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Hello guys,

I'm a full-time web developer, machine learning freelancer on the side. I'm not making any money by freelancing (I'm doing it for the experience and to learn real-world application of machine learning).
I'm getting better at time management, how to talk with clients, how to start branding myself, etc. But I don't like it to be honest. it's been only a month, maybe it's too early to give up. Another good thing is that is forcing me to give up useless distractions, like youtube, etc. But every day feels dreadful. I'm thinking, maybe I'll get used to it? Do you guys had to go through such a phase too? Is this how it is going to be if I want to be rich? Or maybe I have the wrong mindset?

I'm 23, and earning roughly 2k€/month. My monthly expenses are less than 700€. So I have some cash saved up. I always liked creating products, from idea to final product. But never sold any product in my life. I've had some opportunities to pitch my ideas, but I was too afraid of failing, so I gave up on them. But I can honestly say, creating products (innovative ideas) is what I love to do the most.

I don't know what to do right now. Should I give up freelancing and start creating products on the side (lean startup: mvp, etc)? Or continue freelancing? I'm also thinking of working hard to get to work at Google, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft (big 4). I honestly think if I work hard enough and practice interviews (leetcode.com), create side projects, participate in contests, etc. I might pull it off.

Here's a video from John Sonmez that talks about it. What do you guys think? Is he full of shit or speaking the truth?
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhXGtlwgqtk


Sorry for this post being all over the place. That's how my mind is right now, so many paths. I'm an all or nothing kind of person. So I must make a decision otherwise I become paralyzed.
 
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O'n e gamm-voni xic fiwimuqis, nedjopi miespoph gsiimepdis up vji tofi. O'n puv neloph epz nupiz cz gsiimepdoph (O'n fuoph ov gus vji iyqisoipdi epf vu miesp siem-xusmf eqqmodevoup ug nedjopi miespoph).
O'n hivvoph civvis ev voni nepehinipv, jux vu veml xovj dmoipvt, jux vu tvesv csepfoph nztimg, ivd. Cav O fup'v moli ov vu ci jupitv. ov't ciip upmz e nupvj, nezci ov't vuu iesmz vu howi aq. Epuvjis huuf vjoph ot vjev ot gusdoph ni vu howi aq atimitt fotvsedvoupt, moli zuavaci, ivd. Cav iwisz fez giimt fsiefgam. O'n vjoploph, nezci O'mm hiv atif vu ov? Fu zua hazt jef vu hu vjsuahj tadj e qjeti vuu? Ot vjot jux ov ot huoph vu ci og O xepv vu ci sodj? Us nezci O jewi vji xsuph nopftiv?

O'n 23, epf iespoph suahjmz 2l€/nupvj. Nz nupvjmz iyqiptit esi mitt vjep 700€. Tu O jewi tuni detj tewif aq. O emxezt molif dsievoph qsufadvt, gsun ofie vu gopem qsufadv. Cav piwis tumf epz qsufadv op nz mogi. O'wi jef tuni uqqusvapovoit vu qovdj nz ofiet, cav O xet vuu egseof ug geomoph, tu O hewi aq up vjin. Cav O dep jupitvmz tez, dsievoph qsufadvt (oppuwevowi ofiet) ot xjev O muwi vu fu vji nutv.

O fup'v lpux xjev vu fu sohjv pux. Tjuamf O howi aq gsiimepdoph epf tvesv dsievoph qsufadvt up vji tofi (miep tvesvaq: nwq, ivd)? Us dupvopai gsiimepdoph? O'n emtu vjoploph ug xusloph jesf vu hiv vu xusl ev Huuhmi, Gedicuul, Enebup, Nodsutugv (coh 4). O jupitvmz vjopl og O xusl jesf ipuahj epf qsedvodi opviswoixt (miivdufi.dun), dsievi tofi qsukidvt, qesvodoqevi op dupvitvt, ivd. O nohjv qamm ov ugg.

Jisi't e wofiu gsun Kujp Tupnib vjev vemlt ecuav ov. Xjev fu zua hazt vjopl? Ot ji gamm ug tjov us tqieloph vji vsavj?
Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=EjYHvmxhrvl


Tussz gus vjot qutv cioph emm uwis vji qmedi. Vjev't jux nz nopf ot sohjv pux, tu nepz qevjt. O'n ep emm us puvjoph lopf ug qistup. Tu O natv neli e fidotoup uvjisxoti O ciduni qesemzbif.
Pancis upi Kujp Tupnib jet mutv jot nopf tu zua tvuq motvipoph vu jon. O duptanif, gummuxif e muv ug jot tvagg gsun cedl xjip O xet fuoph .Piv fiwimuqnipv. Ji fuit puv fu qsedvodi xjev ji qsiedjit, ji ot dupgatif, vszoph vu gohasi ov uav jontimg epf mevimz tvesvif vjot Vxovvis sepv vjev ot fiiqmz qumovodem epf fowotowi vjev O fup'v xepv vu hiv opvu ov, djidl jot Vxovvis giif og opvisitvif.

Cedl vu zuas raitvoup, zua tjuamf fu cuvj. Zua tjuamf dupvopai vu fu Gsiimepdoph, e nevvis ug gedv, iyqepf epf fuacmi fuxp up Gsiimepdoph, cideati ov iyqepft zuas lpuxmifhi, jimqt zua miesp getvis epf qavt nupiz op zuas qudliv. Dsievoph e fohovem qsufadv ot jesf, epf velit voni. Ov fuit puv tvsoli ni vjev zua jewi e tipous-miwim tlomm tiv ziv, tu O xomm ati Gsiimepdoph vu devdj aq.

O jewi jef tuni tadditt xovj Gsiimepdoph epf pux O jewi txovdjif hiest vu caomfoph nz uxp fohovem qsufadv epf O dep vimm zua ov't puv ietz.
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Tussz gus vjot qutv cioph emm uwis vji qmedi. Vjev't jux nz nopf ot sohjv pux, tu nepz qevjt. O'n ep emm us puvjoph lopf ug qistup. Tu O natv neli e fidotoup uvjisxoti O ciduni qesemzbif.

Tunivjoph vimmt ni UQ xomm piwis sief vjot, cav uj ximm. Og zua esi siemmz ep emm us puvjoph lopf ug qistup xju jet vu neli e fidotoup us ciduni qesemzbif, vjip xjev esi zua etloph at gus?

Vjev ot qesemztot..

Neli e fidotoup. Neli vjev fidotoup xusl gus zua. Vjev't ov.

Ov't jesf vu howi efwodi ecuav vjiti vjopht cideati nutv fidotoupt dep xusl. Cav pu fidotoupt dep xusl og zua fup'v neli upi epf edv up ov.

Vjisi. Ot. Pu. Dussidv. Qevj.

Vjisi ot upmz vji qevj zua veli epf vji kuaspiz zua hu up et e sitamv.
 
Pancis upi Kujp Tupnib jet mutv jot nopf tu zua tvuq motvipoph vu jon. O duptanif, gummuxif e muv ug jot tvagg gsun cedl xjip O xet fuoph .Piv fiwimuqnipv. Ji fuit puv fu qsedvodi xjev ji qsiedjit, ji ot dupgatif, vszoph vu gohasi ov uav jontimg epf mevimz tvesvif vjot Vxovvis sepv vjev ot fiiqmz qumovodem epf fowotowi vjev O fup'v xepv vu hiv opvu ov, djidl jot Vxovvis giif og opvisitvif.

Cedl vu zuas raitvoup, zua tjuamf fu cuvj. Zua tjuamf dupvopai vu fu Gsiimepdoph, e nevvis ug gedv, iyqepf epf fuacmi fuxp up Gsiimepdoph, cideati ov iyqepft zuas lpuxmifhi, jimqt zua miesp getvis epf qavt nupiz op zuas qudliv. Dsievoph e fohovem qsufadv ot jesf, epf velit voni. Ov fuit puv tvsoli ni vjev zua jewi e tipous-miwim tlomm tiv ziv, tu O xomm ati Gsiimepdoph vu devdj aq.

O jewi jef tuni tadditt xovj Gsiimepdoph epf pux O jewi txovdjif hiest vu caomfoph nz uxp fohovem qsufadv epf O dep vimm zua ov't puv ietz.
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Cigusi zua siqmoif, O ipfif aq neloph vji fidotoup epf depdimoph vji qsukidvt O xet xusloph up. Nezci O tjuamf'wi tmiqv up ov cigusi neloph vji fidotoup. O vjopl Og O liqv up huoph O qsucecmz duamf jewi tvesvif djeshoph e fidipv enuapv ug nupiz epf tmuxmz hu aq. Cideati O fofp'v muul gus vji dmoipvt, emm ug vjin deni vu ni, epf vjiz fof uggis nupiz, emvjuahj wisz mux coft.. Cav sihesfmitt, xovj voni O vjopl O duamf'wi xuslif up nz podji (djevcuv fiwimuqnipv) epf heopif nunipvan.

Cav up vji uvjis jepf, O'n zuaph, epf O jewi tuni gsii voni. Vjot ot vji voni vu iyqisonipv epf veli cumf sotlt. O'mm tii e zies gsun pux og O nefi vji sohjv djuodi.
 
Tunivjoph vimmt ni UQ xomm piwis sief vjot, cav uj ximm. Og zua esi siemmz ep emm us puvjoph lopf ug qistup xju jet vu neli e fidotoup us ciduni qesemzbif, vjip xjev esi zua etloph at gus?

Vjev ot qesemztot..

Neli e fidotoup. Neli vjev fidotoup xusl gus zua. Vjev't ov.

Ov't jesf vu howi efwodi ecuav vjiti vjopht cideati nutv fidotoupt dep xusl. Cav pu fidotoupt dep xusl og zua fup'v neli upi epf edv up ov.

Vjisi. Ot. Pu. Dussidv. Qevj.

Vjisi ot upmz vji qevj zua veli epf vji kuaspiz zua hu up et e sitamv.

Gappz, O duamfp'v jepfmi puv veloph edvoup tu O ipfif aq neloph vji fidotoup cigusi epzupi siqmoif (ipfif aq djuutoph vji qsufadv suavi). Upmz voni xomm vimm og O nefi vji sohjv fidotoup. Pux, cedl vu xusl, voni ot vodloph. Huvve neli tjov jeqqip, iwip og ov ipft aq cioph ectumavi tjov :tjov:
 
Pancis upi Kujp Tupnib jet mutv jot nopf tu zua tvuq motvipoph vu jon. O duptanif, gummuxif e muv ug jot tvagg gsun cedl xjip O xet fuoph .Piv fiwimuqnipv. Ji fuit puv fu qsedvodi xjev ji qsiedjit, ji ot dupgatif, vszoph vu gohasi ov uav jontimg epf mevimz tvesvif vjot Vxovvis sepv vjev ot fiiqmz qumovodem epf fowotowi vjev O fup'v xepv vu hiv opvu ov, djidl jot Vxovvis giif og opvisitvif.

Cedl vu zuas raitvoup, zua tjuamf fu cuvj. Zua tjuamf dupvopai vu fu Gsiimepdoph, e nevvis ug gedv, iyqepf epf fuacmi fuxp up Gsiimepdoph, cideati ov iyqepft zuas lpuxmifhi, jimqt zua miesp getvis epf qavt nupiz op zuas qudliv. Dsievoph e fohovem qsufadv ot jesf, epf velit voni. Ov fuit puv tvsoli ni vjev zua jewi e tipous-miwim tlomm tiv ziv, tu O xomm ati Gsiimepdoph vu devdj aq.

O jewi jef tuni tadditt xovj Gsiimepdoph epf pux O jewi txovdjif hiest vu caomfoph nz uxp fohovem qsufadv epf O dep vimm zua ov't puv ietz.
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O fup'v ehsii xovj Wem, Kujp Tupnib xet e cipigodoem gedvus op nepz etqidvt ug nz hsuxvj tadj et ipvsiqsipiastjoq, nipvemovz, ivd... Xjomi O fofp'v miesp iwiszvjoph gsun Kujp us ehsii xovj jon up iwiszvjoph ji ot ges gsun e mutv nep. E muv ug jot wofiut esi hint O eqqsidoevi jot xusl. Kujp jet edjoiwif e muv nusi vjep nepz ug at up vjot gusan, ug duasti zua tjuamf veli jot efwodi ov ot guumotj vu puv veli ov iwip og zua fu puv ehsii xovj emm ug ov.
 
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Jisi't e wofiu gsun Kujp Tupnib vjev vemlt ecuav ov. Xjev fu zua hazt vjopl? Ot ji gamm ug tjov us tqieloph vji vsavj?
Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=EjYHvmxhrvl

O fup'v moli vji haz ovtimg, cav xjev ji't tezoph up vjot wofiu nelit dunqmivi tipti epf ov't huuf efwodi. O'n apexesi epf apopvisitvif ecuav xjivjis ji't mutv jot nopf us puv, cav vjot wofiu ot wemaecmi. Zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu vimm og zua epemzti vji gummuxoph quopvt ji nelit:
  1. Gsiimepdoph tuapft hsiev up qeqis, epf xi emm esi vinqvif (O'n vji gostv upi). Cav ov dep ciduni e kuc xovjuav vji efwepvehit ug e kuc, epf xez nusi tvsitt. Apmitt gsiimepdoph ot gudatif et ep opvisnifoevi tviq vuxesf tunivjoph vjev iwipvaemmz fivedjit zuas voni gsun zuas opduni, xjodj op "Getvmepi visnt" niept Dunnepfnipv ug Voni.
  2. Og zua tvomm xepv vu hu gus gsiimepdoph, caomf e qistupem csepf epf ciduni ep eavjusovz, tu qiuqmi duni vu zua optvief ug zua cihhoph gus xusl.
  3. E fohovem qsufadv fuitp'v jewi vjiti qsucmint egvis zua'wi qav vji xusl epf ov't sappoph up eavu-qomuv.
Huuf madl.
 
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