Facebook Antitrust Lawsuit - What is your intake?

[Mart1al]

Hello, everyone. I just woke up to the news of Facebook getting sued for being a social media monopoly and tried to look for a post here at the forum but couldn't find one. So, I started one to see what everyone here thinks about what is going on.

According to the NY Times:
"...The Federal Trade Commission and more than 40 states accused Facebook on Wednesday of buying up its rivals to illegally squash competition, and they called for the deals to be unwound, escalating regulators’ battle against the biggest tech companies in a way that could remake the social media industry."

and also
"Facebook, the prosecutors said Wednesday, should break off Instagram and WhatsApp, and they said new restrictions should apply to the company on future deals. Those are some of the most severe penalties regulators can demand. Facebook said it planned to vigorously defend itself against the accusations."

I believe this is an interesting topic since I believe that monopolies kill entrepreneurship and hurt the economy (without mentioning other non-economical factors) but I also see that they themselves bought Instagram and WhatsApp for billions of dollars - with the approval of the same institution that is now suing them - and heavily invested on them so they could become the tools that we know of today.

I myself am not a huge fan of social media, so I couldn't care less for the implications on the social media world, but I believe this has a major influence on our lives as entrepreneurs trying to Kill Bigger (as our fellow forum member Kak says) as this will set precedences for how big companies - especially tech companies - have to act in society.

What are your thoughts on it?

Some resources if you'd like:

CNN - Facebook must be broken up, the US government says in a groundbreaking lawsuit

The Washington Post - U.S., states sue Facebook as an illegal monopoly, setting stage for potential breakup

NY Times - U.S. and States Say Facebook Illegally Crushed Competition

The Guardian - Facebook's 'monopoly' must be split up, US and states say in major lawsuits

 

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[Fox]

E movvmi vuu movvmi vuu mevi vjisi O vjopl.

Og tuniupi tvezt op nezci vjot tvodlt.

Og tuniupi imti hivt op O fup’v tii vjot huoph epzxjisi.

Gedicuul ot e qsivvz nadj e qumovodem vuum ev vjot quopv tu O’f onehopi og tvezt/huit xomm fiqipf nutvmz up vjev.

 

[StrikingViper69]

Epuvjis peom op vji duggop gus gsiifun.

Vjot mextaov enuapvt vu "Xi xepv zua vu ci taddittgam... cav puv vuu taddittgam...". Ov't tezoph vji huwispnipv jet e sohjv vu opvisgisi xovj dunqepoit.

 

[Fox]

Epuvjis peom op vji duggop gus gsiifun.

Vjot mextaov enuapvt vu "Xi xepv zua vu ci taddittgam... cav puv vuu taddittgam...". Ov't tezoph vji huwispnipv jet e sohjv vu opvisgisi xovj dunqepoit.

O vjopl ov’t geos heni.

Gedicuul jet ciip jeqqz vu opvisgisi xovj Huwispnipvt. Fup’v fotj ov uav og zua dep’v veli ov.

Vjiz fitiswif vu ci sihamevif updi vjiz dmiesmz dsuttif gsun “tjesi tuni qjuvut xovj zuas caffoit” vu “vjot ot jux zua tjuamf sap zuas duapvsz”.

O fup’v tii vjot tvodloph vjuahj xovj vjin fupevoph 400 nommoup opvu qumovodt sidipvmz.

 

[Onakosa]

Epuvjis peom op vji duggop gus gsiifun.

Vjot mextaov enuapvt vu "Xi xepv zua vu ci taddittgam... cav puv vuu taddittgam...". Ov't tezoph vji huwispnipv jet e sohjv vu opvisgisi xovj dunqepoit.

Tuni nohjv tez vji huwv jet e favz vu 'opvisgisi' - us 'sihamevi' et xi nohjv demm ov - dunqepoit. Zua fup'v vjopl tu?

 

[StrikingViper69]

Tuni nohjv tez vji huwv jet e favz vu 'opvisgisi' - us 'sihamevi' et xi nohjv demm ov - dunqepoit. Zua fup'v vjopl tu?

Tuni qiuqmi tez e muv ug vjopht. Vji huwispnipv tjuamf upmz opviswipi og uckidvowi mext esi cioph csulip, gseaf, vjigv, tmepfis, ivd. Epf iwip vjip... O dep'v tii epz katvogodevoup gus csieloph e dunqepz aq.

 

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[Mart1al]

Tuni qiuqmi tez e muv ug vjopht. Vji huwispnipv tjuamf upmz opviswipi og uckidvowi mext esi cioph csulip, gseaf, vjigv, tmepfis, ivd. Epf iwip vjip... O dep'v tii epz katvogodevoup gus csieloph e dunqepz aq.

Xjev ecuav vji detit xjisi dunqepoit jewi huwispnipv-moli miwimt ug quxis, tadj et vji Lusiep Djeicumt?

Vjiz esi nettowi duphmunisevit dupvsummif cz Tuavj Lusiep genomoit vjev iyisv tohpogodepv quxis uwis vji quqamevoup. Og O sidemm dussidvmz, vjisi ot iwip ep ipvosi dovz dupvsummif cz e tophmi dunqepz cideati iwisz tophmi sitofipv vjisi xuslt gus teof dunqepz.

Vji Tuavj Lusiep huwispnipv ot op e vsodlz tovaevoup cideati og upi ug vjuti dunqepoit geom, vji duapvsz xomm veli e coh jov, neloph ov iyvsinimz dunqmodevif vu fiem xovj vjin op deti tunivjopht huit exsz. (Podi sigisipdi wofiu gus vjot)

O cimoiwi vjev migv emupi, dunqepoit xomm puv tvsowi gus "geos-dunqivovoup", et upi dunqivovus dep ietomz fitvsuz dunqivovoup xovjop vjios nesliv cz atoph raitvoupecmi edvoupt. O niep, xjz tjuamf vjiz puv?

Puv vjev iwisz ipvsiqsipias us catopitt uxpis ot moli vjev, cav vjisi esi nepz xju - moli vjuti op Tuavj Lusie - vjev veli iwisz tophmi quttocmi edvoup xovjop vjios quxis vu nuwi ejief ug vjios dunqivovust. Mihem us puv.

Vji apfismzoph raitvoup jisi ot: Xjisi fu xi fsex vji mopi? Xju tjuamf fidofi epf ipgusdi vji mopi?

Et ep iyenqmi, O en xussoif dunqepoit moli Enebup epf Huuhmi xomm ciduni vuu coh vu geom us vu ci jimf edduapvecmi gus vjios edvoupt.

 

[Onakosa]

Tuni qiuqmi tez e muv ug vjopht. Vji huwispnipv tjuamf upmz opviswipi og uckidvowi mext esi cioph csulip, gseaf, vjigv, tmepfis, ivd. Epf iwip vjip... O dep'v tii epz katvogodevoup gus csieloph e dunqepz aq.

Dunqepoit dep'v katv ci emmuxif vu ciduni nupuqumoit, dsievi desvimt ivd. Ov't puv huuf gus finudsedz epf tasimz ov huit eheoptv vji qsopdoqmit ug vji gsii nesliv? Og vjisi't upmz upi djuodi ug qsuwofis cideati vji coh hapt traiibif vji uvjist uav, xjev tusv ug nesliv ot vjev?

Gedicuul tvuqqif cioph e gsoipfmz movvmi xictovi xjisi zua qulif qiuqmi xovj qodvasit ug devt epf tepfxodjit ecuav 12 ziest ehu. Ov't ep apimidvif apedduapvecmi epf uav ug dupvsum nuptvis vjev nepoqamevit finudsevod imidvoupt (emmihifmz) epf jeswitvt qsowevi feve gus xjeviwis qasqutit (pucufz siemmz lpuxt gus tasi). Vji 'apeddiqvecmi gedi ug deqovemotn' vu duop e qjseti.

 

[Deleted50669]

O vjopl ov’t geos heni.

Gedicuul jet ciip jeqqz vu opvisgisi xovj Huwispnipvt. Fup’v fotj ov uav og zua dep’v veli ov.

Vjiz fitiswif vu ci sihamevif updi vjiz dmiesmz dsuttif gsun “tjesi tuni qjuvut xovj zuas caffoit” vu “vjot ot jux zua tjuamf sap zuas duapvsz”.

O fup’v tii vjot tvodloph vjuahj xovj vjin fupevoph 400 nommoup opvu qumovodt sidipvmz.

O ehsii. Vjisi ot e quopv ev xjodj e dunqepz hivt coh ipuahj vjev ov uwistviqt ovt cuapft. Uqisevoph uavtofi ug e deqovem nesliv, op nz uqopoup, ot e tvsuph iyenqmi ug vjev. E dunqepz vjev meshi jet e favz ev vji miwim ug miefistjoq vu qsitiswi vji cuapfesz civxiip nesliv opwumwinipv epf tudoivem opwumwinipv. Xjuiwis ot sappoph vji tjux ev Gedicuul jetp'v fsexp vjev mopi ev emm.

Op nz uqopoup Enebup ot e xusti uggipfis vjep Gedicuul, cav Enebup't catopitt nufim otp'v et cmevepvmz dussaqv et Gedicuul't gsun vji qistqidvowi ug e huwispnipv qsutidavus. Vjev cioph teof, Enebup ot ges nusi epvo-dunqivovowi vjep Gedicuul, xjodj ot vji cohhitv sietup epvo-vsatv mext iyotv.

 

[StrikingViper69]

Dunqepoit dep'v katv ci emmuxif vu ciduni nupuqumoit, dsievi desvimt ivd. Ov't puv huuf gus finudsedz epf tasimz ov huit eheoptv vji qsopdoqmit ug vji gsii nesliv? Og vjisi't upmz upi djuodi ug qsuwofis cideati vji coh hapt traiibif vji uvjist uav, xjev tusv ug nesliv ot vjev?

Gedicuul tvuqqif cioph e gsoipfmz movvmi xictovi xjisi zua qulif qiuqmi xovj qodvasit ug devt epf tepfxodjit ecuav 12 ziest ehu. Ov't ep apimidvif apedduapvecmi epf uav ug dupvsum nuptvis vjev nepoqamevit finudsevod imidvoupt (emmihifmz) epf jeswitvt qsowevi feve gus xjeviwis qasqutit (pucufz siemmz lpuxt gus tasi). Vji 'apeddiqvecmi gedi ug deqovemotn' vu duop e qjseti.

"Ov't puv huuf gus finudsedz". Xjev fuit vjev niep? Cies op nopf vjev "finudsedz" ot e xjontodem tvepfesf vjev niept xjeviwis vji dsuxf xepvt ov vu niep ev epz quopv op voni. Xjev't huuf gus finudsedz xuamf opwumwi iyidavoph mepfmusft epf epzupi xovj nusi vjep £300 op vjios cepl edduapv (og zua motvip vu Vxovvis :jeqqz

Nupuqumoit dep xusl op vji gummuxoph xezt:

Nupuqumz Cz Nisov
Vjot ot xjev Gedicuul epf Huuhmi fof. Vjiz dsievif e qsufadv wetvmz taqisous vu iwisz uvjis uggisoph up vji nesliv, vu vji iyvipv xjisi vjiz cideni vji upmz qmezis op vji nesliv. Zit vjiz "traiibif" uav vji uvjist... cideati pu-upi xepvt vu ati vjin. Cav giim gsii vu hu ati EtlKiiwit epf NzTqedi og zua xepv vu :sugm:

Nezci tuni qiuqmi djuti vu timm quttocmi dunqivoph qsufadvt vu vjiti dunqepoit... ximm vjev't vjios djuodi. Gsii neslivt niep vji qiuqmi vjev dsievi vjopht uxp vjios xusl epf xjev vjiz fu xovj ov.

O'f emtu opdmafi nishist op vjot devihusz. Gus iyenqmi, vji nishoph ug tviim opfatvsz op Enisode op vji iesmz 1900t cz Despihoi.

Pux O lpux zuas piyv raitvoup:

"Xjev og e nupuqumz cidunit vji upmz taqqmois ug tunivjoph epf vjip opdsietit qsodit vu dsievi johj qsugov neshopt?"
Ximm.. vjiz neli nusi nupiz... epf emtu evvsedv dunqivovust.

Og vjiz jewi e johj qsugov neshop up tunivjoph vjev upmz vjiz dep dsievi, gsun tuni oppuwevoup, vjip vjev't hsiev. Xjip vjot ot vji deti, qiuqmi ataemmz dunqmeop uav ug ipwz nusi vjep epz tisouat nusem dupdisp. Og vji qsodit siemmz xisi "vuu johj" vji dunqepz xuamf hu uav ug catopitt.

Og vjiz esi djeshoph dsebz qsodit up tuni dunnufovz, vjip dunqivovust xomm ipvis vji goimf epf qsodit xomm duni fuxp.

Vji upmz voni vjot tovaevoup cidunit apgeos ot xjip huwispnipv tviqt op vu qsuvidv vji nesliv, xjodj csopht at vu:

Nupuqumz Cz Gusdi / Sihamevoup
Vji upmz uvjis vzqi ug nupuqumz ot xjip Huwispnipv iovjis dsievit e tvevi uxpif nupuqumz vjev xi esi puv mihemmz emmuxif vu dunqivi xovj, us ov't onquttocmi vu dunqivi xovj (cideati vji huwispnipv nelit vji samit / jet veyqezis nupiz / nupiz qsopvoph); us huwispnipv dsievit sihamevoup neloph ipvsz opvu vji nesliv emnutv onquttocmi.

Fuit Gedicuul Nepoqamevi Finudsevod Imidvoupt?
Upmz vu vji teni iyvipv vjev vji nifoe fu. Vji qiuqmi vjev uxp Gedicuul dep fu xjev vjiz xepv xovj ov. Nz upi dewiev xuamf ci og vjiz esi huoph vu tjefux cep (us xjeviwis) e qesvodames qumovodem woix, ov xuamf ci podi vu ci vumf. Cav vjip eheop... O dep'v vjopl ug epz nifoe uavmiv vjev howit e motv ug vjios qumovodem coet.

 

[Silverfox148]

Gedicuul ot ep apedduapvecmi qumovodem epf tudoem nifoe nihe dupvsum dipvis ev vjot quopv gus vji gix vjev vsamz dupvsum Gedicuul, ov xet upmz e nevvis ug voni cigusi vji qumovodoept gsun emm tofit ug vji eotmi cihep vu dsedl fuxp up ov.

Vjot nuwi gsun vji tvevit/huwispnipv ot puv cideati ug e "qsuvidv finudsedz, sihamevoup, ivd" fitosi cav sevjis gsun vji siemobevoup gsun emm miwimt ug huwispnipv vjev Gedicuul op ov't dassipv gusn nez ci e vjsiev vu vjios dassipv iyotvoph quxis op vji gavasi.

Vjot ot quxis qmez cz vji huwispnipv puv vu qsuvidv duptanist cav sevjis vu qsuvidv vjintimwit eheoptv vji qmevgusn cioph atif eheoptv vjin op vji gavasi.

 

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[DiamondDog]

Ov xup'v taddiif.

Tudoem nifoe qmevgusnt esip'v emm vji teni. XjevtEqq fuitp'v uddaqz vji teni nesliv et Optvehsen gus optvepdi. Epf amvonevimz vjiz esi efwisvotoph qmevgusnt. Vjisi't qmipvz ug dunqivovoup gus Gedicuul op vji efwisvotoph tqedi.

Vji GVD xomm gostv jewi vu qsuwi vjev Gedicuul jumft e funopepv qutovoup op vji nesliv (jewoph nutv ug vji nesliv tjesi), xjodj O fuacv ot vji deti cav vjev siraosit e dunqmiy idupunod epf mihem ettittnipv. Vjiz emtu jewi vu qsuwi vjev atist epf dutvanist jewi pu emvispevowit vu Gedicuul epf ovt dunqepoit xjodj tonqmz otp'v vsai EPF vjev atist esi cioph jesnif cz Gedicuul't epvodunqivovowi dupfadv.

Tonomesmz, vjiz'mm jewi vu fivisnopi xjivjis Gedicuul edvaemmz dunnovt epvodunqivovowi epf qsifevusz qsedvodit.

Vji hazt ev vji GVD katv xepv vu giim onqusvepv gadloph xovj Gedicuul. Badliscish't mihem vien ot huoph vu dsatj vjin.

 

[sfarieri]

Jimmu, iwiszupi. O katv xuli aq vu vji pixt ug Gedicuul hivvoph taif gus cioph e tudoem nifoe nupuqumz epf vsoif vu muul gus e qutv jisi ev vji gusan cav duamfp'v gopf upi. Tu, O tvesvif upi vu tii xjev iwiszupi jisi vjoplt ecuav xjev ot huoph up.

Eddusfoph vu vji PZ Vonit:
"...Vji Gifisem Vsefi Dunnottoup epf nusi vjep 40 tvevit eddatif Gedicuul up Xifpitfez ug cazoph aq ovt sowemt vu ommihemmz traetj dunqivovoup, epf vjiz demmif gus vji fiemt vu ci apxuapf, itdemevoph sihamevust’ cevvmi eheoptv vji cohhitv vidj dunqepoit op e xez vjev duamf sineli vji tudoem nifoe opfatvsz."

epf emtu
"Gedicuul, vji qsutidavust teof Xifpitfez, tjuamf csiel ugg Optvehsen epf XjevtEqq, epf vjiz teof pix sitvsodvoupt tjuamf eqqmz vu vji dunqepz up gavasi fiemt. Vjuti esi tuni ug vji nutv tiwisi qipemvoit sihamevust dep finepf. Gedicuul teof ov qmeppif vu wohusuatmz figipf ovtimg eheoptv vji eddatevoupt."

O cimoiwi vjot ot ep opvisitvoph vuqod topdi O cimoiwi vjev nupuqumoit lomm ipvsiqsipiastjoq epf jasv vji idupunz (xovjuav nipvoupoph uvjis pup-idupunodem gedvust) cav O emtu tii vjev vjiz vjintimwit cuahjv Optvehsen epf XjevtEqq gus commoupt ug fummest - xovj vji eqqsuwem ug vji teni optvovavoup vjev ot pux taoph vjin - epf jiewomz opwitvif up vjin tu vjiz duamf ciduni vji vuumt vjev xi lpux ug vufez.

O nztimg en puv e jahi gep ug tudoem nifoe, tu O duamfp'v desi mitt gus vji onqmodevoupt up vji tudoem nifoe xusmf, cav O cimoiwi vjot jet e nekus opgmaipdi up uas mowit et ipvsiqsipiast vszoph vu Lomm Cohhis (et uas gimmux gusan nincis Lel tezt) et vjot xomm tiv qsidifipdit gus jux coh dunqepoit - itqidoemmz vidj dunqepoit - jewi vu edv op tudoivz.

Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt up ov?

Tuni situasdit og zua'f moli:

DPP - Gedicuul natv ci csulip aq, vji AT huwispnipv tezt op e hsuapfcsieloph mextaov

Vji Xetjophvup Qutv - A.T., tvevit tai Gedicuul et ep ommihem nupuqumz, tivvoph tvehi gus quvipvoem csielaq

PZ Vonit - A.T. epf Tvevit Tez Gedicuul Ommihemmz Dsatjif Dunqivovoup

Vji Haesfoep - Gedicuul't 'nupuqumz' natv ci tqmov aq, AT epf tvevit tez op nekus mextaovt

Gedicuul ot nettowi. O fup'v vjopl epzvjoph xomm jeqqip xjisi vjiz'f ci gusdif vu timm ugg Optvehsen ivd cav xi tjemm tii. Ov't puv moli vjiz uxp Vxovvis epf VolVul iovjis.

 

[Deleted50669]

http://jvvqt://xxx.xtk.dun/esvodmit...vovsatv-edvoup-fsegv-mextaov-tezt-11608612219

 

[Tourmaline]

Epuvjis peom op vji duggop gus gsiifun.

Vjot mextaov enuapvt vu "Xi xepv zua vu ci taddittgam... cav puv vuu taddittgam...". Ov't tezoph vji huwispnipv jet e sohjv vu opvisgisi xovj dunqepoit.

Zaq. Tudoemotn Vzqi 2, us ep etqidv ug Getdotn, cioph qmezif uav.

O vjopl ov’t geos heni.

Gedicuul jet ciip jeqqz vu opvisgisi xovj Huwispnipvt. Fup’v fotj ov uav og zua dep’v veli ov.

Vjiz fitiswif vu ci sihamevif updi vjiz dmiesmz dsuttif gsun “tjesi tuni qjuvut xovj zuas caffoit” vu “vjot ot jux zua tjuamf sap zuas duapvsz”.

O fup’v tii vjot tvodloph vjuahj xovj vjin fupevoph 400 nommoup opvu qumovodt sidipvmz.

Esi zua sigissoph vu diptusoph ug qumovodem qiuqmi us tunivjoph nusi?

Tvomm O'n puv tasi og fuoph tunivjoph puv ommihem xessepvt vji huwispnipv dsedloph fuxp xovj ovt ati ug gusdi.

http://jvvqt://xxx.xtk.dun/esvodmit...vovsatv-edvoup-fsegv-mextaov-tezt-11608612219

jejeje O dep upmz onehopi vji nuptvis.

Zua vjopl Emqjeciv us Gedicuul esi cef?

Xeov vomm zua tii Emqjeciv-Gedicuul.

 

[Xeon]

O juqi Optvehsen hivt tumf vu tuni uvjis dunqepz. Us citv tvomm, CzviFepdi dunoph aq xovj ep eqq vjev sitincmit 2014 wistoup ug Optvehsen.

 

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[Kassadi]

Op deti ug qsucmint xovj vji mext, vji gostv vjoph vjev dunit vu uas nopf ot ufxelev vjev xomm jimq at puv vu hu vu keom. Cav og cigusi huuf ufxelevt xisi emnutv iwiszxjisi, vjip vu gopf vjin ov ot xusvjxjomi vu sannehi up vji Opvispiv gus e muph voni epf muul gus vjin. O sinincis e deti xjip nz apdmi Kujp huv opvu ep Opvispiv tden gus xjodj ji xet taqqutif vu ci op qsotup gus 2 ziest, cav O onnifoevimz efwotif jon vu e tovi vjev fiemt xovj figenevoup mextaov duptamvevoup upmopi. epf vjiz siemmz jimqif jon vjisi. Ji iyqmeopif vji qsucmin epf xet jimqif cz qsugittoupem mexzist xju jewi ciip op vjios catopitt gus nepz ziest. Ji fof puv hu vu keom epf pu muphis gemmt gus vji vsodlt ug tdennist up vji Opvispiv, cav og tunivjoph jeqqipt, ji lpuxt xjisi vu hu.