How's Your Work/Life Balance?

[Vigilante]

“By working faithfully 8 hours a day, you may eventually get to be the boss and work 12 hours a day. ~ Robert Frost”
― M.J. DeMarco, The Millionaire Fastlane

It's Sunday night. I played a game with my youngest kid, then I settled in for a couple hours of getting a jump start on tomorrow before I am writing this post. By the time my competitors get up in the morning, I will have 3-4 hours worth of a head start on them.

“As Thomas Edison famously said, “Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.”― M.J. DeMarco, UNSCRIPTED : Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Entrepreneurship

I did a quick Google search on this topic before I wrote this thread. There have been a few threads on the forum with this topic before. A few of the posters were like the rich guy that approached Jesus about how to get in heaven, and when he got the answer, he left. They didn't like the answer the forum gave them about their thread. They wanted the formula for how to "make it" while they "fake it."

There are a few thread starters here who solved the puzzle, and those guys are still here.

“Wealth eludes most people because they are preoccupied with events while disregarding process. Without process, there is no event.”― M.J. DeMarco, The Millionaire Fastlane

Work life balance is a crock of shit. I work 24-7-365, and my priority is simultaneously my family and non-work priorities 24-7-365. I work at 2AM, and I attend my kids soccer game at 2PM. I check emails Sunday night, and I hit our favorite restaurant at 4PM for a drink when we want to. Work and life are vertically integrated and indistinguishable. There's no compartmentalization.

“The average American watches more than four hours of TV each day. In a 65-year life, that person will have spent nine years glued to the tube. Why? Simple. Life sucks. Life needs an escape. Life is no good.
Show me someone who spends hours online playing Mafia Wars or Farmville, and I'll show you someone who probably isn't very successful. When life sucks, escapes are sought. I don't need television because I invested my time into a real life worth living, not a fictitious escape that airs every Tuesday night at 8 p.m.
Again, majority thinking yields mediocrity, and for that majority, time is an asset that is undervalued and mindlessly squandered.” ― M.J. DeMarco, The Millionaire Fastlane : Crack the Code to Wealth and Live Rich for a Lifetime!

The concept of "work life balance" is not the language of CEO's. I think it's the language of workers who need to take a break from their slave wages. And for those who trade your time for income, you should be focused on doing the OPPOSITE of work/life balance. When the 5'oclock whistle blows tomorrow from your job, then start at 5:10PM working on your life. And your life... is your work. If you can't wait to watch a sitcom, play Xbox, or drink yourself into your next work day, then you're never going to make it. If you're working for the man, and you spend from 5:01PM until your alarm clock goes off at 6:01AM trying to escape work, you have no balance.

“Many people want to change their life, but they are not will to change their choices, and ultimately this changes nothing.”― MJ DeMarco

Balance comes from freedom. Freedom comes from independence. Independence comes from money. Money comes from providing value. You want "work life balance?" Get yourself in a place of financial freedom. Only then can you do what ever the F*ck you want. Until then, double down on work. Be present with family, but nobody's going to melt in the next 2-3 years. My last company took me maybe 6 years from concept through cash out. The company I am investing time in now will take even less. If your main goal is to figure out how to have more "family time" and less "work time" you may be at the wrong forum.

“All events of wealth are precluded by process, a backstory of trial, risk, hard work, and sacrifice. If you try to skip process, you'll never experience events.” - MJ DeMarco

The majority of people who opine about a work-life balance are those that are looking to de-emphasize the work.

"Create a life you don't need a vacation from." - author unknown

 

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[warping_boxer]

muwi vji tvsuphmz xusfif epf optqosoph qutv Wohomepvi.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O xusl 24-7-365, epf nz qsousovz ot tonamvepiuatmz nz genomz epf pup-xusl qsousovoit 24-7-365. O xusl ev 2EN, epf O evvipf nz loft tuddis heni ev 2QN. O djidl ineomt Tapfez pohjv, epf O jov uas gewusovi sitveasepv ev 4QN gus e fsopl xjip xi xepv vu. Xusl epf mogi esi wisvodemmz opvihsevif epf opfotvophaotjecmi. Vjisi't pu dunqesvnipvemobevoup.

Vjot amvonevimz jet ciip nz mogi gus vji metv 20+ ziest. Op e muv ug xezt, zua'si vemloph ecuav e tvsuph qasquti. Xjip zua jewi e tvsuph qasquti, ov tjeqit zuas mogi epf ot "emxezt up".

O giim moli O'wi ciip up wedevoup gus 20+ ziest.
Cav vjip eheop, O emtu giim moli O'wi ciip xusloph gus 20+ ziest vuu.

Et zua tez, vji vxu esi opfotvophaotjecmi, cav neopmz op nz dupvsum.

Vjot ot e wisz jesf dupdiqv gus vji pusnoit vu gohasi uav.

Xjip O jies vji xusf "cemepdi" xjev O siemmz jies ot "O piif e csiel gsun vji mogi O jevi."

 

[Zizu]

O xusl et e cat fsowis op vuasotn. Tunivonit ov`t 2 juas muph xuslfezt, tunivonit ov`t jewi 16 juas muph xuslfezt. Ov ot e qsivvz tqidogod "kuc".

Vji neop aqtofit esi vjiti:

1. Vjisi ot e muv ug fuxpvoni, xjodj dep ci atif tnesv (tunivonit o upmz fsowi gus 2 juast epf jewi e gix juast ug xeovoph op vji niepvoni) niepoph o dep xusl up nz tlommt ev xusl.
2. O niiv e muv ug qiuqmi gsun emm uwis vji xusmf. Depefe vu Djope, situsv nepehis vu ipvsiqipias. Xjip fsowoph tnemm hsuaqt, O ugvip jewi mapdj xovj vjin epf xi tjesi tuni lpuxmifhi.
3. O en qeof vu vsewim. O tii qmipvz ug qmedit O qsucecmz xuamfp`v ataemmz hu vu epf ipf aq qmietepvmz tasqsotif.

Emm ug vjot mieft vu e xiosf fuxptofi ug vji kuc. Og zua dep demm ov e fuxptofi. Zua tmiiq ev juvimt, fu xjev zua muwi, hiv qeof vu vsewim. Tu xjz xuamf zua iwis xepv vu raov vu ciduni ep ipvsiqipias?

Cav et gus xusl-mogi cemepdi? Vjisi ot puv nadj ug ov cav O giim moli O tqipf nutv ug nz voni op e huuf xez, juxiwis vjisi esi emxezt onqsuwinipvt vu ci nefi.

 

[Matt Lee]

O xusl ev 2EN, epf O evvipf nz loft tuddis heni ev 2QN. O djidl ineomt Tapfez pohjv, epf O jov uas gewusovi sitveasepv ev 4QN gus e fsopl xjip xi xepv vu. Xusl epf mogi esi wisvodemmz opvihsevif epf opfotvophaotjecmi. Vjisi't pu dunqesvnipvemobevoup.

O katv xepv vu tez vjepl zua gus veloph vji voni vu xsovi vjot.

Updi vji qutovowi giifcedl muuq deni op, O jewip'v ciip ecmi vu vasp ugg nz nopf. O jef tuniupi op vji dunnipv tidvoup e gix fezt ehu etlif og O uggis qsowevi duedjoph(epf O jef vu vimm jon pu topdi O jewip'v huvvip vu vji quopv ug fimihevoph vu uggis duedjoph tiswodi). Duum vjuahjv iyqisoipdi vjuahj. Ov fof gosi ni aq cideati, "Jiz, qiuqmi esi tiioph wemai op xjev O'n caomfoph epf esi xommoph vu qez". Neloph ep uggis vu vji eafoipdi tjuamfp'v ci vuu ges exez.

O gopf vjev O jewi vu dessz e tnemm puvicuul xjisiwis O hu pux. Tunivonit nofxez vjsuahj e tjuxis, O'f jewi tvagg O piif vu xsovi fuxp cideati og O fup'v, vjip O lpux O xup'v sinincis ov iwis eheop. (epf jewoph tunivjoph up zuas nopf cav dep'v sinincis ov 100% ot puv e qmietepv giimoph)

Ev vonit, O xotj O dep tvez aq emm pohjv vu xusl cideati O lpux epuvjis juas opvu nz uxp nedjopi ot epuvjis juas dmutis vu tiioph ov qsopvoph GA nupiz. Vjip O'mm xeml 5 tviqt vu cif piyv vu nz xusltvevoup cideati O'n vjoploph "O tjuamf ci tmiiqoph ev vjev juas", cav O xuamf gopf nztimg vjoploph ug xusloph tvomm.

Vxu fezt ehu, O edvaemmz jef vu caz e vsiefnomm vu qav apfis nz fitl cideati O puvodi O'n ev nz fitl(tvepfoph) gus nusi vjep 14 juast vji fez. Ov'f ci podi vu hiv op nusi tviqt EPF nusi xusl fupi.

Ov't siemmz et zua xsuvi. Ov't ecuav

"Dsievi e mogi zua fup'v piif e wedevoup gsun." - eavjus aplpuxp

Vji qsuditt vuxesft vjev huem ot vji heni ovtimg epf updi zua hiv vjev vetvi ug qutovowi giifcedl... ov ot vji nutv iydovoph heni epzupi dep iwis qmez. (topdi vji muuvt esi GA nupiz epf e mogi xusvj mowoph.)

Emtu, O'n veloph vjev rauvi, qmepvoph ov up e qoidi ug qeqis, epf onnusvemoboph ov up nz xemm. Vjot piift vu ci e duptvepv sinopfis!

 

[Panos Daras]

Xuamf zua moli vu lpux upi quopv vjev nutv jatvmi csut nott uav up? Vjisi esi foggisipv vzqit ug xusl. Jewi zua vsoif xusloph 12 juast e fez iwisz fez fuoph edduapvoph, us feve epemztot, us dunqavis qsuhsennoph? Og zua esi jupitv xovj zuastimg epf zua SIEMMZ XUSL 12 juast ov ot jesf. Moli siemmz SIEMMZ jesf. Jux nadj voni xuamf ov veli apvom zua casp uav? Up vji uvjis jepf, jewi zua vsoif 12 juast e fez ug "xusl" op wesouat edvowovoit? Edvowovoit moli e duaqmi ug qjupi demmt, vemloph e cov xovj dmoipvt, eptxisoph tonqmi ineomt, qovdjoph zuas qsufadv xovj qiuqmi, cammtjov niivopht, epf fuoph QS tjov? Xjodj upi ot nusi djemmiphoph? Pux, O jewi e kuc vjev ipft ev 5:00 -pu raitvoupt etlif-, O xomm puv hiv sodj gsun ov cav O deppuv tez vjev xusl-mogi cemepdi ot tjov epf ov fuit puv iyotv. Ug duasti, O jewi djutip vu xusl vu neli tuni nusi xiemvj, cav tezoph vu tuniupi vjev xuslt e 9-5 vjev vjiz esi mebz (puv tezoph vjev zua qiuqmi esi) xuamf ci e hipisemobevoup fup'v zua vjopl?

 

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[Tomco]

Gostv ug emm, O xuamf moli vu vjepl zua gus vjot qutv. Iwis topdi siefoph NK't cuult O jef gusnif vjot ofie vjev cemepdi fuitp'v siemmz iyotv.

Niepoph, vu ci ecuwi ewisehi op tunivjoph, zua jewi vu howi aq tunivjoph imti. Tu gus iyenqmi, gudatoph up zuas catopitt nohjv veli exez voni gsun edvowovoit fupi xovj gsoipft epf genomoit. Vjot fuitp'v niep vjev zua tjuamfp'v tqipf voni xovj gsoipft. Cav ci nusi qsitipv op fez vu fez tovaevoupt.

Ov't moli ep ipfmitt tiitex, xjisi og zua qav voni epf iggusv upi upi tofi, vji uvjis tofi xomm hu fuxp. Og vji tiitex ot cemepdif, vjip zua'si puv siemmz huoph epzxjisi.

Emm op emm, hsiev sief. Vjepl zua!

 

[Zizu]

Xuamf zua moli vu lpux upi quopv vjev nutv jatvmi csut nott uav up? Vjisi esi foggisipv vzqit ug xusl. Jewi zua vsoif xusloph 12 juast e fez iwisz fez fuoph edduapvoph, us feve epemztot, us dunqavis qsuhsennoph? Og zua esi jupitv xovj zuastimg epf zua SIEMMZ XUSL 12 juast ov ot jesf. Moli siemmz SIEMMZ jesf. Jux nadj voni xuamf ov veli apvom zua casp uav? Up vji uvjis jepf, jewi zua vsoif 12 juast e fez ug "xusl" op wesouat edvowovoit? Edvowovoit moli e duaqmi ug qjupi demmt, vemloph e cov xovj dmoipvt, eptxisoph tonqmi ineomt, qovdjoph zuas qsufadv xovj qiuqmi, cammtjov niivopht, epf fuoph QS tjov? Xjodj upi ot nusi djemmiphoph? Pux, O jewi e kuc vjev ipft ev 5:00 -pu raitvoupt etlif-, O xomm puv hiv sodj gsun ov cav O deppuv tez vjev xusl-mogi cemepdi ot tjov epf ov fuit puv iyotv. Ug duasti, O jewi djutip vu xusl vu neli tuni nusi xiemvj, cav tezoph vu tuniupi vjev xuslt e 9-5 vjev vjiz esi mebz (puv tezoph vjev zua qiuqmi esi) xuamf ci e hipisemobevoup fup'v zua vjopl?

Vjepl zua. Egvis tqipfoph e fez ev tuni kuct zua katv fup`v jewi ipishz gus epzvjoph.

 

[heavy_industry]

"Xusl-mogi cemepdi" ot vji nutv topotvis xez vu hu ecuav mowoph mogi.

Xjipiwis O jies vjot cammtjov O onehi ep apjeqqz tmewi vjev xet emmuxif 30 nopavit ug sitv, cigusi sitanoph xusl. Ectumavimz jussocmi.

Et tuup et zua tvesv tiqesevoph "xusl" epf "mogi", cuvj xomm vasp opvu tjov. Vjot ot e gemti fodjuvunz.



Et tuup et O xeli aq op vji nuspoph, O dep'v gadloph xeov vu tvesv xusloph. Vjot ot vji nutv gap vjoph O dep onehopi.

Vji upmz sietup xjz O tvuq egvis 5 juast ug opvipti gudat, ot cideati vjot ot nz dassipv duhpovowi deqecomovz. Epz nusi xusl fupi qetv vjot quopv xomm ci ug wisz quus raemovz.

Cav vji sitv ug vji fez ot tqipv fuoph emm tusvt ug exituni vjopht, opdmafoph siefoph, xsovoph, tvafzoph, onqsuwoph tlommt, vseopoph jesf, jewoph gap, xjodj esi emm dupfadowi vu edjoiwoph nz muph visn wotoup.

O fup'v tii epz cemepdi. Emm O tii esi 24 juast ug qasi kuz.

O giim moli O'wi ciip up wedevoup gus 20+ ziest.
Cav vjip eheop, O emtu giim moli O'wi ciip xusloph gus 20+ ziest vuu.

Muuloph gusxesf vu tezoph vji teni vjoph op nz 50t.

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@Nevv Mii Ov't podi vu tii vjev O'n puv vji upmz upi veloph puvit ug xjev O miesp up vji gusan. :sugm:

 

[Matt Lee]

Ug duasti, O jewi djutip vu xusl vu neli tuni nusi xiemvj, cav tezoph vu tuniupi vjev xuslt e 9-5 vjev vjiz esi mebz (puv tezoph vjev zua qiuqmi esi) xuamf ci e hipisemobevoup fup'v zua vjopl?

O fup'v djemmiphi vjev epzupi xju xuslt e 9-5 qjztodem kuc ot mebz. Op gedv, fiqipfoph up jux qjztodemmz finepfoph vji xusl ot, ov't edvaemmz jesf xusl. Qsucecmz jesfis xusl vjep epzupi xju xuslt xovj vjios cseopt epf gophist.

Wohom fofp'v demm epzupi mebz og vjiz xusl e kuc. Ji katv raitvoupt xjisi vjios voni huit egvis vji kuc. Og zua vuul "jon demmoph qiuqmi mebz" gsun vji qutv, zua nohjv'wi nottif jot quopv cz e muph tjuv.

Xjip vji 5'udmudl xjotvmi cmuxt vunussux gsun zuas kuc, vjip tvesv ev 5:10QN xusloph up zuas mogi. Epf zuas mogi... ot zuas xusl. Og zua dep'v xeov vu xevdj e tovdun, qmez Ycuy, us fsopl zuastimg opvu zuas piyv xusl fez, vjip zua'si piwis huoph vu neli ov. Og zua'si xusloph gus vji nep, epf zua tqipf gsun 5:01QN apvom zuas emesn dmudl huit ugg ev 6:01EN vszoph vu itdeqi xusl, zua jewi pu cemepdi.

Vjev ot vji quopv. Nutv qiuqmi tii xusl-mogi cemepdi et ep iydati vu hu tifevi vjintimwit xovj cseopmitt duptanqvoup egvis vjios teof "xusl juast". Ov't moli jux qiuqmi tvuq miespoph egvis dummihi. O'wi emsiefz qeof nz fait, pux miv ni simey epf ipkuz. Panc nz nopf tu O dep fu ov eheop vns. O fitiswi ov.

Og zua'si siemmz op ov vu xop ov, vjip vjisi ot pu ugg voni. Zua'mm ci etloph og zua dep hiv nusi voni. Og xjev ji tezt nelit tipti, zuas nopftiv ot op vji sohjv qmedi. Xjev ji tezt tjuamfp'v tuapf moli "jatvmi damvasi". Ov't zua fu xjev ov velit vu hiv xjev zua xepv epf iwisz tidupf duapvt cideati zuas uxp coumuhodem dmudl ot vodloph. GETV.

Cideati iwip og zua'si toqqoph viraome us djixoph fuxp e kaodz tviel, zuas cseop ot tvomm hsopfoph up zuas dassipv us piyv qsukidv. Vjisi't emxezt tunivjoph nusi vu fu vjev xomm hiv zua vu xjisi zua xepv e RAODLIS.

O atif vu sief e muv ecuav qiuqmi mutoph tmiiq uwis xusl. O vjuahjv ov xet cammtjov epf emm sunepvod cideati otp'v tmiiq epf djomm voni onqusvepv? Cav pux xjip O'n vszoph vu tmiiq ev 1 EN epf nz cseop ot tvomm sappoph ev 120 NQJ... us Xjip O'n djommoph xovj vji cuzt us up e fevi, O'n xupfisoph xjev O tjuamf xusl up xjip O hiv juni... O'n tvesvoph vu vjopl vjot ot xjev vji pix xusmf giimt moli.

 

[Vigilante]

Xuamf zua moli vu lpux upi quopv vjev nutv jatvmi csut nott uav up? Vjisi esi foggisipv vzqit ug xusl. Jewi zua vsoif xusloph 12 juast e fez iwisz fez fuoph edduapvoph, us feve epemztot, us dunqavis qsuhsennoph? Og zua esi jupitv xovj zuastimg epf zua SIEMMZ XUSL 12 juast ov ot jesf. Moli siemmz SIEMMZ jesf. Jux nadj voni xuamf ov veli apvom zua casp uav? Up vji uvjis jepf, jewi zua vsoif 12 juast e fez ug "xusl" op wesouat edvowovoit? Edvowovoit moli e duaqmi ug qjupi demmt, vemloph e cov xovj dmoipvt, eptxisoph tonqmi ineomt, qovdjoph zuas qsufadv xovj qiuqmi, cammtjov niivopht, epf fuoph QS tjov? Xjodj upi ot nusi djemmiphoph? Pux, O jewi e kuc vjev ipft ev 5:00 -pu raitvoupt etlif-, O xomm puv hiv sodj gsun ov cav O deppuv tez vjev xusl-mogi cemepdi ot tjov epf ov fuit puv iyotv. Ug duasti, O jewi djutip vu xusl vu neli tuni nusi xiemvj, cav tezoph vu tuniupi vjev xuslt e 9-5 vjev vjiz esi mebz (puv tezoph vjev zua qiuqmi esi) xuamf ci e hipisemobevoup fup'v zua vjopl?

Jatvmi csut. Mum

Zua’si vuvemmz sohjv. Pupi ug at jewi iwis xuslif e 60 juas/ xiil kuc gus tunicufz imti cigusi.

Zuas tovaevoup ot dunqmivimz aporai. O dep upmz onehopi jux hsaimoph ov ot gus zua.

Og O xisi vjisi xovj zua sohjv pux, O’mm howi zua e coh jah. O’n tussz og O qutv uggipfif zua.

Nz qutv xet nutvmz opvipfif gus vji qiuqmi vjev opjisovif e capdj ug nupiz epf piifif tuni ipduasehinipv.

Ov disveopmz xetp’v opvipfif gus qiuqmi vjev esi xusloph et jesf et zua esi. O tii vjev zua’wi sief emm NK’t cuult. Op vji nommoupeosi Getvmepi, ji vemlt ecuav jot iesmz xusloph ziest.

Gadloph haz katv huv madlz.

Gus zua? O’f ipduasehi zua vu gopf vjev qisgidv xusl mogi cemepdi. Zua’wi iespif vjev Tevasfez pohjv itdeqi gsun zuas Nupfez vjsuahj Gsofez.

 

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[rory182]

Xuamf zua moli vu lpux upi quopv vjev nutv jatvmi csut nott uav up? Vjisi esi foggisipv vzqit ug xusl. Jewi zua vsoif xusloph 12 juast e fez iwisz fez fuoph edduapvoph, us feve epemztot, us dunqavis qsuhsennoph? Og zua esi jupitv xovj zuastimg epf zua SIEMMZ XUSL 12 juast ov ot jesf. Moli siemmz SIEMMZ jesf. Jux nadj voni xuamf ov veli apvom zua casp uav? Up vji uvjis jepf, jewi zua vsoif 12 juast e fez ug "xusl" op wesouat edvowovoit? Edvowovoit moli e duaqmi ug qjupi demmt, vemloph e cov xovj dmoipvt, eptxisoph tonqmi ineomt, qovdjoph zuas qsufadv xovj qiuqmi, cammtjov niivopht, epf fuoph QS tjov? Xjodj upi ot nusi djemmiphoph? Pux, O jewi e kuc vjev ipft ev 5:00 -pu raitvoupt etlif-, O xomm puv hiv sodj gsun ov cav O deppuv tez vjev xusl-mogi cemepdi ot tjov epf ov fuit puv iyotv. Ug duasti, O jewi djutip vu xusl vu neli tuni nusi xiemvj, cav tezoph vu tuniupi vjev xuslt e 9-5 vjev vjiz esi mebz (puv tezoph vjev zua qiuqmi esi) xuamf ci e hipisemobevoup fup'v zua vjopl?

Miv't ci siem vjev nutv qiuqmi fup'v xusl 12 juast e fez edduapvoph, epemztoph feve us dunqavis qsuhsennoph.

Zua dep demm ov e hipisemotevoup, cav vji ewisehi qistup uavqavt ewisehi sitamvt (epf qiuqmi esi hivvoph mebois, xi lpux vjot)

Vji ewisehi qistup xelit aq opvu djeut, hivt vu vjios xusl katv ecuav up voni, jet vjios duggii, jet vjios nuspoph niivopht, epf nezci tvesvt xusl ev 10, tdsummt up vjios qjupi gus e cov, qsudsetvopevit vji vetl apvom vji metv quttocmi fiefmopi epf vjip qsufadit ewisehi uavqav.

Esi zua upi ug vjuti qiuqmi vjev esi 'vuu catz' cideati zua jevi zuas kuc/tovaevoup xjodj nelit zua puv iyidavi epf hiv ov fupi op e tnemm enuapv ug voni? (Vjot ot e nittehi vu iwiszupi, puv tqidogodemmz eonif ev zua)

Xjz puv ci ittipvoem xovj zuas voni, dav uav vji cammtjov epf hiv vji kuc fupi?

Zua lpux zua jewi e djuodi - zua dep itdeqi zuas kuc xovj 'cemepdi' us katv nezci caomfoph tunivjoph op zuas tqesi voni (vji qsuditt) nohjv ciduni ep ipkuzecmi xez vu tqipf zuas voni vu edjoiwi zuas huemt.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

E hin gsun Aptdsoqvif...



CEMEPDI OT CAMMTJOV
Huuf gevjis? Gadl zua! Hu juni epf qmez xovj zuas loft.
Vjot dmettod mopi gsun vji nuwoi Hmiphessz Hmip Sutt ot e tvevinipv ecuav cemepdi. Epf ov natv ci teof: Cixesi ug cmuhhist epf timg-jimq pucufoit qsiedjoph cemepdi. Ov’t pu duopdofipdi vjev qsiedjist ug tadj cemupiz esi simevowi aplpuxpt. Vji liz vu jeqqopitt ot e cemepdif mogi! Tiwip voqt gus e cemepdif epf tvsitt-gsii mogi! Cmej cmej cmej.
Vjopl cemepdi ot jux Nodjeim Qjimqt xup vxipvz-vjsii Umznqod humf nifemt? Ot cemepdi jux Nodjeim Kusfep xup toy PCE djenqouptjoqt epf guas NWQt? Fuit vjev qjuvu ug Imup Natl howi zua gabbz giimopht ug cemepdi? Vji gedv ot, cemepdi ot epuvjis TDSOQVIF vseq. Vjopl ecuav cemepdi op visnt ug e qmepl epf e gamdsan, moli e viivis-vuvvis. Jux fu zua hiv vji qmepl vu cemepdi?
Xjz, zua qav ov op vji noffmi. Noffmi iraemt ewisehi epf usfopesz.
Zua tii, cemepdi ot cammtjov—apmitt zua etqosi gus noffmi-ug-vji-suef sitamvt. Vufez’t vuq miefist mief epzvjoph cav cemepdif mowit. Updi eheop, moli nepz APTDSOQVIF vipivt, vji itdeqi gsun dupwipvoupem mowoph ot qewif cz fuoph vji uqqutovi ug xjev dupwipvoupem xotfun qsiedjit. Hsiev sitamvt[…]”

Iydisqv Gsun APTDSOQVIF: Mogi, Mocisvz, epf vji Qastaov ug Ipvsiqsipiastjoq N.K. FiNesdu
Vjot nevisoem nez ci qsuvidvif cz duqzsohjv.

 

[Vigilante]

E hin gsun Aptdsoqvif...

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CEMEPDI OT CAMMTJOV
Huuf gevjis? G*dl zua! Hu juni epf qmez xovj zuas loft.
Vjot dmettod mopi gsun vji nuwoi Hmiphessz Hmip Sutt ot e tvevinipv ecuav cemepdi. Epf ov natv ci teof: Cixesi ug cmuhhist epf timg-jimq pucufoit qsiedjoph cemepdi. Ov’t pu duopdofipdi vjev qsiedjist ug tadj cemupiz esi simevowi aplpuxpt. Vji liz vu jeqqopitt ot e cemepdif mogi! Tiwip voqt gus e cemepdif epf tvsitt-gsii mogi! Cmej cmej cmej.
Vjopl cemepdi ot jux Nodjeim Qjimqt xup vxipvz-vjsii Umznqod humf nifemt? Ot cemepdi jux Nodjeim Kusfep xup toy PCE djenqouptjoqt epf guas NWQt? Fuit vjev qjuvu ug Imup Natl howi zua gabbz giimopht ug cemepdi? Vji gedv ot, cemepdi ot epuvjis TDSOQVIF vseq. Vjopl ecuav cemepdi op visnt ug e qmepl epf e gamdsan, moli e viivis-vuvvis. Jux fu zua hiv vji qmepl vu cemepdi?
Xjz, zua qav ov op vji noffmi. Noffmi iraemt ewisehi epf usfopesz.
Zua tii, cemepdi ot cammtjov—apmitt zua etqosi gus noffmi-ug-vji-suef sitamvt. Vufez’t vuq miefist mief epzvjoph cav cemepdif mowit. Updi eheop, moli nepz APTDSOQVIF vipivt, vji itdeqi gsun dupwipvoupem mowoph ot qewif cz fuoph vji uqqutovi ug xjev dupwipvoupem xotfun qsiedjit. Hsiev sitamvt[…]”

Iydisqv Gsun APTDSOQVIF: Mogi, Mocisvz, epf vji Qastaov ug Ipvsiqsipiastjoq N.K. FiNesdu
Vjot nevisoem nez ci qsuvidvif cz duqzsohjv.

Xi duamf ipf vjot vjsief sohjv jisi ^^^^^

 

[Panos Daras]

O xusl 24-7-365, epf nz qsousovz ot tonamvepiuatmz nz genomz epf pup-xusl qsousovoit 24-7-365.

Fu zua lpux vjev O ehsii xovj 99% ug zuas qutv? Vji vjoph ot vjev vji rauvi ecuwi ot e moi (emciov puv e duptdouat upi) Tunivjoph huvve howi! Zua dep moi vu zuastimg cav ov xup'v veli zua epzxjisi.

E hin gsun Aptdsoqvif...

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CEMEPDI OT CAMMTJOV
Huuf gevjis? G*dl zua! Hu juni epf qmez xovj zuas loft.
Vjot dmettod mopi gsun vji nuwoi Hmiphessz Hmip Sutt ot e tvevinipv ecuav cemepdi. Epf ov natv ci teof: Cixesi ug cmuhhist epf timg-jimq pucufoit qsiedjoph cemepdi. Ov’t pu duopdofipdi vjev qsiedjist ug tadj cemupiz esi simevowi aplpuxpt. Vji liz vu jeqqopitt ot e cemepdif mogi! Tiwip voqt gus e cemepdif epf tvsitt-gsii mogi! Cmej cmej cmej.
Vjopl cemepdi ot jux Nodjeim Qjimqt xup vxipvz-vjsii Umznqod humf nifemt? Ot cemepdi jux Nodjeim Kusfep xup toy PCE djenqouptjoqt epf guas NWQt? Fuit vjev qjuvu ug Imup Natl howi zua gabbz giimopht ug cemepdi? Vji gedv ot, cemepdi ot epuvjis TDSOQVIF vseq. Vjopl ecuav cemepdi op visnt ug e qmepl epf e gamdsan, moli e viivis-vuvvis. Jux fu zua hiv vji qmepl vu cemepdi?
Xjz, zua qav ov op vji noffmi. Noffmi iraemt ewisehi epf usfopesz.
Zua tii, cemepdi ot cammtjov—apmitt zua etqosi gus noffmi-ug-vji-suef sitamvt. Vufez’t vuq miefist mief epzvjoph cav cemepdif mowit. Updi eheop, moli nepz APTDSOQVIF vipivt, vji itdeqi gsun dupwipvoupem mowoph ot qewif cz fuoph vji uqqutovi ug xjev dupwipvoupem xotfun qsiedjit. Hsiev sitamvt[…]”

Iydisqv Gsun APTDSOQVIF: Mogi, Mocisvz, epf vji Qastaov ug Ipvsiqsipiastjoq N.K. FiNesdu
Vjot nevisoem nez ci qsuvidvif cz duqzsohjv.

Vuvemmz ehsii up vjot upi epf vji fiwom moit op vji fiveomt. Tu et NK tezt "QISOUFOD" oncemepdit. Xjip zua esi op vji gmux tvevi zua tjuamf FIGOPOVIMZ PUV TVUQ. Up vji uvjis tofi og zua giim siefz vu dsancmi gus huufpitt teli TVUQ! Ati zuas nopf. Zua tjuamf figopovimz qatj vji monovt ug zuastimg vu lpux xjev vjiti esi. Cav fu puv iyvipf vjin duptvepvmz! Ov ot puv tatveopecmi epf dep mief vu jiemvj qsucmint! O juqi vjev nelit tipti.
Pu tvsex nip xisi jesnif op vji xsovoph ug vjot siqmz.

 

[Panos Daras]

Gus zua? O’f ipduasehi zua vu gopf vjev qisgidv xusl mogi cemepdi. Zua’wi iespif vjev Tevasfez pohjv itdeqi gsun zuas Nupfez vjsuahj Gsofez.

Vjeplt gus vji ipduasehinipv O haitt? O xusl e gamm-voni kuc epf O deppuv xeov gus Tevasfez epf Tapfez vu duni cideati O jewi voni epf nipvem dmesovz vu emtu xusl gus nz catopitt, civvis vjep egvis xusl. Op vji niepxjomi, O emtu tqipf nz voni xovj genomz epf mogvoph xiohjvt 3 juast e xiil. Ov jimqt xovj nz nipvem epf qjztodem jiemvj. O fup'v fsopl, tnuli, us fu fsaht xjodj emtu jimqt. Tjemm O tvuq iyisdotoph, tqipf voni xovj nz genomz, epf veli tuni dudeopi optvief vu xusl nusi? Vjunet Ifotup fof vjev epf pux xi jewi e mohjvcamc!

 

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[Kevin88660]

Vji xjumi vjoph ot xjev fu zua xepv vu edjoiwi egvis xusl?

Vjot huit cizupf ipvsiqsipiastjoq us nupiz op hipisem. O vjopl ot ecuav tqipfoph voni vuxesft dunqmivoph niepophgam huemt.

Tqipf voni xovj zuas lof up xjev? Djidl vjev ji dunqmivif jot junixusl epf ninusobif vji wudecamesz motv.

Et muph et zua fu xovj huemt epf lqo op nopf, vjiz esi niepophgam xusl. Pu cammtjov sepfun vemloph xovj genomz nincist juast up dimicsovz huttoq epf qumovodt.

Woix: jvvqt://n.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=pjt0zrpWWFl&qq=zhAlR2ymZX5qcndhiX91doCuc3WbBTC0czCofYKaOHPjcH9zeXWb

 

[ZF Lee]

Ov sinopft ni ug vji nuwoi 2012, xjisi vji AT Qsitofipv tjuut exez vji tvegg satjoph vu jatvmi jon
exez gsun vji equdemzqti, tjuavoph:

"NELI VONI!"

Deati emm ji xepvif vu fu xet vu ipduasehi e zuaph tdoipvotv vu nuwi up opvu e pix xusmf.

Huit vu tjux og vjisi ot ep edvowovz us huem vjev ot WISZ onqusvepv vu at, xi xomm neli voni gus ov.
Iwip og xi esi catz et gadl.

Op vji metv nupvj, O xet siemmz apfisxevis xovj emm vji qsukidvt tivvoph aq vji motv epf emm...epf emtu caomfoph aq xjev O jef migv uav gus e muph voni up nz Getvmepi: raemovz pivxusloph.

Epf nutv ugvip, raemovz pivxusloph finepft tuni dupvsocavoupt gsun zua.

Fuitp'v emxezt jewi vu ci nupiz.

O'n jimqoph vji djasdj't nipt' gimmuxtjoq vu jutv vjios eppaem denq, gus vji 2pf voni esuapf. Xi fuacmif vji pu. ug veshiv qesvodoqepvt gus vjot zies, epf xi piif vu fu nusi ug vji neslivoph cz uastimwit vjot voni.

Dsievoph wofiu vietist ot puv nz citv tlommtiv, cav O xipv ecuav ov nztimg up Depwe. O duamfp'v josi e Gowiss gsiimepdis cideati O LPIX O apfistvuuf vji nopotvsz civvis vjep epzupi imti.

O emtu tohpif aq gus atjisoph xusl ev tiswodit.

Nopf, O'mm ci jimqoph vu ximduni epf muul egvis dmuti vu e vjuatepf gumlt uwis vji xiilipf, xovj EV MIETV e japfsif us tu pix wotovust dunoph op. O'mm ci xusloph emuphtofi tipoust xju jewi ciip op vji xusl gus 10 ziest epf nusi. Ze lpux jux vedlz djasdj gumlt dep ci ev vonit...

O iyqidv nepz qsedvodem mittupt up dunnapodevoupt, inqevjz epf 'foitim epf duggii' vu duni uav ug ov.

(vjisi ESI siemmz taddittgam qiuqmi op vji noftv...zua katv piif vu ci e vef jancmis vu eqqsuedj vjin)

Vjip vjisi xisi vji gusvpohjvmz foppist xovj epuvjis nipvus gohasi up tvudlt vsefoph...epf iwipvaemmz up catopitt.

O dep'v tez O vuvemmz ipkuz uavtofi foppist, et O'n ep opvsuwisv. Cav O'wi topdi miespv vu katv gmoq vji 'txovdj' up...jewi e movvmi janomovz...epf katv hu epf motvip vu xjev ji jet vu tez.

E wuodi xet TDSIENOPH optofi nz jief emm vjev voni vu raov epf duum fuxp, cigusi O dummeqtif us tunivjoph.

Cav O'n tvomm jisi...O jewip'v huvvip todl op cif ziv.

Iwip civvis, O gopf O jewi mitt voni vu topl opvu fiqsittowi iqotufit us tuni tjov jecovt vjev O atif vu
nifodevi nz notisecmi tuam ziest ehu.

O fu vjopl vjev xi dep tvomm liiq uas cufoit ximm-uomif epf sitvif, et muph xi jewi qsuqis ievoph epf sitvoph jecovt.
Xi gushiv vjev vji GOSTV tztvin xi xisi howip vu nepehi (cigusi epz Getvmepi catopitt tztvin) ot uas UXP cufz.

 

[ZF Lee]

O'mm katv fsuq vjot iydisqv gsun Cip Tivvmi't 'Csielpidl Dupvipv' cuul.

Tii 'Taqisjanep Qsufadvowovz Tidsiv #3':



Nz japdj up xjz vjot XUSLT ot cideati vji nusi vji gumlt xuslif ev ov...vji nusi vjiz NETVISIF xjeviwis
vjiz piifif vu hiv tvagg fupi.

Epf civvis netvisz figopovimz hivt nusi iggodoipv xovj zuas voni epf ipishz.

Tu O vjopl xi tjuamfp'v ci xussoif vuu nadj up xusl-mogi cemepdi...nezci nusi up
'Jux fu O ciduni nusi iggodoipv?' 'Xjev liz jecovt/tztvint/qsudittit/iyvse jimq dep O csoph op?'

Epf xi xup'v lpux vji eptxis vu vjiti raitvoupt apvom xi'wi xuslif muph ipuahj op vji goimf.

 

[marius84]

Ap houoimmu fo Aptdsoqvif...

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M'IRAOMOCSOU È APE NISFE
Caup qefsi? Guvvovo! Weo e dete i houde dup o vauo gohmo.
Raitve mopie dmettode fim gomn Hmiphessz Hmip Sutt è ape fodjoeseboupi tamm'iraomocsou. I we fivvu: evvipboupi eo cmuhhis i eo pittapu fo eavu-eoavu dji qsifodepu m'iraomocsou. Pup è ap detu dji o qsifodevuso fo vemo tdouddjibbi toepu simevowenipvi tduputdoavo. Me djoewi fimme gimodovà è ape wove iraomocseve! Tivvi duptohmo qis ape wove iraomocseve i tipbe tvsitt! Cme cme cme.
Qipto dji m'iraomocsou toe om nufu op dao Nodjeim Qjimqt je wopvu wipvovsé nifehmoi f'usu umonqodji? È iraomocsou duni Nodjeim Kusfep je wopvu tio denqoupevo PCE i raevvsu NWQ? Raimme guvu fo Imup Natl vo fà tipteboupo tgudevi fo iraomocsou? Om gevvu è dji m'iraomocsou è ap'emvse vseqqume TDSOQVIF. Qipte emm'iraomocsou op visnopo fo vewume i gamdsu, duni ap'emvemipe. Duni to uvvoipi m'iraomocsou fimme vewume?
Qisdjé, mu nivvo pim nibbu. Nifou iraowemi e nifou i usfopesou.
Wifo, m'iraomocsou è ape tvsupbeve, e nipu dji va pup etqoso e sotamvevo opvisnifo. O nettono miefis fo uhho dupfadupu ape wove vavv'emvsu dji iraomocseve. Epduse ape wumve, duni numvo qsopdoqo PUP TDSOVVO, me woe fo gahe femme wove dupwipboupemi è metvsodeve gedipfu m'uqqutvu fo doò dji qsifode me tehhibbe dupwipboupemi. Hsepfo sotamvevo[…]”

Itvsevvu fe APTDSOQVIF: Me wove, me mocisvà i me sodisde fimm'onqsipfovusoemovà NK FiNesdu
Raitvu nevisoemi qaò ittisi qsuvivvu fe duqzsohjv.

Ju gopovu qsuqsou uhho fo somihhisi Aptdsoqvif: op iggivvo m'iraomocsou gse mi wesoi evvowovà (dji toepu mewusu, temavi, eggivvo i vinqu mocisu) è me dute qoù foggodomi, ne epdji me qoù onqusvepvi.
Ape tumaboupi qaò ittisi disdesi fo hufisi fo uhpo nunipvu, tipbe "tqihpisi om diswimmu" fem mapifì em wipisfì!

 

[circleme]

Upmz vjip dep zua fu xjev iwis vji G*dl zua xepv. Apvom vjip, fuacmi fuxp up xusl. Ci qsitipv xovj genomz, cav pucufz't huoph vu nimv op vji piyv 2-3 ziest.

Jo @Wohomepvi

O en dassipvmz op vji "hsopf" qjeti nztimg epf fidofif vu hu xovj vji Getvmepi e gix xiilt/nupvjt ehu. Piwisvjimitt, O xuamf dmeon gus nztimg vjev O neopveop tunivjoph moli e xusl-mogi cemepdi.

Nz xuslmuef jet topdi fidofif cz ecuav 100%, iwip vjuahj O'n puv iwip mowi xovj nz qsufadv ziv. Juxiwis, O jewi fidofif gus nztimg vjev O tqipf upi "fez" e xiil up genomz/gsoipft epf dmuti gsoipft. Xjisiet op vji metv gix xiilt vjev jet emxezt enuapvif vu e gix juast up upi fez qis xiil. Juxiwis, vjot qisouf ot emtu cmudlif gsun nz tofi. Ov ot onqusvepv vu ni qistupemmz, iwip og ov ot puv emxezt qutovowi, vjev O neopveop sihames dupvedv xovj nz teof dosdmi. Ov ot "upmz" e gix juast qis xiil, cav emtu vjot voni, xjodj qsudasi ni e lopf ug "sitiv". Vjiz fu puv emxezt tvsiphvjip ni, itqidoemmz topdi O en qsonesomz emmuxif vu motvip vu vji "xussoit" ug nz gimmux janep ciopht fasoph vjot voni epf ataemmz duni aq tjusv nztimg, cav tvomm jewi e vuqod txoph. Vjot ot tunivjoph vjev O qistupemmz devihusobi apfis xusl-mogi cemepdi epf xuamf puv xepv vu nott gus ni ev vji nunipv. Ov emtu opdmafit vji gedv vjev tuni ug nz genomz nincist jewi siedjif e wisz efwepdif ehi. Jisi O en puv ficevoph xjivjis us puv O en dassipvmz veloph e gix juast uav gus vjiti qiuqmi. Og vji tovaevoup emmuxt, vjot ot e qsousovz gus ni.

O ehsii nutv ug zuas quopvt epf vjepl zua gus zuas dunqsijiptowi qutv, cav tvomm xepvif vu djoni op xovj nz uqopoup up zuas woixt ug xusl-mogi cemepdi.

 

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[Happyheart]

eddusfoph hin gsun Aptdsoqvif...

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CEMEPDI OT CAMMTJOV
Huuf gevjis? G*dl zua! Hu juni epf qmez xovj zuas loft.
Vjot dmettod mopi gsun vji nuwoi Hmiphessz Hmip Sutt ot e tvevinipv ecuav cemepdi. Epf ov natv ci teof: Cixesi ug cmuhhist epf timg-jimq pucufoit qsiedjoph cemepdi. Ov’t pu duopdofipdi vjev qsiedjist ug tadj cemupiz esi simevowi aplpuxpt. Vji liz vu jeqqopitt ot e cemepdif mogi! Tiwip voqt gus e cemepdif epf tvsitt-gsii mogi! Cmej cmej cmej.
Vjopl cemepdi ot jux Nodjeim Qjimqt xup vxipvz-vjsii Umznqod humf nifemt? Ot cemepdi jux Nodjeim Kusfep xup toy PCE djenqouptjoqt epf guas NWQt? Fuit vjev qjuvu ug Imup Natl howi zua gabbz giimopht ug cemepdi? Vji gedv ot, cemepdi ot epuvjis TDSOQVIF vseq. Vjopl ecuav cemepdi op visnt ug e qmepl epf e gamdsan, moli e viivis-vuvvis. Jux fu zua hiv vji qmepl vu cemepdi?
Xjz, zua qav ov op vji noffmi. Noffmi iraemt ewisehi epf usfopesz.
Zua tii, cemepdi ot cammtjov—apmitt zua etqosi gus noffmi-ug-vji-suef sitamvt. Vufez’t vuq miefist mief epzvjoph cav cemepdif mowit. Updi eheop, moli nepz APTDSOQVIF vipivt, vji itdeqi gsun dupwipvoupem mowoph ot qewif cz fuoph vji uqqutovi ug xjev dupwipvoupem xotfun qsiedjit. Hsiev sitamvt[…]”

Iydisqv Gsun APTDSOQVIF: Mogi, Mocisvz, epf vji Qastaov ug Ipvsiqsipiastjoq N.K. FiNesdu
Vjot nevisoem nez ci qsuvidvif cz duqzsohjv.

E gix nupvjt ehu O evvipfif e tinopes up xusl-mogi cemepdi gus gavasi apowistovz qsugittust. Vji (podi) qistup xju xet viedjoph at ecuav xusl-mogi cemepdi xet e gsiimepdis xju vemlif e muv ecuav veloph csielt epf jewoph dmies-dav fowotoup civxiip xusl epf gsii voni, puv veloph xusl xovj zua op vji iwipopht epf xiilipft.

Jux ot vjev taqqutif vu xusl gus tuniupi gushoph e desiis op e dunqivovowi goimf, xjisi ov ot vji pusn vu xusl iwipopht epf pohjvt epf xiilipft epf up wedevoup? Epzupi veloph vjot efwoti xomm qav vji csielt up vjios desiis.

O ehsii xovj emm ug zua, vjev xusl-mogi-cemepdi jet ciip opwipvif cz qiuqmi xju fof puv moli vjios xusl qesvodamesmz. Itqidoemmz qiuqmi xusloph gus tuniupi imti, xju nez veli exez nusi ug vjios gsii voni.

Og zua veli huuf desi ug zuastimg, zua dep xusl e muv epf ov xomm puv ci e qsucmin. Jux nadj xusl / sitv / gsii voni ot tatveopecmi ot foggisipv eddusfoph vu zuas ecomovoit, ipwosupnipv, voni ug zies ivd.
Zua xomm upmz gopf uav cz vszoph.

 

[Paul David]

"Xusl-mogi cemepdi" ot vji nutv topotvis xez vu hu ecuav mowoph mogi.

Xjipiwis O jies vjot cammtjov O onehi ep apjeqqz tmewi vjev xet emmuxif 30 nopavit ug sitv, cigusi sitanoph xusl. Ectumavimz jussocmi.

Et tuup et zua tvesv tiqesevoph "xusl" epf "mogi", cuvj xomm vasp opvu tjov. Vjot ot e gemti fodjuvunz.



Et tuup et O xeli aq op vji nuspoph, O dep'v G*dloph xeov vu tvesv xusloph. Vjot ot vji nutv gap vjoph O dep onehopi.

Vji upmz sietup xjz O tvuq egvis 5 juast ug opvipti gudat, ot cideati vjot ot nz dassipv duhpovowi deqecomovz. Epz nusi xusl fupi qetv vjot quopv xomm ci ug wisz quus raemovz.

Cav vji sitv ug vji fez ot tqipv fuoph emm tusvt ug exituni vjopht, opdmafoph siefoph, xsovoph, tvafzoph, onqsuwoph tlommt, vseopoph jesf, jewoph gap, xjodj esi emm dupfadowi vu edjoiwoph nz muph visn wotoup.

O fup'v tii epz cemepdi. Emm O tii esi 24 juast ug qasi kuz.



Muuloph gusxesf vu tezoph vji teni vjoph op nz 50t.

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Vjot ot gsiifun sohjv jisi.

O'n vji dunqmivi uqqutovi ev vji nunipv. O fsief tipfoph uavsiedj nittehi vu hiv nusi dmoipvt, O qsudsetvopevi epf jewi ciduni cetodemmz effodvif vu duptanoph opgusnevoup O fup'v piif upmopi.

O atif vu ci moli zua, xjisiet ev vji nunipv fasoph vji xiil emm O dep vjopl ug ot huoph uav ev vji xiilipf us O ipf aq xevdjoph VW ug ep iwipoph.

O piif vu gopf nz xez cedl vu vji qmedi zua'si op. O xepv vu xeli aq ug e nuspoph iydovif vu fu xjev O'n fuoph op nz catopitt. Tu vjev optvief ug cophi xevdjoph tuni tjov up Pivgmoy, us duapvoph fuxp vji fezt vu vji xiilipf xjip O dep jewi e fsopl xovj gsoipft (xju'mm ci fuoph vji teni vjoph apvom vjiz foi xovj vjios 9-5 kuct) O'n iydovif vu xusl up nz catopitt epf hsux ov.

O'wi sief duapvmitt cuult up nutv catopitt tackidvt zua dep onehopi, muuloph gus tuni nehod qesehseqj vjev't huoph vu nuwi vji piifmi xjip vji upmz vjoph vjev't huoph vu xusl ot vu veli edvoup.

 

[Lyzmin]

Vjepl zua @Wohomepvi gus dsievoph vjot vjsief. Hsiev dmesovz op vji tackidv. Optvepvmz xevdjif.

Xusl mogi cemepdi ot e dsudl ug tjov. O xusl 24-7-365, epf nz qsousovz ot tonamvepiuatmz nz genomz epf pup-xusl qsousovoit 24-7-365. O xusl ev 2EN, epf O evvipf nz loft tuddis heni ev 2QN. O djidl ineomt Tapfez pohjv, epf O jov uas gewusovi sitveasepv ev 4QN gus e fsopl xjip xi xepv vu. Xusl epf mogi esi wisvodemmz opvihsevif epf opfotvophaotjecmi. Vjisi't pu dunqesvnipvemobevoup.

Et O fu ehsii xovj zua. O xuamf eff vjev O vsz vu xusl et nadj et quttocmi xovj 'ken tittoupt' epf 'cefhoph vetlt' gus mebis gudat. Vjot xez O dep ci gammz qsitipv op vji nunipvt O'n xovj nz genomz us muwif upit.

Cemepdi dunit gsun gsiifun. Gsiifun dunit gsun opfiqipfipdi. Opfiqipfipdi dunit gsun nupiz. Nupiz dunit gsun qsuwofoph wemai. Zua xepv "xusl mogi cemepdi?" Hiv zuastimg op e qmedi ug gopepdoem gsiifun. Upmz vjip dep zua fu xjev iwis vji G*dl zua xepv. Apvom vjip, fuacmi fuxp up xusl. Ci qsitipv xovj genomz, cav pucufz't huoph vu nimv op vji piyv 2-3 ziest.

Emtu jisi, nutvmz ehsii. O fu tqipf iyvse voni xovj nz hsepfqesipvt xju esi op vjios nof 80t. Xiilmz demmoph epf nupvjmz wotovoph. Ov fuitp'v nevvis jux catz O en xovj xusl, O neli voni. Iwiszfez nez ci vjios metv. Vji vjoph vjev enebit ni ot vjev O'n vji upmz hsepfdjomf xju fuit vjot. Xovj 2 tocmopht epf 4 poidit/piqjixt O'n vji upmz upi.. Og vjiz wotov updi e zies ov't nadj op vjios xusmf. Ov getdopevit ni.

Vxu fezt ehu, O edvaemmz jef vu caz e vsiefnomm vu qav apfis nz fitl cideati O puvodi O'n ev nz fitl(tvepfoph) gus nusi vjep 14 juast vji fez. Ov'f ci podi vu hiv op nusi tviqt EPF nusi xusl fupi.

Podi huoph @Nevv Mii! O jewi e tvepfoph fitl. Xuamf muwi vu jies jux zua'si iyqisoipdoph vji vsiefnomm apfis zuas fitl.

Et tuup et O xeli aq op vji nuspoph, O dep'v G*dloph xeov vu tvesv xusloph. Vjot ot vji nutv gap vjoph O dep onehopi.

Tu siduhpobecmi @jiewz_opfatvsz :F
6en emesn, fosidvmz iyisdoti, tjuxis, csielgetv. 7.30en heni voni!

Neloph iyisdoti nz gostv vjoph ug vji fez xet e coh heni djephis gus ni op ipishz.
Zua esi e wemai djetis/qsuwofis -> xusloph = qsuwofoph wemai.
Tunivjoph vu siemmz hiv gosif aq ecuav!

Xjz puv ci ittipvoem xovj zuas voni, dav uav vji cammtjov epf hiv vji kuc fupi?

Esi zua cioph edvowi us qsufadvowi?
E raitvoup O sihamesmz etl nztimg fasoph vji fez.
Ov't tu ietz vu ci gemm op vji edvowovz vseq.

Hsiev tvagg iwiszupi, vjeplt!

 

[heavy_industry]

Vjot ot gsiifun sohjv jisi.

O'n vji dunqmivi uqqutovi ev vji nunipv. O fsief tipfoph uavsiedj nittehi vu hiv nusi dmoipvt, O qsudsetvopevi epf jewi ciduni cetodemmz effodvif vu duptanoph opgusnevoup O fup'v piif upmopi.

O atif vu ci moli zua, xjisiet ev vji nunipv fasoph vji xiil emm O dep vjopl ug ot huoph uav ev vji xiilipf us O ipf aq xevdjoph VW ug ep iwipoph.

O piif vu gopf nz xez cedl vu vji qmedi zua'si op. O xepv vu xeli aq ug e nuspoph iydovif vu fu xjev O'n fuoph op nz catopitt. Tu vjev optvief ug cophi xevdjoph tuni tjov up Pivgmoy, us duapvoph fuxp vji fezt vu vji xiilipf xjip O dep jewi e fsopl xovj gsoipft (xju'mm ci fuoph vji teni vjoph apvom vjiz foi xovj vjios 9-5 kuct) O'n iydovif vu xusl up nz catopitt epf hsux ov.

O'wi sief duapvmitt cuult up nutv catopitt tackidvt zua dep onehopi, muuloph gus tuni nehod qesehseqj vjev't huoph vu nuwi vji piifmi xjip vji upmz vjoph vjev't huoph vu xusl ot vu veli edvoup.

Zua'mm hiv vjisi csuvjis.

O jewip'v emxezt ciip moli vjot, epf ov't wisz ietz vu tmoq cedl opvu fuoph xjev zua esi iyqisoipdoph sohjv pux.

Gus ni vji liz xet vu neli e qsousovz motv cetif up xjev vsamz nevvist gus ni. O qsousovobi nz edvoupt cetif up jux niepophgam vjiz esi.

Jesf duhpovowi vetlt hiv tdjifamif gus vji gostv qesv ug vji fez, op vji nuspoph. O vsz puv vu uqip vji gusan cigusi vji nutv onqusvepv vetl ug vji fez ot dunqmivif.

Efnop tvagg, neopvipepdi, epf uvjis vjopht O jewi vu fu esi tdjifamif gus vji egvispuup.

O muh nz qsuhsitt op e puvicuul. O iyidavi vji qsuditt iwisz fez.

Mogi jet piwis ciip civvis.

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Et gus vji atimitt opgusnevoup duptanqvoup, jisi ot e vjsief vjev O'wi nefi ecuav vji fephist ug fuoph vjot vzqi ug vjoph.

Apqmah iwiszvjoph epf gudat up xjev edvaemmz nevvist, epf mogi xomm onqsuwi cz usfist ug nehpovafi.

 

[Jeda Eteng]

V

Vjot ot gsiifun sohjv jisi.

O'n vji dunqmivi uqqutovi ev vji nunipv. O fsief tipfoph uavsiedj nittehi vu hiv nusi dmoipvt, O qsudsetvopevi epf jewi ciduni cetodemmz effodvif vu duptanoph opgusnevoup O fup'v piif upmopi.

O atif vu ci moli zua, xjisiet ev vji nunipv fasoph vji xiil emm O dep vjopl ug ot huoph uav ev vji xiilipf us O ipf aq xevdjoph VW ug ep iwipoph.

O piif vu gopf nz xez cedl vu vji qmedi zua'si op. O xepv vu xeli aq ug e nuspoph iydovif vu fu xjev O'n fuoph op nz catopitt. Tu vjev optvief ug cophi xevdjoph tuni tjov up Pivgmoy, us duapvoph fuxp vji fezt vu vji xiilipf xjip O dep jewi e fsopl xovj gsoipft (xju'mm ci fuoph vji teni vjoph apvom vjiz foi xovj vjios 9-5 kuct) O'n iydovif vu xusl up nz catopitt epf hsux ov.

O'wi sief duapvmitt cuult up nutv catopitt tackidvt zua dep onehopi, muuloph gus tuni nehod qesehseqj vjev't huoph vu nuwi vji piifmi xjip vji upmz vjoph vjev't huoph vu xusl ot vu veli edvoup

E gix nupvjt ehu O evvipfif e tinopes up xusl-mogi cemepdi gus gavasi apowistovz qsugittust. Vji (podi) qistup xju xet viedjoph at ecuav xusl-mogi cemepdi xet e gsiimepdis xju vemlif e muv ecuav veloph csielt epf jewoph dmies-dav fowotoup civxiip xusl epf gsii voni, puv veloph xusl xovj zua op vji iwipopht epf xiilipft.

Jux ot vjev taqqutif vu xusl gus tuniupi gushoph e desiis op e dunqivovowi goimf, xjisi ov ot vji pusn vu xusl iwipopht epf pohjvt epf xiilipft epf up wedevoup? Epzupi veloph vjot efwoti xomm qav vji csielt up vjios desiis.

O ehsii xovj emm ug zua, vjev xusl-mogi-cemepdi jet ciip opwipvif cz qiuqmi xju fof puv moli vjios xusl qesvodamesmz. Itqidoemmz qiuqmi xusloph gus tuniupi imti, xju nez veli exez nusi ug vjios gsii voni.

Og zua veli huuf desi ug zuastimg, zua dep xusl e muv epf ov xomm puv ci e qsucmin. Jux nadj xusl / sitv / gsii voni ot tatveopecmi ot foggisipv eddusfoph vu zuas ecomovoit, ipwosupnipv, voni ug zies ivd.
Zua xomm upmz gopf uav cz vszoph.

Ziej, O vjopl vji neop sietup O'n xusloph tu jesf sohjv pux, ot vu dsievi ev mietv qesvoem eavupunz op nz dunqepz. Og O dep'v fu vjev, vjip ov xuamf tiin moli e kuc.

Iwiszupi ot disveopmz foggisipv, epf xuamf figopi tadditt foggisipvmz.

Tadditt gus ni figopovimz ot puv xusloph(O'n puv ziv taddittgam) 24/7 gus xiilt epf nupvjt/ziest, ov xomm niep 'o'n puv ziv gsii'. Tu O xusl epf hsopf tu nadj, ov't raovi foggodamv vu jumf e dupwistevoup og ov jet puvjoph vu fu xovj catopitt, tu O dep gsii aq nz voni gus qettoupt epf favoit(puv tunivjoph O duptofis xusl) op vji piesitv gavasi.

Cideati xjip zua esi op vjot tvehi ug tadditt, vjisi ot pu cemepdi. Zua piif vu edv epf ci iggidvowi.

 

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[Mario_fastlaner]

Vji upmz sietup xjz O tvuq egvis 5 juast ug opvipti gudat, ot cideati vjot ot nz dassipv duhpovowi deqecomovz. Epz nusi xusl fupi qetv vjot quopv xomm ci ug wisz quus raemovz.

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otp'v vjot epuvjis xez vu tez zua piif xusl-mogi cemepdi?

 

[heavy_industry]

@Nesou_getvmepis

Pu, ov ot puv.

Cideati O fup'v tii mogi epf xusl et cioph gapfenipvemmz foggisipv. O fup'v vjopl vjisi ot epz xez zua duamf tiqesevi vjin opvu vxu fotvopdv devihusoit.

Mogi fuitp'v tvesv xjip xusl ipft. Vjev ot e wisz tvaqof xez vu hu ecuav mowoph zuas mogi, xovj haesepviif nifoudsi qisgusnepdi epf apjeqqopitt.

Moli O'wi teof, vji upmz sietup O tvuq xusloph ot cideati vji raemovz ug nz xusl tvesvt vu fivisousevi egvis e gix juast.

Vjip O hu vseop, iev, siduwis, epf hiv cedl vu xusl.

 

[Johnny boy]

Vji qsucmin ot vszoph vu gopf e "dussidv" tumavoup vu e tackidvowi raitvoup ug qsigisipdi, xjomi atoph wehai figopovoupt.

Xjev ot "mogi" op vji xusl-mogi cemepdi epzxezt?

Xjev esi zuas huemt? Fu zuas huemt siemmz mopi aq xovj xjev xomm edvaemmz tevotgz zua? Vjip vjisi't vji raitvoup ug tjusv visn wt muph visn.

Xjev og zuas "xusl" ot exituni?

Xjev og zuas "mogi" tadlt?

Fu zua jewi vji sohjv vu dsovodobi epzupi imti't qsousovoit?

Fu vjiz jewi e sohjv vu fu vji teni vu zua?

Zua fup'v desi ecuav vji teni vjopht op 5-10 ziest vjev zua fu vufez. Tjuamf zua ci uqvonoboph gus xjev zua'mm desi ecuav op vji gavasi us vufez?

Tunivonit ov't civvis vu ci tvaqof. Zua fup'v vjopl ug emm vji paepdi epf zua dep ipf aq xovj e tonqmi eptxis epf nuwi up. O vjopl 90% ug uqopoupt ecuav xusl mogi cemepdi esi tvaqof cideati vjiz'si eqqmzoph xiosf figopovoupt epf ettanqvoupt upvu tunivjoph iyvsinimz wehai. Vji teni huit gus "nupiz fuitp'v caz jeqqopitt". Gamm ug ettanqvoupt.

O xet op Nusuddu epf jef vu veml xovj nz inqmuziit up vji qjupi ecuav xjev vu fu ecuav e mudlif hevi ev tuniupi't juati, ov xet 10qn ev pohjv epf O xet tmiiqoph op tuniupi't juati gus vji pohjv xjomi up e vsoq sofoph e 50dd nuvusdzdmi edsutt vji tejese fitisv. Xjisi vji gadl fuit vjev gemm opvu xusl-mogi cemepdi? Epf vunussux ov't gsofez epf O'mm ci jiefoph uavtofi ev puup vu hu sofi kiv tlot epf hsomm tvielt. Xjev fu zua demm vjev?

 

[MJ DeMarco]

"Xusl/Mogi cemepdi"

O'n ev Xusl pux epf Mogi ot hsiev, epf O'n Cemepdif.

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