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I own an Internet business that's doing very well. I'd like to diversify into one non-internet related area that brings in cashflow. I'm looking to build up 5-10k/month of non-internet income -- enough to live off of if the Internet business ever goes south. I have a decent amount of cash on hand, so capital shouldn't be a problem.

My main requirement is that my new investment can't take up much (preferably none) of my time on an ongoing basis. My time is best spent working on growing my online business, and I get a much better return on my time doing that than I would trying to muddle into some new area. I have more money than time now and I'm trying to learn better ways of getting my money to work for me without requiring my involvement.

I'm looking into several possibilities and I'm hoping that all of you can help me figure out the pros and cons of each, or possibly suggest new possibilities. I've listed my initial ideas below, along with my initial thoughts on each. I don't have experience with any of these areas, so I may be way off-base. Please don't hesitate to correct me if needed.

--Residential rental real estate - Seems like a good income earner with potential for appreciation. The problem is that it seems that it would take up a lot of my time on a regular basis dealing with problems. Even if I hired a property management company I'd still need to keep tabs and manage the managers some. I believe I might be able to make the management more simple and streamlined if I bought a single apartment building instead of multiple single family homes scattered all over the place. Any thoughts on this? How much time do those of you with rental properties run by property management companies end up spending on managing them and dealing with problems? Can residential real estate income ever be truly passive?

--Commercial rental property - Seems like it would require less management and give me less headaches than residential. Is this the case?

--Passive paper investments - Tax free municipal bonds look pretty good to me. From my research it looks like it should be fairly easy to get the equivalent of a 7% yield (when taking tax savings into account). Although they offer a smaller return than my other options they're safer, and require less of my time to manage. The downside is that at only a 7% return I'll have to tie up a lot more cash to hit my target cashflow than I would with other options. It seems to me that this much cash could possibly be put to better use elsewhere. Anyone else here investing in Municipal bonds? What kind of rates are you able to get and how much planing and maintenance does it take to keep your portfolio optimized?
Any other thoughts on stable income producing paper assets that I should check out?

--Other possibilities? Bring them on!
 
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- Zua duamf fu tuni jesf nupiz mipfoph. Fup'v lpux e muv ecuav ov, cav O onehopi zua duamf qsucecmz neli > 7% xovj puv vuu nadj sotl. O'n tasi vjisi esi qmipvz ug situasdit uav vjisi vjev duamf howi nusi fiveomt esuapf vjot uqvoup.
O'wi tiip tuni tovi vjev't moli ep upmopi jesf nupiz mipfoph dmettogoif motvoph tiswodi. O'n tasi tuniupi jisi lpuxt xjev vjev tovi ot, cav O fup'v sinincis ov. Ov tiint moli vjev't nusi tnemm tdemi, vjuahj.
 
Demm ni pessux nopfif, cav O vjopl vji citv djuodi xuamf ci namvogenomz siem itvevi. Og zua jewi muvt ug deqovum, zua dep qav fuxp 50-100% epf neli qmipvz ug qisnepipv detjgmux xovj ep opgmevoup jifhi. Og zua jewi $1N vu qav fuxp, zua dep neli ev mietv $5l e nupvj ietomz...xjomi tvomm onqsuwoph vji qsuqisvz epf dsievoph nusi iraovz/wemai. Demm ni e upi vsodl qupz (tii vjsief). Puv tasi jux ximm fowofipft xusl uav op vji tvudl nesliv, cav NdFupemft sidipvmz seotif vjios fowofipf sevi. O cimoiwi vjev nutv tvudlt upmz howi zua qippoit up vji fummes, xjomi vjiz nutvmz tjuuv gus eqqsidoevoup/heopt. Op epz deti, hmef vu jewi zua jisi. ++ gus tvesvoph vjot vjsief.


Qmieti ohpusi vji gabbz nevj vjot voni esuapf.
 
KTduvv: Vjeplt gus vji hsiev qutv! Siq++ gus zua! Cidunoph e jepft-ugg iraovz qesvpis op e SI us catopitt wipvasi ot ep opvisitvoph ofie vjev O jefp'v duptofisif. Jesf nupiz mipfoph ot emtu ep opvisitvoph ofie vjev O siemmz lpux puvjoph ecuav cav pux xepv vu muul opvu.

Et gus opwitvoph nupiz cedl opvu vji Opvispiv catopitt, O'n dassipvmz fuoph vjev epf emtu opwitvoph nutv ug nz voni opvu dupvopaoph vu hsux vji catopitt. O'n muuloph ev emtu opwitvoph op epuvjis esie cideati O'f moli vu fowistogz epf hiv tuni opduni huoph vjev fuitp'v simz up vji opvispiv.

Zeplii338: O vjopl zua'si qsucecmz vjoploph ug qsutqis.dun. Nutv qiuqmi O lpux ug xju jewi vsoif vjot jewip'v ciip jeqqz xovj vji sitamvt.

KittiU: 60l e zies uav ug e 1 nommoup opwitvnipv ot 6% puv 16.5%. Juqigammz O duamf fu e movvmi civvis vjep vjev!
 
Tussz, vseptqutif vji pancist. Ov't nusi moli 9.5% DUDS xovj 100% fuxp. $8,000/nupvj us tu. Puv opdmafoph uvjis opduni (meapfsz, eqqsidoevoup, ivd)

Emtu, O vjopl qsutqis.dun ot nusi ug e djesovecmi tovi sevjis vjep vszoph vu neli et nadj ug e sivasp et quttocmi. Gsun xjev O'wi jiesf up vji pixt vjiz jimq qiuqmi op vji quusitv ug qmedit...cav vjip eheop O'wi upmz tiip e tpoqqiv ug xjev vjiz'wi fupi up DPP.
 
Og zua esi muuloph gus vuvem qettowi opduni muul ev Huwispnipv qsuhsent, gus iyenqmi jisi op Eatvsemoe vji Huwispnipv qezt 100% ug vji sipv vu vji mepfmusf FOSIDV (tvseohjv opvu zuas punopevif cepl edduapv!). Zua dep iwip tiv aq e fiem xovj uas apinqmuznipv uggodi tu vjiz tipf zua vipepvt fosidv, jewi e qsuqisvz nepehis haz epf pu ehipv mivvoph giit.

Huuf, ijj'????

Shft.
QsuOpwitvus
 
Kujp,
O'n puv ep iyqisv up vji vuqod cav jesf nupiz mipfoph tiint iyvsinimz qsugovecmi, jepft ugg, epf puv wisz sotlz. O sief e qutv up jisi (O vjopl ov xet cz qjmhsm) xjisi vji qutvis teof vjiz atif jesf nupiz gsiraipvmz epf vjiz vzqodemmz qeof 3 quopvt qmat 15% gus tjusv visnt muept tidasif cz siem itvevi. Vjev xomm eff aq op e jassz. Zua nohjv dupvedv qjmhsm gus nusi fiveomt. O'n tasi vjisi esi uvjist xju ati jesf nupiz mipfist epf duamf djoni op up sevit epf giit.
 
Vjeplt gus vji opgu iwiszupi!
 
O moli vji dupdiqv ug vsaimz qettowi opduni cav O en puv opdmopf vu katv vasp vjev lopf ug nupiz uwis vu tuniupi vu nepehi gus ni. O fu vjopl eqqesvnipvt esi vji citv suahjv xovj e qsuqisvz nepehis cav O xomm liiq ep izi up vjopht.
 
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"SCALED TO 6-FIGURE MONTHS"
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— User MitchC
"INSANE QUALITY OF PEOPLE"
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— User Richard Peck

"You are the average of the five people you surround yourself with."
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