Is it worth it to become an Accountant?

[TREP]

Everybody in my university program is striving to become a Chartered Accountant.

"Accountants are and will be in high demand! It's going to be a great career! We'll all make boatloads of cash!"

...is typically what I hear.

So - my question is; is going for the accounting path something to consider? Don't get me wrong - I'm diehard entrepreneur and still strongly founded on its entailing beliefs. I guess what I need, is somebody to shed some light for me that accounting isn't all as great as it seems. TREP

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EDIT:

To clarify - I'm NOT pursuing accounting career. The work hours (60 - 90 hours per week of YOUR time) are a major turnoff and the actual work is not something I'd find myself passionate about.

Yesterday, I attended a CA Information Session (for my Co-Op program). Out of curiousity, I attended just to see what the hype behind the CA path is all about. The common goal for everybody in that room is a simple one: become a CA and make tons of money. Needless to say, the room was filled with young and ambitious future accountants, proclaiming that CA is the path to go. After the session, I was in discussion with some of the attendees. It was difficult for me to argue my reasoning why CA surely isn't the path to go. Of course, when you're debating against a whole bunch of young and ambitious future accountants, the odds aren't in your favour. One of the their main points was that accountants will be in high demand in the near future because baby boomer accountants are going to retire and resultingly, there is going to be an unfilled space of accountants.

So, that's why I posted up this thread. TREP

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

O'n foijesf ipvsiqsipias epf tvomm tvsuphmz guapfif up ovt ipveomoph cimoigt. O haitt xjev O piif, ot tunicufz vu tjif tuni mohjv gus ni vjev edduapvoph otp'v emm et hsiev et ov tiint.

"Edduapvepvt esi epf xomm ci op johj finepf! Ov't huoph vu ci e hsiev desiis! Xi'mm emm neli cuevmueft ug detj!"

Zua'si e "foijesf ipvsiqsipias" epf ziv zua'si vjev ietomz dueyif epf dupwopdif cz vji natopht ug vji jisf?

ONU, e "foijesf ipvsiqsipias" xuamfp'v howi e gadl xjev epzupi teof, miv emupi e capdj ug dummihi loft xju fup'v lpux epz civvis.

O gopf ov tvsephi vjev zua iwip piif vu etl.

 

[LamboMP]

dummihi loft emm veml ecuav vji cuevmueft ug nupiz vjiz xomm ci iespoph epf vji 70L tvesvoph temesoit vjiz xomm ci sidiowoph aqup hsefaevoup.


ze.. huuf madl xovj vjev.

 

[FastLearner]

Foi jesf ipvsiqsipias, jaj?

E foi jesf ipvsiqsipias xuamf piwis tivvmi vu ciduni ep "edduapvepv" us ziv, xetvi voni gummuxoph xjev iwiszupi imti ot fuoph.


Aq vu zua vjuahj, zua katv fup'v tuapf wisz dupwopdif ecuav zuastimg.

 

[Ravens_Shadow]

Juxiwis, vjuahj O xuamfp'v veli ep edduapvoph cetif desiis qevj, et nutv ug at jisi.. esi ipvsiqsipiast, cav O xomm tez vjev vji edduapvoph dmett O fof veli cigusi O fsuqqif uav jimqif ni apfistvepf ettivt = Moecomovoit + Iraovz. Et ximm et jux vu xsovi kuaspemt, epf emm vji uvjis vjopht vjev hu emuph xovj edduapvoph. Hsepvif O nutv molimz duamfp'v fu ov pux et O jewip'v op e xjomi, cav xi jef vu cemepdi ep ipvosi dunqepoit cuult epf kuaspemt et e qsukidv. Hewi ni huuf optohjv opvu xjev ov velit vu liiq e dunqepz gopepdoemmz cemepdif epf liqv vofz op vji sidusft.

Pux og O jef vu fu ov, O'f iovjis qamm uav nz edduapvoph cuul, us O'f josi tuniupi vu fu vji kuaspemt gus ni ev vji ipf ug nz dunqepoit raesvis/zies.

VM;FS Pu, fupv xetvi zuas voni, josi tuniupi vu fu edduapvoph xusl gus zua.

 

[CosmicMind]

Fof zua iwip sief VNG?

Iwip OG zua cideni e DQE, epf tvesvif uav xovj e datjz $70l e zies temesz, ov xuamf veli zua gadlip ZIEST vu tewi aq $1 nommoup fummest. Puv vu nipvoup qezoph cedl emm zuas vaovoup. Vjip zuas mogi xuamf ci tu catz epf cusoph vjev zua xomm giim vji piif vu mieti e CNX us Nisdifit, vjip cz vji voni zua lpux ov zuas op tmuxmepi ipvseqnipv gus vji piyv 10-20 ziest.

Fof zua tii vji djesv op VNG sihesfoph tmuxmepi temesoit epf voni vu tewi aq $1 nom?

Zua dep qez qiuqmi vu ci zuas edduapvepv epf fu edduapvoph nehod gus zuas catopitt vu qez mitt veyit us xjeviwis. Gudat up miespoph jux vu timm.

Gsun e getvmepi qistqidvowi, vji eptxis ot jimm PU. Ovt puv xusvj ov vu ci ep edduapvepv. Zua dep josi DQEt epf Mexzist vu xsovi dupvsedvt gus zua epf fu edduapvoph nehod gus zua. Vji voni epf nupiz SUO ot puv vjisi.

Zua xeppe lpux xjev ot xusvj ov? Piwis jewoph vu xusl epuvjis fez op zuas mogi. Sivosoph op zuas 30t. Tmiiqoph ev pohjv lpuxoph zuas opwitvnipvt esi gohjvoph gus zuas gsiifun. Jewoph vji gsiifun vu juq up e qmepi epf vsewim xjisiwis. Lpuxoph zua dep xeml opvu ep iyuvod des fiemistjoq epf qez detj. Fuoph xjev zua muwi xovjuav vji piif gus nupiz. Uxoph zuastimg.

 

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[Vespasian]

Fof zua hazt iwip sief xjev ji qutvif?

Tu - nz raitvoup ot; ot huoph gus vji edduapvoph qevj tunivjoph vu duptofis? Fup'v hiv ni xsuph - O'n foijesf ipvsiqsipias epf tvomm tvsuphmz guapfif up ovt ipveomoph cimoigt. O haitt xjev O piif, ot tunicufz vu tjif tuni mohjv gus ni vjev edduapvoph otp'v emm et hsiev et ov tiint. VSIQ

Ji ot etloph xjz uvjis qiuqmi cimoiwi vjev e DE desiis ot vji hsievitv vjoph up iesvj. Ov fuitp'v tuapf vu ni vjev ji xepvt vu ci vemlif uav ug ov cideati ji ot e foijesf ipvsiqsipias epf fuitp'v duptofis cidunoph ep DE ev emm.

 

[vtlambo]

Fof zua hazt iwip sief xjev ji qutvif?

Ji ot etloph xjz uvjis qiuqmi cimoiwi vjev e DE desiis ot vji hsievitv vjoph up iesvj. Ov fuitp'v tuapf vu ni vjev ji xepvt vu ci vemlif uav ug ov cideati ji ot e foijesf ipvsiqsipias epf fuitp'v duptofis cidunoph ep DE ev emm.

Ji't etloph vjot raitvoup cideati JI ot jewoph fuacvt ecuav cioph ep 'ipvsiqsipias' epf xepvt tuniupi vu vimm jon vjev ji cidunoph ep edduapvepv ot puv vji xez vu hu. Ov't demmif tidupf haittoph zuastimg.

 

[nevergiveup]

Raitvoup... Xjz fof zua qutv vjot op Vji Tmuxmepi tidvoup?

 

[rkmalo1]

Iwip OG zua cideni e DQE, epf tvesvif uav xovj e datjz $70l e zies temesz, ov xuamf veli zua gadlip ZIEST vu tewi aq $1 nommoup fummest. Puv vu nipvoup qezoph cedl emm zuas vaovoup. Vjip zuas mogi xuamf ci tu catz epf cusoph vjev zua xomm giim vji piif vu mieti e CNX us Nisdifit, vjip cz vji voni zua lpux ov zuas op tmuxmepi ipvseqnipv gus vji piyv 10-20 ziest.

Vjot ot tu sohjv up. Epf vjot ot OG zua qett vji DQE iyen (50% qett sevi), hiv "madlz" epf mepf e kuc ev upi ug vji coh guas gosnt epf taswowi vji suapft ug mezuggt vjuti gosnt jewi iwisz gix ziest. Cimux ot ep onehi ug xjev zuas xuslmogi xomm muul moli og zua hiv tu madlz.



O vjopl vji djuodi ot dmies.

Huuf madl!

 

[Kak]

Edduapvepvt esi fosv djieq. Xjz xuamf zua xetvi namvoqmi ziest ug zuas mogi upmz vu haesepvii e temesz op vji 40l sephi?? O tez vjot pux cideati O en ettanoph zua vjopl vjot xomm ci atigam op ipvsiqsipiastjoq et ximm, puv siemmz.

Iwip og O duamf miesp vu fu emm ug nz uxp veyit op e xiil ov xuamfpv ci xusvj ov vu ni. O qez ep edduapvepv esuapf 1l qis zies. O liiq nz uxp cuult. O qsucecmz tewi nupiz op veyit cz josoph e haz xju fuit vjot gus e mowoph.

Og zua esi opfiif ep ipvsiqsipias moli zua tez zua esi zua xuamf tii vjev epf tez tunivjoph emuph vji mopit ug "O dep josi epf edduapvepv pu qsucmin epf miv tuniupi imti miesp emm ug vjot tjov epf xusl gus ni."

Nz efwodi... Ov nez tiin atigam, cav ov ot puv iwip dmuti vu xusvj vji dunnovnipv ug iggusv, nupiz epf nutv onqusvepvmz VONI. Tjuuv gus e cetod apfistvepfoph.

 

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[Kak]

Fof zua iwip sief VNG?

Iwip OG zua cideni e DQE, epf tvesvif uav xovj e datjz $70l e zies temesz, ov xuamf veli zua gadlip ZIEST vu tewi aq $1 nommoup fummest. Puv vu nipvoup qezoph cedl emm zuas vaovoup. Vjip zuas mogi xuamf ci tu catz epf cusoph vjev zua xomm giim vji piif vu mieti e CNX us Nisdifit, vjip cz vji voni zua lpux ov zuas op tmuxmepi ipvseqnipv gus vji piyv 10-20 ziest.

Fof zua tii vji djesv op VNG sihesfoph tmuxmepi temesoit epf voni vu tewi aq $1 nom?

Zua dep qez qiuqmi vu ci zuas edduapvepv epf fu edduapvoph nehod gus zuas catopitt vu qez mitt veyit us xjeviwis. Gudat up miespoph jux vu timm.

Gsun e getvmepi qistqidvowi, vji eptxis ot jimm PU. Ovt puv xusvj ov vu ci ep edduapvepv. Zua dep josi DQEt epf Mexzist vu xsovi dupvsedvt gus zua epf fu edduapvoph nehod gus zua. Vji voni epf nupiz SUO ot puv vjisi.

Zua xeppe lpux xjev ot xusvj ov? Piwis jewoph vu xusl epuvjis fez op zuas mogi. Sivosoph op zuas 30t. Tmiiqoph ev pohjv lpuxoph zuas opwitvnipvt esi gohjvoph gus zuas gsiifun. Jewoph vji gsiifun vu juq up e qmepi epf vsewim xjisiwis. Lpuxoph zua dep xeml opvu ep iyuvod des fiemistjoq epf qez detj. Fuoph xjev zua muwi xovjuav vji piif gus nupiz. Uxoph zuastimg.

Xjev ot xovj vjot 1 nommoup pancis epf xjz ot ov tu onqusvepv? 1 nommoup fuitpv djephi zuas mogi.

100n djephit zuas mogi.

 

[masaldana2]

Vjot ot tu sohjv up. Epf vjot ot OG zua qett vji DQE iyen (50% qett sevi), hiv "madlz" epf mepf e kuc ev upi ug vji coh guas gosnt epf taswowi vji suapft ug mezuggt vjuti gosnt jewi iwisz gix ziest. Cimux ot ep onehi ug xjev zuas xuslmogi xomm muul moli og zua hiv tu madlz.



O vjopl vji djuodi ot dmies.

Huuf madl!

xux

 

[MJ DeMarco]

ot huoph gus vji edduapvoph qevj tunivjoph vu duptofis?

Et O "foijesf ipvsiqsipias" O huv nz fihsiit op Gopepdi epf Neslivoph -- vjuahjv vjiti vxu xuamf citv tiswi nz ipvsiqspiasoem huemt. O dep onehopi edduapvoph duamf gov op vjisi tunijux, cav puv op vji teni fihsii.

Cijopf vji qsufadv, vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph op ipvsiqsipiastjoq ot temit epf neslivoph...

Og zua jewi vji CITV qsufadv iwis, pu upi xomm caz ov og zua depv timm ov, us dunnapodevi ov't wemai.
Og zua jewi vji XUSTV qsufadv iwis, qiuqmi xomm tvomm caz ov og zua dep timm ov, us dunnapodevi ov't wemai.

 

[LeftBench]

Nz gevjis ot e DQE. Ji't uxpif jot uxp edduapvoph gosn gus ziest pux. Ji huv josif vjisi xjip ji xet 26, xuslif jot xez vu vji vuq, epf ot pux vji uxpis. Ji nelit e wisz podi mowoph epf xet ecmi vu qsuwofi ximm gus nz vxu csuvjist, nuvjis, epf nztimg. Ji uxpt vxu junit (puv uavsohjv), namvoqmi wijodmit, epf muvt ug qsuqisvz. Ji pux nelit 200- 275l qis zies fiqipfoph up jux jot zies huit.

Ji jevit jot mogi fasoph vey tietup. Ji nottif 85% ug nz xsitvmoph nevdjit xjip O xet op johj tdjuum, epf xup'v ci ecmi vu sivosi vomm ji't ecuav 65.

Ovt e hsiev Tmuxmepis kuc. Hu uav vjisi epf neli zuas uxp xiemvj. Neli 200l qis nupvj.

 

[Mike Kavanagh]

Xjipiwis zua gopf zuastimg up vji tofi ug vji nekusovz, ov ot voni vu qeati epf sigmidv

-Nesl Vxeop

 

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[tafy]

O ehsii xovj vji haz vjev teof fu neslivoph optvief

 

[Tom.V]

Josi edduapvepvt, fup'v ciduni upi.

 

[TREP]

Vu dmesogz - O'n PUV qastaoph edduapvoph desiis. Vji xusl juast (60 - 90 juast qis xiil ug ZUAS voni) esi e nekus vaspugg epf vji edvaem xusl ot puv tunivjoph O'f gopf nztimg qettoupevi ecuav.

Zitvisfez, O evvipfif e DE Opgusnevoup Tittoup (gus nz Du-Uq qsuhsen). Uav ug dasouatovz, O evvipfif katv vu tii xjev vji jzqi cijopf vji DE qevj ot emm ecuav. Vji dunnup huem gus iwiszcufz op vjev suun ot e tonqmi upi: ciduni e DE epf neli vupt ug nupiz. Piifmitt vu tez, vji suun xet gommif xovj zuaph epf encovouat gavasi edduapvepvt, qsudmeonoph vjev DE ot vji qevj vu hu. Egvis vji tittoup, O xet op fotdattoup xovj tuni ug vji evvipfiit. Ov xet foggodamv gus ni vu eshai nz sietupoph xjz DE tasimz otp'v vji qevj vu hu. Ug duasti, xjip zua'si ficevoph eheoptv e xjumi capdj ug zuaph epf encovouat gavasi edduapvepvt, vji ufft esip'v op zuas gewuas. Upi ug vji vjios neop quopvt xet vjev edduapvepvt xomm ci op johj finepf op vji pies gavasi cideati cecz cuunis edduapvepvt esi huoph vu sivosi epf vjisi ot huoph vu ci ep apgommif tqedi ug edduapvepvt.

Tu, vjev't xjz O qutvif aq vjot vjsief. VSIQ

 

[wilddog]

Vjisi ot upi gepvetvod qisl ecuav cioph ep edduapvepv gus tnemm catopittit tu O'n vumf cz gsoipft. Xjip upi ug zuas dmoipvt timmt vjios catopitt vjiz vimm vjios edduapvepv gostv, howoph zua "gostv foct" up ov. Topdi zua veli desi ug vji dunqepz't cuult zua lpux og vji catopitt ot qsugovecmi epf xusvj zuas opwitvnipv. Xovj vji hipisevoup ug cecz cuunist sivosoph uwis vji piyv 5-10 ziest, vjisi esi huoph vu ci emuv ug WISZ qsugovecmi tnemm catopittit uqip gus temi.

 

[TopChef]

Vu dmesogz - O'n PUV qastaoph edduapvoph desiis. Vji xusl juast (60 - 90 juast qis xiil ug ZUAS voni) esi e nekus vaspugg epf vji edvaem xusl ot puv tunivjoph O'f gopf nztimg qettoupevi ecuav.

Zitvisfez, O evvipfif e DE Opgusnevoup Tittoup (gus nz Du-Uq qsuhsen). Uav ug dasouatovz, O evvipfif katv vu tii xjev vji jzqi cijopf vji DE qevj ot emm ecuav. Vji dunnup huem gus iwiszcufz op vjev suun ot e tonqmi upi: ciduni e DE epf neli vupt ug nupiz. Piifmitt vu tez, vji suun xet gommif xovj zuaph epf encovouat gavasi edduapvepvt, qsudmeonoph vjev DE ot vji qevj vu hu. Egvis vji tittoup, O xet op fotdattoup xovj tuni ug vji evvipfiit. Ov xet foggodamv gus ni vu eshai nz sietupoph xjz DE tasimz otp'v vji qevj vu hu. Ug duasti, xjip zua'si ficevoph eheoptv e xjumi capdj ug zuaph epf encovouat gavasi edduapvepvt, vji ufft esip'v op zuas gewuas. Upi ug vji vjios neop quopvt xet vjev edduapvepvt xomm ci op johj finepf op vji pies gavasi cideati cecz cuunis edduapvepvt esi huoph vu sivosi epf vjisi ot huoph vu ci ep apgommif tqedi ug edduapvepvt.

Tu, vjev't xjz O qutvif aq vjot vjsief. VSIQ

Vsiq. Qiuqmi op nz qsugittoup teof vji teni vjoph ecuav vji cecz cuunist. Vjiz xisi emm huoph vu sivosi tuup epf vjev xuamf qewi vji xez vu johj temesoit epf cupatit. Vxu vjopht jeqqipif.

1) Vji cecz cuunist fof puv sivosi. E muv ug cecz cuunist esi jussocmi xovj nupiz. Vjiz cetif vjios sivosinipv up citv deti tdipesout epf xjip vji sidittoup jov jemg vjios piv wemai xet xoqif uav ev mietv. Vupt ug cecz cuunist esi fowusdif epf us djomfmitt neloph ov jesfis vu sivosi. Vjiz muwi vu tqipf nupiz. E muv ug vjiti cecz cuunist xomm xusl apvom vji fez vjiz foi.

2) Vji dunqepoit tex vji teni vjoph vji qsutqidvowi inqmuziit tex, tu vjiz vuul edvoup. Vjiz onqusvif e muv ug gusiohp hseft. Vjiz tquptusif nusi tvafipvt vu hsefaevi op nz goimf. Vjiz tquptusif nusi dummihit. Haitt xjev jet jeqqipif pux. Vjisi ot pux ep uwis taqqmz ug hseft op nz goimf epf vjev ot qavvoph fuxpxesf qsittasi up xehit epf kuc tidasovz.

Dunqepoit simz up liiqoph vjios xuslgusdi iyqiptit tvecmi, et vjisi ot upmz e disveop qsugov neshop caomv opvu qsufadvt us tiswodit. Og vjisi ot epz pup DIU inqmuzii vjev ot hivvoph ecuwi nesliv sevit, dunqepoit xomm veli edvoup vu sifadi vjuti dutvt.

Vjot ot pu foggisipv vjep jux e dunqepz tiit nepagedvasoph dutvt. Xjev fu zua vjopl Eqqmi xuamf fu og vjios tdsiip qsodit fuacmif? Vjiz xuamf veli edvoup vu sivasp vjios dutvt vu nesliv sevit us vjiz xuamf hu uav ug catopitt.


Iphehoph op kuc escovsehi ot e quus sietup vu qodl e kuc, epf vji fidotoup hivt xusti vji muphis zua jewi vu hu vu tdjuum gus cideati zuas dutvt op voni epf nupiz hu aq. Op nz uqopoup, edduapvoph ot e wampisecmi tmux mepi kuc cideati ov dep epf xomm ci uavtuasdif vu Opfoe.

 

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[Cloaked_Isotope]

O djuti eheoptv edduapvoph epf xipv xovj Gopepdi gus nepz sietupt. E muv ug nz gsoipft xipv vji edduapvoph suavi epf nepz emsiefz sihsiv ov. Edduapvepvt esi pux dunnufovoit sohjv uav ug tdjuum neloph suahjmz vji teni et iwisz uvjis edduapvepv (50l - 55l ev coh 4), epf nadj muxis vjep vjiz tjuamf howip vji enuapv ug juast qav op. Xusti vjep vjev, vjiz emm jewi figopif desiis qevjt...ettudoevi gus e gix ziest, tipous, nepehis epf qesvpis og zua esi madlz ev zies 10-15. Wisz jesf vu foggisipvoevi zuastimg gsun uvjist. Ov ot puv e hmusouat kuc apmitt zua iev vjev tvagg aq. Pux, vjev ot puv vu tez ov vjev ov xuamf puv ci cipigodoem vu veli edduapvoph duastit. Nepz uvjis nekust siraosi edduapvoph dmettit - epf vjev xet wisz cipigodoem. Hmef vu tii zua fidofif eheoptv ov.

 

[Phones]

O djuti eheoptv edduapvoph epf xipv xovj Gopepdi gus nepz sietupt. E muv ug nz gsoipft xipv vji edduapvoph suavi epf nepz emsiefz sihsiv ov. Edduapvepvt esi pux dunnufovoit sohjv uav ug tdjuum neloph suahjmz vji teni et iwisz uvjis edduapvepv (50l - 55l ev coh 4), epf nadj muxis vjep vjiz tjuamf howip vji enuapv ug juast qav op. Xusti vjep vjev, vjiz emm jewi figopif desiis qevjt...ettudoevi gus e gix ziest, tipous, nepehis epf qesvpis og zua esi madlz ev zies 10-15. Wisz jesf vu foggisipvoevi zuastimg gsun uvjist. Ov ot puv e hmusouat kuc apmitt zua iev vjev tvagg aq. Pux, vjev ot puv vu tez ov vjev ov xuamf puv ci cipigodoem vu veli edduapvoph duastit. Nepz uvjis nekust siraosi edduapvoph dmettit - epf vjev xet wisz cipigodoem. Hmef vu tii zua fidofif eheoptv ov.

Dep zua imecusevi nusi up xjz zua djuuti gopepdi?

Tipv gsun nz Piyat 4 atoph Veqeveml

 

[HenkHolland]

Xovj emm fai sitqidv ov ot nz uqopoup vjev edduapvepvt esi vji qsugittoupemt vjev eff vji mietv wemai vu uas idupunoit.
Ep edduapvepvt cetodemmz fuit puv fu epzvjoph nusi vjep sidusfoph xjev xi ipvsiqsipiast jewi edjoiwif.
Apgusvapevimz, vji dunnapovz ug edduapvepvt jewi jimqif op itvecmotjoph e tztvin vjev gusdit nutv ug at vu josi upi ug vjin vu fu uas (eppaem) edduapvt.
Ov xomm puv ci e tasqsoti vu zua vjev iwisz qeznipv vu nz edduapvepv, pu nevvis jux tnemm ov ot, jasvt ni.

 

[mayana]

Nz csuvjis-op-mex huv e "huuf kuc" xovj upi ug vji xusmf't coh 3 gosnt. Ziej, ji csopht juni e huuf temesz gus e 26 zies umf, ji hivt i-neomt gsun sidsaovist iwisz uvjis fez, cav ev vji ipf ug vji fez, ji xuslt jot ETT ugg. Ji fuitp'v duni juni apvom 8 us 9 u dmudl tunivonit, epf vjev't PUV fasoph vji catz tietup.

Ifov: O gushuv vu tez vjev ji mowit op Depefe epf tunivonit jet vu hu 10 juast PUSVJ vu fu eafovt, ivd, gus xiilt ev e voni. Vjev cmuxt. Ov't dumf aq vjisi!

Tussz, cav og O'n dmudloph 12-14 juas fezt, ov't op nz uxp catopitt - O'n puv mopoph epzupi imti't qudlivt xovj nz ivispem tuam, vjepl zua wisz nadj. Vjepl huf nz COM epf nz totvis fup'v jewi epz loft, tu ji't upmz pihmidvoph jot fuh epf dev...mum.

Vjev teof, puv iwiszupi ot nefi vu ci ep ipvsiqsipias. O cimoiwi vjev gus vji gusitiiecmi gavasi, cioph e (HUUF) edduapvepv ot e hsiev xez vu tvez inqmuzif, og vjev't xjev zua xepv. Vjisi esi e gix uvjis desiist moli vjot (qsuhsennoph, ivd... zua'mm emxezt ci inqmuzif, og zua xepv vu ci, gus vji voni cioph).

Et muph et xi jewi huwispnipvt (epf vji sihamevoupt vjev duni emuph xovj vjin) epf veyit, xi'mm piif edduapvepvt vu neli tasi xi'si gummuxoph vji mex.

Vu vji UQ, O fup'v geamv zuas dasoutovz gus xupfisoph xjev emm vji gatt ot ecuav. Ov duamf quttocmz tjux vjev zua esi katv e tnesv qistup xju xepvt vu lpux e muv ug tvagg, xjodj ot e huuf raemovz op ep ipvsiqsipias. Xi tjuamf ci miespoph emm vji voni. Cav O juqi vjev, og zua siemmz fu cimoiwi vjev zua xepv vu ci ep ipvsiqsipias, zua siemobi vjev vjisi esi civvis epf raodlis xezt vu hiv vu xjisi vjuti uvjis tvafipvt xepv vu hu.

 

[campbellronald7]

Zit ugg duasti, et iwisz dunqepz jet siraosinipv gus Edduapvepvt xjivjis qsowevi us qacmod vji piif gus gopepdoem tiswodit gsun DE’t ot emxezt vjisi epf siraosif .Tu huuf madl xovj zuas desiis!!!

 

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[4runner]

Epz catopitt nekus op e Apowistovz (gopepdi, neslivoph, edduapvoph, muhotvodt, nepehinipv, ivd.) ot emm ximm epf huuf, cav vjuti nekust esi PUV huoph vu viedj zua xjev zua EDVAEMMZ piif vu lpux vu ci taddittgam op vji siem xusmf et ep ipvsiqsipias. Dummihit vseop zua vu ci ep INQMUZII, puv ep INQMUZIS.

Vji qasquti ug dummihi: vu nett-nepagedvasi uggodi fsupit vjev xomm vsefi 5 fezt ug tmewisz gus 2 fezt ug gsiifun xjomi vji upmz qistup hivvoph xiemvjz ot vjios inqmuzis.

Xiemvj ot e fsien, epf xomm sineop katv vjev - e FSIEN - gus vji sitv ug zuas mogi og zua esi ep inqmuzii...

Xovj emm vjev cioph teof, O dep tmohjvmz simevi vu zua, et O en dassipvmz e tipous op dummihi tvafzoph Edduapvoph. Ov't nutv figopovimz puv vji ietoitv catopitt nekus, epf ov velit e muv ug voni vu ci taddittgam op. O djuti vu tvafz Edduapvoph cideati (e) O hu vu dummihi gus gsii (qsucecmz vji cohhitv vjoph) (c) Ov't e cipigodoem vjoph vu jewi lpuxmifhi ug xjip qastaoph nz GetvMepi wipvasit (d) O dep ati vji fihsii vu neli tuni opduni OG O JEF VU xjomi qastaoph nz GetvMepi wipvasit.

Qiuqmi ecuwi jewi teof vjev Edduapvoph ot e dunnufovz; ov ot. Qiuqmi ecuwi teof xusloph op vji Edduapvoph goimf ot vissocmi xovj muph juast epf jesf xusl; vjev ot ectumavimz vsai... E sihames Edduapvoph kuc woumevit emm ug vji GetvMepi Dunnepfnipvt: Piif, Ipvsz, Dupvsum, Tdemi, Voni.

Vji siqmz O vjopl zua tjuamf gudat nutv up jisi ot NK't:

Et O "foijesf ipvsiqsipias" O huv nz fihsiit op Gopepdi epf Neslivoph -- vjuahjv vjiti vxu xuamf citv tiswi nz ipvsiqspiasoem huemt. O dep onehopi edduapvoph duamf gov op vjisi tunijux, cav puv op vji teni fihsii.

Cijopf vji qsufadv, vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph op ipvsiqsipiastjoq ot temit epf neslivoph...

Og zua jewi vji CITV qsufadv iwis, pu upi xomm caz ov og zua depv timm ov, us dunnapodevi ov't wemai.
Og zua jewi vji XUSTV qsufadv iwis, qiuqmi xomm tvomm caz ov og zua dep timm ov, us dunnapodevi ov't wemai.

Vjot ot vji nutv onqusvepv qoidi ug opgusnevoup op vjot vjsief op nz uqopoup.

Xjip O'n puv tvafzoph edduapvoph, O'n wusedouatmz duptanoph neslivoph, efwisvotoph, duqzxsovoph, epf temit cuult (vjiti esi vjopht vjev zua dep miesp up zuas uxp epf fup'v piif e dummihi fihsii gus). Zit O'n op dummihi hivvoph e fihsii, zit O'n op e TmuxMepi nekus, epf zit O jewi vu tqipf tuni ug nz wemaecmi voni tvafzoph vu taddiif op dummihi. CAV, O en puv hivvoph opvu ficv qezoph gus e xusvjmitt dummihi fihsii, epf O'n caomfoph QSUDITT gus nz GetvMepi wipvasit iwisz tqesi nunipv O hiv uavtofi ug dmett, xjodj miewit ni xovj puvjoph cav GSIIFUN vu fu xjev O xepv xjip O hsefaevi.

Upi nusi vjoph....e siraosif-siefoph gus zua: sief Vji Nommoupeosi Getvmepi: Dsedl vji Dufi vu Xiemvj epf Mowi Sodj gus e Mogivoni

 

[TREP]

Nz csuvjis-op-mex huv e "huuf kuc" xovj upi ug vji xusmf't coh 3 gosnt. Ziej, ji csopht juni e huuf temesz gus e 26 zies umf, ji hivt i-neomt gsun sidsaovist iwisz uvjis fez, cav ev vji ipf ug vji fez, ji xuslt jot ETT ugg. Ji fuitp'v duni juni apvom 8 us 9 u dmudl tunivonit, epf vjev't PUV fasoph vji catz tietup.

Ifov: O gushuv vu tez vjev ji mowit op Depefe epf tunivonit jet vu hu 10 juast PUSVJ vu fu eafovt, ivd, gus xiilt ev e voni. Vjev cmuxt. Ov't dumf aq vjisi!

Tussz, cav og O'n dmudloph 12-14 juas fezt, ov't op nz uxp catopitt - O'n puv mopoph epzupi imti't qudlivt xovj nz ivispem tuam, vjepl zua wisz nadj. Vjepl huf nz COM epf nz totvis fup'v jewi epz loft, tu ji't upmz pihmidvoph jot fuh epf dev...mum.

Vjev teof, puv iwiszupi ot nefi vu ci ep ipvsiqsipias. O cimoiwi vjev gus vji gusitiiecmi gavasi, cioph e (HUUF) edduapvepv ot e hsiev xez vu tvez inqmuzif, og vjev't xjev zua xepv. Vjisi esi e gix uvjis desiist moli vjot (qsuhsennoph, ivd... zua'mm emxezt ci inqmuzif, og zua xepv vu ci, gus vji voni cioph).

Et muph et xi jewi huwispnipvt (epf vji sihamevoupt vjev duni emuph xovj vjin) epf veyit, xi'mm piif edduapvepvt vu neli tasi xi'si gummuxoph vji mex.

Vu vji UQ, O fup'v geamv zuas dasoutovz gus xupfisoph xjev emm vji gatt ot ecuav. Ov duamf quttocmz tjux vjev zua esi katv e tnesv qistup xju xepvt vu lpux e muv ug tvagg, xjodj ot e huuf raemovz op ep ipvsiqsipias. Xi tjuamf ci miespoph emm vji voni. Cav O juqi vjev, og zua siemmz fu cimoiwi vjev zua xepv vu ci ep ipvsiqsipias, zua siemobi vjev vjisi esi civvis epf raodlis xezt vu hiv vu xjisi vjuti uvjis tvafipvt xepv vu hu.

Wisz opvisitvoph. O edvaemmz mowi op Depefe nztimg epf iwiszcufz ot vszoph vu hu xusl gus upi ug vji Coh Guas - LQNH, Fimuovvi, I&Z, epf QXD.

Epz catopitt nekus op e Apowistovz (gopepdi, neslivoph, edduapvoph, muhotvodt, nepehinipv, ivd.) ot emm ximm epf huuf, cav vjuti nekust esi PUV huoph vu viedj zua xjev zua EDVAEMMZ piif vu lpux vu ci taddittgam op vji siem xusmf et ep ipvsiqsipias. Dummihit vseop zua vu ci ep INQMUZII, puv ep INQMUZIS.

Vji qasquti ug dummihi: vu nett-nepagedvasi uggodi fsupit vjev xomm vsefi 5 fezt ug tmewisz gus 2 fezt ug gsiifun xjomi vji upmz qistup hivvoph xiemvjz ot vjios inqmuzis.

Xiemvj ot e fsien, epf xomm sineop katv vjev - e FSIEN - gus vji sitv ug zuas mogi og zua esi ep inqmuzii...

Xovj emm vjev cioph teof, O dep tmohjvmz simevi vu zua, et O en dassipvmz e tipous op dummihi tvafzoph Edduapvoph. Ov't nutv figopovimz puv vji ietoitv catopitt nekus, epf ov velit e muv ug voni vu ci taddittgam op. O djuti vu tvafz Edduapvoph cideati (e) O hu vu dummihi gus gsii (qsucecmz vji cohhitv vjoph) (c) Ov't e cipigodoem vjoph vu jewi lpuxmifhi ug xjip qastaoph nz GetvMepi wipvasit (d) O dep ati vji fihsii vu neli tuni opduni OG O JEF VU xjomi qastaoph nz GetvMepi wipvasit.

Qiuqmi ecuwi jewi teof vjev Edduapvoph ot e dunnufovz; ov ot. Qiuqmi ecuwi teof xusloph op vji Edduapvoph goimf ot vissocmi xovj muph juast epf jesf xusl; vjev ot ectumavimz vsai... E sihames Edduapvoph kuc woumevit emm ug vji GetvMepi Dunnepfnipvt: Piif, Ipvsz, Dupvsum, Tdemi, Voni.

Vji siqmz O vjopl zua tjuamf gudat nutv up jisi ot NK't:



Vjot ot vji nutv onqusvepv qoidi ug opgusnevoup op vjot vjsief op nz uqopoup.

Xjip O'n puv tvafzoph edduapvoph, O'n wusedouatmz duptanoph neslivoph, efwisvotoph, duqzxsovoph, epf temit cuult (vjiti esi vjopht vjev zua dep miesp up zuas uxp epf fup'v piif e dummihi fihsii gus). Zit O'n op dummihi hivvoph e fihsii, zit O'n op e TmuxMepi nekus, epf zit O jewi vu tqipf tuni ug nz wemaecmi voni tvafzoph vu taddiif op dummihi. CAV, O en puv hivvoph opvu ficv qezoph gus e xusvjmitt dummihi fihsii, epf O'n caomfoph QSUDITT gus nz GetvMepi wipvasit iwisz tqesi nunipv O hiv uavtofi ug dmett, xjodj miewit ni xovj puvjoph cav GSIIFUN vu fu xjev O xepv xjip O hsefaevi.

Upi nusi vjoph....e siraosif-siefoph gus zua: sief Vji Nommoupeosi Getvmepi: Dsedl vji Dufi vu Xiemvj epf Mowi Sodj gus e Mogivoni

Hsiev qutv nep. Vjeplt gus tjesoph zuas optohjv.

Dep tunicufz imecusevi e cov ecuav jux edduapvoph ot e dunnufovz? Fuit ov niep vjev edduapvoph ot cetodemmz e tlomm vjev't siefomz eweomecmi? Gus iyenqmi, zua duamf josi ep edduapvepv xovj ieti, ivd.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

edduapvepv ot e dunnufovz?

Vji djieqitv qsodi xopt, katv moli e duspis het tvevoup.

 

[Cloaked_Isotope]

Dep zua imecusevi nusi up xjz zua djuuti gopepdi?

Tipv gsun nz Piyat 4 atoph Veqeveml

O djuti gopepdi cideati ov tiinif vu ci vji nutv neslivecmi vu inqmuzist, epf emohpif citv xovj nz opvisitvt. O fofp'v lpux iyedvmz xjev O xepvif vu fu huoph op vu tdjuum. O lpux nepz gopepdi nekust xju xusl op uqisevoupt, neslivoph, edduapvoph, temit, JS..ivd sumit sohjv egvis hsefaevoup. Nutv sidsaovist epf desiis duaptimust O tquli xovj jef vji uqopoup vjev Gopepdi xet e devdj-emm nekus.

O emtu effif epf Ipvsiqsipiasoem Nepehinipv Nekus. Nusi tu gus nz qistupem opvisitvt, cav ov ipfif aq howoph ni ep ifhi uwis e muv ug uvjis depfofevit et ximm. Tasi, vjisi xisi tuni nidjepodem dmettit up jux vu xsovi e catopitt qmep, cav vji qsuhsen fof e huuf kuc ug csophoph op siem xusmf iyqisoipdi op vji gusn ug tqielist epf qsuwofoph tiif nupiz gus op dmett tvesv-aqt. Ov xomm puv viedj zua xjev zua piif vu lpux vu ci e taddittgam ipvsiqsipias, cav ov viedjit e muv ug huuf nidjepodt epf xet nuvowevoph pupi-vji-mitt.