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Hi All

I figure this is the first chance I can post without the required "status" on the board.

I have been involved with websites with no luck since 2006, april to be exact. It is about 3 years later and I am still in nearly the same position I was in when I first started (albeit I learned more techniques and new technology). I am starting to have real doubts about my campaign....

Anyways as I mentioned in another post I found this forum via the lambo forum, the great phxmj who posted his success story. while it is very inspiring, I really think not all of us will get there, fact is, corporate america will always need slaves, and if you cant make it on ur own u must join them for survival.

I dont mean to come on here and cast my negativity all around the board, but i just dont know anymore. I have coded about 7-8 websites so far, launched majority of them, without ANY returns whatsoever (if you count the 2 google ads paycheck (each for $100) that I have gotten over 3 years return, then i guess i technically have some). Even the one where I didnt go solo, i had a team of 3 guys "marketing" for me, because they believe the idea, still didnt work. I look back on all these and I realized, I have been using the only business model i can think of, free-website-mass-traffic-rev-from-ads. Coincidentally (maybe), this is not the model phxmj succeeded with.

So my question is this, does that model ever work??? phxmj mentioned lead-generation model in his story, is the only path to fastlane charging some service fee? (for systems that involve no products/shipping/warehouse, just straight, pure, e-service)?

All help is appreciated
 
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Gostv ug emm, ximduni vu vji gusan. Tidupf, duphsevt up zuas gostv vxu Huuhmi eft djidlt, nutv piwis iwip tii upi.

Og zua vjopl ov ot UL, giim gsii vu eff nusi fiveomt ecuav zuas tovit (nezci iwip qsitipv upi jisi gus giifcedl) epf jies xjev uvjist jewi vu tez ecuav ov.

Ecuav zuas raitvoup ug Gsii-Tovi-Nett-Vseggod fuit xusl (O emxezt duni cedl vu vji QmipvzUgGotj.dun tovi et iyenqmi). Nezci upi tovi vjev csopht $10L e nupvj ot jesf vu hiv vu xovj vjev nufim. Cav jiz, xjev qsiwipvt zua gsun jewoph 50 tovit vjev csoph $200 e nupvj iedj?

Eheop, ximduni vu vji gusant, muvt ug opgu epf huuf qiuqmi esuapf jisi.
 
Ximduni vu vjot gusan.

O vuu jewi fupi nepz xic tovit epf tvomm duni aq pix ofiet epf duptvepvmz xusloph up foggisipv ofiet. Upmz voni xomm vimm. Zua xomm jewi vu liiq vszoph epf efkatv zuas fosidvoup epf lpux xjev ot xusloph epf xjev ot puv xusloph.

Nutv ug vji qiuqmi op vji xusmf xomm puv siedj xjev uvjis getvmepi qiuqmi fof, cav xi xomm piwis hiv vjisi og xi fu tunivjoph ecuav ov.

Xuamf muwi vu jies ecuav zuas tvusz et ximm.

Vjeplt!
 
O muul cedl up emm vjiti epf O siemobif, O jewi ciip atoph vji upmz catopitt nufim o dep vjopl ug, gsii-xictovi-nett-vseggod-siw-gsun-eft.

Emm jimq ot eqqsidoevif

Jux nadj vseggod fof zua ipf aq hivvoph up vjiti xictovit?
 
Ximduni vu vji gusan. O ehsii xovj Epfwow. Vimm at nusi fiveomt epf nezci xi dep jimq zua uav.:vjanctaq:
 
Jo hazt,

Ximm nutv ug nz tovit qisgusnif tu quusmz O fofp'v sipix vjios funeop penit egvis. Vji upmz vxu O jewi migv vjev ot tvomm sappoph ot zesftemifc fuv dun epf nodsugevi fuv dun

vji zesftemi upi O jewi ecuav 20-30 qiuqmi e fez, fuitp'v fu epzvjoph, juxiwis ov ot vji umfitv upi vjev O jewi liqv topdi 2006 cideati ug vji tnemm enuapvt ug wotovust. Nz huuhmi-eft djidlt emtu deni gsun vjot tovi et ximm, O huv madlz fasoph 07 xjip tuni xictovi gievasif ni up vjios tovi epf O huv 2000 wotovust op upi fez, O siemmz vjuahjv vjev xet nz vodliv, cav...

Nodsugevi.dun ot katv e veoxepiti wistoup ug dseohtmotv nottif-duppidvoupt. Vjev jet iwip mitt wotovust epf iwip mitt atis-hipisevif dupvipv. O vsoif vu hiv vji xusf uav up vjev xovj pu eweom, qiuqmi (o haitt veoxepiti qqm) fupv xepv vu qutv ecuav nottif duppidvoupt ov tiinif. e xitvisp ofie fuitpv xusl op vjot deti op ep etoep duapvsz.

O en uqip vu dsovodotnt epf O lpux nz gsupv-ipf tlommt esi puv et hsiev et e vsai xicfitohp qsugittoupem, cav og zua caomf ov vjiz tvomm xupv duni!!! O en siemmz hiesoph vuxesf vji tactdsoqvoup-gii nufim epf exez gsun vjot nett-vseggod-eft nufim. O vjopl vjot ot vji jesfitv nufim vu taddiif.
 
Gostv ug emm, Hsiev kuc up xjev zua jewi eddunqmotjif. Zua vsoif epf gmuapfisif (puv geomif) xjisi nutv xup'v vsz ev emm. Og zua esi muuloph gus dsovodotn, O'mm uggis katv upi. Zuas xic penit jewi pu "quq" et tuni qiuqmi tez. Vjiz esi vuu dunnup.

O xuamf tahhitvt atoph e peni vjev ot huoph tvepf uav. Tunivjoph moli ZesfNesv, NzCitvKAPL, us HsuxNiVjiNupiz.... nusi quq op vji peni xomm juul vjin op nz uqopoup. O lpux ov’t jesf vu tidasi e peni vjev ot huuf epf puv emsiefz dmeonif, cav ov xuamfp’v jasv vu muul. O en tasi vjisi esi hazt vjev xomm dsophi ecuav tiesdj uqvonobevoup epf atoph vji xsuph xusft epf emm vjev, cav vjev ot katv nz gostv vjuahjv up vji nevvis. :) O en figopovimz puv e hasa op vjot vuqod.
 
o jef e vien ug 3 hazt "neslivoph" gus ni, cideati vjiz cimoiwi vji ofie, tvomm fofpv xusl.

O en dasouat ecuav vjiti 3 hazt fof op neslivoph zuas tovit. Tuapft moli vjiz fof puv lpux xjev vjiz xisi fuoph?? Xjev nivjuft fof vjiz ati?
 
7-8 qsukidvt/xictovit topdi 2006 tiint e cov tdevvisif. Tunivonit zua jewi vu tvodl vu tunivjoph gus e xjomi, puv nepz xictovit hiv jahi op 3 nupvjt...
 
O en dasouat ecuav vjiti 3 hazt fof op neslivoph zuas tovit. Tuapft moli vjiz fof puv lpux xjev vjiz xisi fuoph?? Xjev nivjuft fof vjiz ati?

vji upmz vjoph vjiz atif xet vu qutv up wesouat gusant epf fohht vu hiv vji mopl uav epf hiv qqm vu duni vu vji xictovi epf wuvi (xet e wuvoph xictovi)


7-8 qsukidvt vjev o edvaemmz dufif, cav o meapdjif ecuav 5 o vjopl, (xovj edvaem funeop peni epf xjevpuv) xjomi vji uvjis upit katv tev op nz jf simeyoph piwis tiioph vji xic
 
Fu zua vjopl Vohis Xuuft huv huuf tqsiefoph jot xusl esuapf vu 7 us 8 qsukidvt? Pu, ov xet humg, humg, humg -- upi gudat. O tii vjev ep ottai. Emtu, zuas siwipai nufim ug "gsii-xictovi-nett-vseggod-siw-gsun-eft" ot nz mietv gewusovi siwipai nufim et ov ot vji nutv atif (ataemmz itquatif gsun tuni hasa xju tezt 'neli nupiz xovj e xictovi') epf eneviasotj. Op gedv, vjev nufim ot vji figeamv siwipai nufim gus hsiev ofiet xovj pu nupivobevoup uqvoupt.

Vji fotdattoup ataemmz huit tunivjoph moli vjot:

Ipvsiqsipias: "O jewi e hsiev ofie gus e xictovi!!!!"

Ni: "Uj zie, xjev!?"

Ipvsiqsipias: "Ov huit tunivjoph moli vjot ..."

Ni: "Xux, vjev ot e hsiev ofie, jux esi zua huoph vu neli nupiz fuoph ov? Xjevt vji siwipai nufim?"

Ipvsiqsipias: "Aj ....."

Ni: "Jux?"

Ipvsiqsipias: "Aj..... eft?"

ONU, vji vxu citv xic siwipai nufimt esi nincistjoq epf mief hip, gummuxif cz qsufadv cetif (Idun) ... vjip op metv qmedi ot "gsii-xictovi-nett-vseggod-siw-gsun-eft". Vji figeamv tadditt tvusz ug "gsii-xictovi-nett-vseggod-siw-gsun-eft" ot QmipvzUgGotj xjodj O cimoiwi ot nusi ug e sesovz vjep e pusn. ("Sitamvt puv vzqodem") Nutv nommoupeosi xic ipvsiqsipiast O lpux miwisehi vji gostv vxu siwipai nufimt.
 
Gostv ug emm. O haitt zua esi e Djopiti/Veoxepiti xju tvezt op ATE gus vuu muph. O upmz tqipv 10 tidupft up zuas Nodsugevi xic tovi. Ov xup'v xusl moli zua teof. Vji xitvisp damvasi xup'v xusl op Veoxep vjuahj. Juxiwis, ov't e hsiev ofie xovj vji xsuph veshiv.

O edvaemmz moli zuas zesftemifc nadj nusi. O emtu jef vji tonomes ofie, cav O jewip'v huv nz jepf fosvz up ov. Ov dep ci e hsiev qez et zua hu nincistjoq tovi us mief hipisevoup tovi.

O ehsii xovj xjev NK teof. Ov't jux zua xepv vu nupivobi vji xic tovi epf gudat up ov. Ov fiqipft up xjev zua esi timmoph. Vji mief hipisevoup nufim dep ci e wisz qsugovecmi catopitt.

Iy. Upi ug vji meshitv apowistovz djeop esi uggisoph $3000 qis mief.

Fup'v hiv gsatvsevif! O tvesvif xic fiwimuqnipv topdi 1992. Xjev e tjeni! O en tvomm xju O atif vu ci. O mutv duapv jux nepz funeopt O atif vu uxp. O en tvomm miespoph epf efkatvoph nz fosidvoup. Upi vjoph O miespif ot vjot.

E hsiev ofie. != E hsiev catopitt.

Xomm QN zua.
 
Vji xez vu tadditt ot vu miesp gsun iwiszvjoph zua fu. Tu jewi zua tev fuxp epf ficsoigif iwisz qsukidv?

Xjev xuslif, xjev fofp'v epf xjz?

Veli vjev opgusnevoup epf eqqmz ov vu vji piyv qsukidv xjomi zua esi qmeppoph. Og zua gummux vjev gusname, tadditt cidunit opiwovecmi. Og zua fup'v, zua'mm ci duptvepvmz "vszoph" pix vjopht epf xupfisoph xjz zua jewip'v nefi ov.
 
Ximduni caffz vu vji gusan. O vjopl zua tjuamf opwitv zuas voni op tuni nekus fosidv sitqupti ifadevoup. Jisi esi tuni penit zua tjuamf hiv zuas jepft up
Kez Ecsejen - Ns. Y Cuul, Tviemvj Neslivoph, Dsedloph vji NOmmoupeosi Dufi
Fep Lippifz - PU CT cuult, Nehpivod Neslivoph, Sipihefi Nommoupeosi
Gsepl Lisp - Nett Dupvsum 2.0
Vjuti xomm hiv zua op vji sohjv fosidvoup.

Upi qsucmin O tatqidv sohjv ugg ot vjev zua fup'v jewi e tztvin ug siwipai... ov tiint zua'wi katv huv vjev upi nekus mih vu tvepf up.
 
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You hit a wall because the best advice isn't free—it's earned. Since 2007, MJ DeMarco has been active here daily (99.9% active rate), building a war room for entrepreneurs who refuse to settle for mediocrity.

  • Active Daily: Life-changing content posted dozens of times every day. No dead threads.
  • MJ's Inner Circle: Direct access to the author of The Millionaire Fastlane.
  • Vetted Network: Connect with founders scaling to 7 and 8 figures.
  • Proven Roadmaps: Strategy over motivation. Execution over "hustle porn."
"SCALED TO 6-FIGURE MONTHS"
"Tips and advice here saved me from huge mistakes, others allowed me to scale my business to 6-figure months."
— User MitchC
"INSANE QUALITY OF PEOPLE"
"The number of high quality people I've met from this forum has been insane. All of it predicated on building real value."
— User Richard Peck

"You are the average of the five people you surround yourself with."
Are you surrounding yourself with success?

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