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Where I live is officially in a super strict lock down now. It started at 3 days, now it’s extended to 6, I hope I’m wrong but I can see it being extended until everyone is vaxinated, which is what they are already talking about doing in Sydney.

the football is still going ahead. Initially they cancelled it and now it’s going ahead again. The same day they came out saying everyone will need to be vaxinated to attend games. I would say there was a favour for a favour there.

our lockdown is so strict you can’t visit anyone, can’t be 10km from your house, all you can do is go to the supermarket or go for a walk. But of course the football can go ahead.

if this lock down is extended I think I’m going to leave the country, unfortunately it won’t be easy to do that quickly as we have just bought a house and all new furniture etc this year.
 

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Where I live is officially in a super strict lock down now. It started at 3 days, now it’s extended to 6, I hope I’m wrong but I can see it being extended until everyone is vaxinated, which is what they are already talking about doing in Sydney.

the football is still going ahead. Initially they cancelled it and now it’s going ahead again. The same day they came out saying everyone will need to be vaxinated to attend games. I would say there was a favour for a favour there.

our lockdown is so strict you can’t visit anyone, can’t be 10km from your house, all you can do is go to the supermarket or go for a walk. But of course the football can go ahead.

if this lock down is extended I think I’m going to leave the country, unfortunately it won’t be easy to do that quickly as we have just bought a house and all new furniture etc this year.

Mate, that's unreal!
 

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our lockdown is so strict you can’t visit anyone, can’t be 10km from your house
Say what you will about the U.S.A. but in terms of freedom, there's nowhere better.

In Florida, everything has been normal since May 2020 (last year) like 7-8 weeks after the whole thing started. Even with a large number of cases.

Yesterday Australia had 400 new cases. (Total lockdown?)
Yesterday Florida had ~39,000+ new cases. (Zero restrictions or mask anywhere)

They've made it abundantly clear, under no circumstances will we lockdown again or reinstate any mask mandates.

Does that mean we take personal freedom too far?
I don't think so, based on the current statistics.

Does that mean if a more deadly pandemic (or variant) were to emerge we'd be f*cked?
I don't know but maybe.
 

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In Florida, everything has been normal since May 2020 (last year) like 7-8 weeks after the whole thing started. Even with a large number of cases.

No joke, I'm very fortunate to have ended up here after living in Europe in 2019. If I had stayed elsewhere I would have lost it or moved somewhere?
 

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Does that mean if a more deadly pandemic (or variant) were to emerge we'd be f*cked?
I don't know but maybe.
If there were a more deadly something to come out people would take the steps to protect themselves. If you have an actual chance of dying from it people would not be out rubbing the shoulders.

The very fact that no one gives a shit about this shows pretty clearly that it has such a miniscule chance for negative effect on nearly everyone. If you are in the high risk category take the precautions needed. If you have no risk then why on earth would you hide in your house?????
 

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I seen a nuts thing online where a guy in parliament tried to run out with the green pass law or something.
So it ended up going ahead?
Sadly yes.

Now the gov is thinking about extending the green pass to trains, planes, and buses, but apparently that'd be in September.

Rough.
 

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If someone (e.g., employer) forces you to take the VAXCClNE against your will, ask them to sign a document saying so and that they're taking the responsibility if anything goes wrong. They're just pawns in a big scale Milgrim's experiment, so what do you expect they'll do?
Awesome tip haha ... lol. Its all so funny twisted backwards. Cant believe it. Can’t help but to laugh about this whole circus funhouse.

Ps, wouldnt take it even if they would sogn such a document ;) to hell with that. My soul is mine
 

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Some interesting data coming out about the VAXClNE. A recent study of infection outbreak showed that 74% of those infected were fully vaxinated.


I’ve discussed in prior posts how there are other signs that the story of the VAXClNE being 95-97% effective were almost certainly false.

Namely it has been previously reported by the CDC that viral loads from vaxinated and unvaxinated were similar. But as I discussed viral load is an indirect measure of how much infection is present.

If the immune system is functioning correctly then viral load should be minimal or zero since the immune system would be preventing the virus from significantly infecting a person.

There are many things this paper did not address. How sick vaxinated vs unvaxinated people got. Death of vaxinated vs unvaxinated, etc.

But…what this study and the prior information on viral titters show, is that the science on the effectiveness and also the safety of the VAXClNE are far far from settled.

One question I have, which was not addressed, are vaxinated people actually getting sick at a higher rate than unvaxinated? I say this because the infection occurred a month ago, and vaccination rates at that time were certainly less than the 74% reported infections, in fact average vaccination rates today are lower than 74%.

If infections are occurring at a higher rate in vaxinated people, this is a warning alarm that antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) might be occurring. ADE is one of the things many scientists have been very concerned about with a VAXClNE without long term testing. ADE typically occurs months or years after vaccination, and can have catastrophic Heath consequences.

Time will tell, but to me this is a blinking red danger light about the long term and unknown safety of the these V@X treatments.
 
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Some interesting data coming out about the VAXCClNE. A recent study of infection outbreak showed that 74% of those infected were fully vaxinated.


I’ve discussed in prior posts how there are other signs that the story of the VAXCClNE being 95-97% effective were almost certainly false.

Namely it has been previously reported by the CDC that viral loads from vaxinated and unvaxinated were similar. But as I discussed viral load is an indirect measure of how much infection is present.

If the immune system is functioning correctly then viral load should be minimal or zero since the immune system would be preventing the virus from significantly infecting a person.

There are many things this paper did not address. How sick vaxinated vs unvaxinated people got. Death of vaxinated vs unvaxinated, etc.

But…what this study and the prior information on viral titters show, is that the science on the effectiveness and also the safety of the VAXCClNE are far far from settled.

One question I have, which was not addressed, are vaxinated people actually getting sick at a higher rate than unvaxinated? I say this because the infection occurred a month ago, and vaccination rates at that time were certainly less than the 74% reported infections, in fact average vaccination rates today are lower than 74%.

If infections are occurring at a higher rate in vaxinated people, this is a warning alarm that antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) might be occurring. ADE is one of the things many scientists have been very concerned about with a VAXCClNE without long term testing. ADE typically occurs months or years after vaccination, and can have catastrophic Heath consequences.

Time will tell, but to me this is a blinking red danger light about the long term and unknown safety of the these V@X treatments.


Would you prefer ADE or long haul C0VlD?

I find it nuts government are making this mandatory to the population.

Non sensicle.
 

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Time will tell, but to me this is a blinking red danger light about the long term and unknown safety of the these V@X treatments.

I suppose we will know more when they are finished with the human trials next year.

According to a recent article on MSNBC, it appears Israel is finding that basically you are more at risk if you actually get the thing.
 

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Would you prefer ADE or long haul C0VlD?

I find it nuts government are making this mandatory to the population.

Non sensicle.

There are lots of reports of Long Haul C0VlD complex symptoms from vaxinated people too. They are being treated the same as people that actually got C0VlD. I don’t have numbers of the prevalence for C0VlD vs VAXClNE long haul C0VlD, but there are many many many reports. It’s believed that spike protein causes the long term C0VlD symptoms.

It’s been demonstrated in the lab that spike protein is cytotoxic, meaning it damages cells. People have tried to say that the VAXClNE is only the S1 subunit of the spike protein, and therefore won’t cause cytotoxic effects and damage tissues, so we should disregard this study and the risks it shows.

However as far as I am aware no one has done the follow up study with just S1 spike proteins to see if this cytotoxic by itself, and without that study it’s impossible to say that the S1 subunit is not cytotoxic if it isn’t coupled with the S2 subunit.

However, what we do know is that the VAXClNE has been causing myocarditis, which by definition is a cytotoxic effect. So clinically the S1 subunit has the ability to cause cytotoxicity.

We can do a little thought experiment and ask, why would the VAXClNE cause myocarditis? Well, what does the spike protein bind to? ACE receptors.

Where are ACE receptors especially concentrated? Heart and some other organs. So if VAXClNE is causing heart inflammation, one would expect the mechanism is the spike protein is circulating, binding to heart ACE receptors, and triggering a big inflammatory response which results in heart damage…this of course is a theory and needs research verification.

I saw a talk by a Mayo Dr, who unfortunately I can’t remember his name, but he was showing microscope slides of tissues taken after VAXClNE administration. What he was showing was the presence of inflammatory cells and scarring in multiple tissues following VAXClNE administration. I’ll see if I can find the video and share it.

I won’t pretend I have answers to a lot of things (anyone being honest will admit this), but as time goes on there are an increasing number of questions that are being raised about, and from my view the claim of safety and efficacy is unlikely what has been reported.
 
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Lol!!! I just found out that in Alberta, where I am from, there are protests FOR lockdowns!!! Hahahahaha.

No one is forcing these people to go out in public, you are 100% able to lock yourselves down at any given moment. The sheer stupidity is amazing.
 

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Lol!!! I just found out that in Alberta, where I am from, there are protests FOR lockdowns!!! Hahahahaha.

No one is forcing these people to go out in public, you are 100% able to lock yourselves down at any given moment. The sheer stupidity is amazing.
Stockholm syndrome.
That's their right though, so I am not against it in the slightest.
Peoples voices need to be heard. I just can't believe the hypocrisy of this entire thing that's all.
 
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There are lots of reports of Long Haul C0VlD complex symptoms from vaxinated people too. They are being treated the same as people that actually got C0VlD. I don’t have numbers of the prevalence for C0VlD vs VAXCClNE long haul C0VlD, but there are many many many reports. It’s believed that spike protein causes the long term C0VlD symptoms.

It’s been demonstrated in the lab that spike protein is cytotoxic, meaning it damages cells. People have tried to say that the VAXCClNE is only the S1 subunit of the spike protein, and therefore won’t cause cytotoxic effects and damage tissues, so we should disregard this study and the risks it shows.

However as far as I am aware no one has done the follow up study with just S1 spike proteins to see if this cytotoxic by itself, and without that study it’s impossible to say that the S1 subunit is not cytotoxic if it isn’t coupled with the S2 subunit.

However, what we do know is that the VAXCClNE has been causing myocarditis, which by definition is a cytotoxic effect. So clinically the S1 subunit has the ability to cause cytotoxicity.

We can do a little thought experiment and ask, why would the VAXCClNE cause myocarditis? Well, what does the spike protein bind to? ACE receptors.

Where are ACE receptors especially concentrated? Heart and some other organs. So if VAXCClNE is causing heart inflammation, one would expect the mechanism is the spike protein is circulating, binding to heart ACE receptors, and triggering a big inflammatory response which results in heart damage…this of course is a theory and needs research verification.

I saw a talk by a Mayo Dr, who unfortunately I can’t remember his name, but he was showing microscope slides of tissues taken after VAXCClNE administration. What he was showing was the presence of inflammatory cells and scarring in multiple tissues following VAXCClNE administration. I’ll see if I can find the video and share it.

I won’t pretend I have answers to a lot of things (anyone being honest will admit this), but as time goes on there are an increasing number of questions that are being raised about, and from my view the claim of safety and efficacy is unlikely what has been reported.
Which is why I prefer the Chinese vaccines...they follow the traditional inactivated virus methodology.
No spike proteins.

Of course though, some folks argue that the virus in such vaccines might be too dead to activate the antibodies...so the immunity wouldn't last long for the Chinese vaccines. And effectiveness outside test conditions are pretty mixed.

I would be happy if countries stocked up on BOTH mRNA and regular vaccines to give consumers a choice...but unfortunately, my country Malaysia recently said they would just use up government stocks of Sinovac, turning to Astrazaneca as the main pick to dish out. Sinovac can still be bought and sold privately, but at a few hundred ringgit....a stupid racket.
 

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You know that nervous person that jumps at every scene in a scary movie? That's Adelaide. We have to wear masks for at least another week in all public places even though no local new cases. Super tight lockdown of 2.5km radius was also not fun.
God dam.

I'm applying for remote work atm.

Mobility will be needed in these times.
 

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I enjoy the subversive feeling of buying Bitcoin.

Especially in the current political climate, where we seem one step closer to gulags-by-popular-vote every day.

I can't get vaxinated either as I don't identify as a man anymore, i identify as a unvaxxenite.

And it's sexual discrimination if i get the vax
 
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Prime Minister Morrison has promised lockdowns would be "less likely" once the country inoculates 70% of its population above 16 years of age - up from 19% now. Morrison expects to hit the 70% mark by the end of the year. read more

Damn @Timmy C, that's just insane. European countries that started months ago reached maybe 60% now and are slowing down. But I guess if Australia makes it mandatory, maybe by the end of the year (countless lockdowns later) they'll reach 70%, too. But of course by then it won't be 70% of vaxinated population necessary to make the lockdowns "less likely" (notice the vague language, "less" likely can just as well mean 1% less likely). It'll be 80%. Or 90%. Or maybe 150% lol.
 

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Damn @Timmy C, that's just insane. European countries that started months ago reached maybe 60% now and are slowing down. But I guess if Australia makes it mandatory, maybe by the end of the year (countless lockdowns later) they'll reach 70%, too. But of course by then it won't be 70% of vaxinated population necessary to make the lockdowns "less likely" (notice the vague language, "less" likely can just as well mean 1% less likely). It'll be 80%. Or 90%. Or maybe 150% lol.
It's all a power grab.
If people can't see that now they are braindead.

Going after something remote workwise atm to have mobility, then I have options.
 

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Damn @Timmy C, that's just insane. European countries that started months ago reached maybe 60% now and are slowing down. But I guess if Australia makes it mandatory, maybe by the end of the year (countless lockdowns later) they'll reach 70%, too. But of course by then it won't be 70% of vaxinated population necessary to make the lockdowns "less likely" (notice the vague language, "less" likely can just as well mean 1% less likely). It'll be 80%. Or 90%. Or maybe 150% lol.
They’re offering $300 to anyone who gets vaxinated, has been vaxinated or “speeds up” getting vaxinated.

It seems like they are rushing everyone to get it as fast as possible so as many people get it as possible before the side effects start to happen.
 

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They’re offering $300 to anyone who gets vaxinated, has been vaxinated or “speeds up” getting vaxinated.

It seems like they are rushing everyone to get it as fast as possible so as many people get it as possible before the side effects start to happen.
I won't be doing it.
 

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Some countries here might be a place to get a second citizenship.
One already mentioned being Mexcio.


Thoughts everyone?
 

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Where I live is officially in a super strict lock down now. It started at 3 days, now it’s extended to 6, I hope I’m wrong but I can see it being extended until everyone is vaxinated, which is what they are already talking about doing in Sydney.

the football is still going ahead. Initially they cancelled it and now it’s going ahead again. The same day they came out saying everyone will need to be vaxinated to attend games. I would say there was a favour for a favour there.

our lockdown is so strict you can’t visit anyone, can’t be 10km from your house, all you can do is go to the supermarket or go for a walk. But of course the football can go ahead.

if this lock down is extended I think I’m going to leave the country, unfortunately it won’t be easy to do that quickly as we have just bought a house and all new furniture etc this year.
At what will people conceive that the more they comply the worse it gets. is it after they have 10 different immunizations but still have no freedom??
 

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