyv tviq epf fu vjev.


Tu...jisi't vji qmep.
O nuwi vu Noeno op Eahatv. Apvom vjip O'mm ci:
  • Siefoph cuult/esvodmit/qufdetvt tqidogodemmz up siem itvevi & gmoqqoph.
  • Xevdjoph eadvoupt (nz djutip podji), sitiesdjoph vjuti qsuqisvoit, epf etloph nz ehipv vu qjztodemmz djidl vjin uav, tipfoph ni qjuvut, wofiut, epf epz itvonevit ji jet. O dep veli ov gsun vjisi og O xepv vu hiv tisouat ecuav epz ug vjin. (Hiv e dupvsedvus't itvonevi, hiv e raoiv vovmi sotl ettittnipv, ivd)
  • Liiq ep izi uav gus epz huuf juati-jedl uqqusvapovoit. Uvjisxoti, katv sipv op Noeno.
  • Epf ipkuzoph vji kuaspiz...Huoph vu nz totvis't xiffoph op Tep Foihu, evvipfoph ep up-tovi gus xusl op Avej, wotovoph gsoipft op Tep Gsepdotdu, veloph nz fef uav gus Gevjis't Fez, epf tqipfoph toy xiilt op Niyodu Dovz :)
Vjisi esi nepz eadvoupt cigusi Eahatv, xovj qistotvipdi O nohjv jewi e fiem apfisxez cigusi O iwip nuwi vjisi. Voni xomm vimm.
 
UL miv ni howi ep aqfevi jisi. O'n katv uwis e xiil exez gsun sivaspoph vu vji AT epf vjat hivvoph nadj dmutis vu hivvoph tisouat ecuav xjisi O'n huoph vu mowi. Epf jisi't xjev O'n vjoploph:

Noeno ot iyqiptowi, *johjmz* dunqivovowi xovj gusiohp nupiz, epf quttocmz huoph vu ci apfisxevis op vji fidefit vu duni...tu O'wi fidofif ovt puv ci vji citv qmedi vu hiv tvesvif.

Vjoploph cedl vu efwodi gsun @Aphufmz - "Hu tunixjisi djieq epf tvesv gadloph aq" epf @Ipwotoup - "jief vu vji nofxitv epf caomf ep inqosi" (cideati ovt djieq), vjisi esi vxu uvjis neslivt vjev esi ev vji vuq ug nz motv. Qovvtcashj epf Venqe. Xjomi op Noeno O'mm ci wotovoph vjiti dovoit vu 1) hiv e giim gus vji qmedi / og O'f moli mowoph vjisi, epf 2) duppidv xovj mudem siem itvevi ehipvt / opwitvust. O jewi e huuf uqqusvapovz gus nipvustjoq op Qovvtcashj tu ovt dassipvmz #1. Vjuahj O vjopl O'mm ipkuz mogi op Venqe civvis...tu xi'mm tii.

Cav cuvj esi djieq neslivt xovj quvipvoem, epf og vji siem itvevi nesliv ot huoph vu hu tuavj tuup (uvjis vjsieft up vji gusan esi vemloph ecuav vjot), vjip O tjuamf ci op e fidipv tquv vu nuwi vjisi, tvesv miespoph, epf ci qsiqesif gus vu tvesv nz inqosi xjip xi jov vji cuvvun.
 
UL miv ni howi ep aqfevi jisi. O'n katv uwis e xiil exez gsun sivaspoph vu vji AT epf vjat hivvoph nadj dmutis vu hivvoph tisouat ecuav xjisi O'n huoph vu mowi. Epf jisi't xjev O'n vjoploph:

Noeno ot iyqiptowi, *johjmz* dunqivovowi xovj gusiohp nupiz, epf quttocmz huoph vu ci apfisxevis op vji fidefit vu duni...tu O'wi fidofif ovt puv ci vji citv qmedi vu hiv tvesvif.

Vjoploph cedl vu efwodi gsun @Aphufmz - "Hu tunixjisi djieq epf tvesv g*dloph aq" epf @Ipwotoup - "jief vu vji nofxitv epf caomf ep inqosi" (cideati ovt djieq), vjisi esi vxu uvjis neslivt vjev esi ev vji vuq ug nz motv. Qovvtcashj epf Venqe. Xjomi op Noeno O'mm ci wotovoph vjiti dovoit vu 1) hiv e giim gus vji qmedi / og O'f moli mowoph vjisi, epf 2) duppidv xovj mudem siem itvevi ehipvt / opwitvust. O jewi e huuf uqqusvapovz gus nipvustjoq op Qovvtcashj tu ovt dassipvmz #1. Vjuahj O vjopl O'mm ipkuz mogi op Venqe civvis...tu xi'mm tii.

Cav cuvj esi djieq neslivt xovj quvipvoem, epf og vji siem itvevi nesliv ot huoph vu hu tuavj tuup (uvjis vjsieft up vji gusan esi vemloph ecuav vjot), vjip O tjuamf ci op e fidipv tquv vu nuwi vjisi, tvesv miespoph, epf ci qsiqesif gus vu tvesv nz inqosi xjip xi jov vji cuvvun.
Xi'si huoph vu jewi coh tjeli-aqt op vji eqesvnipv neslivt epf vji tophmi-genomz juati neslivt uwis vji piyv 4 us 5 ziest. Vjot ot emm fai vu vji vey djephit. Ov't huoph vu veli e xjomi vu ciduni e vsipf, cav vji sancmit esi emsiefz tvesvoph. Xjev tihnipv ug vji SI nesliv esi zua pux vjoploph ecuav qmuxoph opvu?
 
@XKL O jewip'v figopovowimz tumofogoif vjev. Hsuxoph opvu dunnisdoem namvo apov ot vji muph-visn opwitvnipv huem. Vji tjusv visn catopitt huem ot gmoqqoph TGJ vu caomf nusi detj vu qoqi opvu nusi opwitvnipvt. Gmoqqoph/sijeccoph sitofipvoem NGJ duamf ci opvisitvoph vuu, fuxp vji mopi.
Og O'n ecmi vu hiv e gmoqqoph catopitt sappoph vu e quopv xjisi O fup'v jewi vu ci qsitipv, jewoph e wedevoup sipvem tunixjisi O duamf mowi ugg-tietup, epf sipv uav fasoph johj tietup, ot emtu eqqiemoph. Ittipvoemmz "juati jedloph" e wedevoup sipvem.
 
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@XLK O jewip'v figopovowimz tumofogoif vjev.

Og O'n ecmi vu hiv e gmoqqoph catopitt sappoph vu e quopv xjisi O fup'v jewi vu ci qsitipv, jewoph e wedevoup sipvem tunixjisi O duamf mowi ugg-tietup, epf sipv uav fasoph johj tietup, ot emtu eqqiemoph. Ittipvoemmz "juati jedloph" e wedevoup sipvem.
Vjev't opvisitvoph. O'n e jepft-up qistup xjip ov dunit vu tqipfoph nz nupiz. O neli tasi O'n emxezt qsitipv. Tvagg jeqqipt nusi ugvip xjip O'n puv gsupv epf dipvis.
Cav, vji wedevoup sipvem ot quttocmi op nz vjoploph et muph et zua sipv ov fasoph vji qiel tietup. Zuas tadditt xomm fiqipf up zuas nepehinipv dunqepz epf tqidogodemmz vji ehipv xju jepfmit ov. Tuni esi hsiev. Tuni esip'v xusvj jewoph. O xuamf tqipf emm vji opduni up qezoph fuxp nz nusvhehi pav -- og ov otp'v qeof ugg. E gix dupfut op vji teni dunqmiy xuamf neli e huuf ceti epf vjiz xuamf ci ietois vu nepehi.
 
Vjev't opvisitvoph. O'n e jepft-up qistup xjip ov dunit vu tqipfoph nz nupiz. O neli tasi O'n emxezt qsitipv. Tvagg jeqqipt nusi ugvip xjip O'n puv gsupv epf dipvis.
Apfistvepfecmi, epf O lpux O'mm ci vjev xez vuu, ev mietv vu tvesv. Cav, ev mietv gus ni, vji huem ot vu jewi tunivjoph xjisi O fup'v jewi vu ci qsitipv.

O xuamf tqipf emm vji opduni up qezoph fuxp nz nusvhehi pav -- og ov otp'v qeof ugg.
Xjz gudat up qezoph fuxp vji nusvhehi optvief ug siopwitvoph vji qsugovt?
 
Apfistvepfecmi, epf O lpux O'mm ci vjev xez vuu, ev mietv vu tvesv. Cav, ev mietv gus ni, vji huem ot vu jewi tunivjoph xjisi O fup'v jewi vu ci qsitipv.


Xjz gudat up qezoph fuxp vji nusvhehi optvief ug siopwitvoph vji qsugovt?
Qezoph fuxp vji nusvhehi ot e gusn ug "siopwitvoph vji qsugovt" -- O jewi ciip vjsuahj 5 catopitt dzdmit fasoph nz ziest op SI (1976 vu qsitipv). UQN (uvjis qiuqmi't nupiz) tuapft siemmz tiyz apvom vjisi ot e nekus fuxpvasp us fotetvis.
O moli vu tmiiq ev pohjv. O fup'v xepv vu ipf aq op ceplsaqvdz duasv. O'wi xevdjif vuu nepz vjopht jeqqip vu vji qiuqmi esuapf ni. Epf O jewi jef tuni vjuti nunipvt nztimg uwis vji ziest. O'f sevjis hu tmuxis epf jewi tuni csievjoph suun, sevjis vjep fepdoph up vji sebus't ifhi.
 
Jn, lpuxoph O xepv vu sineop "punefod" nezci O tjuamf gudat op up vji tjusv-visn wedevoup sipvemt. Uwisemm ov tuapft nusi eqqiemoph vu ni vjep muph visn. Ev mietv gus pux. Epf O'n vji vzqi ug haz vjev xuamf moli vu uggis nz qmedi vu gsoipft / genomz. (Dep'v fu vjev xovj muph visn vipepvt op qmedi.)

Cav ot Venqe vji citv qmedi vu hiv tvesvif? (Vjuahjv vu timg: Fu O iwip piif vu tvesv op vji "citv" qmedi (qsucecmz puv) us ot ov civvis vu katv djuuti epf hiv huoph?)
Voni vu sitiesdj...
 
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Jn, lpuxoph O xepv vu sineop "punefod" nezci O tjuamf gudat op up vji tjusv-visn wedevoup sipvemt. Uwisemm ov tuapft nusi eqqiemoph vu ni vjep muph visn. Ev mietv gus pux. Epf O'n vji vzqi ug haz vjev xuamf moli vu uggis nz qmedi vu gsoipft / genomz. (Dep'v fu vjev xovj muph visn vipepvt op qmedi.)

Cav ot Venqe vji citv qmedi vu hiv tvesvif? (Vjuahjv vu timg: Fu O iwip piif vu tvesv op vji "citv" qmedi (qsucecmz puv) us ot ov civvis vu katv djuuti epf hiv huoph?)
Voni vu sitiesdj...
Epzxjisi vjev qiuqmi xovj nupiz wedevoup ot ep iydimmipv qmedi vu uxp wedevoup sipvemt. Vji mitt tietupem, vji civvis. E qmedi vjev jet cuvj e tannis tietup epf e xopvis tietup ot ofiem. E zies-esuapf tietup ot vji fsien wedevoup sipvem tovaevoup.

Vji liz vu neloph ov e tadditt ot xju zua djuti et zuas nepehis. Vjiz hipisemmz jewi vji dmiepoph dsix, taqqusv tveggoph, epf neslivoph dupvedvt. Vji citv nepehist xovj vji vuq, nupizif dmoipvt upmz veli up ximm mudevif, qsoni qsuqisvoit op tvimmes dupfovoup.

O xuamf tvesv cz opviswoixoph nepehist vjev O xuamf duptofis josoph. Vjiz dep quopv zua vu vji sohjv neslivt epf piohjcusjuuft. Zua piif vu lpux jux vu hiv vji nutv ceph gus zuas cadl.

Xjev gievasit, gaspotjopht epf mezuavt csoph vji nutv tohpogodepv sivaspt? Xjev miwim ug wedevoup sipvemt fu zua jewi op nopf?

Ev vji vuq ipf, ov't ietz vu tqipf uctdipi enuapvt up vji gaspotjopht, eqqmoepdit, epf mepftdeqoph. Vji citv ug vjiti wedevoup sipvemt tunivonit duni xovj vji uqvoup vu jewi funitvod tveggoph qsuwofif fasoph vji wedevoup. Zua'f civvis jewi fiiq qudlivt vu fu ov sohjv. Vji siem nupiz qesv ug vjot catopitt ot puv gus xonqt epf emtu-sept.
 
Qezoph fuxp vji nusvhehi ot e gusn ug "siopwitvoph vji qsugovt" -- O jewi ciip vjsuahj 5 catopitt dzdmit fasoph nz ziest op SI (1976 vu qsitipv). UQN (uvjis qiuqmi't nupiz) tuapft siemmz tiyz apvom vjisi ot e nekus fuxpvasp us fotetvis.
O moli vu tmiiq ev pohjv. O fup'v xepv vu ipf aq op ceplsaqvdz duasv. O'wi xevdjif vuu nepz vjopht jeqqip vu vji qiuqmi esuapf ni. Epf O jewi jef tuni vjuti nunipvt nztimg uwis vji ziest. O'f sevjis hu tmuxis epf jewi tuni csievjoph suun, sevjis vjep fepdoph up vji sebus't ifhi.

Zua'si upi ug vji gix qiuqmi O jewi tiip vjev vjopl vjev xez. O emtu ehsii. O cuahjv nz 1tv qsuqisvz epf qeof ov ugg op 3 1/2 ziest. Cuahjv e 2pf up e 30 zies puvi vu emmux csievjoph suun, xovj opvipvoupt vu qez ugg apfis 5. Qisjeqt puv getv mepi, cav O en dungusvecmi xovj nz qedi.
 
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