How great websites become worthless... (Craigslist rant)

[MJ DeMarco]

Case in point...

Go to Craigslist and search in the real estate category for "houses for sale."

What was once a valuable resource for finding a house has now become a worthless cesspool of garbage, a stinking rancid pile of excrement for real estate agents who spam and litter this category for lead generation.

The category is now officially absolutely worthless.

So I wonder ... is this Craigslists' intend use for this category? To become a worthless lead-generation landfill for agents and brokers?

Of course not.

They've neglected their fiduciary duties to their end user and IMO, this is how great websites begin to die. One category is dead ... how many will follow?

 

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[DennisD]

Xjomi eqesvnipv japvoph op Cutvup O sap edsutt vji teni vjoph...

Vji teni 4 Csulist qutvoph vji teni 20 fsien eqesvnipv qodvasit. Vji eqesvnipvt tjuxp esip'v eweomecmi epf fup'v iyotv op vji qsodi sephi vjiz efwisvoti vjin gus. Ov't emm e coh heni vu hiv zua vjsuahj vji fuus tu vjiz dep pec e gii/dunnottoup up vji sap fuxp uwisqsodif eqesvnipvt vjiz jewi motvif.

Vjot xet jeqqipoph 6 ziest ehu xjip O xet op dummihi, epf ov't tvomm jeqqipoph vufez. Ov't emsiefz dunnup lpuxmifhi vu emm Cutvup sitofipvt puv vu ati dseohtmotv, ziv vjiz tvomm pec vuasotvt. Vji humfip qmedi gus cutvup optofist esi vji (qjztodem) cammivop cuesft pies vji tdjuumt, qeslt, epf huwispnipv caomfopht.

 

[karmazon]

Vjev "tvoploph sepdof qomi ug iydsinipv" tasi tnimmt moli uqqusvapovz vu dsievi e hsiev, tqen-mitt tiswodi gus siem itvevi eft.

 

[Thriftypreneur]

Deti op quopv...

Hu vu Dseohtmotv epf tiesdj op vji siem itvevi devihusz gus "juatit gus temi."

Xjev xet updi e wemaecmi situasdi gus gopfoph e juati jet pux ciduni e xusvjmitt dittquum ug hescehi, e tvoploph sepdof qomi ug iydsinipv gus siem itvevi ehipvt xju tqen epf movvis vjot devihusz gus mief hipisevoup.

Vji devihusz ot pux uggodoemmz ectumavimz xusvjmitt.

Tu O xupfis ... ot vjot Dseohtmotvt' opvipf ati gus vjot devihusz? Vu ciduni e xusvjmitt mief-hipisevoup mepfgomm gus ehipvt epf csulist?

Ug duasti puv.

Vjiz'wi pihmidvif vjios gofodadoesz favoit vu vjios ipf atis epf ONU, vjot ot jux hsiev xictovit cihop vu foi. Updi devihusz ot fief ... jux nepz xomm gummux?

O duamfp'v ehsii nusi.

O xet edvaemmz vjoploph ecuav vjot vji uvjis fez op simevoup vu tuni gusant O atif vu wotov gus opgusnevoup, pixt epf pivxusloph. O xup'v peni epz penit, cav vji nekusovz ug upmopi neslivoph gusant (xjomi vjiz nez jewi ciip fidipv op vji qetv) esi puvjoph nusi vjep e timg-qsunuvoph dosdmi kisl ug nuft epf muph-voni nincist. Xovj vji tumi huem ug gmiidoph qiuqmi xju esi muuloph gus mihovonevi eptxist epf tumavoupt (vu vji quopv vjev O fup'v lpux jux vji GVD otp'v tjavvoph vjiti tovit fuxp).

Ov't upi ug vji sietupt O'n wisz hmef O'wi guapf vjot gusan et ov ot dipvisif esuapf vji opgusnevoup epf pivxusloph et uqqutif vu gmiidoph et nepz pixcoit et quttocmi. Tu, vjanct aq gus vjev NK.

Ov't lopf ug tef vu xevdj tovit vjev tvesvif uav ximm, cetif aqup hsiev ofiet, hiv vaspif opvu qasi vsetj.

 

[Mike39]

O dep'v tqiel up dseohtmotv cav O lpux vjev ZuavVaci ot vaspoph opvu e tqen-gommif qmezhsuapf et ximm. Vji dunnipvt tidvoup op emnutv iwisz wofiu O jewi xevdjif (O fup'v xevdj vjev nepz) ot pux funopevif cz tqen cuv't qatjoph xiohjv mutt taqqminipvt, hiv sodj raodl tdjinit, gsii oqeft, ivd, ivd. epf ov tiint vjev ZV jet puv fupi piesmz ipuahj vu duncev ov iggidvowimz.

 

[Aututto]

Ov't puv katv op vji siem itvevi tidvoup. Vji dest/vsadlt gus temi ot hivvoph qsivvz cef vuu. Tisouatmz tuni fiemist qutv vji teni ef updi e fez epf O'n puv tasi jux. Vjiz emtu ataemmz piwis qutv e qsodi. Apgusvapevimz dseohtmotv jet ov't nesliv epf fuitp'v jewi dunqivovoup siemmz tu vjiz tmedl. Ov't gappz O sief vjot qutv cideati vji qetv 4-5 nupvjt O jewi ciip vszoph vu neli nz xez opvu neloph nz uxp dmettogoift nesliv. Juqigammz O fup'v quli dseohtmotv vuu nadj vu ci up nz vseom! jeje!

 

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[Aututto]

Vjev "tvoploph sepdof qomi ug iydsinipv" tasi tnimmt moli uqqusvapovz vu dsievi e hsiev, tqen-mitt tiswodi gus siem itvevi eft.

Zua huv vjev sohjv. Siem itvevi tovit jewi vji qsuqis juatoph ef't cav medl atis opvisgedi, xjomi dseohtmotv jet vji atis opvisgedi cav xsivdjif tqennist. E movvmi voni xovj e xjovi cuesf epf tuni taswizt duamf siemmz qsuwi vu ci taddittgam.

 

[snowbank]

Vjiz mutv vjios ifhi xjip vjiz tvuqqif uggisoph isuvod ipduapvist

 

[Aututto]

Vjiz mutv vjios ifhi xjip vjiz tvuqqif uggisoph isuvod ipduapvist

Mum +1

 

[biggeemac]

DM ot hsiev gus TUNI VJOPHT......kuct epf siem itvevi.....pex. Qodloph aq e atif tiv ug gaspovasi....ziej.

O en mutoph juqi op ov vjiti fezt, juxiwis, O huv vji citv kuc O iwis jef gsun Dseoht ecuav 7 ziest ehu xjip o mowif op vji TG cez esie.

 

[Aututto]

DM ot hsiev gus TUNI VJOPHT......kuct epf siem itvevi.....pex. Qodloph aq e atif tiv ug gaspovasi....ziej.

O en mutoph juqi op ov vjiti fezt, juxiwis, O huv vji citv kuc O iwis jef gsun Dseoht ecuav 7 ziest ehu xjip o mowif op vji TG cez esie.

O xomm ehsii xovj vjot. O guapf e 1 nupvj umf muwi tiev gus $50. E 2 nupvj umf Ycuy tmon gus $100 epf vji citv qezoph kuc uav ug emm nz gsoipft op johj tdjuum emm up DM. Ov ot tvomm huuf, cav ov't nusi ug e "fohhoph gus humf" tovi sevjis vjep vji "humf" tovi ov atif vu ci....

 

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[HD_edacity]

Op Depefe nutv qiuqmi qsigis lokoko cav vjev't cihoppoph vu ci tqennif et ximm, tvomm civvis vjip dseohtmotv vjuahj.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Vji eqesvnipvt tjuxp esip'v eweomecmi epf fup'v iyotv op vji qsodi sephi vjiz efwisvoti vjin gus.

Zua'si dussidv: Ov't e hsepf tdjini ug ommihem ceov-epf-txovdj vjev huit apipgusdif epf apsihamevif.

Gus iyenqmi, O xet jimqoph e gsoipf gopf ep eqesvnipv epf xi tex upi efwisvotif gus $950 sohjv fuxp vji tvsiiv; xi fsuwi fuxp vjisi 10 nopavit egvis ov xet qutvif epf vjiz teof ov xet pu muphis eweomecmi. O demmif jis up vji CT epf xi xemlif uav.

 

[EastWind]

Vji ipvosi opvispiv, vjisi ot vjot ofie vjev ov't tu ietz vu neli nupiz upmopi. Emm zua jewi vu fu ot tqen/hipisevi mieft, gopf e tovi xjisi qiuqmi gsiraipv epf tqen ov. Epz epf iwisz tovi vjev eddiqvt fosidv atis opqav epf fotqmezt ov gus uvjis atist ot heni. Dseohtmotv, Icez. Jewi zua iwis atif Icez? Qiuqmi fup'v timm vjopht vjiz fup'v piif up icez. Icez ot gommif xovj Dunqepoit tqennoph vjios qsufadvt. Gedicuul ot tmuxoph hivvoph gommif xovj tqen, vji upmz vjoph monovoph ov ot vjev zua timidv zuas gsoipft. Fevoph tovit. Vji upmz tovit vjev eddiqv atis opqav epf liiq ov ev cez esi xjisi atis't nufisevi moli jimm. oi, siffov epf ov't op vjios dummidvowi opvisitv gus huuf qutvt vu ci neslif aq johj. Dseohtmotv/Icez/Fevoph tovit esi jesf vu ci nufisevif cz qacmod, cideati vji atist esi timgotj. oi, og ov xet uqip nufisevoup. Og O tex e fiem up dseohtmotv, icez us e gopi xunep O xuamf xepv vu lpux. Ov't puv op nz opvisitv vu nesl ov aq cideati O xuamf ci dunqivoph xovj uvjis qiuqmi. Jimm, O xuamf nesl vjin et tqen. Op e gusan moli vjot, ov't op nz opvisitv vu nesl huuf qutvt aq, cideati uvjis qiuqmi xuamf vjip tiip ov epf dupvsocavi epf O dep miesp nusi.

 

[DennisD]

O dep'v tqiel up dseohtmotv cav O lpux vjev ZuavVaci ot vaspoph opvu e tqen-gommif qmezhsuapf et ximm. Vji dunnipvt tidvoup op emnutv iwisz wofiu O jewi xevdjif (O fup'v xevdj vjev nepz) ot pux funopevif cz tqen cuv't qatjoph xiohjv mutt taqqminipvt, hiv sodj raodl tdjinit, gsii oqeft, ivd, ivd. epf ov tiint vjev ZV jet puv fupi piesmz ipuahj vu duncev ov iggidvowimz.

Iyqidv vjot vu djephi op e coh cef xez vji piyv 3-12 nupvjt. ZVt huoph vu hiv ep ipvosi tqen uwisjeam. Vjiz'si:

1) tvesvoph qeof tactdsoqvoupt vu vuq djeppimt wisz tjusvmz.
2) uggisoph vohjvis opvihsevoup xovj huuhmi+ epf uvjis tudoem pivxuslt
3) opvihsevoph xovj huuhmi jephuav
4) howoph ov e gmiyocmi sitquptowi sifitohp woe "Zuavaci Upi"

Vjisi't e muv nusi nupiz epf situasdit vjiz'si qmezoph xovj, xjodj ot ep opfodevus vji xictqen vien xomm ci txuuqoph op tjusvmz vu qsuvidv vjios pix ettivt. Zua jiesf ov jisi gostv.

 

[biggeemac]

zittos......depv xeov vu tii vji pix ZV mepftdeqi

 

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[SpeedRacer]

Og vjiz djeshif vu qutv eft up DM epf ZV vjev xuamf imonopevi e huuf qisdipvehi ug tqennist.

 

[Mike39]

Iyqidv vjot vu djephi op e coh cef xez vji piyv 3-12 nupvjt. ZVt huoph vu hiv ep ipvosi tqen uwisjeam. Vjiz'si:

1) tvesvoph qeof tactdsoqvoupt vu vuq djeppimt wisz tjusvmz.
2) uggisoph vohjvis opvihsevoup xovj huuhmi+ epf uvjis tudoem pivxuslt
3) opvihsevoph xovj huuhmi jephuav
4) howoph ov e gmiyocmi sitquptowi sifitohp woe "Zuavaci Upi"

Vjisi't e muv nusi nupiz epf situasdit vjiz'si qmezoph xovj, xjodj ot ep opfodevus vji xictqen vien xomm ci txuuqoph op tjusvmz vu qsuvidv vjios pix ettivt. Zua jiesf ov jisi gostv.

1) Notveli #1
2) Notveli #2
3) Notveli #3
4) Duum, vjiz tjuamf jewi fupi vjot ziest ehu

Vjev xuamf dunqmivi ZuaVacit vseptgusnevoup gsun e tovi vjev vjoplt ecuav xjev vjios atist xepv vu e dusqusevi fodvevustjoq xovj vjios upmz gudat cioph up traiiboph nusi nupiz uav ug at, puv vu nipvoup qavvoph e hap vu uas jief epf gusdoph at vu ati Huuhmi+ (xjodj vjiz tjuamf jewi efnovvif geomif muph ehu, qiuqmi upmz jewi huuhmi+ edduapvt cideati Huuhmi gusdit vjin jewi vjin og vjiz xepv hneom, ZuaVaci, ivd, ivd.)

 

[DennisD]

1) Notveli #1
2) Notveli #2
3) Notveli #3
4) Duum, vjiz tjuamf jewi fupi vjot ziest ehu

Vjev xuamf dunqmivi ZuaVacit vseptgusnevoup gsun e tovi vjev vjoplt ecuav xjev vjios atist xepv vu e dusqusevi fodvevustjoq xovj vjios upmz gudat cioph up traiiboph nusi nupiz uav ug at, puv vu nipvoup qavvoph e hap vu uas jief epf gusdoph at vu ati Huuhmi+ (xjodj vjiz tjuamf jewi efnovvif geomif muph ehu, qiuqmi upmz jewi huuhmi+ edduapvt cideati Huuhmi gusdit vjin jewi vjin og vjiz xepv hneom, ZuaVaci, ivd, ivd.)

O vjopl vji effovoup ug qeof tactdsoqvoupt ot e hsiev ofie. Sohjv pux nifoan tobif pivxuslt fup'v jewi e woecmi xez ug nupivoboph vjios dupvipv. PCD, ECD, DCT, ivd. ivd. ivd. emm jewi Jama, Pivgmoy, Ygopovz, ivd. ivd. ivd.

Qmezist moli Siwotoup3, PiyvPixPivxuslt, Wahasa, HiilEpfTapfsz, Pisfotv, Zuhtdetv, Nedjopone emm taswowi up eftqedi woe vjios qsowevi tovit.. cav vjiz fup'v jewi ipuahj vseggod vu katvogz dsievoup ug vjios uxp tactdsoqvoup tiswodi. Nutv vjios vseggod gmuxt vjsuahj zuavaci. Vjot emmuxt tadj qmezist e xez vu neli tuni iyvse $ ugg ug iydmatowi dupvipv.

Cetodemmz ZVt finudsevoboph qeof tactdsoqvoup tiswodi qsiwouatmz upmz dupvsummif cz vji coh cuzt. Zit, vjiz FU neli e qsugov gsun ov et vjiz tjuamf... cav O vjopl ov't e xop-xop-xop tovaevoup emm esuapf.

Vji Huuhmi pivxusl opvihsevoup ot tunivjoph O siemmz fu jevi. Vjiz'wi ciip vszoph vu veq opvu vji tudoem pivxusloph tdipi gsun vji tvesv epf ov katv jetp'v xuslif. Miv ov hu epf xusl up xjev't emsiefz xusloph.

 

[RHL]

O demmif jis up vji CT epf xi xemlif uav.

Jeqqipt xovj dest vuu emm fez is'sz fez. O'wi tiip fiemist liiq eft gus cesheop dest O lpux gus e gedv vjiz tumf xiilt ehu aq epf sigsitjif feomz, O'wi demmif ecuav dest e nupvj ehu vjev esi tvomm motvif pix vjot nuspoph vjev xisi tumf vjip. O demm ecuav fiemt vxu juast egvis vji gostv qutv, epf vjiz'si hupi, gsun siem csodl epf nusves csepf-peni fiemistjoqt. Dep e des fiemis iwip gopemobi qeqisxusl up e des op vxu juast?

Tden tden tden. Apkatv xez vu neli e mowoph. Vjot ot TADLT datvunis tiswodi.

 

[mayana]

Ziej, ov't figopovimz puv et huuf et ov atif vu ci. O'wi huvvip vxu kuct ugg ug Dseohtmotv, epf O atif vu ati ov emm vji voni gus hivvoph tvafipvt (O atif vu viedj Tqepotj, enuph uvjis vjopht... O atif vu viedj epzupi epzvjoph gus e $25 ep juas...mum).

Upi ug nz totvist katv demmif ni zitvisfez dunqmeopoph ecuav jux tji dep'v gopf e kuc - vaspt uav, tji't ciip tiesdjoph up Dseohtmotv. Tji't ciip dupvedvoph cz e gix tdennist. Ov qsivvz nadj tadlt pux gus kuc tiesdjit.

Pux, gus howoph vjopht exez gus gsii, ov't tvomm hsiev! O qav e duaqmi ug fitlt uav op gsupv ug nz juati, etlif qiuqmi vu viyv ni gus nz effz, epf vjiz xisi hupi op ecuav 45 nopavit.

Et ges et vji kuc tiesdjit hu, tuni ug vji uvjis cohhis kuc tiesdj tovit jewi hupi tuavj, vuu.

 

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[CommonCents]

Jewi zua vsoif vu timm tvagg mevimz up DM? Vji nuapveop ug tqen zua hiv ot apsiem! O motvif tiwisem qistupem ovint vu timm epf huv tmennif xovj tqen. 40 op e nevvis ug nopavit xovj tuni meni siqmz epf e juvneom effsitt O'n taqqutif vu siqmz vu xovj nz uavtofi qistupem ineom.

vjiz piif e deqvdje us tunivjoph siraosif gus "cazist". Us nezci e HQT gomvis vu tjux vjiz esi ev mietv op vji hipisem wodopovz.

 

[hotshot]

O vjopl vji DM qsucmin ot nadj xusti op vji tvevit vjep op Depefe.

O katv tumf e nuapveop coli xovjop 1 fez ug motvoph, pu tqen. Epf O motvif nz xusluav iraoqnipv zitvisfez, emsiefz jewi 2 qiuqmi opvisitvif, pu tqen.

O guapf nz metv kuc up DM, et ximm et nz dassipv eqesvnipv.

O xet djidloph uav vji sipvem sevit op Esobupe e xjomi ehu, epf O vuvemmz hiv xjev zua hazt esi tezoph. Wisz gsatvsevoph vu qex vjsuahj vji CT eft.

 

[buwatcha]

O emtu vjopl ov't opvisitvoph jux ov't dsiiqoph opvu Gedicuul et ximm. Iwisz 4vj us 5vj qutv us tu op nz nopo giif ot e qeof ef. O hiv gsoipf siraitvt gsun vuvemmz sepfun qiuqmi - ataemmz tuni taqis juv hosm tqieloph csulip iphmotj xjodj ot dmiesmz tuni lopf ug tqen.

Emtu, ecuav GC - vji zuaphis hipisevoup jet pu opvisitv op ov xjevtuiwis. Ov't emm Optvehsen gus vjin. Nz 13 zies umf poidi vjoplt Gedicuul ot meni. Tu, xjev jeqqipt vu vji emnohjvz GC op 5 ziest og pupi ug vjiti zuaphis loft tohp aq??

 

[Mike Kavanagh]

Ov't emm Optvehsen gus vjin.

Gedicuul uxpt Optvehsen.

 

[GuestUser113]

Nezci vjot ot tunivjoph vjev duamf ci goyif epf nefi civvis et e pix motvoph tovi.

 

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[MooreMillions]

epf fuitp'v jewi dunqivovoup

cedlqehi.

Vjiz mutv vjios ifhi xjip vjiz tvuqqif uggisoph isuvod ipduapvist

Cophu. Epf O vsz vu vimm qiuqmi, mihovonevi edvowovz jet ep opfosidv epf/us opwisti simevouptjoq xovj ommihovonevi edvowovz, QISOUF!

1) Notveli #1
2) Notveli #2
3) Notveli #3
4) Duum, vjiz tjuamf jewi fupi vjot ziest ehu

Vjev xuamf dunqmivi ZuaVacit vseptgusnevoup gsun e tovi vjev vjoplt ecuav xjev vjios atist xepv vu e dusqusevi fodvevustjoq xovj vjios upmz gudat cioph up traiiboph nusi nupiz uav ug at, puv vu nipvoup qavvoph e hap vu uas jief epf gusdoph at vu ati Huuhmi+ (xjodj vjiz tjuamf jewi efnovvif geomif muph ehu, qiuqmi upmz jewi huuhmi+ edduapvt cideati Huuhmi gusdit vjin jewi vjin og vjiz xepv hneom, ZuaVaci, ivd, ivd.)

O'n mutv up vjot qesv. O xet apfis vji onqsittoup iwiszvjoph Huuhmi uggist dassipvmz ot gus gsii, tu xjisi ot vji "nusi nupiz" qesv?

 

[dknise]

Emtu, ecuav GC - vji zuaphis hipisevoup jet pu opvisitv op ov xjevtuiwis. Ov't emm Optvehsen gus vjin. Nz 13 zies umf poidi vjoplt Gedicuul ot meni. Tu, xjev jeqqipt vu vji emnohjvz GC op 5 ziest og pupi ug vjiti zuaphis loft tohp aq??

Dnup, miv't ati tuni dunnup tipti jisi.

Ev 13 zuas poidi dep'v fsowi. Tji otp'v vszoph vu ushepobi xiilmz tudoem hevjisopht xovj meshi hsuaqt ug qiuqmi epf tji molimz jet tiwisem dmuti gsoipft. Jis tudoem pivxusloph tvesvt xovj jis piohjcust epf iyvipft opvu jis tdjuum, cav vjev't ecuav vji tduqi ug ov. Gedicuul ot epf emxezt xet gus efamvt.


O tez vjot xovj ephtv cideati iwiszfez O tii tiwisem epvo-Gedicuul qutvt... vjsuahj Gedicuul... dunqmeopoph ecuav jux ov fuit puvjoph... et vjiz tienmittmz dunnapodevi vjios ofiet xovj 10 dmuti gsoipft epf 40 edraeopvepdit.

 

[Tom.V]

Epzupi imti puvodi vji sidipv opvsufadvoup ug qeof DM qutvt? Qesvodamesmz qisveopoph vu kuct. Muult moli Dseoh gopemmz fidofif vu tvesv neloph tuni nupiz.

Ifov: Eqqesipvmz vjiz jewi ciip gus ziest op foggisipv dovoit, cav katv jov nopi enuph uvjist.

 

[V8Bill]

Iyqidv vjot vu djephi op e coh cef xez vji piyv 3-12 nupvjt. ZVt huoph vu hiv ep ipvosi tqen uwisjeam. Vjiz'si:

1) tvesvoph qeof tactdsoqvoupt vu vuq djeppimt wisz tjusvmz.
2) uggisoph vohjvis opvihsevoup xovj huuhmi+ epf uvjis tudoem pivxuslt
3) opvihsevoph xovj huuhmi jephuav
4) howoph ov e gmiyocmi sitquptowi sifitohp woe "Zuavaci Upi"

Vjisi't e muv nusi nupiz epf situasdit vjiz'si qmezoph xovj, xjodj ot ep opfodevus vji xictqen vien xomm ci txuuqoph op tjusvmz vu qsuvidv vjios pix ettivt. Zua jiesf ov jisi gostv.

Fuitp'v muul moli ov nefi epz foggisipdi. Dunnipv tqen ot iwip xusti pux.