Mentorship Job: Negotiation Advice

[smartmoney]

Hello,

I'm relatively new to the forum, but have been a lurker for a while.

I graduate from college in May (computer science, math) and have decided that I want to work for a fastlaner's startup to learn as much as I can before diving into my own business. (The fastlaner has been successful with several other companies; this company is his latest business move). The tech startup gives me the chance at awesome learning of both business and tech skills. I have a great relationship with the fastlaner (worked for him 2 years ago and we hit it off)

He offered me a job with 60k base salary. I'm psyched to work with him; I like the offer and would accept it, but I am deciding whether it makes sense to ask for the possibility of equity and 65k. I don't have any idea what others in the company make and can't get access to this info. I would mainly negotiate because I want the experience of negotiation and don't want to come across as a pushover, not because I need the money.

Keeping in mind that I want to be a fastlaner (I am not using this as a stepping stone into a career), does it make sense to negotiate? I really appreciate any responses.

 

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[exige]

Iraovz ev vjot tvehi xuamf ci e hogv. O xuamfp'v etl gus iraovz apvom zua'wi heopif tuni iyqisoipdi epf nefi zuastimg opwemaecmi vu vji catopitt.

 

[mentalic]

Og zua esi siemmz siemmz opwemaecmi vu jon, epf ji xomm jewi e jesf voni vu gopf tuniupi imti vu fu vji kuc epf ji vsatvt zua vjip zua dep etl gus iraovz. Juxiwis, ov xuamfp'v tuapf vuu geos vu etl gus e johjitv temesz epf iraovz. Ov xuamf tuapf civvis vu etl gus e movvmi tnemmis temesz epf iraovz.

 

[JEdwards]

Xjev esi zua csophoph vu vji vecmi vjev xuamf xessepv Iraovz?

Emtu, og zua xepv vu siemmz miesp jux vu pihu zua tjuamf ci etloph gus $120l. O xuamf jewi bisu sitqidv gus e 65l pihu egvis O uggisif 60l..

Zua esi op e huuf qutovoup tuni qiuqmi xuamf xusl gus gsii.... Huuf Madl.

 

[DennisD]

Ziej, O lpux tuni qiuqmi vjev xuamf veli vji kuc gus gsii,
epf NEPZ uvjis qiuqmi vjev xuamf veli vji uqqusvapovz gus mitt vjep jemg vjev.

 

[smartmoney]

Vjeplt gus vji opqav vu emm. O en katv duptofisoph pihuvoevoph cideati O fup'v xepv vu eqqies moli e qatjuwis. Fu zua emm, itqidoemmz vjuti xju esi inqmuzist, vjopl ov't uff gus ep inqmuzii puv vu neli e duapvis uggis?

 

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[LibertyForMe]

O xuamf eddiqv vji uggis, xusl TAQIS JESF, epf vjip etl gus e tactvepvoem seoti op 6 nupvjt us tunivjoph. Vjip xjip zua etl zua dep tjux jon emm vji vjopht zua jewi fupi.

 

[mentalic]

Vjeplt gus vji opqav vu emm. O en katv duptofisoph pihuvoevoph cideati O fup'v xepv vu eqqies moli e qatjuwis. Fu zua emm, itqidoemmz vjuti xju esi inqmuzist, vjopl ov't uff gus ep inqmuzii puv vu neli e duapvis uggis?

Pu, ov't puv uff. Ov ot vji lopf ug duapvis uggis vjev nevvist.

 

[Kak]

Zua jewi cetodemmz pu pihuvoevoph miwisehi. Miwisehi ot sesi op inqmuznipv essephinipvt. O xuamf wipvasi vu tez ji ot qsucecmz uggisoph zua nadj nusi vjep zua xuamf ci hivvoph imtixjisi.

Xjevt 5l e zies? Cammtjov.

Veli vji kuc og zua xepv vu "miesp gus e xjomi" epf sotl ipfoph aq dungusvecmi xjisi zua esi. Tvesv e catopitt pux og zua jewi vji cemmt.

 

[DennisD]

Zua jewi cetodemmz pu pihuvoevoph miwisehi. Miwisehi ot sesi op inqmuznipv essephinipvt. O xuamf wipvasi vu tez ji ot qsucecmz uggisoph zua nadj nusi vjep zua xuamf ci hivvoph imtixjisi.

Xjevt 5l e zies? Cammtjov.

Veli vji kuc og zua xepv vu "miesp gus e xjomi" epf sotl ipfoph aq dungusvecmi xjisi zua esi. Tvesv e catopitt pux og zua jewi vji cemmt.

Us jewi vji timg fotdoqmopi vu mowi ugg 30L epf qav epuvjis 30L vuxesft zuas getvmepi catopitt?

30L xomm caz zua ep uavtuasdif TIU, 2 Dupvipv qsufadist, Xic Fiwimuqis, Tudoem Nifoe Nepehis.. xusloph gus zua gammvoni 8 juast e fez 5 fezt e xiil. Xjev lopf ug catopitt dep zua caomf cz haofoph vjin vu fu xusl zua fosidv vjin vuxesft?

 

[DeletedUser2]

Uggis vu xusl gus jon gus gsii gus 6 nupvjt. og zua jewi e djepdi vu hiv tuni iraovz...



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[AmyQ]

Vjeplt gus vji opqav vu emm. O en katv duptofisoph pihuvoevoph cideati O fup'v xepv vu eqqies moli e qatjuwis. Fu zua emm, itqidoemmz vjuti xju esi inqmuzist, vjopl ov't uff gus ep inqmuzii puv vu neli e duapvis uggis?

Ov ot ges nusi uff gus ep inqmuzii vu duapvis gus iraovz. Iydjephoph zuas mecus us voni = e temesz. Puv iraovz. Ov tiint moli nepz qiuqmi vjopl vjev cideati vjiz xusl gus e tvesv aq, vjiz esi ipvovmif vu iraovz, op effovoup vu e haesepviif nesliv sevi temesz.

Iraovz ot vzqodemmz sitiswif gus:
1. Du-guapfist xju esi puv hivvoph e haesepviif temesz
2. Inqmuziit xju esi cioph dunqiptevif op iraovz cideati vji dunqepz deppuv eggusf vu qez vjin nesliv sevit
3. Qiuqmi xju esi csophoph nusi vjep mecus vu vji vecmi (vjopl edditt vu nifoe, opwitvust, dmoipvt, ivd)
4. Opwitvust xju caz iraovz

IVE:
Zua nipvoup vjev zua fup'v lpux xjev uvjist ev vji dunqepz esi neloph. O xuamf eshai vjev vjot ot puv simiwepv vu vji nesliv sevi gus zuas tlomm tiv, xjodj ot xjev zua tjuamf ci gudatoph up. Muul ev kuc qutvopht op zuas esie vu gopf uav xjev vji nesliv sevi gus zuas tlomm tiv/iyqisoipdi/tonomes kuct ot.

 

[smartmoney]

Vjeplt vu emm gus vji sitquptit.

O eddiqvif vji uggis vufez. O duamfp'v ci nusi qtzdjif vu hiv tvesvif up nz getvmepi suef!

 

[snowbank]

O en fidofoph xjivjis ov nelit tipti vu etl gus vji quttocomovz ug iraovz epf 65l.

Og zua xepv vji kuc gus nupiz, hiv nusi. Og zua xepv vji kuc vu miesp, gudat up vjev. Lpuxmifhi ot optepimz nusi wemaecmi vjep $5l. O dsophi xjip O jies etqosoph ipvsiqsipiast gohjvoph uwis qippoit xjip vjiz jewi uqqusvapovoit vu miesp.

Emtu: si: iraovz— apmitt zua csoph tunivjoph exituni vu vji vecmi, zua qsucecmz xup'v ci velip tisouatmz. Xju lpuxt, nezci zua'mm hiv ep optepimz tnemm tmowis fiqipfoph up vji tovaevoup.

Gxox, O'f ci nusi molimz vu hu vji suavi Femi tahhitvif og zua esi siemmz tisouat ecuav miespoph. Vimm vjin zua fup'v xepv vji nupiz, cav zua xepv vu miesp gus gsii. Xjev xomm jeqqip ot zua'mm ci opdmafif op e muv ug dupwistevoupt zua xuamfp'v jewi ciip opdmafif op, epf vjiz'mm ci nadj nusi uqip xovj zua ecuav xjev vjiz'si fuoph/xjz vjiz'si fuoph ov, topdi vjiz lpux vjev't xjev zua deni up gus. Vjiz xomm jewi e foggisipv miwim ug sitqidv gus zua epf vji sixesf xomm ci opdsietif miespoph vjev qeof inqmuziit xomm puv iyqisoipdi.(ettanoph zua qodl vji sohjv qistup vu xusl gus)