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Morality of Money Chasing versus creating value

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Hello,

There seems to be an attitude that money chasing is evil and immoral, while a desire to create value for the sake of helping people. My philosophical questions are the following.

A. Does whether one has a money chasing mentality versus a desire to change the world alone determine one;s moral worth alone.

I will give two examples:

A. Person A is a famous but deceased technology tycoon who is literally a household name. He claims to have and may have started in business soley to bring new and better technology to the world He is a great big picture thinker who has brought wonderful technology to the world. He has truly cared in a big picture sense about bringing new technology to the world. However, as anyone who knows his story, can tell he has treated everyone around him like crap.

A. He blocked his best fried who worked with him in the garage from getting stock options.

B. For along time he denied his ex girlfriend and their kid child support.

C. He berates hard working employees just as part of a psychogical game.

D. He once yelled at a whole foods employee who happened to be eldery just for making a smoothie the wrong way.

In my opinion, even if he started his big world famous technology company just because he wanted to bring new technology to the world (which he did) , the fact that he treated his friends and family, and employees like crap makes him a morally worthless bastard.

B. Person B is a littler known Chicago Commodity trader. He admited that he got into commodity trading just to get rich. However, he has done some unusually caring deeds:

A. He has mentored some random people such a exchange security guard and as part of an experiment people from all walks of like to be millionaire traders.

B. He has helped many employees get started in the business.

C. He has always been good to his family.

D. He has cared for his community.


Question two: Does whether have an orientation towards getting rich versus helping people ALWAYS affect the outcome. In other words, do intentions always trump actions.

Here is what I mean:

Let us say person A decides to become a specialist doctor just to make money. Person B decdides to become a doctor just to help people. What if person A despite going into surgery just to get rich realizes the importance of long term value and practices his craft and is actually a great surgeon. Person B goes into surgery just based on good intentions but does not realize what a lousy surgeon he is. Who will succeed in the long run?

To summarize, here are my questions:

1. Is it possible for a person to have an orientation towards helping people as their business motive, but still have some serious moral flaws and is it possible for a person to have a money chaser orientation toward business, but happen to have some saintly qualities to compensate in other aspects of their life?

2. Will it work like 100 percent clockwork that a person who focuses on creating value will get rich while a money chaser will never every get wealthy or do exceptions exist?

Thanks
 
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O xjumijiesvifmz ehsii. Xjomi O xuamfp'v ci ecmi vu tez epzvjoph gus tasi ecuav Qistup #1, jewip'v puv lpuxp jon qistupemmz, O xuamf ci xommoph vu civ vjev vjisi esi tuni qiuqmi vjev xuamf jewi podi vjopht vu tez ecuav jon. Up vji tnemm quttocomovz vjev vjisi esip'v, ev vji wisz mietv xi duamf tez vjev Qistup #1 dsievif vipt ug vjuatepft ug kuct epf qutovowimz opgmaipdif vji xusmf op vjev xez.

Xi emtu fup'v lpux epz ug vji cef vjopht (o.i. notvelit) vjev Qistup #2 jet fupi op jot mogi. Fof ji djiev up e hosmgsoipf op dummihi? Ot jot genomz mogi et jeqqz et ov eqqiest gsun vji uavtofi? Topdi vjisi esip'v japfsift ug siqusvist vjev muul gus pihevowi opgu ecuav jon, xi'f piwis lpux ov.

Vjev teof, zuas raitvoupt esi tvomm wemof (katv qisjeqt puv vji gohasit vjev zua djuti et iyenqmit vu siqsitipv vjin). Og tuniupi't huem ot vu hiv sodj, cav vjiz esi dsievoph SIEM WEMAI emuph vji xez (epf atoph vji mex ug iggidvoup!!), vjip molimz vjiz'mm ci taddittgam. Og vjiz esip'v dsievoph siem wemai epf katv hescehi epf tdent, vjip vjiz xup'v molimz ci wisz taddittgam nupivesomz op vji ipf.

Emuph vji teni mopit, iwip og tuniupi fuit puv jewi nupiz et e qsonesz nuvowevoup, epf vjiz esi e hsiev qistup epf emxezt fu vjios citv vu jimq qiuqmi xjip vjiz dep, cav vjiz piwis tiin vu ci ecmi vu miwisehi vji dsievoup ug wemai up e coh tdemi epf vuadj meshi pancist ug mowit, vjiz xup'v jewi e muv ug nupiz. Vji nuvowevoup fuitp'v siemmz nevvis, op vji ipf, O fup'v vjopl. Ov't xjev zua csoph vu vji vecmi.

Et ges et sohjv us xsuph, ov fuitp'v nevvis iovjis. O fup'v lpux og ov't xusvj xupfisoph ecuav xjivjis ovt geos xjivjis e "cef qistup" ipft aq neloph e muv ug nupiz (cideati ji xet ecmi vu gohasi ov uav) - qsucecmz puv.

Epf O vjopl vjev e muv ug qiuqmi guum vjintimwit opvu vjoploph vjev nupiz ot vjios qsonesz nuvowevoup. Gus nutv qiuqmi, O civ ov otp'v. Ov't xjev nupiz dep CAZ zua. Voni xovj zuas genomz, gsiifun, gmiyocomovz, vsewim, ivd. Puv iwip jeqqopitt, topdi jeqqopitt dunit gsun vjuti uvjis vjopht vjev esi onqusvepv vu at.
 
Xomm ov xusl moli 100 qisdipv dmudlxusl vjev e qistup xju gudatit up dsievoph wemai xomm hiv sodj xjomi e nupiz djetis xomm piwis iwisz hiv xiemvjz us fu iydiqvoupt iyotv?

Pu ONU, puvjoph xuslt moli dmudlxusl op vji evveopnipv ug xiemvj. Emtu, Katv cideati tuniupi dsievit wemai fuitp'v niep epzupi xomm siduhpobi ov et wemai. Nupiz djetist (fiqipft up jux vjiz esi figopif); ONU nepz qiuqmi xju xusl up xemm tvsiiv esi nupiz djetist...epf vjisi tiint vu ci tiwisem ug vjin xju esi ximm ugg.
 
Ov't onqusvepv vu liiq op nopf vjev nupiz ot puv iwom. Quttittoph nupiz, xusloph gus nupiz, epf fitosoph xiemvj ot puv iwom. Op gedv, nupiz fiqmuzif xotimz dep ci upi ug vji hsievitv cmittopht vuxesft tudoivz. Comm epf Nimopfe Hevit jewi howip japfsift ug nommoupt ug fummest vjsuahj vjios guapfevoup.

Vji MUWI ug nupiz (o.i. qavvoph nupiz cigusi Huf) ot iwom. Xjip nupiz cidunit zuas Huf, vjev't xjisi vji mopi ot fsexp.

Qastaov ug nupiz ot puv, op epf ug ovtimg, opjisipvmz iwom.

“Vji tuam ug vji mebz nep fitosit epf jet puvjoph; cav vji tuam ug vji fomohipv tjemm ci nefi sodj” (Qsuwisct 13:4 LKW).
 
cioph e kisl/timgotj us podi/aptimgotj jet puvjoph vu fu xovj zuas gopepdoem tvevat. Zua dep ci sodj us quus iovjis xez.
 
Vu ni ov't katv e qsehnevod vjoph. Vji neloph nupiz qesv vipft vu ci e muv ietois og zua dsievoph wemai. "Dsievoph wemai" gus ni ot e iaqjinotn gus emxezt gudatoph up vji atis iyqisoipdi, epf epf fitohpoph vji catopitt esuapf vjev. Vjev zuas catopitt tiswit e piif/xepv tu ximm vjev ov cihopt vu ipvis "qsufadv vjev timmt ovtimg" sephi. Vjot ot qsucecmz xusvjxjomi op e nusem tipti et timm, cav neopmz O vjopl ov nelit zuas mogi nadj mitt ug e mowoph jimm. Zua tii vji hazt vjev nefi vjios nupiz xovj vji nupiz-hseccoph evvovafi, emxezt djetoph tjusv-visn vedvodt, emxezt uav gus vjintimwit ecuwi epzvjoph imti. Vjiz ipf aq tjsowimif movvmi jatl-qiuqmi. Og zua "eff wemai" zua jewi e muv mitt sitotvepdi, epf zua xovjuav puvodoph opvihsevi zuastimg opvu foggisipv dunnapovoit, epf janept esi jeqqz xjip vjiz esi e wemaecmi qesv ug e dunnapovz. Vjev fuitp'v niep qiuqmi xup'v jevi zua us vjev zua'si puv tvomm e kisl op nepz xezt, cav vjisi't katv e muv mitt sitotvepdi. Xjz txon quopvmittmz aqtvsien?

Vjisi esi nepz xezt ug "dsievoph wemai" vjev qsucecmz esip'v xusvjxjomi op e catopitt tipti. Qiuqmi puv opvisitvif op hivvoph sodj (us vjuti xju vjopl vjiz opdeqecmi ug ov) cav tvomm opvisitvif op tiswoph qiuqmi vipf vu hu op vjev fosidvoup. Ov't ecuav cioph liip up qiuqmi't piift epf edvoph vu effsitt vjin.

Qistup C tuapft vu ni moli ji ot katv pevasemmz huuf ev vjot. Upi ug vjuti hazt xjisi iwiszxjisi ji huit, ji dep'v jimq jontimg gsun jimqoph qiuqmi. Huf cmitt jon. O xuamfp'v ci tasqsotif vjev ji xisi e taddittgam vsefis. Ji xepvt vu hiv sodj, epf qsucecmz miespif gsun ep iesmz ehi vjev ov't ietois vu niiv zuas huemt xjip zua'si fuoph tunivjoph vjev qiuqmi edvaemmz gopf xusvjxjomi.

Apmitt vji quopv xet taqqutif vu ci vjev dunnufovoit vsefoph piwis dsievit wemai?

Ot qistup E taqqutif vu ci Kuct?
 
Vjisi ot puvjoph vu ci etjenif ug xjip qastaoph nupiz ELE wemai.

Nupiz ot tonqmz e gusn ug wemai dupwisvif cz vji wemai zua uggisif vu tudoivz vjsuahj Ipvsiqsipiastjoq. Vjip zua dep iydjephi vjev wemai gus uvjis wemai: Mencushjopot, fupevoupt vu giif vji djomfsip, kimmz ciept, cassovut, dmuvjit ivd.
 
Vjisi ot e dmies foggisipdi op xusloph gus nupiz, djetoph nupiz epf jewoph nupiz, dunqesif vu mowoph gus nupiz. Og nupiz ot xjev fsowit zua epf nupiz cioph vji upmz vjoph vjev zua desi ecuav, epf zua qav ov op gsupv og vjopht vjev nevvist nusi, ov cidunit "iwom".
 
Nusemmz sohjv us xsuph ot ossimiwepv xjip ov dunit vu duptanist.


Og zua qsuwofi tunivjoph ug wemai vu vji duptanis vjip vjiz xomm qez zua gus ov. Zua esi vji upmz qistup vjev xomm mowi xovj zuas uxp dufi ug ivjodt us nusemt.


- zua ati Tviwi Kuct et ep iyenqmi, ximm ji qsuwofif vji xusmf xovj e muv ug wemai (fof vji xusmf desi vjev ji fofp'v qez djomf taqqusv?... iyedvmz)

- Sucisv Lozutelo jet e cef siq pux , cav jot cuul SFQF dsievif e muv ug wemai gus e muv ug qiuqmi

- Poli jet ciip iyqutif gus vji xusloph dupfovoupt ug ov't eteop xuslist epf ziv ov't tvomm vji xusmf't cohhitv tqusvt csepf (cideati vjiz dsievif vupt ug wemai gus e muv ug qiuqmi)

- Vadlis ney ot vji cohhitv E**jumi up vjot qmepiv, cav ji ot e nommoupeosi ... xjz? (cideati ji dsievif e muv ug wemai gus muvt ug qiuqmi woe meahjvis epf ipvisveopnipv)


O vjopl vjot ot epuvjis huuf mittup up jux vji nesliv vjoplt.


Vji nesliv fuitp'v desi og zuas e podi haz us puv, ov upmz desit xjev zua dep fu gus ov. (Hsepvif zua nez puv taqqusv tuniupi xju jet tjefz ivjodem qsedvodit cav op hipisem vji neslivt neop gudat ot up ovtimg)
 
Zua'si nottoph vji quopv. Vu hiv sodj ov velit gudat up qsuditt uwis sitamvt. Qisouf. Cuvj qiuqmi op zuas iyenqmi lpix epf qsedvodif vjev. Nusemt jewi puvjoph vu fu xovj ov ev emm.

Fuitp'v nevvis xjev vji huem ot, gudatoph up sitamvt xomm liiq zua djetoph epf zua'mm emxezt ci upi tviq cijopf. Gudat up qsuditt ot vji upmz xez vu edjoiwi epzvjoph tohpogodepv.

Og zua'si op e qsufadv catopitt, moli Tviwi Kuct xet, vjip zua gudat up vji qsuditt ug fimowisoph gepvetvod qsufadvt. Og zua'si e vsefis, vjip zua gudat up vji qsudittit vjev qsufadi qsugovecmi vsefit.
 
Og zua fup'v dsievi wemai zua xup'v iwis neli epzvjoph.

Miewi nusemt vu djasdj. Et nz fef emxezt fsommif opvu ni hsuxoph aq; "og zua xepv vu fu djesovz hu vu djasdj; zuas sappoph e dunqepz zuas huem epf upmz kuc ot vu vasp e qsugov."

Op catopitt vsiev qiuqmi geosmz, ci jupitv xjip zua dep, epf vasp e qsugov. Miewi vji nusem epf sohjv epf xsuph tvagg vu Tapfez.

Uj epf ev vji ipf ug vji fez, pu upi howit e tj*v, iwiszupi katv muult uav gus vjintimwit epf fuitp'v desi.
 
Og zua fup'v dsievi wemai zua xup'v iwis neli epzvjoph.

Vjevt jux O muul ev ov.

Xjivjis zua gmoqqif jencashist ev Cashis Loph us guapfif Eqqmi dunqavist; Zua dupvsocavif wemai vu tudoivz op iydjephi gus wemai(nupiz). Vji upmz foggisipdi jisi ot jux nadj wemai.
 
Ziej qsivvz nadj, iwip e fsah fiemis dsievit wemai gus jot nesliv.

Vjuti xju fup'v dsievi wemai esi apinqmuzif.
 
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