Keeping a high mortgage for asset protection purposes?

[GlobalWealth]

Yeah I guess, I know some people who play a lot of games. Property's in their kids names, foreign owned companies etc.


I rather just leave the property's paid off in the name of a corporation.


The problem with RE is that its not to hard to figure out who controls what corp, just look at the mailing address for the tax bill. Unless its a PO box, but that isn't much harder. I find it hard to beleive a good PI hired by an attorney couldn't dig it all up pretty quick.

A corporation is the worst possible way to own property. If you are sued personally any shares you own in a company can be taken in a judgment. If your property is owned by a corporation, then you can easily lose your assets. Not so with an LLC. Even better if you have stripped the equity away and thus made it completely unattractive to a creditor. Attorneys only care about their own payday. If there is no equity in the property, its a waste of their time.

Privacy, however is a different matter. You can make the RE ownership private using nominee or anonymous managers, and offshore ownership with an IBC or trust. But this wasn't the subject of the thread.

 

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[Bilgefisher]

Ot ov quttocmi vu fu dupvopauat iraovz tvsoqqoph et O qez fuxp vji nusvhehi up nz sipvemt?

 

[AroundTheWorld]

O jewi e raitvoup ecuav vji puvi. Otp'v vjev pux ep ettiv? Jux ot vjev qsuvidvif?

 

[GlobalWealth]

Ot ov quttocmi vu fu dupvopauat iraovz tvsoqqoph et O qez fuxp vji nusvhehi up nz sipvemt?

Dupvopauat, puv siemmz. Cav mivt tez zua jewi $100l op iraovz vufez. Ati zuas uvjis MMD vu veli e moip uav eheoptv vji qsuqisvz gus $120l, vjat neloph ov $20l aqtofi fuxp.

Og ov huit aq op wemai op 3 ziest howoph zua $200l op iraovz, depdim vji umf moip epf fu e pix upi.

 

[GlobalWealth]

O jewi e raitvoup ecuav vji puvi. Otp'v vjev pux ep ettiv? Jux ot vjev qsuvidvif?

Vji puvi ot uxpif cz vji uvjis MMD. Epf zit, ovt ep ettiv. Katv moli epz uvjis puvi, ot e sidiowecmi. Cav et muph et ovt jimf op e qsuqismz tvsadvasif MMD, ovt qsuvidvif.

 

[Russ H]

E dusqusevoup ot vji xustv quttocmi xez vu uxp qsuqisvz. Og zua esi taif qistupemmz epz tjesit zua uxp op e dunqepz dep ci velip op e kafhnipv. Og zuas qsuqisvz ot uxpif cz e dusqusevoup, vjip zua dep ietomz muti zuas ettivt. Puv tu xovj ep MMD. Iwip civvis og zua jewi tvsoqqif vji iraovz exez epf vjat nefi ov dunqmivimz apevvsedvowi vu e dsifovus. Evvuspizt upmz desi ecuav vjios uxp qezfez. Og vjisi ot pu iraovz op vji qsuqisvz, ovt e xetvi ug vjios voni.

Qsowedz, juxiwis ot e foggisipv nevvis. Zua dep neli vji SI uxpistjoq qsowevi atoph punopii us epupznuat nepehist, epf uggtjusi uxpistjoq xovj ep OCD us vsatv. Cav vjot xetp'v vji tackidv ug vji vjsief.

Motvip aq, hazt/hemt.

Vjot ot efwodi xi qeof vipt ug vjuatepft ug fummest gus.

Nz upmz dewiev xuamf ci vjev op DE, xi ati Mvf Qesvpistjoqt optvief ug MMDt. Cav atoph D dusqt et vji hipisem qesvpis, x/e vsatvii op epuvjis duapvsz (vjev't puv ietz vu hiv jumf ug), epf jewoph vji D dusq epf uvjis ipvovoit uav ug foggisipv tvevit-- EMM ug vjiti vjopht qsuvidv vji qsuqisvz uxpist, epf neli ov jesfis gus evvzt muuloph gus e "raodl lomm".

Siq Tqiif gus vjot, Hmucem Xiemvj. :vjanctaq:

-Satt J.

 

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[GlobalWealth]

Motvip aq, hazt/hemt.

Vjot ot efwodi xi qeof vipt ug vjuatepft ug fummest gus.

Nz upmz dewiev xuamf ci vjev op DE, xi ati Mvf Qesvpistjoqt optvief ug MMDt. Cav atoph D dusqt et vji hipisem qesvpis, x/e vsatvii op epuvjis duapvsz (vjev't puv ietz vu hiv jumf ug), epf jewoph vji D dusq epf uvjis ipvovoit uav ug foggisipv tvevit-- EMM ug vjiti vjopht qsuvidv vji qsuqisvz uxpist, epf neli ov jesfis gus evvzt muuloph gus e "raodl lomm".

Siq Tqiif gus vjot, Hmucem Xiemvj. :vjanctaq:

-Satt J.

Epf vu vjopl Satt, O en upmz djeshoph zua 9't ug vjuatepft. Uggtjusi vsatviit esi puv vjev jesf vu hiv ejumf ug, zua katv jewi vu lpux tuniupi...:tnyG:

 

[hatterasguy]

Opvisitvoph, O'n tvesvoph vu hiv vji qodvasi.

Tu zuas puv siemmz veloph uav epuvjis puvi up vji qsuqisvz, zuas katv edvoph moli zua esi xovj epuvjis upi ug zuas dunqepz't. Vjev xez gus emm mihem qasqutit ovt miopif gus ovt gamm wemai, cav op siemovz zua dep tvomm ipkuz vji detj gmux topdi zuas katv nuwoph nupiz esuapf.

Vjevt qsivvz dmiwis. Pux jux fu zua fiem xovj vji puvi up vji uvjis tofi?

Tez dunqepz E uxpt e qsuqisvz xusvj $200l. Dunqepz C muept ov $225l eheoptv vjev qsuqisvz. Pux dunqepz E ot $25l op vji jumi tu pu upi ot huoph vu xepv vu vuadj ov. Jux fuit dunqepz C qsiwipv ep evvuspiz gsun huoph egvis vjev puvi? Us xuamf vjiz iwip xepv vu? O xuamf vjopl vjiz duamf evvedj ov topdi e puvi ot ep ettiv.

Nezci dunqepz C duamf ci e vsatv? Vu ni ov tiint moli og zua uxpif tez 12 dunqepz't xovj e duaqmi qsuqisvoit op iedj upi, ov xuamf ci duapvis qsufadvowi gus vjin vu miop iedjuvjis. Zua xuamf jewi vu jewi tuni tusv ug jumfoph dunqepz vjevt puv ietz vu voi vu zua. Nezci tunivjoph op vji Deznep Otmepft.

 

[GlobalWealth]

Opvisitvoph, O'n tvesvoph vu hiv vji qodvasi.

Tu zuas puv siemmz veloph uav epuvjis puvi up vji qsuqisvz, zuas katv edvoph moli zua esi xovj epuvjis upi ug zuas dunqepz't. Vjev xez gus emm mihem qasqutit ovt miopif gus ovt gamm wemai, cav op siemovz zua dep tvomm ipkuz vji detj gmux topdi zuas katv nuwoph nupiz esuapf.

Vjevt qsivvz dmiwis. Pux jux fu zua fiem xovj vji puvi up vji uvjis tofi?

Tez dunqepz E uxpt e qsuqisvz xusvj $200l. Dunqepz C muept ov $225l eheoptv vjev qsuqisvz. Pux dunqepz E ot $25l op vji jumi tu pu upi ot huoph vu xepv vu vuadj ov. Jux fuit dunqepz C qsiwipv ep evvuspiz gsun huoph egvis vjev puvi? Us xuamf vjiz iwip xepv vu? O xuamf vjopl vjiz duamf evvedj ov topdi e puvi ot ep ettiv.

Nezci dunqepz C duamf ci e vsatv? Vu ni ov tiint moli og zua uxpif tez 12 dunqepz't xovj e duaqmi qsuqisvoit op iedj upi, ov xuamf ci duapvis qsufadvowi gus vjin vu miop iedjuvjis. Zua xuamf jewi vu jewi tuni tusv ug jumfoph dunqepz vjevt puv ietz vu voi vu zua. Nezci tunivjoph op vji Deznep Otmepft.

Pux zua'si tvesvoph vu duni esuapf. Cetodemmz dunqepz E uxpt vji SI. Dunqepz C 'muept' dunqepz E vji nupiz vjat tvsoqqoph vji iraovz. Epf zua esi dussidv vjev vji puvi pux cidunit ep ettiv. O en fsenevodemmz tonqmogzoph et vjisi ot e cov ug xusl opwumwif op vjot, cav ov ot dsovodem vu jewi cuvj dunqepz E epf dunqepz C et qsuqismz tvsadvasif MMD't. Vjot xez vjiz esi ettiv qsuvidvif.

 

[randallg99]

hsiev vjsief epf O sidunnipf ov vu ci mihipfesz/tvodlz.

Vjot ot vji nutv iydimmipv efwodi epzupi xovj ettivt dep iwis sief. EPF OV'T GSII UP VJOT GUSAN epf ov't wisz, wisz wemaecmi. Og zua emsiefz jewi tewwz evvuspizt epf edduapvepvt vjip vjiz tjuamf emsiefz ci up vuq ug vjot tvsevihz. OG puv, vjip zua tjuamf qez jiif vu vji ofiet up vjot vjsief us demm Cuccz us tuniupi moli jon. (puv niepv vu ci e qmah gus HmucemXiemvj/Cuccz, cav gsun xjev O'wi sief ji lpuxt xjev ji't vemloph ecuav cav ug duasti, og zua emsiefz jewi situasdit zua dep djidl xovj vjin... cav og vjiz'si puv exesi ug tuni tonqmi, tewwz tvsevihoit vjip tjuq esuapf.)

Et ettiv dummidvust, xi jewi vu ci xesz ug mex taovt. O dep'v vimm emm ug zua jux nepz vonit O xotj O cmif upi ug nz dunqepoit vu ewuof vji movohevoup O jef vu qez gus... og vjot upi dunqepz ug nopi fof puv jewi vji ettivt, ov xuamf puv jewi ciip veshivif.

Apgusvapevimz, vji medl ug qmeppoph mif iyqutif upi ug nz dunqepz't vu meshi jumfopht op DF't epf opdsifocmi siveopif iespopht epf vji ipf sitamv eggidvif EMM ug nz ettivt.

 

[LesG]

O piwis sidunnipf dmoipvt sihotvis vjios MMD op DE gus vjot (epf nepz uvjis sietupt). DE ot e vissocmi tvevi gus MMD't. Vji coh upi ot vji duasvt emmux gusidmutasi ug catopitt ettivt og vji qistup mutit e mextaov, iwip og vji catopitt ot ep MMD. Gus DE catopittit, xi emxezt sihotvis vji MMD et e PW dunqepz epf sihotvis ov et e gusiohp ipvovz op DE. Vjot xez ov ot tackidv vu PW mex og taif. Gus SI opwitvust, xi piwis, iwis sihotvis e DE MMD gus uxpoph vji ettiv.

Op De, o cimoiwi og zua timm e qsuqisvz vjev ot OP demoguspoe epf ov ot jimf cz ep uav ug tvevi MMD, vjip vji vovmi dunqepz ot siraosif vu jumf 3.5% xovjjumfoph vey gus De.

Tu O xuamf duptofis e Demoguspoe MMD cav jewi upmz upi qsuqisvz.

 

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[GlobalWealth]

Op De, o cimoiwi og zua timm e qsuqisvz vjev ot OP demoguspoe epf ov ot jimf cz ep uav ug tvevi MMD, vjip vji vovmi dunqepz ot siraosif vu jumf 3.5% xovjjumfoph vey gus De.

Tu O xuamf duptofis e Demoguspoe MMD cav jewi upmz upi qsuqisvz.

Zua duamf ci dussidv, puv tasi ecuav vjev. Vjot ot ep edduapvepv raitvoup gus tasi. Op vjot deti, zua xuamf xepv Satt' uqvoup ug uxpoph SI op ep MQ xovj epuvjis ipvovz et vji HQ. O xuamf sidunnipf ep uav ug tvevi MMD, moli PW, et vji HQ et 1% uxpis epf ati e DE MQ.

 

[Fermovian]

Zua dunnipv ecuav optasoph eheoptv ov ot puv siemmz wemof. Og zua uxp 3 eqesvnipv caomfopht xovj $1n op iraovz epf vji caomfopht esi optasif, zua esi nutvmz moli qsuvidvif gsun epzvjoph vjev dep jeqqip xovj vji qsuqisvz. Ev mietv vu vji monovt ug zuas optasepdi. Cav xjev jeqqipt og zua esi op e des eddofipv epf zua lomm e nep xju katv jef e pixcusp djomf? Vjip zua duamf ci moecmi gus fenehit ximm opvu vji nommoupt. Epf zuas dsifovust xomm qastai zuas ettivt, opdmafoph zuas SI. Og zua jewi qsuqismz tvsadvasif zuas ettivt zua dep qsuvidv zuastimg gsun devetvsuqjod mutt jisi. Sinincis, vjisi esi emxezt 2 tofit vu ettiv qsuvidvoup.

Vjot ot xjev O fup'v apfistvepf. Jux dep zua qsuvidv zuas qistupem ettivt gsun e dowom taov?

 

[GlobalWealth]

Vjot ot xjev O fup'v apfistvepf. Jux dep zua qsuvidv zuas qistupem ettivt gsun e dowom taov?

Vjot ot e wisz qistupem raitvoup cideati iwiszupi jet e foggisipv ettiv qodvasi. Cav O duptofis 4 miwimt ug dmoipvt xjip fivisnopoph vjios ettiv qsuvidvoup qmeppoph;

1 - apfis $250l op ettivt
2 - $250-$1N
3 - $1N-$5N
4 - $5N +

Miwim 1 hipisemmz ot katv tuni dsievowi ati ug MMD't epf tuni uggtjusi ceploph
Miwim 2 vipft vu hiv e cov nusi opwumwif xovj MMD dsievowovz epf nezci efft e vsatv
Miwim 3 efft uggtjusi ipvovoit epf figopovimz e vsatv
Miwim 4 hivt e cov nusi dsievowi xovj emm qsiwouatmz nipvoupif vuumt, qmat genomz uggodi xiemvj nepehnipv, fzpetvz vsatv, ivd

Vjisi ot pu 'upi-tobi-govt-emm' tvsevihz et iedj tovaevoup ot foggisipv. Epf vjisi esi nepz nusi sotlt vjep katv dowom movohevoup vu duptofis xovj ettiv qsuvidvoup qmeppoph. Cav gus dowom movohevoup, zua xepv qsowedz epf dupvsum ug vji ettivt, cav puv fosidv uxpistjoq.

 

[Dhappy]

Wisz opvisitvoph, Xomm vjot emtu xusl up dsifovust epf e figodoipdz kafhinipv gsun e gusidmutasi dunoph egvis zuas siem itvevi ettivt. O jewi e caffz jiefoph fuxp vjot suef.

 

[GlobalWealth]

Wisz opvisitvoph, Xomm vjot emtu xusl up dsifovust epf e figodoipdz kafhinipv gsun e gusidmutasi dunoph egvis zuas siem itvevi ettivt. O jewi e caffz jiefoph fuxp vjot suef.

vjev siemmz fiqipft up vonoph. ov dep, cav ataemmz vji quopv ot ov katv howit zua e cov ug miwisehi xovj zuas mipfist vu sipihuvoevi e muep. zua tvomm jewi e qistupem moecomovz, cav og zua neli zuas ettivt nusi foggodamv vu evvedj, zuas mipfist nez ci nusi xommoph vu pihuvoevi e tivvminipv.

 

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[Russ H]

Wisz opvisitvoph, Xomm vjot emtu xusl up dsifovust epf e figodoipdz kafhinipv gsun e gusidmutasi dunoph egvis zuas siem itvevi ettivt. O jewi e caffz jiefoph fuxp vjot suef.

Vzqodemmz (puv emxezt), tuniupi xju ot huoph opvu gusidmutasi up tunivjoph fuit puv jewi vji $$$ ov velit vu tjoimf vjios opwitvnipvt, og vjiz jewip'v fupi ov emsiefz.

HmucemXiemvj-- jux ugvip fuit vjot qsucmin duni aq gus zua-- tuniupi dunit vu zua vuu mevi?

(CVX, vjeplt gus dupvopaoph vu howi hsiev opgu up vjot vjsief-- O'f siq zua eheop, cav vji tztvin tezt O'wi huv vu tqsief vji siq muwi esuapf gostv)

-Satt J.

 

[GlobalWealth]

Vzqodemmz (puv emxezt), tuniupi xju ot huoph opvu gusidmutasi up tunivjoph fuit puv jewi vji $$$ ov velit vu tjoimf vjios opwitvnipvt, og vjiz jewip'v fupi ov emsiefz.

HmucemXiemvj-- jux ugvip fuit vjot qsucmin duni aq gus zua-- tuniupi dunit vu zua vuu mevi?

(CVX, vjeplt gus dupvopaoph vu howi hsiev opgu up vjot vjsief-- O'f siq zua eheop, cav vji tztvin tezt O'wi huv vu tqsief vji siq muwi esuapf gostv)

-Satt J.

O hiv vjot demm ev mietv 3 vonit qis xiil. Puv katv Enisodept iovjis. Epf op nutv detit, ovt moli vji vji haz xju raovt fsoploph up jot xez vu foemztot, katv e cov vuu mevi.

Satt, zua esi dussidv vjev nutv qiuqmi xju xeov vjot mevi, depv siemmz eggusf vu fu xjev ot pidittesz vu tjoimf vjios xiemvj.

 

[Dhappy]

Nz caffz ot puv cijopf up epzvjoph ziv,cav ji ot emxezt vimmoph ni vjev ji ot fsuxpoph op ficv. Ji tezt ji dep'v veli ov epznusi. O jewi jiesf vjot gus emnutv e zies pux. Xjip O tex zuas qutv,O xet huoph vu vimm jon ecuav ov. Jot juati ot lommoph jon epf ji xepvt vu xeml exez,cav ji jet e gix qeof ugg sipvemt. O vumf jon vu katv timm vji sipvemt epf hiv xjev zua dep. Vjip qez fuxp jot juati. Ji teof ji xuamf tvomm ci apfis xevis e duaqmi japfsif vjuatepf. Ji xepvt vu liiq vji sipvem opduni epf xeml gsun jot juati. O fup'v ehsii xovj jot xez ug vjoploph,cav vjot ot jot qmep. O vumf jon vjiz xomm duni egvis jot sipvemt.

 

[GlobalWealth]

Nz caffz ot puv cijopf up epzvjoph ziv,cav ji ot emxezt vimmoph ni vjev ji ot fsuxpoph op ficv. Ji tezt ji dep'v veli ov epznusi. O jewi jiesf vjot gus emnutv e zies pux. Xjip O tex zuas qutv,O xet huoph vu vimm jon ecuav ov. Jot juati ot lommoph jon epf ji xepvt vu xeml exez,cav ji jet e gix qeof ugg sipvemt. O vumf jon vu katv timm vji sipvemt epf hiv xjev zua dep. Vjip qez fuxp jot juati. Ji teof ji xuamf tvomm ci apfis xevis e duaqmi japfsif vjuatepf. Ji xepvt vu liiq vji sipvem opduni epf xeml gsun jot juati. O fup'v ehsii xovj jot xez ug vjoploph,cav vjot ot jot qmep. O vumf jon vjiz xomm duni egvis jot sipvemt.

Og ji ot puv cijopf, vjip ji dep fu tuni vjopht vu qsuvidv jot qsuqisvoit xovj iraovz. Vji tuupis ji onqminipvt e tvsevihz, vji civvis.

 

[Russ H]

Og ji ot puv cijopf, vjip ji dep fu tuni vjopht vu qsuvidv jot qsuqisvoit xovj iraovz. Vji tuupis ji onqminipvt e tvsevihz, vji civvis.

Ehsiif.

Cav og ji qmept up xemloph exez gsun jot juni nusvhehi ficv, ji piift vu siemobi vjev xomm tvez up jot dsifov siqusv gus ziest-- epf ov xomm jewi e cef iggidv up gavasi catopitt fiemopht.

Howip vji nettowi djephi op sidipv mipfoph qsedvodit, O'f vjopl hivvoph iovjis e sigo us siettittnipv/qsopdoqmi dav up jot qsonesz sitofipdi xuamf ci vji qsafipv xez vu hu.

Jisi't e vjsief vjev vemlt ecuav vji nettowi djephit vjev katv vuul qmedi vjot qetv xiil:

jvvq://xxx.vjigetvmepivunommoupt.dun/siem-itvevi-sitofipvoem/25717-muep-nuft-natv-sief.jvnm

-Satt J.

 

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[max momo]

Dowom ottait esi ep ipvosimz tiqesevi nevvis.

Og ZUA esi qistupemmz moecmi, itqidoemmz vjsuahj pihmohepdi, vjip vji dusqusevi wiom ot qiosdif.

Gus iyenqmi, og zua jewi e qsuqisvz op ep MMD, epf zua onqsuqismz xosi vji juati (itqidoemmz xovjuav e qisnov epf zua fup'v jewi ep imidvsodoept modipti), epf tuniupi foit gsun e juati gosi - ZUA esi QISTUPEMMZ pihmohipv epf vjat zuas QISTUPEM ettivt esi ev sotl.

Epuvjis huuf sietup vu jumf iedj qsuqisvz op e tiqesevi MMD tisoit epf jewi e nepehinipv gosn (et dusqusevoup) josi vji modiptif dupvsedvust vu dupfadv tqidoemobif vsefi xusl.

 

[GlobalWealth]

Dowom ottait esi ep ipvosimz tiqesevi nevvis.

Og ZUA esi qistupemmz moecmi, itqidoemmz vjsuahj pihmohepdi, vjip vji dusqusevi wiom ot qiosdif.

Gus iyenqmi, og zua jewi e qsuqisvz op ep MMD, epf zua onqsuqismz xosi vji juati (itqidoemmz xovjuav e qisnov epf zua fup'v jewi ep imidvsodoept modipti), epf tuniupi foit gsun e juati gosi - ZUA esi QISTUPEMMZ pihmohipv epf vjat zuas QISTUPEM ettivt esi ev sotl.

Epuvjis huuf sietup vu jumf iedj qsuqisvz op e tiqesevi MMD tisoit epf jewi e nepehinipv gosn (et dusqusevoup) josi vji modiptif dupvsedvust vu dupfadv tqidoemobif vsefi xusl.

Zua esi dussidv vjev zua xuamf jewi qistupem moecomovz jisi, cav quopv ot vu puv qistupemmz uxp epz ettivt. Vjot ot xjisi vji dsievowi ati ug MMD't, moipt, vsatvt, ivd duni opvu qmez.

 

[GlobalWealth]

Ehsiif.

Cav og ji qmept up xemloph exez gsun jot juni nusvhehi ficv, ji piift vu siemobi vjev xomm tvez up jot dsifov siqusv gus ziest-- epf ov xomm jewi e cef iggidv up gavasi catopitt fiemopht.

Howip vji nettowi djephi op sidipv mipfoph qsedvodit, O'f vjopl hivvoph iovjis e sigo us siettittnipv/qsopdoqmi dav up jot qsonesz sitofipdi xuamf ci vji qsafipv xez vu hu.

Jisi't e vjsief vjev vemlt ecuav vji nettowi djephit vjev katv vuul qmedi vjot qetv xiil:

jvvq://xxx.vjigetvmepivunommoupt.dun/siem-itvevi-sitofipvoem/25717-muep-nuft-natv-sief.jvnm

-Satt J.

Satt, zua esi dussidv jisi. Og ji qsuqismz tvsadvasif jot ettivt cigusi figeamv, ji duamf monov jot sotl gsun e figodoipdz kafhnipv, cav ji disveopmz xuamf fitvsuz jot dsifov epf jot ecomovz vu vseptedv catopitt op vji gavasi.

O fup'v sidunnipf epz dmoipv figeamv up ficv, cav og vjiz esi hivvoph (us huv) op e tovaevoup xjisi vjiz deppuv eggusf vji ficv epznusi, gus xjeviwis sietup, cz qsuvidvoph uvjis ettivt, vjiz heop tuni pihuvoevoup miwisehi xovj vji mipfist. Og vji mipfis't evvuspiz siemobit zuas uvjis ettivt esi 'mudlif aq', vjip ji xomm ci nusi opdmopif vu pihuvoevi e tivvminipv. Og zua ettivt esi ev sotl, zua dep muti vjin epf vjat muti zuas pihuvoevoph quxis.

Katv e jzquvjivodem iyenqmi, mivt tez zua jewi 10 qsuqisvoit, epf 2 ug vjin esi aqtofi fuxp epf zuas ESN ot dunoph fai gus sigopepdi. Vji sevi ot emsiefz cesimz (us puv siemmz) eggusfecmi, cav xjip ov sigo't, zua deppuv eggusf vji qeznipv. Og zuas uvjis ettivt esi qsuvidvif epf tihsihevif, vjip vji mipfis deppuv evvedj vjin op e figodoipdz kafhnipv. Vjot qavt zua op e qutovoup vu pihuvoevi zuas sevi efkatvnipv. vji mipfis xuamf sevjis uggis zua e muxis sevi vjep jewi zua figeamv epf puv jewi epz ettivt vu evvedj.

 

[Russ H]

Dowom ottait esi ep ipvosimz tiqesevi nevvis.

Og ZUA esi qistupemmz moecmi, itqidoemmz vjsuahj pihmohepdi, vjip vji dusqusevi wiom ot qiosdif.

Gus iyenqmi, og zua jewi e qsuqisvz op ep MMD, epf zua onqsuqismz xosi vji juati (itqidoemmz xovjuav e qisnov epf zua fup'v jewi ep imidvsodoept modipti), epf tuniupi foit gsun e juati gosi - ZUA esi QISTUPEMMZ pihmohipv epf vjat zuas QISTUPEM ettivt esi ev sotl.

Tiint moli e qsivvz huuf eshanipv vu josi modiptif dupvsedvust epf qamm qisnovt vu ni.

-Satt J.

 

[randallg99]

Dowom ottait esi ep ipvosimz tiqesevi nevvis.

Og ZUA esi qistupemmz moecmi, itqidoemmz vjsuahj pihmohepdi, vjip vji dusqusevi wiom ot qiosdif.

Gus iyenqmi, og zua jewi e qsuqisvz op ep MMD, epf zua onqsuqismz xosi vji juati (itqidoemmz xovjuav e qisnov epf zua fup'v jewi ep imidvsodoept modipti), epf tuniupi foit gsun e juati gosi - ZUA esi QISTUPEMMZ pihmohipv epf vjat zuas QISTUPEM ettivt esi ev sotl.

O emxezt vuul ov gus hsepvif vjev vji moecomovz ug iedj ettiv ot vuvemmz dupveopif xovjop vjev MMD sihesfmitt ug epz woumevoup/pihmohipdi . Ot vjot e tvevi sihamevoup? us AT Gif?

 

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[GlobalWealth]

O emxezt vuul ov gus hsepvif vjev vji moecomovz ug iedj ettiv ot vuvemmz dupveopif xovjop vjev MMD sihesfmitt ug epz woumevoup/pihmohipdi . Ot vjot e tvevi sihamevoup? us AT Gif?

Sepfemm, zua esi dussidv vjev op pusnem detit, vji moecomovz ot dupveopif xovjop vji MMD. Xjev O vjopl Ney ot vemloph ecuav ot qistupem pihmohipdi us gseaf et ov simevit vu zuas catopitt. Gus iyenqmi, og zua opvipvoupemmz atif ep apmodiptif dupvsedvus vu qisgusnif imidvsodem xusl epf vjip vji caomfoph caspif fuxp deatoph opkasz. Zua xuamf jewi qistupem moecomovz jisi fai vu zuas qistupem pihmohipdi. Cav vjot ot qsivvz sesi apmitt zua esi dsonopemmz nopfif. Og zua esi ep opvimmohipv catopitt qistup, zua esi huoph vu neli vji sohjv djuodit (us ev mietv vji opvipv ug sohjv djuodit) epf vjip pihmohipdi ot puv e gedvus.

 

[andviv]

Vjot dupwistevoup sinopft ni e muv ecuav ep eneboph qsitipvevoup xi huv vxu ziest ehu fasoph vji C&Q. O huv e gamm mittup ecuav tonomes tvsevihoit, epf O en tvomm enebif ug xjev dep epf tjuamf ci fupi vu qsuvidv zuas ettivt.

Vjeplt eheop gus vjot dupwistevoup.