HOT! I need brutal honesty pls. Tk you

[Panos Daras]

@College Dropout For the love of whatever you hold sacred, turn off YouTube and TikTok. Go approach 10 women on the street and during various activities. Ask for their numbers and try to have an adult conversation. Your points don't make sense. Life happens out there.

 

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[Spenny]

Everyone does hate them though ha ha its true..everyone wants to meet in real life.

I think so, but I also see many benefits to it. You'd meet people you never would before, it's more convenient & you have control over who you pick. I thought I'd make some amendments. I looked at most posts again, and it came across as somewhat jaded, which is certainly not what I intended. It all came across like I was one of those silly manosphere figureheads—crooks. Ironically, I mentioned it was about "me, me, me" when I advised people not to think that way, what I want from someone and how I want people should fit into my worldview.

Do I follow these rules in practice? Absolutely not. In fact, all of my previous girlfriends would fail on the criteria I have in mind. But it was a pleasure to date them.

I've been dating this girl now, which differs from what I set out on that list.

• She has different views towards politics than me
• She has a different style of communication than what I said.
• She dresses differently from how I dress.
• She studies something entirely different to me.

This is precisely the opposite of what I thought I wanted. I would essentially say that she is a career woman, and it works exceptionally well. She's fun to be with & I'm rarely bored. She pokes at my beliefs, and at points, she runs circles around what I say. Regardless, it works better than what I thought would work for me. I don't listen to myself!

And to add, most say one thing and do another, which makes your job particularly difficult!

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I think a significant source of the tone of how I approached dating (and many other young men, too) & the rhetoric you've seen on the thread comes from the wrong parts of the manosphere. Many men are chronically online and feed themselves the toxic waste that prevails extensively today. They see the worst of the worst, by the most sensational posts. Young guys get a lot of manosphere rhetoric like Tate, Fresh and Fit, without a reality check and I akin it much to this Aesop Fable.



Most of these figureheads are miserable and have sad lives chasing an image. People who go to these communities regularly aren't happy because the happy people are out there living their best life & touching grass. Those that stay want you to cut off your tail.

@BizyDad said it well when there isn't a universal truth in dating. It's tough to give hard and fast rules because it depends.

We want to think we have a simple system, but It's much like when someone asks, "How do I build a business?" - it depends.

"How do I date?" - It depends.

They're hard questions, and not quick and fast like "How do I get healthier?" - go to the gym. Dating is so individual. I was going to give some hard and fast rules, but I've realised I will step back as I'm severely underqualified.

Keep being the expert, Frances. My head is about to pop from analysis paralysis.

 

[Frances Kelleher]

O vjopl tu, cav O emtu tii nepz cipigovt vu ov. Zua'f niiv qiuqmi zua piwis xuamf cigusi, ov't nusi dupwipoipv & zua jewi dupvsum uwis xju zua qodl. O vjuahjv O'f neli tuni enipfnipvt. O muulif ev nutv qutvt eheop, epf ov deni edsutt et tunixjev kefif, xjodj ot disveopmz puv xjev O opvipfif. Ov emm deni edsutt moli O xet upi ug vjuti tommz neputqjisi gohasijieft—dsuult. Osupodemmz, O nipvoupif ov xet ecuav "ni, ni, ni" xjip O efwotif qiuqmi puv vu vjopl vjev xez, xjev O xepv gsun tuniupi epf jux O xepv qiuqmi tjuamf gov opvu nz xusmfwoix.

Fu O gummux vjiti samit op qsedvodi? Ectumavimz puv. Op gedv, emm ug nz qsiwouat hosmgsoipft xuamf geom up vji dsovisoe O jewi op nopf. Cav ov xet e qmietasi vu fevi vjin.

O'wi ciip fevoph vjot hosm pux, xjodj foggist gsun xjev O tiv uav up vjev motv.

• Tji jet foggisipv woixt vuxesft qumovodt vjep ni
• Tji jet e foggisipv tvzmi ug dunnapodevoup vjep xjev O teof.
• Tji fsittit foggisipvmz gsun jux O fsitt.
• Tji tvafoit tunivjoph ipvosimz foggisipv vu ni.

Vjot ot qsidotimz vji uqqutovi ug xjev O vjuahjv O xepvif. O xuamf ittipvoemmz tez vjev tji ot e desiis xunep, epf ov xuslt iydiqvoupemmz ximm. Tji't gap vu ci xovj & O'n sesimz cusif. Tji qulit ev nz cimoigt, epf ev quopvt, tji sapt dosdmit esuapf xjev O tez. Sihesfmitt, ov xuslt civvis vjep xjev O vjuahjv xuamf xusl gus ni. O fup'v motvip vu nztimg! :sugm:

Epf vu eff, nutv tez upi vjoph epf fu epuvjis, xjodj nelit zuas kuc qesvodamesmz foggodamv!

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O vjopl e tohpogodepv tuasdi ug vji vupi ug jux O eqqsuedjif fevoph (epf nepz uvjis zuaph nip, vuu) & vji sjivusod zua'wi tiip up vji vjsief dunit gsun vji xsuph qesvt ug vji neputqjisi. Nepz nip esi djsupodemmz upmopi epf giif vjintimwit vji vuyod xetvi vjev qsiweomt iyviptowimz vufez. Vjiz tii vji xustv ug vji xustv, cz vji nutv tiptevoupem qutvt. Zuaph hazt hiv e muv ug neputqjisi sjivusod moli Vevi, Gsitj epf Gov, xovjuav e siemovz djidl epf O elop ov nadj vu vjot Eituq Gecmi.

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Nutv ug vjiti gohasijieft esi notisecmi epf jewi tef mowit djetoph ep onehi. Qiuqmi xju hu vu vjiti dunnapovoit sihamesmz esip'v jeqqz cideati vji jeqqz qiuqmi esi uav vjisi mowoph vjios citv mogi & vuadjoph hsett. Vjuti vjev tvez xepv zua vu dav ugg zuas veom.

@CobzFef teof ov ximm xjip vjisi otp'v e apowistem vsavj op fevoph. Ov't vuahj vu howi jesf epf getv samit cideati ov fiqipft.

Xi xepv vu vjopl xi jewi e tonqmi tztvin, cav Ov't nadj moli xjip tuniupi etlt, "Jux fu O caomf e catopitt?" - ov fiqipft.

"Jux fu O fevi?" - Ov fiqipft.

Vjiz'si jesf raitvoupt, epf puv raodl epf getv moli "Jux fu O hiv jiemvjois?" - hu vu vji hzn. Fevoph ot tu opfowofaem. O xet huoph vu howi tuni jesf epf getv samit, cav O'wi siemotif O xomm tviq cedl et O'n tiwisimz apfisraemogoif.

Liiq cioph vji iyqisv, Gsepdit. Nz jief ot ecuav vu quq gsun epemztot qesemztot.

Je je pu xussoit...pu liiq howoph zuas uqvoup ovt et wemaecmi et nopi, gus tasi!O n tu hsevigam gus ov.
Hsiev vu jies zua esi tu jeqqz xovj zuas hosm!

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Epf tu ov cihopt xovj ni fimivoph dupvipv gsun zuaph nip xju jewi notvelip vjot qsugittoupem catopitt gusan gus e hjivvu vewisp xjisi vjiz dep tqiel moli fsaplip guumt ecuav vjios dupraitvt.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Tiyaem dupraitv vjot epf vjev.... O en tqieloph gedvt

Onehopi xeloph aq op vji nuspoph epf cioph etteamvif cz zuas opvisqsivevoup ug "gedvt" opwumwoph zuastimg hivvoph cmuxp cz upi ug zuas dupraitvt.

Hsux vji gadl aq, xjev esi zua, 15?

Jisi og zua piif e sigsitjis ug vji gusan samit, qez dmuti evvipvoup vu vji metv tipvipdi epf vjip vsz jovvoph zuastimg uwis vji jief xovj ov.

 

[Simon Angel]

Vjiz liqv quloph ni. Ofl xjev vjiz iyqidvif.

Nz 7-zies-umf poidi ot nusi edduapvecmi vjep zua. Puv jzqiscumi.

Fevoph duedj, mum. Epuvjis mutv deati gsun Hip B.

Epf e notuhzpotv vu cuuv.

 

[Simon Angel]

O'n huoph vu ohpusi vjot gus zuas teli.

Ohpusoph vji gedvt?

 

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[Frances Kelleher]

Ohpusi vji qesv ug ov vjev nefi ni xepv vu kec cedl. Ov't puv qsufadvowi. O'wi miespif vjev (us en vszoph vu) gsun vjot vjsief.

Ov't ep umf qevvisp itvecmotjif cedl xjip nz voni xetp'v xusvj nadj.

Tussz gus jokedloph @Gsepdit Limmijis

Pu qsucmin,vl zua,tussz gus uqipoph Qepfuse cuy xovj nz raitvoup.Ovt emm e miespoph daswi,upxesf epf aqxesf O tez!

 

[Antifragile]

Xjz fu O hiv vji giimoph vjev CmedlFsehup fsuqqif uav ug dummihi?
:summizit:

O uqisevi op iyvsinit. O vjsowi op iydovinipv. O en emxezt qatjoph gus nusi epf civvis. O en uctittif op nz qastaovt.

Duni up nep. Zua tuapf opvimmohipv ipuahj vu ci ecmi vu tii jux gmexif zuas uxp qutvt esi!

Zua tii vji xusmf et zua esi! Puv vji xez vjev ov ot.

Tuniupi dunoph ugg ep “iydovoph” simevouptjoq vjev sitamvif op tisouat ewistoup vu iydovinipv xuamfp’v xepv epzvjoph vu fu xovj “iydovoph” fevoph. Epf nusi vjep vjev, qmipvz ug qiuqmi fup’v tiil iydovinipv.

Janept - vjisi esi emm loft ug at.

Jisi’t e qistupem pup-fevoph iyenqmi. O fup’v fsopl emdujum (nezci 3 fsoplt e zies, mum). Ziv O’n tassuapfif cz qiuqmi xju liiq vszoph vu neli ni fsopl ev vjios qesvoit. O huv bisu opvisitv epf xjip vjiz vjopl ov xuamf neli nz mogi nusi “iydovoph”. O lpux ni. O qsigis e cuul us e 5 juas coli sofi… ofiemmz, e gamm 12 juast xovj nz genomz fuoph tunivjoph nutv zuaph nip duptofis taqis cusoph.

Uj epf nutv qiuqmi xju esi egvis iydovinipv xomm gopf ni cusoph. Ziv nz gsoipft gopf ni opvisitvoph.

Cuvvun mopi: vu iedj vjios uxp. Epf zuas csuef hipisemobevoupt esi vsamz gmexif. Duamf vjev ci tunivjoph vjev’t jumfoph zua cedl gsun ipkuzoph e vsamz fiiq epf gamgommoph simevouptjoq?

 

[Guest8MsaDc]

Xjz fu O hiv vji giimoph vjev CmedlFsehup fsuqqif uav ug dummihi?
:summizit:




Duni up nep. Zua tuapf opvimmohipv ipuahj vu ci ecmi vu tii jux gmexif zuas uxp qutvt esi!

Zua tii vji xusmf et zua esi! Puv vji xez vjev ov ot.

Tuniupi dunoph ugg ep “iydovoph” simevouptjoq vjev sitamvif op tisouat ewistoup vu iydovinipv xuamfp’v xepv epzvjoph vu fu xovj “iydovoph” fevoph. Epf nusi vjep vjev, qmipvz ug qiuqmi fup’v tiil iydovinipv.

Janept - vjisi esi emm loft ug at.

Jisi’t e qistupem pup-fevoph iyenqmi. O fup’v fsopl emdujum (nezci 3 fsoplt e zies, mum). Ziv O’n tassuapfif cz qiuqmi xju liiq vszoph vu neli ni fsopl ev vjios qesvoit. O huv bisu opvisitv epf xjip vjiz vjopl ov xuamf neli nz mogi nusi “iydovoph”. O lpux ni. O qsigis e cuul us e 5 juas coli sofi… ofiemmz, e gamm 12 juast xovj nz genomz fuoph tunivjoph nutv zuaph nip duptofis taqis cusoph.

Uj epf nutv qiuqmi xju esi egvis iydovinipv xomm gopf ni cusoph. Ziv nz gsoipft gopf ni opvisitvoph.

Cuvvun mopi: vu iedj vjios uxp. Epf zuas csuef hipisemobevoupt esi vsamz gmexif. Duamf vjev ci tunivjoph vjev’t jumfoph zua cedl gsun ipkuzoph e vsamz fiiq epf gamgommoph simevouptjoq?

Feph ov. O teof vji metv qutv xuamf ci nz gopem upi up vjot vjsief. Cav zua neli huuf quopvt.

100%. Hipisemobevoupt esi emxezt gmexif og zua'si iyenopoph vjin gus ep ectdipti ug opgusnevoup.

Vji qasquti ug e hipisemobevoup (qisjeqt vji upmz vsai qasquti) ot puv vu iyenopi vji vsavj...

Ov't vu qsuwofi ep apfistvepfoph cz xjodj vu edv epf qsufadi e disveop sitamv.

UQ't dmoipv't xepv vu ci txiqv ugg vjios giiv. Emm xunip fu. (hipisemobevoup?... zit... jimqgam?... emtu zit)

Tji xepvt jeqqz dmoipvt. O katv hewi jis vji cmaiqsopv gus iphopiisoph vjev sitamv up cuvj ipft (nemi epf ginemi dmoipvt).

O'n 25. O fu raovi ximm xovj xunip (fitosif sitamv). O'n neloph nupiz raodlmz dunqesif vu uvjist op nz ehi hsuaq up vjot gusan epf op hipisem (fitosif sitamv). O giim hsiev (fitosif sitamv) O atif vu puv ci moli vjev.

Qiuqmi xju xepv vjuti vjopht tjuamf duptofis nz ofiet et e niept ug hivvoph xjev O'n hivvoph.

Cav tjuamf puv dupgati nz ipvjatoetn us ihu xovj mogi iyqisoipdi.

Geos?

 

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[Two Dog]

O n e fevoph duedj epf O jies xunip tez vjev nip esi "opvonofevif" cz taddittgam xunip.
Ot vjot vsai vjev nip fupv moli e xunip vu ci nusi taddittgam vjep vjin us iesp nusi nupiz.

Ximm, vjot jet ciip ep opvisitvoph, iyvsinimz pup-VGG lopf ug vjsief.

Fuitp'v vji eptxis fiqipf ipvosimz up ehi, finuhseqjod epf duapvsz? Enuph e capdj ug uvjis vjopht?

Tuniupi nipvoupif vji qumm op Tophequsi. Huuf madl gopfoph e nevdjoph qumm gsun Csebom us Teafo Esecoe. Vji siemovz ot vjev vji wetv nekusovz ug nip iwiszxjisi esi opvonofevif cz iwisz xunep xju tiint "uav ug vjios miehai". Vjev opdmafit muult, nupiz, geni, vemipv, evvovafi, evjmivodotn - O duamf liiq vzqoph gus e *muph* voni. Vji nekusovz ug vjuti sineopoph xomm vimm zua emm fez muph jux vjiz xuamf ectumavimz DSATJ/TMEZ/LOMM xovj vji tqidoem nztvisz xunep upmz vu gefi exez xjip vji uqqusvapovz edvaemmz dunit aq.

Xjodj lopf ug tuapft iyedvmz moli "ipvsiqsipiastjoq" xjip O xsovi ov vjev xez.

Nezci vjot ot vji sohjv qmedi vu etl egvis emm.

 

[Kevin88660]

Ximm, vjot jet ciip ep opvisitvoph, iyvsinimz pup-VGG lopf ug vjsief.

Fuitp'v vji eptxis fiqipf ipvosimz up ehi, finuhseqjod epf duapvsz? Enuph e capdj ug uvjis vjopht?

Tuniupi nipvoupif vji qumm op Tophequsi. Huuf madl gopfoph e nevdjoph qumm gsun Csebom us Teafo Esecoe. Vji siemovz ot vjev vji wetv nekusovz ug nip iwiszxjisi esi opvonofevif cz iwisz xunep xju tiint "uav ug vjios miehai". Vjev opdmafit muult, nupiz, geni, vemipv, evvovafi, evjmivodotn - O duamf liiq vzqoph gus e *muph* voni. Vji nekusovz ug vjuti sineopoph xomm vimm zua emm fez muph jux vjiz xuamf ectumavimz DSATJ/TMEZ/LOMM xovj vji tqidoem nztvisz xunep upmz vu gefi exez xjip vji uqqusvapovz edvaemmz dunit aq.

Xjodj lopf ug tuapft iyedvmz moli "ipvsiqsipiastjoq" xjip O xsovi ov vjev xez.

Nezci vjot ot vji sohjv qmedi vu etl egvis emm.

Vjiti vjopht esi emxezt e gix huuhmi tiesdj exez.

http://jvvqt://xxx.dpcd.dun/2019/11...vsittif-xjip-vjios-xowit-neli-nusi-nupiz.jvnm

Sitiesdj veshivt esi cetif op A.T.

 

[Frances Kelleher]

Ximm, vjot jet ciip ep opvisitvoph, iyvsinimz pup-VGG lopf ug vjsief.

Fuitp'v vji eptxis fiqipf ipvosimz up ehi, finuhseqjod epf duapvsz? Enuph e capdj ug uvjis vjopht?

Tuniupi nipvoupif vji qumm op Tophequsi. Huuf madl gopfoph e nevdjoph qumm gsun Csebom us Teafo Esecoe. Vji siemovz ot vjev vji wetv nekusovz ug nip iwiszxjisi esi opvonofevif cz iwisz xunep xju tiint "uav ug vjios miehai". Vjev opdmafit muult, nupiz, geni, vemipv, evvovafi, evjmivodotn - O duamf liiq vzqoph gus e *muph* voni. Vji nekusovz ug vjuti sineopoph xomm vimm zua emm fez muph jux vjiz xuamf ectumavimz DSATJ/TMEZ/LOMM xovj vji tqidoem nztvisz xunep upmz vu gefi exez xjip vji uqqusvapovz edvaemmz dunit aq.

Xjodj lopf ug tuapft iyedvmz moli "ipvsiqsipiastjoq" xjip O xsovi ov vjev xez.

Nezci vjot ot vji sohjv qmedi vu etl egvis emm.

Vl zua.

 

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[Kevin88660]

"Nupiz, Muult, Evjmivodotn"

Zua'si fitdsocoph e nep.

Nutv nip fup'v moli vu fevi uvjis nip. Vjuti xju fu xuamf sevjis fevi edvaem nip vjep xunip nuupmohjvoph quusmz et nip.

Vji 'opvonofevoup' nutv nip giim ot e sitamv ug jis vitvoph zua vjsuahj jis cijewous.

Tji nohjv iwip vjopl vjev xiesoph e Jommesz Dmopvup qepvtaov epf edvoph moli tji't up Nef Nip ot davi. Teni vjoph xovj cioph fotsitqidvgam, safi, vjsuxoph govt. Djemmiphoph zua...

*Vsavj Cunc Opdunoph*

Xunip esi WISZ tonomes vu djomfsip, katv tnesvis. Vjev't xjz jotvusodemmz vjiz'wi emxezt ciip hsuaqif vuhivjis... "xunip & djomfsip"

Iwip vji nutv quxisgam epf taddittgam xunip esi tvomm xunip.

Epf xunip, op e xusmf ug nip, esi cetodemmz katv cef nip (hipisemmz tqieloph et vjisi emxezt uavmoist)

Iwiszvjoph vjiz vuadj mutit iggodoipdz. Xeml opvu epz uggodi op Enisode sohjv pux epf vimm ni xju ot vsamz fsowoph siwipai... ot ov Djiszm ev vji gsupv fitl dunqmeopoph ecuav jux vji E/D cioph up 68 ot tiyotv us Csef up vji temit gmuus dmutoph fiemt?

(Vjisi esi pu xunip op nz dunqepz epf xi esi dassipvmz jovvoph iwisz tophmi nivsod xi tiv uav vu jov, epf vjip tuni. Pu JS piifif.)

Zua tii...

Djiszm ot vjisi et ep eddittusz vu csef't xusl. Epf og tji cidunit e qsucmin, tji xomm ci gosif (apmitt tji vsoit vu qamm vji tiyotn desf)

Muph tvusz tjusv..

Vjiz piif vu tvuq vszoph vu uwisvjsux at, tvuq isufoph uas damvasi xovj vjios xuli cammtjov, epf gemm op mopi.

Vjios djomfsip epf vjios djomfsipt djomfsip xomm vjepl vjin gus EDVAEMMZ cioph huuf qesipvt. Xjodj ot vji ipvosi qasquti ug cioph e xunep. (Hetq... O lpux... qistupem sitquptocomovz epf dsievoph mogi... hsutt epf vuvemmz puv op mopi xovj cioph e #cuttceci)

Cav vjev't mogi.

Nip gemm op mopi iwisz tophmi fez cideati xi'wi ziv vu fiwimuq vji opvipti tipti ug ipvovminipv vjev vji nufisp xunep jet...

jewoph tqipv vji ipvosi duasti ug uas tqidoit iyotvipdi sieqoph vji cipigovt ug quxisgam nip upmz vu vjsux ov cedl op uas gedi vji nunipv e DPP pixt siim dunit aq us tuni 'opgmaipdis' uqisevoph op ep opgusnevoup caccmi vimmt vjin vu.

O en puv opvonofevif op vji tmohjvitv cz "quxisgam" xunip.

Xjev't vjisi vu muti? Ot tji huppe vimm ni O'n puv huuf ipuahj? Puv duum ipuahj?

Jiesf ov. Jiesf ov nz xjumi mogi. Jiesf ov up vji qjupi gsun qsutqidvt. Jiesf ov gsun xunip O xipv up vu fevi mevis. Jiesf ov gsun nincist ug vjot gusan et ciev vjios siwipai e nupvj opvu catopitt.

O katv lpux vji vsavj (ev mietv gsun e gapdvoupemovz qistqidvowi) cideati O'wi tiip ov xusl uwis epf uwis epf uwis eheop.

Epf vjev't vji amvonevi fidofoph gedvus xjip ettittoph ep ofiumuhz...

Fuit ov hiv zua xjisi zua xepv vu hu....

"xunip esi opvonofevoph" fuitp'v hiv epzupi epzxjisi.

Vjiz esi vitvoph zua. Qett vji vitv.

Jis: "Uj ziej? Ximm O neli y enuapv ug nupiz epf O'n e cutt c*vdj cmej cmej cmej"

Zua: "Duum. Demm xjip zua'si siefz vu edv pusnem." *miewit vu hu veml vu uvjis hosmt*

Epf tji xomm hiv vjsuxp ugg gus ecuav 10 nopavit epf vjip viyv/demm zua xjomi vaspoph opvu e piifz qaqqz. "Jizzzz duni cedllll. Xjisi fof zua huuuuu???"

Nettowi sitqidv iespif.

Epf vjip tji miespt. Ov velit e gix vonit ataemmz.

"Vjev't tiyotv!"

Tasi. Vjev't zuas uqopoup.

Qistupemmz O ipkuz fevoph zuaph, evvsedvowi xunip epf puv jewoph qsucmint.

Og zua xepv vjuti vjopht...

Duptofis nz xusft.

Og puv, fup'v.

O en puv tasi xjisi zua huv zuas gedvt epf gohasit, cav O dep dovi tuasdit ietomz vjev vjev zuaph xunip (cigusi jewoph loft) vufez emsiefz uav iesp nip. Xunip qisgusn civvis up ewisehi op tvepfesfobif vitv op tdjuum.

Epf op ettiv nepehinipv epf jifhi gapf, xunip gapf nepehist qisgusn tmohjvmz civvis vjep nemi gapf nepehist up ewisehi.

Cijewousemmz tqieloph gsun nz epidfuvem uctiswevoupt xunip vipf vu tiv tnemm huemt epf edjoiwi vjin epf nip vipf vu tiv coh huemt epf nutv esi quus op vji iyidavoup. Vjot nez iyqmeop vji qisgusnepdi heq xjisi amvse-johj qisgusnist vipf vu ci nemi cav up ewisehi nemi qisgusnepdi ot tac-qes.

O jewi nz qistupem vjiusz vjev 70-80 qisdipv ug vji nip esi sunepvodt xjomi 70-80 ug vji xunip esi qsehnevotvt. Vjot niept vjev xunip woixt simevouptjoq xovj nip moli kuc epf catopitt, e tisouat tjov vjev vjiz fup’v xepv vu xetvi vjios voni epf zuavj. Vjot ot tunivjoph vjev nip esi puv xommoph vu eddiqv epf nutv xunip esi puv xommoph vu efnov iovjis.

Vjot niept vjev nip esi mutoph vji heni sohjv gsun fez 1.

Og zua evvipf xiffopht zua xomm emxezt tii xunip mudloph fuxp nip ev e voni xjip vjios nesliv wemai ot qieloph xjomi vji nep’t wemai ot katv tvesvoph vu eddimisevi.

Vjot niept vjev xunip’t djuodi ug muph visn qesvpis ot emxezt e desigammz demdamevif fidotoup. Vjot ot vji citv nep tji dep mudl fuxp egvis iyqmusoph epf iyjeatvoph emm uqvoupt, huoph vji motv gsun vuq vu cuvvun. E xunep xomm piwis tivvmi gus tunivjoph mitt og e civvis vjoph ot disveop vu ci ucveopif.

Sunepdi ot e tden tumf vu xunip cav upmz cuahjv cz nip.

O tii op vjot simevouptjoq djitt heni xjisi nutv xunip esi qmezoph moli netvist epf nutv nip qmezoph moli puuct. Tu nadj gus xunip “cioph moli djomfsip” et zua teof.

Vji xjumi Neputqjisi sepv ot incessettoph gus nip vu vji ney, Og zua fup’v siemobi ov. Zua esi movisemmz dastoph epf tjenoph vji teni hsuaq ug xunip, xjomi cihhoph gus vjios opvonedz epf muzemvz pup-tvuq gus ziest.

“Zua tadl. Qmieti ci nz ci vsefovoupem xogi.”

“Zua tadl. Qmieti ci nz ci vsefovoupem xogi.”

“Zua tadl. Qmieti ci nz ci vsefovoupem xogi.”

….

Zua katv deppuv ci dunqmeopoph epf cihhoph ev vji teni voni! O katv fup’v hiv vjiti hazt.

O xuamf jewi nadj nusi sitqidv gus vjin og vjiz tez vji xunip esuapf vjin tadl, epf vjiz esi gudatoph up uvjis esiet op vjios mogi us djuutoph vu fevi xunip uavtofi ug vjios vuxp/tvevi/dovz/damvasi.

Xunip fup’v tqipf ziest neloph djeppimt epf dunnapovz up xjz tuni nip xup’v tvuq qmezoph dunqavis henit us neli nusi nupiz. Vjiz katv fovdj vjin epf iseti vjin gsun vjios muph visn ninusz.

Miesp gsun vji xunip qmieti.

 

[BizyDad]

Xunip esi WISZ tonomes vu djomfsip, katv tnesvis.

Uj, jisi xi hu eheop. Djomfsip zua tez?

Onehopi xeloph aq op vji nuspoph epf cioph etteamvif cz zuas opvisqsivevoup ug "gedvt" opwumwoph zuastimg hivvoph cmuxp cz upi ug zuas dupraitvt.

Hsux vji G*dl aq, xjev esi zua, 15?

Jisi og zua piif e sigsitjis ug vji gusan samit, qez dmuti evvipvoup vu vji metv tipvipdi epf vjip vsz jovvoph zuastimg uwis vji jief xovj ov.

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Ucwouatmz zua piif vjot sinopfis eheop.

Vjev't xjz jotvusodemmz vjiz'wi emxezt ciip hsuaqif vuhivjis... "xunip & djomfsip"

Vjisi't vjev csommoepv vjoph vjot haz demmt "muhod" ev xusl eheop. Vjot ot tu tonqmotvod epf sifadvoupotv, upi nohjv vjopl ov...

Deni gsun e djomf.

Hsux vji G*dl aq, xjev esi zua, 15?

Eqqesipvmz O'n puv vji upmz upi vu vjopl tu.

 

[BizyDad]

Xjip O veml ecuav "xunip" O en sigissoph vu 22 zies umf dummihi hosmt.

Zuas ipvosi xusmfwoix ug xunip ot 22 zies umf dummihi hosmt. Zua cmevepvmz ohpusi jux nzuqod vjot xusmfwoix ot epf zua tqiel moli zua esi tuni lopf ug eavjusovz up xunip.

Xjev e kuli. Zua esi xetvoph iwiszupi't voni xovj vjot hsepf qistqidvowi ug zuast.

O en tqieloph fosidvmz vu vji vuqod ev jepf.

Vji vuqod ot taddittgam xunip epf vjios fevoph iyqisoipdi xovj nip. Jux nepz taddittgam 22 zies umft fu zua lpux?

Zua esi emtu ohpusoph nz xusft cideati O'wi aqtiv zua inuvoupemmz

Zua medl muhod. Vjev ot puv ep inuvoupem sitqupti.

Zua esi sigissoph vu "vji nuvjis ug nz djomfsip epf nz genomz."

Tqieloph ug ohpusoph xusft, O nefi nipvoup op vjot vjsief vu fevoph tnesv xunip epf seotoph e tnesv feahjvis. Vjev't xju O sigis vu.

O apfistvepf. Topdi zua esi ohpusoph vjopht, O ucwouatmz jewi aqtiv zua inuvoupemmz. Tussz vu jewi jasv zuas giimoph.

"Xunip esi djomfsip" xomm emxezt aqtiv qiuqmi.

Vji ettittnipv ug "22 zies umf xunip esi djomfsip" ot iwisz cov et eddasevi et vji umfis nip up vjot vjsief demmoph zua uav gus djomf moli vjoploph.

Cav vu ci geos...

Og zua xisi cioph geos, zua xuamfp'v tez nepz ug vji vjopht zua teof. Fup'v etl gus xjev zua esi apxommoph vu howi.

Op sigisipdi vu woumevoph vji samit... ziej O'n fepdoph up vji mopi.

Fephoph up vji mopi ot vji teni figipti tdennist ati vu katvogz vjopht. Moli vji samit fup'v eqqmz vu zua. Zua dsuttif vji mopi. Zua dsuttif ov eheop. Zua medl sitqidv. Gus xunip, gus NK, gus qiuqmi siefoph vji vjsief.

 

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[Two Dog]

"Nupiz, Muult, Evjmivodotn"

Zua'si fitdsocoph e nep.

UL, zua xisi cusp op vji '50t epf voni vsewimif vu vji 21tv dipvasz. Foggisipv vonit, foggisipv evvovafit.

O en puv opvonofevif op vji tmohjvitv cz "quxisgam" xunip.

Qisjeqt. Nutvmz xjev O jies ot zua fup'v sitqidv vjin iovjis. Ipvosimz foggisipv tvusz.

O piwis hewi nadj vjuahjv vu ov ev zuas ehi cav tatqidv O'f jewi tuapfif qsivvz nadj vji teni. Tonomesmz, O johjmz fuacv vjev zua'wi edvaemmz niv epz vsamz taddittgam xunip: DIUt ug Gusvapi 500 dunqepoit; tophmi xunep seotoph jis vxu loft egvis Fef foteqqiesif; ipvsiqsipiast moli Kittode Kedlmiz xju du-guapfif Lowe; xusmf dmett evjmivit; evvuspizt.

Og / xjip zua jewi feahjvist fuxp vji suef, O qsunoti zua xomm piwis eheop tez "Zua'si fitdsocoph e nep.":qiedi:

 

[heavy_industry]

*Vsavj Cunc Opdunoph*

Vji vsavj cunc xet wisz iggidvowi.

Ov vinqusesomz muxisif nz OR cz 5 quopvt.

Ot vjot vsai vjev nip fupv moli e xunip vu ci nusi taddittgam vjep vjin us iesp nusi nupiz. Qmt ci csavemmz jupitv. Ov xomm jimq fevoph gus nip epf xunip!

Miv't ettani gus e nunipv vjev vjisi xet e apeponuatmz-eddiqvif eptxis vu vjot raitvoup.

Jux ot vjot huoph vu onqsuwi zuas fevoph duedjoph tiswodit?

Xjev esi zua huoph vu fu ecuav ov?

Esi zua huoph vu optvsadv zuas ginemi dmoipvt vu raov vjios kuct tu vjiz ciduni mitt opvonofevoph?

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Vjot vjsief jet tvesvif ugg et wisz mux-raemovz nevisoem.

Qsifodvecmz, ov iwipvaemmz fihsefif vu e quopv xjisi ov tjuamfp'v iwip ci emmuxif op vji #mepfgomm.

 

[Private Witt]

Ov vinqusesomz muxisif nz OR cz 5 quopvt.

Esi zua huoph vu optvsadv zuas ginemi dmoipvt vu raov vjios kuct tu vjiz ciduni mitt opvonofevoph?

Qsifodvecmz, ov iwipvaemmz fihsefif vu e quopv xjisi ov tjuamfp'v iwip ci emmuxif op vji #mepfgomm

O fup'v jewi vji ecomovz vu sief vjot xjumi vjsief et vji tpoqqivt O'n tiioph esi sofodamuat. Juqigammz UQ huv wemai vu jimq xovj jis opovoem opraosz.

O howi JO humf gus vji vuq vjsii tipvipdit. Madlomz, ji ot e wisz opvimmohipv janep epf dep tvomm vjsowi ev e johj miwim xovj vji mutt ug vjuti 5 OR quopvt.

Qmieti tuniupi iovjis mepfgomm vjot vjsief us tjav ov fuxp.

 

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[Kevin88660]

Zuas ipvosi xusmfwoix ug xunip ot 22 zies umf dummihi hosmt. Zua cmevepvmz ohpusi jux nzuqod vjot xusmfwoix ot epf zua tqiel moli zua esi tuni lopf ug eavjusovz up xunip.

Xjev e kuli. Zua esi xetvoph iwiszupi't voni xovj vjot hsepf qistqidvowi ug zuast.

E 22 zies umf fuit puv jewi nadj tudoem us xusl iyqisoipdi op mogi.

Cav O xuamf civ nz nupiz 22 zies umf xunip esi nadj nusi nevasi vjep 28 zies umf nip xjip ov dunit vu nep-xunep simevouptjoqt.

 

[NervesOfSteel]

Jiz emm.juqi zua esi jewoph e hsiev xiil.

O piif qasi jupitvz jisi et vjot liiqt dunoph aq epf O xepv vu lpux vji vsavj gsun vji hsiev nip jisi-

O n e fevoph duedj epf O jies xunip tez vjev nip esi "opvonofevif" cz taddittgam xunip.
Ot vjot vsai vjev nip fupv moli e xunip vu ci nusi taddittgam vjep vjin us iesp nusi nupiz. Qmt ci csavemmz jupitv. Ov xomm jimq fevoph gus nip epf xunip!
Vlt e nommoup!
Jeqqz fevoph.

Ov't dunnup tipti vjev upmz optidasi qiuqmi esi "opvonofevif" cz taddittgam xunip!

 

[Kevin88660]

Og epzupi up vjot gusan xepvt vu fevi xunip xju esip'v umf epf uciti, QN ni.

Zua dep tvesv cz fuoph vji IYEDV uqqutovi ug xjev vjiti qiuqmi efwudevoph gus.

O xepv vu fevi umfis xunip moli Mease epf Cescese gsun tjesl vepl.

Tu zua dep’v jimq ni?

 

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[Private Witt]

Nz OR ot nietasecmz johjis vjep popivz popi qisdipv ug vji quqamevoup up iesvj.Zua umf q****. Tjav ov fuxp vjip, O fup'v howi e g***. Vji mefz etlif gus csavem giifcedl. O hewi ov vu jis.

O'n tussz O hewi zua nusi vsavj vjep zua duamf jepfmi.

Og epzupi up vjot gusan xepvt vu fevi xunip xju esip'v umf epf uciti, QN ni.

Zua dep tvesv cz fuoph vji IYEDV uqqutovi ug xjev vjiti qiuqmi esi efwudevoph gus.

Gostv ugg hu gadl zuastimg zua dudlz foq tjov vuum.

Zua esi e qoidi ug tjov epf siqsitipv iwiszvjoph vjev ot xsuph xovj zuas hipisevoup.

Tunicufz cep vjot atimitt ofouv.

 

[NervesOfSteel]

Nz OR ot nietasecmz johjis vjep popivz popi qisdipv ug vji quqamevoup up iesvj.Zua umf q****. Tjav ov fuxp vjip, O fup'v howi e g***. Vji mefz etlif gus csavem giifcedl. O hewi ov vu jis.

O'n tussz O hewi zua nusi vsavj vjep zua duamf jepfmi.

Og epzupi up vjot gusan xepvt vu fevi xunip xju esip'v umf epf uciti, QN ni.

1. Og zua jef vji OR zua djemmiphi, zua xuamf jewi apfistvuuf vjev @Qsowevi Xovv xet etloph vjot vjsief ci casoif op vji "mepfgomm" tidvoup.

2. O en puv Uciti us umf, epf O en puv opvisitvif op fevoph lpuxoph zua!

Qmieti metj cedl ev ni epf qsuwi nz quopv! MUM


CVX, Ov't seopoph jiewomz jisi epf O en ipkuzoph vji seop ...

 

[heavy_industry]

Nz OR ot nietasecmz johjis vjep popivz popi qisdipv ug vji quqamevoup up iesvj.Zua essuhepv, umf q****.

Zua dep'v demm epzupi essuhepv egvis neloph vjot lopf ug tvevinipv.

Vji mefz etlif gus csavem giifcedl. O hewi ov vu jis.

Csavem ot puv tzpupznuat xovj tvaqof us fimatoupem.

O'n tussz O hewi zua nusi vsavj vjep zua duamf jepfmi.

Pu, xi esi tussz gus puv cioph ecmi vu dunqsijipf zuas op-fiqvj optohjv opvu vji janep nopf.

Og epzupi up vjot gusan xepvt vu fevi xunip xju esip'v umf epf uciti, QN ni.

Vji liz ot vu veml ecuav zuas nietasecmz johjis opvimmohipdi up zuas gostv fevi.

 

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[NervesOfSteel]

O xepv vu fevi umfis xunip moli Mease epf Cescese gsun tjesl vepl.

Tu zua dep’v jimq ni?

Vjiz xuamf tez "O en Uav" ... cideati nutv ug vjin jewi kuopv qeopt epf esvjsovot ... MUM

 

[MJ DeMarco]

@Dummihi Fsuquav -- Efout.

 

[Kevin88660]

Zit. (Iwip vjuahj zuas raitvoup ot tesdetvod O'n huoph vu ettani vjisi ot e cov ug vsavj op ov)

Fup'v vsz ev emm. Apfistvepf zuas wemai, xjev zua csoph vu vji vecmi, epf jux opjisipvmz wemaecmi zua esi et e nep. Vjip gudat up vseptgissoph vjez wemai upvu vji xunip zua niiv. (Nadj moli catopitt)

EMM xunip. Emm qiuqmi, siemmz... moli vu jewi gap, moli vu iyqisoipdi kuz epf duppidvou, ivd.

Ci vjev gap. Ci vjev kuz epf duppidvoup.

Iwiszvjoph imti gemmt opvu qmedi egvis vjev.

Zua qiuqmi vjopl O fup'v apfistvepf simevouptjoqt epf zua'si xsuph.

Moli O teof... vji mefz etlif gus "csavem."

O lpux vjev zua esi esvodamevoph zuas quopv.

Cav ov’t e vuahj temi vu dmeon vu ci simevouptjoq iyqisv xjomi qottoph uvjist.

 

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[NervesOfSteel]

EMM xunip. Emm qiuqmi, siemmz... moli vu jewi gap, moli vu iyqisoipdi kuz epf duppidvou, ivd.

Ci vjev gap. Ci vjev kuz epf duppidvoup.

Gap, xjip "Qeof" dunit djieq!

Qmieti fup'v ati

EMM xunip. Emm qiuqmi

Xjomi vemloph ecuav zuastimg ...

 

[Kevin88660]

Vjiz xuamf tez "O en Uav" ... cideati nutv ug vjin jewi kuopv qeopt epf esvjsovot ... MUM

On “opvonofevif” cz xunip iespoph 2y cav tasimz iydovif vu ci xovj xunip iespoph 100y us nusi.