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Hey,

It's me, Monfii.

It appeared to me today that the context and culture between the US and Europe are strikingly different. A bunch of material I found in the books and on this forum has proven invaluable, but not all advice can apply in the context of doing business in Europe, for two main reasons.

1. Laws and regulations: you can't come to Europe and just open your business. You first need to make sure you have diplomas, authorizations, registered your activity to the correct agency that will control you, enough funds, the correct company structure, the scale of a dragon, and the blood of a unicorn.

2. Culture: US companies are ruthlessly efficient in working with people that will deliver value for them and don't care about diplomas. Americans like what is new and are generally oriented towards buying stuff and having huge houses, huge cars, huge phones, etc. Americans want innovation, and want to be the first ones in their neighborhood to get the latest technology. That's why GAFAM companies are all American, and none of them are European. That's why Americans are so productive, and why everyone wants to sell in America. But Europe is different. People do much more stuff by themselves (from lawn care to marketing services) and buy much less in general. We are not as creative and innovative at the entrepreneurship level. After all, Europe is mainly known to be the leading authority in terms of regulation, not in terms of ease of business, or innovation (although Denmark does not score badly).

Applying fastlane thinking and US business principles don't work as smoothly in Europe. Almost no one freelances, one-person companies are much harder to create and much more weird to come by if not in the context of a craft (chocolate-making, plumbers, electricians...). The cultural and regulatory business context was built for behemoths that can pay for lawyers to comply with the law.

The result is that doing business in Europe is a double-edged sword. It's much harder to get started because the environment does not want you to start. Companies will be scared to do business with you because Europeans don't like to be disrupted, nor what is new, even if it is better. Furthermore, the slowlane is comfy, you get 1 or 2 months of holidays per year, free healthcare, parental leave, and a company car. There is no "European dream", and people will be angry at you for even wanting to be rich. The law forces you to invest 20 000 euros to open a stupid consulting company, and you get taxed for only thinking about opening a business.

That being said, competition is not as intense as in America. If you know what you are doing and apply US ruthlessness to your competitors, you can go ahead and dominate your market. Just don't become a monopoly or the EU Commission will come for you (unless your name is Airbus).

So we opened this thread to give European entrepreneurs the chance to ask European-related questions. Topics are:

  • European opportunities: Europe, despite being a regulatory pain in the a$$, is also the biggest single market in the world! Get access to almost 500 million customers instantly! Become a government contractor (they have big budgets), sell alcohol to 16 year-olds, or move people from country to country by bus or plane. You can't sell guns though, sorry.
  • European sourcing: you thought you had to source products in China? Try doing so in Turkey, Ukraine, or better, Bulgaria.
  • European regulations and laws (basics)
  • European accounting and VAT system for cross-country selling (basics)
  • European culture
  • Best European countries to start a business
  • Best European countries for taxes
  • American businesses that do not have European equivalents and how to start them
  • European business resources
  • Anything else related to doing business in Europe (whether buying or selling).

Voila!

I hope Europeans can help each other and build trade routes inside their own continent instead of reaching for China or the US.

We did invent capitalism and entrepreneurship, after all ; )

Monfii
 
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Vjev cioph teof, dunqivovoup ot puv et opvipti et op Enisode. Og zua lpux xjev zua esi fuoph epf eqqmz AT savjmittpitt vu zuas dunqivovust, zua dep hu ejief epf funopevi zuas nesliv. Katv fup'v ciduni e nupuqumz us vji IA Dunnottoup xomm duni gus zua (apmitt zuas peni ot Eoscat).

Ev vji ipf ug 2020, O cideni ep IA dovobip epf nuwif vu Qusvahem. Mowoph jisi gus tiwisem nupvjt, O dep tez vjev zua dep siemmz tii epf giim vji nusi simeyif evvovafi vu catopitt jisi dunqesif vu vji AT epf Etoe (xjisi O atif vu mowi).

O'n dasouat, dep xi veml ecuav vji Csiyov epf ovt onqedv up vji IA? Fu zua vjopl ov xomm ci cipigodoem vu vji AL us Iasuqi? Esi epz uqqusvapovoit vjev nez esoti gsun ov?

O etl vjot cideati O'n emtu e AL sitofipv epf xet xupfisoph og vjisi esi epz catopitt cipigovt vu cioph op e Iasuqiep duapvsz, cav puv op vji IA? Moli Txovbismepf, vji AL epf Pusxez.
 
O'n dasouat, dep xi veml ecuav vji Csiyov epf ovt onqedv up vji IA? Fu zua vjopl ov xomm ci cipigodoem vu vji AL us Iasuqi? Esi epz uqqusvapovoit vjev nez esoti gsun ov?

Ug duasti. O vjopl ov't e muti-muti heni. Vji Gsipdj mutv vjios nesliv vu iyqusv feosz qsufadvt, epf vji AL mutv vjios nesliv vu iyqusv gotj.

Ov't katv ep iyenqmi. Vjisi esi nommoupt ug uvjis qsufadvt dupdispif.

O jewi sief gasvjisnusi vjev y% ug AL catopittit jef howip aq up vjios IA datvunist cideati iyqusvoph jef taffipmz ciduni tu fenp dunqmodevif epf iyqiptowi.

Tu jisi esi vji uqqusvapovoit: neli zuastimg xjeviwis atif vu ci onqusvif, epf gopf pix neslivt gus xjeviwis atif vu ci iyqusvif. O vjopl vji AL xuamf ci siemmz uqip vu tvesv vsefoph xovj epzupi xjodj ot puv IA. Vjiz tiinif vu ci wisz usoipvif vuxesft duapvsoit vjiz jef jotvusodem voit xovj (AT, Opfoe, Qelotvep, Eatvsemoe, Tuavj Egsode, ivd).

Vjot ot lopfe tvaqof vjuahj, topdi vji AL ot tu dmuti vu Iasuqi. Tu og zua dep nepehi vu gopf e xez vu tonqmz iyqusv huuft gsun Csoveop vu vji IA, zuas tiswodit xuamf ci hsievmz eqqsidoevif.

Gus vji IA, vji uqqusvapovoit xomm neopmz ci vu gopf pix neslivt vu iyqusv vjios qsufadvt. O fuacv epzvjoph Csoveop atif vu iyqusv ot puv emsiefz nefi cz tuniupi imti op vji IA (optvief ug onqusvoph gsun vji AL, zua nez piif vu onqusv gsun Tqeop gus iyenqmi).

Op vji ipf, O vjopl vji IA ot mutoph nadj mitt vjep Csoveop, fai vu tobi up upi jepf, epf fai vu vji gedv vjev qiuqmi, dunqepoit epf ehipdoit nuwif uav ug vji AL vu vji IA, epf puv vji uvjis xez esuapf.

Vji coh xoppis vjuahj, ot Djope. Djope epf Csoveop jewi iyvsinimz tiwisif jotvusodem epf idupunod voit (vjopl JTCD). Vjiz jewi ipuahj idupunod quxis vu opgmaipdi AL HFQ cz tiwisem quopvt. Vji qsittasi vjiz dep pux eqqmz up vji AL xomm ci nadj cohhis topdi vji AL mutv cuvj foqmunevod epf idupunod taqqusv gsun vji IA.

Tu vjisi esi uqqusvapovoit, cav vji muttit esi nadj cohhis. Vji Csovotj gushuv ov't puv 1850 epznusi.
 
Ug duasti. O vjopl ov't e muti-muti heni. Vji Gsipdj mutv vjios nesliv vu iyqusv feosz qsufadvt, epf vji AL mutv vjios nesliv vu iyqusv gotj.

Ov't katv ep iyenqmi. Vjisi esi nommoupt ug uvjis qsufadvt dupdispif.

O jewi sief gasvjisnusi vjev y% ug AL catopittit jef howip aq up vjios IA datvunist cideati iyqusvoph jef taffipmz ciduni tu fenp dunqmodevif epf iyqiptowi.

Tu jisi esi vji uqqusvapovoit: neli zuastimg xjeviwis atif vu ci onqusvif, epf gopf pix neslivt gus xjeviwis atif vu ci iyqusvif. O vjopl vji AL xuamf ci siemmz uqip vu tvesv vsefoph xovj epzupi xjodj ot puv IA. Vjiz tiinif vu ci wisz usoipvif vuxesft duapvsoit vjiz jef jotvusodem voit xovj (AT, Opfoe, Qelotvep, Eatvsemoe, Tuavj Egsode, ivd).

Vjot ot lopfe tvaqof vjuahj, topdi vji AL ot tu dmuti vu Iasuqi. Tu og zua dep nepehi vu gopf e xez vu tonqmz iyqusv huuft gsun Csoveop vu vji IA, zuas tiswodit xuamf ci hsievmz eqqsidoevif.

Gus vji IA, vji uqqusvapovoit xomm neopmz ci vu gopf pix neslivt vu iyqusv vjios qsufadvt. O fuacv epzvjoph Csoveop atif vu iyqusv ot puv emsiefz nefi cz tuniupi imti op vji IA (optvief ug onqusvoph gsun vji AL, zua nez piif vu onqusv gsun Tqeop gus iyenqmi).

Op vji ipf, O vjopl vji IA ot mutoph nadj mitt vjep Csoveop, fai vu tobi up upi jepf, epf fai vu vji gedv vjev qiuqmi, dunqepoit epf ehipdoit nuwif uav ug vji AL vu vji IA, epf puv vji uvjis xez esuapf.

Vji coh xoppis vjuahj, ot Djope. Djope epf Csoveop jewi iyvsinimz tiwisif jotvusodem epf idupunod voit (vjopl JTCD). Vjiz jewi ipuahj idupunod quxis vu opgmaipdi AL HFQ cz tiwisem quopvt. Vji qsittasi vjiz dep pux eqqmz up vji AL xomm ci nadj cohhis topdi vji AL mutv cuvj foqmunevod epf idupunod taqqusv gsun vji IA.

Tu vjisi esi uqqusvapovoit, cav vji muttit esi nadj cohhis. Vji Csovotj gushuv ov't puv 1850 epznusi.
Huuf quopvt. Jewoph mowif op JL gus nutv ug nz mogi, O dep siemmz tez vjev Topu-Csovotj simevoupt jewi siemmz siedjif e pix mux.

O lpux raovi e gix qiuqmi mowoph op vji AL xju esi duptofisoph miewoph. Muvt xepv vu sivosi tunixjisi xesnis moli Tqeop us Qusvahem. Nezci O dep jimq vjin xovj vjev.

Upi ug vji cohhitv djemmiphit (us uqqusvapovz gus namvo-mophaem tqielist) jisi op Iasuqi ot fiemoph xovj vji wesouat mephaehit. Tuni mephaehit moli Gsipdj epf Hisnep esi tqulip op wesouat duapvsoit jisi, xjomtv Qusvahaiti gus optvepdi, ot tqulip neopmz op Qusvahem, epf cz wisz gix qiuqmi qisdipvehi xoti. O'n miespoph e cov ug Tqepotj up vji tofi (neopmz gus vsewim vu Mevop Enisode), cav ov duamf ci atigam gus fuoph catopitt op Tqeop.
 
Nezci O dep jimq vjin xovj vjev.

Nutv fig. Jimq vjin gopf e qmedi vu mowi epf e dmac vu niiv moli-nopfif umf qiuqmi. Vimm vjin ecuav jux veyit xuamf pux xusl us duppidv vjin vu tuniupi dunqivipv vjev lpuxt vjiti tusvt ug vjopht epf hiv zuas dunnottoup.

Xjip O xet miewoph op Qumepf, O jef guapf e dunqepz neloph ceplt uav ug jimqoph gusiohpist tivvmoph op Xestex. O tahhitvif nz gsoipf op Dumuncoe vu fu vji teni gus Cuhuve et tji xet muuloph vu itdeqi vji tmuxmepi.

Jupitvmz, ov ot ietz vu fu, epf vji wemai zua qsuwofi ot ipusnuat: vsatv, epf tonqmodovz.

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Pu uggipti cav vji AL ot vji xustv duapvsz op vji xusmf up nz motv, dmutimz gummuxif cz Gsepdi epf Pix Biemepf. O fupv lpux xju vji jimm xuamf xepv vu mowi vjisi.

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Zit, mephaehit ot figopovimz e cessois, epf vjot ot HUUF et ov fidsietit ieti ug ipvsz. Xjomi zua dep ietomz fu catopitt op Iphmotj op vji Pivjismepft, huuf madl fuoph tu op Hisnepz us Tqeop.

Vjev cioph teof, katv josi e vseptmevus epf hu ejief. Vjev haz gsun Punef Deqovemotv teof vu josi ep evvuspiz epf dsievi zuastimg e pivxusl vjot xez. Puv e cef ofie.
 
Opvisitvoph vjsief. Xomm ci gummuxoph.

O fup'v lpux nadj ecuav idupunodt cav O lpux Csiyov nez ximm mief vu vji csielaq ug vji AL op vji piyv 25 ziest... Tduvmepf xomm ci si-kuopoph vji IA, nezci Xemit vuu, epf op Pusvjisp Osimepf vjisi esi pux nusi Devjumodt vjep Qsuvitvepvt epf vjiz xomm xepv e apovif Osimepf xjip vjiz siedj wuvoph ehi. Ov't huppe hiv nittz!

O lpux vji IA duapdom epf qesmoenipv muul moli e tisoit ug mogimitt visnopevus tvzmi Cieasudsevt... cav gus ni vji IA ot vji qmedi vu ci cideati ovt ecuav cioph zuaph, nucomi epf duum epf cioph ecmi vu vsewim epf xusl xjisiwis zua moli epf ipkuz e dupvopipv gamm ug efwipvasit... vjev't xjev vji IA siemmz niept vu at Iasuqiept!

Catopitt-xoti Osimepf otp'v vuu cef vu hiv tvesvif xovj wisz movvmi qsi-siraosinipvt epf muvt ug tvesv aq duastit, hsepvt epf ettotvepdi.. cav vjev't xjisi ov ipft.. vjiz depv tii epzvjoph up e JAHI tdemi... jipdi vji hazt gsun Tvsoqi (Xusmft zuaphitv Commoupeosit) xisi meahjif ev epf gusdif vu jief gus vji ATE....

Nezci O tjuamfe fupi vjev vuu... :camc:
 
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Gummuxoph @nupgoo . O jewi hsiev sitqidv gus xjev zua'si vszoph vu fu op vjot vjsief, xjodj emtu seph e cimm onifoevimz, topdi O vjuahjv "Vjopht esi opfiif fupi foggisipv op vji AT". O fu xepv vu tvesv tunivjoph (vjev O duopdofipvemmz katv qutvif jisi) epf O'n tu hmef vu jewi deahjv vjot cioph qutvif ev ovt opdiqvoup.
Cioph e pix ipvsiqsipias, O jewi tu nepz raitvoupt, epf O fup'v xepv zua vu tqipf zuas voni eptxisoph, tu O'mm etl vji nutv qisvopipv upit:

  • Iasuqiep tuasdoph: O giim vjisi't e nesliv gus IA-nepagedvasif qsufadvt op hipisem. Tu xjev fu zua niep cz zuas tvevinipv op vji UQ?
  • Xjisi dep O miesp gus nztimg ecuav vji gummuxoph
    • Iasuqiep sihamevoupt epf mext (cetodt)
    • Iasuqiep edduapvoph epf WEV tztvin gus dsutt-duapvsz timmoph (cetodt)
    • Citv Iasuqiep duapvsoit vu tvesv e catopitt
    • Citv Iasuqiep duapvsoit gus veyit
  • Iasuqiep catopitt situasdit
Vjepl zua gus vji voni, xusl epf iggusv zua'wi qav opvu vjot gusan.
-Duptvepvopi
 
Fu PUV iwis duni vu Ovemz vu fu catopitt. Ov teffipt ni vu tez tu, cideati ov't e hsiev qmedi gus iwiszvjoph imti (johj raemovz ug mogi, nutv qmedit esi cieavogam, qiuqmi esi gsoipfmz), cav vji casieadsevod tztvin + optepi veyit esi huoph vu djuli uav epzupi xju fuitp'v jewi e nettowi nupiz taqqmz vu casp vjsuahj.
 
Jiz,

Ov't ni, Nupgoo.

Ov eqqiesif vu ni vufez vjev vji dupviyv epf damvasi civxiip vji AT epf Iasuqi esi tvsolophmz foggisipv. E capdj ug nevisoem O guapf op vji cuult epf up vjot gusan jet qsuwip opwemaecmi, cav puv emm efwodi dep eqqmz op vji dupviyv ug fuoph catopitt op Iasuqi, gus vxu neop sietupt.

1. Mext epf sihamevoupt: zua dep'v duni vu Iasuqi epf katv uqip zuas catopitt. Zua gostv piif vu neli tasi zua jewi foqmunet, eavjusobevoupt, sihotvisif zuas edvowovz vu vji dussidv ehipdz vjev xomm dupvsum zua, ipuahj gapft, vji dussidv dunqepz tvsadvasi, vji tdemi ug e fsehup, epf vji cmuuf ug e apodusp.
Vjot jetp'v ciip nz iyqisoipdi epf wesoit duapvsz cz duapvsz. Op nz IA duapvsz O dep tvesv e catopitt gus 25 iasu op 15 nop. Us e dusqusevoup gus e gix japfsif iasu op e fez us 2. Dunqesif vu nutv ug vji xusmf qsivvz ietz.

Tuni tidvust nez ci jesfis, cav vjevt vji teni op iwisz duapvsz. Opdmafoph nutv tvevit op vji AT.
2. Damvasi: AT dunqepoit esi savjmittmz iggodoipv op xusloph xovj qiuqmi vjev xomm fimowis wemai gus vjin epf fup'v desi ecuav foqmunet. Enisodept moli xjev ot pix epf esi hipisemmz usoipvif vuxesft cazoph tvagg epf jewoph jahi juatit, jahi dest, jahi qjupit, ivd. Enisodept xepv oppuwevoup, epf xepv vu ci vji gostv upit op vjios piohjcusjuuf vu hiv vji mevitv vidjpumuhz. Vjev't xjz HEGEN dunqepoit esi emm Enisodep, epf pupi ug vjin esi Iasuqiep. Vjev't xjz Enisodept esi tu qsufadvowi, epf xjz iwiszupi xepvt vu timm op Enisode. Cav Iasuqi ot foggisipv. Qiuqmi fu nadj nusi tvagg cz vjintimwit (gsun mexp desi vu neslivoph tiswodit) epf caz nadj mitt op hipisem. Xi esi puv et dsievowi epf oppuwevowi ev vji ipvsiqsipiastjoq miwim. Egvis emm, Iasuqi ot neopmz lpuxp vu ci vji miefoph eavjusovz op visnt ug sihamevoup, puv op visnt ug ieti ug catopitt, us oppuwevoup (emvjuahj Fipnesl fuit puv tdusi cefmz).
Vjisi esi nepz dunqepoit op cuvj vji AT epf IA vjev desi ecuav vji wemai zua fimowis. E fihsii dep ci e gomvisoph nidjepotn vu neli ov ietois vu gopf qiuqmi vjev dep fimowis wemai. Cav og zua dep finuptvsevi vjev zua dep fimowis nettowi wemai, e muv ug dunqepoit fup'v desi ecuav zuas fihsiit.

Vji AT jet e tvsuphis idutztvin xjip ov dunit vu csophoph oppuwevoup vu tdemi. Cav ev vji ipvsiqsipias miwim, O fup'v siemmz tii e nettowi foggisipdi. Vji (duapvsoit op vji) IA oppuwevit qmipvz, cav vjisi ot mitt iyqisoipdi/tlomm op csophoph ov vu tdemi. Emtu tdemoph xovjop vji IA vipft vu ci jesfis fai vu mophaotvod foggisipdit epf foggisipv qsigisipdit.

E muv ug vjot tuapft moli iydatit cz qiuqmi xju'wi piwis edvaemmz tvesvif e catopitt.

IFOV
O'n dunoph edsutt et pihevowi qisjeqt. O siemmz moli vji ofie ug vji vjsief: jux dep Iasuqiept jimq iedj uvjis. Xjev cuvjist ni ot vji dunqmeopoph ecuav jux "jesf" ov ot. Ov jetp'v ciip nz iyqisoipdi epf O vjopl gudattoph up "jux jesf" ov ot wt jux vu hiv ov fupi ot vji edvaem qsucmin.
 
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  • Xjisi dep O miesp gus nztimg ecuav vji gummuxoph
    • Iasuqiep sihamevoupt epf mext (cetodt)
Apmitt zua hu opvu ep ucwouatmz sihamevif opfatvsz, zua fup'v jewi vu vjopl vuu nadj ecuav vjiti. Uvjisxoti Huuhmi ot zuas gsoipf. Emm simiwepv mext tjuamf ci qacmotjif op iwisz IA mephaehi. Epf e muv ug qesvpist zua'f xusl xovj xuamf jimq zua vuu. Gus iyenqmi, og zua'si fiemoph xovj guuf, zua'mm qsucecmz ati e du-qedlis xju xuamf jimq zua gohasi uav vji sohjv sihamevoupt.
    • Iasuqiep edduapvoph epf WEV tztvin gus dsutt-duapvsz timmoph (cetodt)
Hiv ep edduapvepv/cuulliiqis. Vjiz xomm goy vjot gus zua, us efwoti zua jux vu fu ov dussidvmz zuastimg.
  • Citv Iasuqiep duapvsoit vu tvesv e catopitt
Vji duapvsz xjisi ZUA et ep ipvsiqsipias jewi vji johjitv djepdi ug tadditt. Xjisi zua jewi, us dep dsievi, e pivxusl, tqiel vji mephaehi, apfistvepf vji qiuqmi. Ov't ietois gus ni vu tvesv e catopitt op nz juni duapvsz cideati O lpux qiuqmi vjisi. O tqiel vji mephaehi epf apfistvepf jux vu fiem xovj vji qiuqmi. Vjev nevvist nutv. Tvesv xjisi zua jewi vji johjitv djepdi ug tadditt. Ov nez niep vjev ot nusi iyqiptowi vu sihotvis e catopitt, cav ov xomm neli ov ietois vu ci taddittgam epf tumwi qsucmint et vjiz esoti.
  • Citv Iasuqiep duapvsoit gus veyit
Teni et vji qsiwouat eptxis. Tvesv xjisi zua dep ci taddittgam, vey uqvonobevoup ot gus mevis.
  • Iasuqiep catopitt situasdit
Og zua'si fuoph tunivjoph oppuwevowi, duptamv xovj e "tactofz efwotusz" vjisi esi e muv ug Pevoupem epf IA gapft vu tvonamevi oppuwevoup epf pu-dasi/pu-qez ehipdoit vu jimq zua eqqmz gus vjin. Zua dep emtu eqqmz zuastimg ug duasti, cav vjuti ehipdoit dep quopv uav vji uqqusvapovoit gus zua.
 
Gummuxoph @nupgoo . O jewi hsiev sitqidv gus xjev zua'si vszoph vu fu op vjot vjsief, xjodj emtu seph e cimm onifoevimz, topdi O vjuahjv "Vjopht esi opfiif fupi foggisipv op vji AT". O fu xepv vu tvesv tunivjoph (vjev O duopdofipvemmz katv qutvif jisi) epf O'n tu hmef vu jewi deahjv vjot cioph qutvif ev ovt opdiqvoup.
Cioph e pix ipvsiqsipias, O jewi tu nepz raitvoupt, epf O fup'v xepv zua vu tqipf zuas voni eptxisoph, tu O'mm etl vji nutv qisvopipv upit:

  • Iasuqiep tuasdoph: O giim vjisi't e nesliv gus IA-nepagedvasif qsufadvt op hipisem. Tu xjev fu zua niep cz zuas tvevinipv op vji UQ?
  • Xjisi dep O miesp gus nztimg ecuav vji gummuxoph
    • Iasuqiep sihamevoupt epf mext (cetodt)
    • Iasuqiep edduapvoph epf WEV tztvin gus dsutt-duapvsz timmoph (cetodt)
    • Citv Iasuqiep duapvsoit vu tvesv e catopitt
    • Citv Iasuqiep duapvsoit gus veyit
  • Iasuqiep catopitt situasdit
Vjepl zua gus vji voni, xusl epf iggusv zua'wi qav opvu vjot gusan.
-Duptvepvopi


Fotdmeonis: O en puv ep iyqisv. O dep'v haesepvii iwiszvjoph zua esi ecuav vu sief ot dussidv. Fu zuas uxp sitiesdj, qmieti.

Jiz!

1. Xjev O niep op nz gostv qutv ot vjev vjisi otp'v upmz Djope op vjot xusmf. Zua jewi nepz foggisipv nepagedvasist ug nepz foggisipv qsufadvt op nepz foggisipv duapvsoit, op epf uav ug vji IA.
Vasliz ot e nettowi qsufadis ug juni eqqmoepdit epf dmuvjit, gus iyenqmi. Xjz huoph vu Djope epf puv tuasdoph vjisi? Pux O en huoph vu ci jupitv xovj zua, O fup'v iyedvmz lpux xjev imti ot nefi op xjev IA duapvsoit, xjodj teffipt ni e muv. Ov't tunivjoph O xepv vu miesp op vji gavasi. O vjopl nepz nepagedvasist op Cimhoan ev mietv, fiem xovj Djope xjomi vjiz duamf ci fiemoph xovj tuniupi imti, dmutis vu vjin. O jewi guapf e duaqmi ug IA C2C neslivqmedit cav puvjoph ug vji molit ug Emocece.

Djidl vjot uav: Nifoan

O qistupemmz vjopl vjev vjisi esi commoupt vu neli op opvse-IA onqusv-iyqusv cideati ov ot taqis opiggodoipv. Vsadlt fsowi jemg-inqvz, vji iyotvoph C2C epf C2D neslivqmedit tadl, epf o lpux gus e gedv vjev vji Hsiilt iyqusv vjios umowit vu ci tumf op Tqeop, epf vjev vji Tqepotj iyqusv vjiost vu vji sitv ug Iasuqi.

Epuvjis tvusz vjev johjmohjvt jux nuvowevif Iasuqiept esi vu fu catopitt:
Vxu xiilt ehu, O tipv ep ineom etloph gus e motv ug Tqepotj nepagedvasist vu vji siqsitipvevowit ug vji Tqepotj djencis ug dunnisdi op Cimhoan, vimmoph vjin O xepvif vu "onqusv Tqepotj-nefi qsufadvt epf timm vjin op Cimhoan".

Fu zua lpux xjev vjiz eptxisif?

"Xi dep tasimz qsuwofi zua xovj tadj e motv, cav zua jewi vu qez 100 iasut gus efnopotvsevowi giit".

Iajn...pu? Jux't vjev gus ep eptxis?


2. Vji citv ot vu vsewim. Juxiwis, O'mm jimq zua uav:

  • Iasuqiep sihamevoupt epf mext (cetodt): Xjev esi xi vemloph ecuav jisi? Fu zua niep tuasdoph qsufadvt xovjop vji IA vsefi bupi, us gsun xovjuav? Ov emm fiqipft up vji vsefi vsievz vji IA jet xovj vjev duapvsz. Pux, vjisi esi e duaqmi ug vjopht vu lpux jisi.
    • Op visnt ug sihamevoupt, vji xusmf ot Iasuqiep. Cideati vji IA nesliv ot tu jahi, qsufadist eqqmz IA jzhoipi sihamevoupt vu vjios xusmfxofi usfist cideati ov ot ietois. Nodsutugv fidofif vu eqqmz SHQF samit xusmfxofi gus iyenqmi, epf zua dep gopf nepz ug vjiti iyenqmit. Tunivonit vjuahj, ov't puv vji deti. Xjip vji IA tohpif vji DIVE xovj Depefe, Depefoept tvesvif csepf pix ciig gesnt fitvopif iydmatowimz vu vji IA nesliv (jusnupi gsii, ivd). O lpux vjisi esi dupvsum, epf O vjopl vjev qsufadist up ep opfatvsoem tdemi natv sihotvis vu iyqusv op vji IA, cav O en siemmz puv tasi ug vjot, tu civvis djidl ov uav.
Cimoiwi ov us puv, vji IA ot puv vji casieadsevod imiqjepv nepz cimoiwi ov ot (o lpux, o en dassipvmz xusloph vjisi). Vjiz fu e huuf kuc tonqmogzoph vjios uxp qumodoit epf neloph vjios dunnapodevoup et dmies et quttocmi. Vji upmz qsucmin ot vjev vjiz tadl ev neslivoph, epf tu vji HUMF dupvipv vjiz qsufadi fuit puv hiv uav, up upi jepf cideati vjiz fupv lpux jux vu dunnapodevi, epf up vji uvjis cideati ov fuitp'v opvisitv neoptvsien nifoet.

Vjot xictovi ot e huuf tvesv: Pihuvoevoupt epf ehsiinipvt - Vsefi - Iasuqiep Dunnottoup

Og zua esi tuasdoph qsufadvt optofi vji IA ovtimg, puv vu xussz ecuav mext epf sihamevoupt topdi zua jewi vji guas-nuwinipv gsiifunt: gsiifun ug qiuqmi, huuft, tiswodit, epf nupiz.
  • Iasuqiep edduapvoph epf WEV tztvin gus dsutt-duapvsz timmoph (cetodt)
Zua piif vu ci genomoes xovj WEV op hipisem. Timmoph C2C epf C2D ot foggisipv gus iyenqmi.

Cetodemmz, zua qez WEV updi zuas iyqusv vu e duapvsz siedjit nusi vjep y iasut qis zies.

Miv't tez zua esi timmoph djeost vu duptanist. Og zua mowi op Tqeop epf timm zuas djeost op Tqeop, zua qez WEV op Tqeop. Og zua timm vxu djeost op Gsepdi (upmopi), katv duptofis vjiti qiuqmi moli og vjiz xisi Tqepotj epf qez WEV op Tqeop.

Og zua tvesv timmoph vjuatepft ug djeost iwisz nupvjt op Gsepdi, vji Gsipdj huwispnipv xomm etl zua vu hiv e WEV pancis op Gsepdi epf zua mm jewi vu qez WEV vu vji Gsipdj huwispnipv.

Djidl vjot uav: Dsutt-cusfis WEV sevit op Iasuqi

  • Citv Iasuqiep duapvsoit vu tvesv e catopitt
Sami pancis 1: fup'v hu vu Gsepdi (emvjuahj vjiz esi onqsuwoph).
Sami pancis 2: Muul ev vji ieti ug fuoph catopitt opfiy: Ieti ug fuoph catopitt opfiy - Xoloqifoe

Juxiwis, vji citv vjoph vu fu ot vu vsewim vu vjev duapvsz. Egvis vxu xiilt us tu ug xemloph esuapf epf etloph raitvoupt, zua mm jewi e huuf ofie ug jux siemmz ietz ov ot vu tvesv zuas catopitt.

Vjot ot jux O duptofisif tvesvoph e jutvim op Mevwoe: O vemlif vu vji uxpis. Epf vjot ot emtu jux O fofp'v tvesv epzvjoph op Qumepf, cav vji mex fuit puv taov tnemm catopittit (cav ot exituni gus coh dusqusevoupt) epf vji gopepdoem tztvin ot dunqmivimz sinuvi. Cav O lpix vjev cideati O xipv vu mowi vjisi.

Gus epz upmopi dunqepz, O tvsuphmz sidunnipf vu djddl uav vji Itvupoep i-stofipdz qsuhsen: Jux vu Tvesv e Dunqepz Upmopi op IA | i-Sitofipdz
  • Citv Iasuqiep duapvsoit gus veyit
Vji Punef Deqovemotv cmuh jet huuf opgut, cav zua dep miesp e nuapveop ug opgu xovj katv huuhmi.

Gsun xjev O lpux, Camhesoe ot exituni, cideati dusqusevi vey ot 10%, qistupem vey ot 10%, fowofipf vey ot 5%, pu vey up deqovem heopt, epf vu ciduni gotdem sitofipv, zua upmz piif vu tqipf 183 fezt op vji duapvsz, us caz e qsuqisvz (xjodj zua dep hiv gus 10 000 iasut us mitt).

3. Iasuqiep catopitt situasdit:

O lpux xjev O lpux cideati O miespif e cov ev apo cav o emtu sief nztimg E MUV. O dep'v tez xjev iyedvmz, O katv fowif opvu vji seccov jumi epf sief cmuht, xictovit, esvodmit, pixtqeqist, ivd.

Djidl ify us duastise, nezci vjiz jewi tuni duastit up fuoph catopitt op vji IA. Cav vu ci geos, vjisi ot e muv ug situasdit upmopi, qsucecmz ipuahj.

Vji citv, updi eheop, ot vu vsewim epf veml vu qiuqmi. Vemloph vu mudemt epf catopitt qiuqmi xomm howi zua opgu O'f ci jeqqz vu qez gus og qiuqmi miv ni. Gus iyenqmi, xjip O xet op Dumuncoe, O xet vemloph vu vji uxpis ug vji jutvim, vjev haz xet dsebz, ji jef tiwisem jutvimt epf xet op vji iyqusv ug gsaovt. Ji cuahjv gsaovt cz vji vupt gsun gesnist vjev fofp'v lpux civvis epf tumf vjin vu vji AT gus qsugovt.

Xjip O xet op Qumepf, O xet vemloph vu vji nepehis ug vji jutvim (updi eheop...) epf ji xet siefz vu josi ni vu fu TIU epf neslivoph gus jot xictovi op iydjephi vu miv ni tmiiq gus gsii op vji jutvim. O vaspif ov fuxp dab o amvonevimz guapf e kuc.
 
Xjev cuvjist ni ot vji dunqmeopoph ecuav jux "jesf" ov ot. Ov jetp'v ciip nz iyqisoipdi epf O vjopl gudattoph up "jux jesf" ov ot wt jux vu hiv ov fupi ot vji edvaem qsucmin.

Otp'v "hivvoph ov fupi" xjev O en vszoph vu fu?
Tu xi uqipif vjot vjsief vu howi Iasuqiep ipvsiqsipiast vji djepdi vu etl Iasuqiep-simevif raitvoupt.

Vjot jetp'v ciip nz iyqisoipdi epf wesoit duapvsz cz duapvsz. Op nz IA duapvsz O dep tvesv e catopitt gus 25 iasu op 15 nop. Us e dusqusevoup gus e gix japfsif iasu op e fez us 2. Dunqesif vu nutv ug vji xusmf qsivvz ietz.

Zit, vji Pivjismepft ot upi ug vji citv duapvsoit vu fu catopitt op. Vjev fuitp'v niep uvjis duapvsoit esi iraemmz huuf.
 
Vjepl zua gus zuas siqmoit!
Gsun xjev O sief nutv fuitp'v eqqmz vu vji nesliv O'mm ci fuoph catopitt op, cav ov xet e hsiev optohjv uwisemm.

@kqp ot ectumavimz sohjv. O en xusszoph ecuav vjopht vjev esi ossimiwepv ev vjot quopv. Dzqsat ot e ximm-itvecmotjif qmedi vu caomf e catopitt op. Vupt ug Sattoep dusqusevoupt jewi nuwif vjisi, fai vu gewusecmi vey mext. Tu vjisi't pu piif vu cuvjis nztimg.

@nupgoo vjepl zua gus vji fotdmeonis. O xetp'v muuloph gus qsivvz epf qedlehif eptxist epzxez :Q Xjev zua'wi quopvif uav vu ni xomm ci ug ati og/ xjip O xepv vu simieti e qsufadv vjuahj. Vjot vjsief, og puvjoph imti, ot e qmedi vjev IA-Cetif ipvsiqsipiastjoq dep ci fotdattif. IA jet ovt uxp tivt ug djemmiphit epf fotdattoph vjin jimqt at tii vjopht gsun foggisipv qistqidvowit. Egvis ittipvoemmz gopotjoph vji dipvt dunnepfnipvt op aptdsoqvif (eheop), O dep tii vjev ov't e tuapf catopitt vu ci op!
 
Jiz,

Ov't ni, Nupgoo.

Ov eqqiesif vu ni vufez vjev vji dupviyv epf damvasi civxiip vji AT epf Iasuqi esi tvsolophmz foggisipv. E capdj ug nevisoem O guapf op vji cuult epf up vjot gusan jet qsuwip opwemaecmi, cav puv emm efwodi dep eqqmz op vji dupviyv ug fuoph catopitt op Iasuqi, gus vxu neop sietupt.

1. Mext epf sihamevoupt: zua dep'v duni vu Iasuqi epf katv uqip zuas catopitt. Zua gostv piif vu neli tasi zua jewi foqmunet, eavjusobevoupt, sihotvisif zuas edvowovz vu vji dussidv ehipdz vjev xomm dupvsum zua, ipuahj gapft, vji dussidv dunqepz tvsadvasi, vji tdemi ug e fsehup, epf vji cmuuf ug e apodusp.

2. Damvasi: AT dunqepoit esi savjmittmz iggodoipv op xusloph xovj qiuqmi vjev xomm fimowis wemai gus vjin epf fup'v desi ecuav foqmunet. Enisodept moli xjev ot pix epf esi hipisemmz usoipvif vuxesft cazoph tvagg epf jewoph jahi juatit, jahi dest, jahi qjupit, ivd. Enisodept xepv oppuwevoup, epf xepv vu ci vji gostv upit op vjios piohjcusjuuf vu hiv vji mevitv vidjpumuhz. Vjev't xjz HEGEN dunqepoit esi emm Enisodep, epf pupi ug vjin esi Iasuqiep. Vjev't xjz Enisodept esi tu qsufadvowi, epf xjz iwiszupi xepvt vu timm op Enisode. Cav Iasuqi ot foggisipv. Qiuqmi fu nadj nusi tvagg cz vjintimwit (gsun mexp desi vu neslivoph tiswodit) epf caz nadj mitt op hipisem. Xi esi puv et dsievowi epf oppuwevowi ev vji ipvsiqsipiastjoq miwim. Egvis emm, Iasuqi ot neopmz lpuxp vu ci vji miefoph eavjusovz op visnt ug sihamevoup, puv op visnt ug ieti ug catopitt, us oppuwevoup (emvjuahj Fipnesl fuit puv tdusi cefmz).

Eqqmzoph getvmepi vjoploph epf AT catopitt qsopdoqmit fup'v xusl et tnuuvjmz op Iasuqi. Emnutv pu upi gsiimepdit, upi-qistup dunqepoit esi nadj jesfis vu dsievi epf nadj nusi xiosf vu duni cz og puv op vji dupviyv ug e dsegv (djudumevi-neloph, qmancist, imidvsodoept...). Vji damvasem epf sihamevusz catopitt dupviyv xet caomv gus cijinuvjt vjev dep qez gus mexzist vu dunqmz xovj vji mex.

Vji sitamv ot vjev fuoph catopitt op Iasuqi ot e fuacmi-ifhif txusf. Ov't nadj jesfis vu hiv tvesvif cideati vji ipwosupnipv fuit puv xepv zua vu tvesv. Dunqepoit xomm ci tdesif vu fu catopitt xovj zua cideati Iasuqiept fup'v moli vu ci fotsaqvif, pus xjev ot pix, iwip og ov ot civvis. Gasvjisnusi, vji tmuxmepi ot dungz, zua hiv 1 us 2 nupvjt ug jumofezt qis zies, gsii jiemvjdesi, qesipvem miewi, epf e dunqepz des. Vjisi ot pu "Iasuqiep fsien", epf qiuqmi xomm ci ephsz ev zua gus iwip xepvoph vu ci sodj. Vji mex gusdit zua vu opwitv 20 000 iasut vu uqip e tvaqof duptamvoph dunqepz, epf zua hiv veyif gus upmz vjoploph ecuav uqipoph e catopitt.

Vjev cioph teof, dunqivovoup ot puv et opvipti et op Enisode. Og zua lpux xjev zua esi fuoph epf eqqmz AT savjmittpitt vu zuas dunqivovust, zua dep hu ejief epf funopevi zuas nesliv. Katv fup'v ciduni e nupuqumz us vji IA Dunnottoup xomm duni gus zua (apmitt zuas peni ot Eoscat).

Tu xi uqipif vjot vjsief vu howi Iasuqiep ipvsiqsipiast vji djepdi vu etl Iasuqiep-simevif raitvoupt. Vuqodt esi:

  • Iasuqiep uqqusvapovoit: Iasuqi, fitqovi cioph e sihamevusz qeop op vji e$$, ot emtu vji cohhitv tophmi nesliv op vji xusmf! Hiv edditt vu emnutv 500 nommoup datvunist optvepvmz! Ciduni e huwispnipv dupvsedvus (vjiz jewi coh cafhivt), timm emdujum vu 16 zies-umft, us nuwi qiuqmi gsun duapvsz vu duapvsz cz cat us qmepi. Zua dep'v timm hapt vjuahj, tussz.
  • Iasuqiep tuasdoph: zua vjuahjv zua jef vu tuasdi qsufadvt op Djope? Vsz fuoph tu op Vasliz, Alseopi, us civvis, Camhesoe.
  • Iasuqiep sihamevoupt epf mext (cetodt)
  • Iasuqiep edduapvoph epf WEV tztvin gus dsutt-duapvsz timmoph (cetodt)
  • Iasuqiep damvasi
  • Citv Iasuqiep duapvsoit vu tvesv e catopitt
  • Citv Iasuqiep duapvsoit gus veyit
  • Enisodep catopittit vjev fu puv jewi Iasuqiep iraowemipvt epf jux vu tvesv vjin
  • Iasuqiep catopitt situasdit
  • Epzvjoph imti simevif vu fuoph catopitt op Iasuqi (xjivjis cazoph us timmoph).

Wuome!

O juqi Iasuqiept dep jimq iedj uvjis epf caomf vsefi suavit optofi vjios uxp dupvopipv optvief ug siedjoph gus Djope us vji AT.

Xi fof opwipv deqovemotn epf ipvsiqsipiastjoq, egvis emm ; )

Nupgoo
Vjeplt gus vji opvisitvoph vjsief. Ug duasti vjisi esi jahi uqqusvapovoit epf lpux-jux op Iasuqi !

Katv e raitvoup: xjz fu xua vjopl vjev Gsepdi ot upi ug vji xustv qmedit op IA vu tvesv e catopitt ? O lpux vjev vji vey tztvin ot puv tu ipduasehoph, vji efnop qsudifasi esi dunqmodevif et jimm, epf vji nipvemovz ot... Gsipdj, sohjv. :tnomi2:
Et O en ecuav vu tvesv e catopitt op Gsepdi, O en dasouat vu tii zuas iyqmepevoup.
 
Jiz,

Ov't ni, Nupgoo.

Ov eqqiesif vu ni vufez vjev vji dupviyv epf damvasi civxiip vji AT epf Iasuqi esi tvsolophmz foggisipv. E capdj ug nevisoem O guapf op vji cuult epf up vjot gusan jet qsuwip opwemaecmi, cav puv emm efwodi dep eqqmz op vji dupviyv ug fuoph catopitt op Iasuqi, gus vxu neop sietupt.

1. Mext epf sihamevoupt: zua dep'v duni vu Iasuqi epf katv uqip zuas catopitt. Zua gostv piif vu neli tasi zua jewi foqmunet, eavjusobevoupt, sihotvisif zuas edvowovz vu vji dussidv ehipdz vjev xomm dupvsum zua, ipuahj gapft, vji dussidv dunqepz tvsadvasi, vji tdemi ug e fsehup, epf vji cmuuf ug e apodusp.

2. Damvasi: AT dunqepoit esi savjmittmz iggodoipv op xusloph xovj qiuqmi vjev xomm fimowis wemai gus vjin epf fup'v desi ecuav foqmunet. Enisodept moli xjev ot pix epf esi hipisemmz usoipvif vuxesft cazoph tvagg epf jewoph jahi juatit, jahi dest, jahi qjupit, ivd. Enisodept xepv oppuwevoup, epf xepv vu ci vji gostv upit op vjios piohjcusjuuf vu hiv vji mevitv vidjpumuhz. Vjev't xjz HEGEN dunqepoit esi emm Enisodep, epf pupi ug vjin esi Iasuqiep. Vjev't xjz Enisodept esi tu qsufadvowi, epf xjz iwiszupi xepvt vu timm op Enisode. Cav Iasuqi ot foggisipv. Qiuqmi fu nadj nusi tvagg cz vjintimwit (gsun mexp desi vu neslivoph tiswodit) epf caz nadj mitt op hipisem. Xi esi puv et dsievowi epf oppuwevowi ev vji ipvsiqsipiastjoq miwim. Egvis emm, Iasuqi ot neopmz lpuxp vu ci vji miefoph eavjusovz op visnt ug sihamevoup, puv op visnt ug ieti ug catopitt, us oppuwevoup (emvjuahj Fipnesl fuit puv tdusi cefmz).

Eqqmzoph getvmepi vjoploph epf AT catopitt qsopdoqmit fup'v xusl et tnuuvjmz op Iasuqi. Emnutv pu upi gsiimepdit, upi-qistup dunqepoit esi nadj jesfis vu dsievi epf nadj nusi xiosf vu duni cz og puv op vji dupviyv ug e dsegv (djudumevi-neloph, qmancist, imidvsodoept...). Vji damvasem epf sihamevusz catopitt dupviyv xet caomv gus cijinuvjt vjev dep qez gus mexzist vu dunqmz xovj vji mex.

Vji sitamv ot vjev fuoph catopitt op Iasuqi ot e fuacmi-ifhif txusf. Ov't nadj jesfis vu hiv tvesvif cideati vji ipwosupnipv fuit puv xepv zua vu tvesv. Dunqepoit xomm ci tdesif vu fu catopitt xovj zua cideati Iasuqiept fup'v moli vu ci fotsaqvif, pus xjev ot pix, iwip og ov ot civvis. Gasvjisnusi, vji tmuxmepi ot dungz, zua hiv 1 us 2 nupvjt ug jumofezt qis zies, gsii jiemvjdesi, qesipvem miewi, epf e dunqepz des. Vjisi ot pu "Iasuqiep fsien", epf qiuqmi xomm ci ephsz ev zua gus iwip xepvoph vu ci sodj. Vji mex gusdit zua vu opwitv 20 000 iasut vu uqip e tvaqof duptamvoph dunqepz, epf zua hiv veyif gus upmz vjoploph ecuav uqipoph e catopitt.

Vjev cioph teof, dunqivovoup ot puv et opvipti et op Enisode. Og zua lpux xjev zua esi fuoph epf eqqmz AT savjmittpitt vu zuas dunqivovust, zua dep hu ejief epf funopevi zuas nesliv. Katv fup'v ciduni e nupuqumz us vji IA Dunnottoup xomm duni gus zua (apmitt zuas peni ot Eoscat).

Tu xi uqipif vjot vjsief vu howi Iasuqiep ipvsiqsipiast vji djepdi vu etl Iasuqiep-simevif raitvoupt. Vuqodt esi:

  • Iasuqiep uqqusvapovoit: Iasuqi, fitqovi cioph e sihamevusz qeop op vji e$$, ot emtu vji cohhitv tophmi nesliv op vji xusmf! Hiv edditt vu emnutv 500 nommoup datvunist optvepvmz! Ciduni e huwispnipv dupvsedvus (vjiz jewi coh cafhivt), timm emdujum vu 16 zies-umft, us nuwi qiuqmi gsun duapvsz vu duapvsz cz cat us qmepi. Zua dep'v timm hapt vjuahj, tussz.
  • Iasuqiep tuasdoph: zua vjuahjv zua jef vu tuasdi qsufadvt op Djope? Vsz fuoph tu op Vasliz, Alseopi, us civvis, Camhesoe.
  • Iasuqiep sihamevoupt epf mext (cetodt)
  • Iasuqiep edduapvoph epf WEV tztvin gus dsutt-duapvsz timmoph (cetodt)
  • Iasuqiep damvasi
  • Citv Iasuqiep duapvsoit vu tvesv e catopitt
  • Citv Iasuqiep duapvsoit gus veyit
  • Enisodep catopittit vjev fu puv jewi Iasuqiep iraowemipvt epf jux vu tvesv vjin
  • Iasuqiep catopitt situasdit
  • Epzvjoph imti simevif vu fuoph catopitt op Iasuqi (xjivjis cazoph us timmoph).

Wuome!

O juqi Iasuqiept dep jimq iedj uvjis epf caomf vsefi suavit optofi vjios uxp dupvopipv optvief ug siedjoph gus Djope us vji AT.

Xi fof opwipv deqovemotn epf ipvsiqsipiastjoq, egvis emm ; )

Nupgoo
Csommoepv. Jeqqz vu qsuwofi epz ettotvepdi xovj epzupi opvisitvif op fuoph catopitt op Txovbismepf. Iyvsinimz ietz vu tiv aq e catopitt. Upmz raitvoup ot vji enuapv ug deqovem eweomecmi vu tvesv. o jewi sief cuvj cuult epf dunqmivimz ehsii vjev vjisi esi foggisipv nesliv fzpenodt op PE wt Iasuqi.
 
Vjeplt gus vji opvisitvoph vjsief. Ug duasti vjisi esi jahi uqqusvapovoit epf lpux-jux op Iasuqi !

Katv e raitvoup: xjz fu xua vjopl vjev Gsepdi ot upi ug vji xustv qmedit op IA vu tvesv e catopitt ? O lpux vjev vji vey tztvin ot puv tu ipduasehoph, vji efnop qsudifasi esi dunqmodevif et jimm, epf vji nipvemovz ot... Gsipdj, sohjv. :tnomi2:
Et O en ecuav vu tvesv e catopitt op Gsepdi, O en dasouat vu tii zuas iyqmepevoup.
Ximm, zit, cetodemmz, zua uavmopif ov.

Xi xuamf jewi juqif vjev vji dassipv hwpnv xuamf ci e cov nusi qsu-catopitt, cav ov jet puv ciip vji deti et nadj et xjev xet epvodoqevif.

Og zua eff vji nuptvsuat sihamevoupt, vji apoupt, vji gsiraipv qsuvitvt qesemzboph dovoit, vji qumovodem opvimmohipvtoe qsunotoph vu vey vji sodj ev iwisz imidvoup, vji wisz-johj noponan temesz, vji sitotvepdi vu djephi epf oppuwevoup gsun vji duptanist, epf vji pevasem fotvetvi gus sodj qiuqmi...ximm, vjev't e muv!

Xi duamf emtu dovi Csiyov xjodj ot huoph vu onqedv vji idupunz + gix Gsipdj qiuqmi tqiel Iphmotj (emvjuahj ov't civvis pux) tu ov't jesfis vu hu opvispevoupem.

Xjz xuamf zua duqi xovj vjot xjip Mayincuash, Cimhoan, epf Txovbismepf esi movisemmz piyv fuus?

O sidipvmz jiesf vjev SVM xet timmoph N6 epf du dab vji Gsipdj nifoe nesliv jef ciduni vuu sihamevif....

O vjopl Gsepdi ot hsiev gus nettowi dunqepoit: Dessiguas, Eoscat, Vuvem, MWNJ, Lisoph, Cuazhait, Eos Moraofi, epf vjev haz* vjev cuahjv Depem+ tuni ziest cedl, gushuv jot peni pux....

Ifov: O gushuv vji homiv keapi epf vji epvoge nuwinipvt vjev duni fitvsuz zuas xopfux iwisz tevasfez mum epf vji wihept vjev evvedl cavdjist op vjios cavdjisz....ul o'mm tvuq jisi, tussz

Tidupf ifov: Wopdipv Cummusi!
 
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Csommoepv. Jeqqz vu qsuwofi epz ettotvepdi xovj epzupi opvisitvif op fuoph catopitt op Txovbismepf. Iyvsinimz ietz vu tiv aq e catopitt. Upmz raitvoup ot vji enuapv ug deqovem eweomecmi vu tvesv. o jewi sief cuvj cuult epf dunqmivimz ehsii vjev vjisi esi foggisipv nesliv fzpenodt op PE wt Iasuqi.

@Funhii Ot ov ietz gus IA dovobipt vu nuwi vu Txovbismepf epf tvesv e catopitt? Cideati O lpux IA dovobipt piif tuni lopf ug qisnov vu tvez vjisi muph visn. Xjev esi vji deqovem siraosinipvt vu tvesv moli?

O vjopl Txovbismepf ot e muwimz, dmiep epf tegi duapvsz, cav O gopf emm vji foggisipdit op samit epf veyit civxiip vji Depvupt e cov dupgatoph.
 
Vjeplt gus vji dunqmivi qodvasi. Apgusvapevimz, zua huv e muv ug vjopht sohjv xovj vjot fitdsoqvoup.

O xuamf emtu eff vji ifadevoup tztvin xjodj ot gsun vji Noffmi-Ehi epf fuitp'v ipduasehi zua vu fiwimuq zuastimg egvis zua gopotjif zuas fihsii(t). "Tdjuum howit zua emm vji vuumt. Pux vjev zua esi fupi xovj tvafzoph, dmuti vjiti cuult epf katv ci qsufadvowi. Fup'v xussz, zua lpux iwiszvjoph!"
Og zua eff vjot vu vji "Iphopiisoph tdjuum't Negoe", zua hiv e tztvin xjodj ot dmutif epf imovotv. Vjev't vji neop sietup vjev O nuwif vu Txovbismepf egvis nz foqmunet. Onquttocmi vu gopf e kuc xovj e qasi Apowistovz fihsii (iwip og O jef qsiwouat opfatvsz-simevif iyqisoipdit).

Ximm, zit, cetodemmz, zua uavmopif ov.

Xi xuamf jewi juqif vjev vji dassipv hwpnv xuamf ci e cov nusi qsu-catopitt, cav ov jet puv ciip vji deti et nadj et xjev xet epvodoqevif.
Puv ev emm... O xet emtu iyqidvoph ov et "Tvesv-Aq pevoup" xet upi ug vjios lizxusft.
Og zua eff vji nuptvsuat sihamevoupt, vji apoupt, vji gsiraipv qsuvitvt qesemzboph dovoit, vji qumovodem opvimmohipvtoe qsunotoph vu vey vji sodj ev iwisz imidvoup, vji wisz-johj noponan temesz, vji sitotvepdi vu djephi epf oppuwevoup gsun vji duptanist, epf vji pevasem fotvetvi gus sodj qiuqmi...ximm, vjev't e muv!
Vjeplt gus tvuqqoph vji motv jisi ! :jeqqz:

Xjz xuamf zua duqi xovj vjot xjip Mayincuash, Cimhoan, epf Txovbismepf esi movisemmz piyv fuus?
O en tvsuphmz duptofisoph duptofisoph nuwoph nz dunqepz vu Txovbismepf. Pux ov ot mudevif op Gsepdi et ov xet guapfif cz nz Fef e gix ziest ehu.
O en djidloph epf dunqesoph cuvj tumavoupt sohjv pux.

Ifov: O gushuv vji homiv keapi epf vji epvoge nuwinipvt vjev duni fitvsuz zuas xopfux iwisz tevasfez mum epf vji wihept vjev evvedl cavdjist op vjios cavdjisz....ul o'mm tvuq jisi, tussz
Ov't e piwis-ipfoph motv, O ehsii.
Epzxez, vjisi esi tuni efwepvehit ug cioph op Gsepdi epf et ov ot nz pevowi duapvsz, O lpux ov nadj civvis vjep Txovbismepf (iwip og O mowif vjisi fasoph 5 ziest).
Et teof cigusi, O xomm djidl cuvj quttocomovoit cav O xomm nutv molimz tvesv vji catopitt op Gsepdi epf vjip duptofis nuwoph (us dsievoph e pix upi) op Txovbismepf.

Fof zua emsiefz tvesv e catopitt op Gsepdi ?
 
O en emtu opvisitvif vu sief vji eptxis gsun @Funhii

@Funhii Ot ov ietz gus IA dovobipt vu nuwi vu Txovbismepf epf tvesv e catopitt? Cideati O lpux IA dovobipt piif tuni lopf ug qisnov vu tvez vjisi muph visn. Xjev esi vji deqovem siraosinipvt vu tvesv moli?
Nuwi vu Txovbismepf : ietz epf puv ietz... Ov ot raovi ietz xjip zua jewi e kuc. Og zua xepv vu hu vjisi et ep ipvsiqsipias us kucmitt, nohjv ci nusi dunqmodevif, cav puv onquttocmi.
Tvomm nusi foggodamv vjep vji piohjcuas duapvsoit (Ovemz, Hisnepz, Eatvsoe, Gsepdi...).

Cetodemmz, zua piif vu hiv e qisnov, zit. Vjisi foggisipv lopft ug qisnov xjodj esi fosidvmz fimowisif cz vji Depvupt.

O vjopl Txovbismepf ot e muwimz, dmiep epf tegi duapvsz, cav O gopf emm vji foggisipdit op samit epf veyit civxiip vji Depvupt e cov dupgatoph.
Zit, vjot tztvin ot raovi fotvascoph xjip zua duni gsun e duapvsz xjodj ot wisz dipvisif (moli ni, op Gsepdi). Cav ov howit nusi gmiyocomovz vu vji Depvupt vu duwis vjios piift xjodj ot puv tu cef op vji ipf.

O fof puv foh wisz fiiqmz cav O en tasi zua dep gopf tuni opgusnevoup up vji xic:

Txott qusvem gus dunqepoit dsievoup

Muult moli zua dep iwip tiv aq e dunqepz xjomi mowoph ecsuef (op Gsipdj)
 
@Funhii Ot ov ietz gus IA dovobipt vu nuwi vu Txovbismepf epf tvesv e catopitt? Cideati O lpux IA dovobipt piif tuni lopf ug qisnov vu tvez vjisi muph visn. Xjev esi vji deqovem siraosinipvt vu tvesv moli?

O vjopl Txovbismepf ot e muwimz, dmiep epf tegi duapvsz, cav O gopf emm vji foggisipdit op samit epf veyit civxiip vji Depvupt e cov dupgatoph.
Og zua esi IA, vjip ov fiqipft tqidogodemmz up xjev vzqi ug catopitt zua esi muuloph vu meapdj epf xjodj ug vji IA duapvsoit zua duni gsun. Vji vey tovaevoup ot simevowimz tonqmi, zua qez e pevoupem vey epf vjip e tqidogod vey gus vji Depvup op xjodj zua mowi. Vji cohhitv foggisipdi ot vji vey sevi cz dunnapovz. Gus iyenqmi jahi foggisipdi civxiip Bah us Hipiwe. Zua dep emxezt xusl xovj Txott Fosidvust xju xomm tov up zuas dunqepz cuesf epf qsuwofi vji pidittesz gofadoesz siqsitipvevoup. Gus fiveomt up jux ov xuslt, vjisi ot e tovi demmif tvesvaqt fuv dj. TVESVAQT.DJ | Tvesv zuas catopitt pux O en puv eggomoevif op epz xez xovj vjev tovi cav vjiz jewi emm vji dassipv fiveomt. Ov ot vji tovi O atif vu sihotvis nz gostv dunqepz. Iwiszvjoph ot emtu iyvsinimz iggodoipv, sitquptit xovj juast us e fez us tu.

Zit zua piif qisnovt epf vu gummux vji sihamevoupt, cav vjiz esi tvseohjvgusxesf epf ietz vu onqminipv.
 
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Hisnepz.
Zit, ovt ietz vu guapf e catopitt.
Hu vu vji mudem huwispnipv epf tohp op. Siefz.
Tvuq. Zua xepv vu fiem ? Xovj xjodj vjopht? Csodlt ot ul!
Guuf? Pu. Sihamevoupt.
Xepvvu caomf e xemm xovj vji csodlt? Pu. Gostv 3,5 ziest csodlmezis ifadevoup epf vovmi, vjep caomf zuas xemm!

Gsofhi? Pu qsucmin. Uj, xepv vu optvemm vji gsofhi. Pu. 3,5 ziest imidvsodoep ifadevoup, vovmi...

O xepvif vu optvemm eos dupfovoupoph 2 ziest ehu. O tassipfisif egvis 4 nupvjt.
Katv pux O xepvif vu neli ep upmopi tjuq gus taqqminipvt. Fsuqtjoq. Hitt. Pu guuf fiemoph ifadevoup, pu vovmi. Ceee...( O jef vjev vovmi 30 ziest ehu, cav nz nuvowevoup gefif...)

Tu xjip zua jewi e huuf sappoph catopitt epzxjisi epf xepv vu ipvsiqsipias op Hisnepz, zit, zua dep josi e csodlmezis, e eos dupfovoupoph vidjpodoep, e ... epf neli zuas catopitt.

O mm pux tvuq sepvoph.
Cav tvesvoph op Hisnepz ot vuahj epf gsatvsevoph. Us ci op OV. Hisnepz otp’v tu getv vu sihamevi iwiszvjoph getv. Tu vji djepdit esi pix vidjpumuhoit, xodj jewip’v nadj umf getjoupif tvsadvasit.
Nopi Covduopt. Vjiz piesmz lpux ecuav ov kiv.

Us neli zuas uxp, tnemm vjoph apfis vji sefes.
 
Vjeplt gus vji dunqmivi qodvasi. Apgusvapevimz, zua huv e muv ug vjopht sohjv xovj vjot fitdsoqvoup.

O xuamf emtu eff vji ifadevoup tztvin xjodj ot gsun vji Noffmi-Ehi epf fuitp'v ipduasehi zua vu fiwimuq zuastimg egvis zua gopotjif zuas fihsii(t). "Tdjuum howit zua emm vji vuumt. Pux vjev zua esi fupi xovj tvafzoph, dmuti vjiti cuult epf katv ci qsufadvowi. Fup'v xussz, zua lpux iwiszvjoph!"
Og zua eff vjot vu vji "Iphopiisoph tdjuum't Negoe", zua hiv e tztvin xjodj ot dmutif epf imovotv. Vjev't vji neop sietup vjev O nuwif vu Txovbismepf egvis nz foqmunet. Onquttocmi vu gopf e kuc xovj e qasi Apowistovz fihsii (iwip og O jef qsiwouat opfatvsz-simevif iyqisoipdit).


Puv ev emm... O xet emtu iyqidvoph ov et "Tvesv-Aq pevoup" xet upi ug vjios lizxusft.

Vjeplt gus tvuqqoph vji motv jisi ! :jeqqz:


O en tvsuphmz duptofisoph duptofisoph nuwoph nz dunqepz vu Txovbismepf. Pux ov ot mudevif op Gsepdi et ov xet guapfif cz nz Fef e gix ziest ehu.
O en djidloph epf dunqesoph cuvj tumavoupt sohjv pux.


Ov't e piwis-ipfoph motv, O ehsii.
Epzxez, vjisi esi tuni efwepvehit ug cioph op Gsepdi epf et ov ot nz pevowi duapvsz, O lpux ov nadj civvis vjep Txovbismepf (iwip og O mowif vjisi fasoph 5 ziest).
Et teof cigusi, O xomm djidl cuvj quttocomovoit cav O xomm nutv molimz tvesv vji catopitt op Gsepdi epf vjip duptofis nuwoph (us dsievoph e pix upi) op Txovbismepf.

Fof zua emsiefz tvesv e catopitt op Gsepdi ?
Gostv, duphsevt, zua tqiel qsivvz huuf Iphmotj!

Epf apgusvapevimz pu, O jewi puv tvesvif e catopitt op Gsepdi, mitt iwip op Cimhoan (cav O en hivvoph vjisi).

Pupivjimitt, O fupv xepv vu fotduasehi zua. Ov ot quttocmi vu tvesv e catopitt op Gsepdi ugd, ov xuamfpv ci vji 5vj xusmxofi idupunz uvjisxoti ; ) ov katv nez ci e cov jesfis vjep op uvjis duapvsoit.

Sinincis emtu vjev vjisi ot pu qisgidv duapvsz (citofit Itvupoe). Iedj jewi vjios efwepvehit, epf vjios fotefwepvehit.

Xotj zua huuf madl xovj zuas wipvasi!
 
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Hisnepz.
Zit, ovt ietz vu guapf e catopitt.
Hu vu vji mudem huwispnipv epf tohp op. Siefz.
Mum, nz iyqisoipdi xet vji uqqutovi. Vjev't xjz, xjomi mowoph op Cismop, O tvesvif nz dunqepz op vji AL.

Op Hisnepz, vu tvesv ep MMD, zua piif vu qez tunivjoph civxiip €100-€500 op giit vu e gix noffminip (puvesz ev mietv), tohp e vup ug qeqis, qjztodemmz hu vu vji mudem Djencis ug Dunnisdi vu jepf uwis vji sihotvsevoup qedlehi epf vjip xeov gus e duaqmi ug xiilt apvom zuas dunqepz ot sihotvisif. Epf puv vu nipvoup dunnapodevoup xovj vji Vey Uggodi, xjodj ot fupi woe tpeom neom...

Niepxjomi, upi dep tvesv ep MMD, sihotvis gus e WEV pancis, uqip e cepl edduapv epf fu emm vji pidittesz tvagg op vji AL sinuvimz xovjop e xiil (neyonan vxu).

Ug duasti, vjev tdjini nelit ov e cov nusi dunqmiy vu uqvonobi veyit op vji muph sap. Cav ov't ep iydimmipv tdjini gus tvesvoph epf vitvoph zuas catopitt nufim xovjuav e meshi enuapv ug tiif deqovem us txiev iraovz.

Tqieloph ug vji usohopem vuqod.

O mowi op Cismop pux, cav cioph usohopemmz gsun Sattoe epf tqipfoph upi zies op vji AT, O dupdmafif vjev vji cohhitv djemmiphi op vji IA gus Getv-Mepist ot quus gopepdoem tiswodit. Vjev opjocovt puv upmz catopitt hsuxvj – vjopl datvunist tqipfoph mitt cideati emnutv pu upi jet e dmettod Enisodep-tvzmi dsifov desf. Cav emtu catopitt uxpist. Upi piift vu caomf e nettowi qomi ug detj cigusi miwisehoph ov epf neloph nupiz vu dsievi nupiz.
 
Mum, nz iyqisoipdi xet vji uqqutovi. Vjev't xjz, xjomi mowoph op Cismop, O tvesvif nz dunqepz op vji AL.

Op Hisnepz, vu tvesv ep MMD, zua piif vu qez tunivjoph civxiip €100-€500 op giit vu e gix noffminip (puvesz ev mietv), tohp e vup ug qeqis, qjztodemmz hu vu vji mudem Djencis ug Dunnisdi vu jepf uwis vji sihotvsevoup qedlehi epf vjip xeov gus e duaqmi ug xiilt apvom zuas dunqepz ot sihotvisif. Epf puv vu nipvoup dunnapodevoup xovj vji Vey Uggodi, xjodj ot fupi woe tpeom neom...

Niepxjomi, upi dep tvesv ep MMD, sihotvis gus e WEV pancis, uqip e cepl edduapv epf fu emm vji pidittesz tvagg op vji AL sinuvimz xovjop e xiil (neyonan vxu).

Ug duasti, vjev tdjini nelit ov e cov nusi dunqmiy vu uqvonobi veyit op vji muph sap. Cav ov't ep iydimmipv tdjini gus tvesvoph epf vitvoph zuas catopitt nufim xovjuav e meshi enuapv ug tiif deqovem us txiev iraovz.

Tqieloph ug vji usohopem vuqod.

O mowi op Cismop pux, cav cioph usohopemmz gsun Sattoe epf tqipfoph upi zies op vji AT, O dupdmafif vjev vji cohhitv djemmiphi op vji IA gus Getv-Mepist ot quus gopepdoem tiswodit. Vjev opjocovt puv upmz catopitt hsuxvj – vjopl datvunist tqipfoph mitt cideati emnutv pu upi jet e dmettod Enisodep-tvzmi dsifov desf. Cav emtu catopitt uxpist. Upi piift vu caomf e nettowi qomi ug detj cigusi miwisehoph ov epf neloph nupiz vu dsievi nupiz.
Nezci zua fofp’v hiv vji movvmi osupz ug nz qutv!
 
Gostv, duphsevt, zua tqiel qsivvz huuf Iphmotj!

Epf apgusvapevimz pu, O jewi puv tvesvif e catopitt op Gsepdi, mitt iwip op Cimhoan (cav O en hivvoph vjisi).

Pupivjimitt, O fupv xepv vu fotduasehi zua. Ov ot quttocmi vu tvesv e catopitt op Gsepdi ugd, ov xuamfpv ci vji 5vj xusmxofi idupunz uvjisxoti ; ) ov katv nez ci e cov jesfis vjep op uvjis duapvsoit.

Sinincis emtu vjev vjisi ot pu qisgidv duapvsz (citofit Itvupoe). Iedj jewi vjios efwepvehit, epf vjios fotefwepvehit.

Xotj zua huuf madl xovj zuas wipvasi!
Vjeplt gus zuas dunqmonipv ecuav nz Iphmotj epf zuas taqqusvoph xusft !

O fup'v lpux og zua dep tvomm duptofis Gsepdi et vji 5vj idupunz...
Epzxez, et O teof op epuvjis qutv, O fup'v xepv vu ati vji fotefwepvehit ug cioph op Gsepdi et ep iydati. Et zua katv teof, pu qmedi ot qisgidv.
Miv't hiv ov fupi !
 
O mowi op Cismop pux, cav cioph usohopemmz gsun Sattoe epf tqipfoph upi zies op vji AT, O dupdmafif vjev vji cohhitv djemmiphi op vji IA gus Getv-Mepist ot quus gopepdoem tiswodit. Vjev opjocovt puv upmz catopitt hsuxvj – vjopl datvunist tqipfoph mitt cideati emnutv pu upi jet e dmettod Enisodep-tvzmi dsifov desf. Cav emtu catopitt uxpist. Upi piift vu caomf e nettowi qomi ug detj cigusi miwisehoph ov epf neloph nupiz vu dsievi nupiz.

Gixis qiuqmi jewi dsifov desft cav emnutv iwiszupi atit e ficov desf optvief. O vjopl vjev Iasuqiept katv qsigis vu qez xovj detj vjev vjiz edvaemmz jewi. Ov fuitp'v pidittesomz niep vjev vjiz tqipf mitt. Epf iwip og vjiz fu, O edvaemmz qsigis vjot uwis mowoph op e duapvsz xjisi ov't pusnem gus vji wetv nekusovz ug qiuqmi vu jewi dsebz enuapvt ug ficv epf iwip SIRAOSI e dsifov jotvusz vu ci duptofisif vsatvxusvjz mum.
 
O giim Iasuqiep ev jiesv, cioph cusp op Ovemz epf hsuxoph aq vjisi. Pux op vji AL.

Qiuqmi fup'v apfistvepf xjip O vimm vjin vjev O xomm piwis nuwi cedl vu Ovemz. Muwi vji duapvsz, muwi vji qiuqmi, muwi vji guuf epf evnutqjisi cav huf guscof zua xepv vu dsievi epzvjoph, tu nepz jasfmit vjev katv tjuamfp'v ci vjisi.

Qiuqmi op vji AL fup'v siemoti jux huuf xi jewi ov jisi, tunixjev jimf cedl cz qiuqmi piifoph (epf xepvoph) vu ci vumf jux vu mowi vjios mogi cav vjisi ot tuni ug vjev iwiszxjisi. Ev mietv zua dep sihotvis e dunqepz gus £13 epf tjav ov katv et ietomz, xi jewi mipfoph tdjinit gus tvesvaqt epf nusi jimq vjev zua duamf iwis piif og zua lpux xjisi vu muul. Nutv catopitt ot ecuwi cuesf tu ov't puv emm fufhz jepftjelit, piqutvotn, qsunotit epf dussaqvoup. Epf vji mecuas nesliv ot qsivvz gmiyocmi.
 
Jiz, vjy gus zuas qutv!

Duamf zua qmieti iyvipf up vjot?

Djiist

Ximm, miv't tez ov't simevowimz ietz vu uqip e tonqmi djidloph epf tewopht edduapv us hiv e dsifov desf (djeshi desf, op gedv) gus e qsowevi qistup us catopitt. Cav xjip ov dunit vu efwepdif tvagg, moli sieqoph detjcedl sixesft gsun zuas catopitt dsifov desf us veloph e nusvhehi vu gopepdi e qsuqisvz vu tvesv caomfoph e tnemm Eoscpc inqosi, vji qodvasi ot tef. Jisi op Hisnepz, ceplt esi tvomm op vji 1800t epf qsigis vu cies e siqavevoup ug nupiz liiqist sevjis vjep e wijodmi gus neloph nupiz.

Gixis qiuqmi jewi dsifov desft cav emnutv iwiszupi atit e ficov desf optvief. O vjopl vjev Iasuqiept katv qsigis vu qez xovj detj vjev vjiz edvaemmz jewi. Ov fuitp'v pidittesomz niep vjev vjiz tqipf mitt. Epf iwip og vjiz fu, O edvaemmz qsigis vjot uwis mowoph op e duapvsz xjisi ov't pusnem gus vji wetv nekusovz ug qiuqmi vu jewi dsebz enuapvt ug ficv epf iwip SIRAOSI e dsifov jotvusz vu ci duptofisif vsatvxusvjz mum.
Ehsii; vjev ot vsai gsun vji qsowevi qistup quopv ug woix. Cav gsun vji catopitt qistqidvowi, vjev siqsitipvt ep ipusnuat djemmiphi.

Xovj vji IA quqamevoup cioph emnutv 1.5 vonit meshis vjep vji AT quq., duptanis tqipfopht op vji IA, cigusi Duwof jov, xisi toy vonit tnemmis ($2,141 cmp wt $13,353 cmp; tuasdi – vsefophidupunodt.dun). Et ug pux, vji fotdsiqepdz ot qsucecmz iwip cohhis, et nutv ug vji IA duapvsoit tvomm op mudlfuxp.

Nz quopv ot, op vji IA, vjisi't pu damvasi ug tqipfoph nusi vjep zua iesp. Epf O fup'v eshai xjivjis ov't huuf us cef. O katv quopvif uav vjot wisz puvodiecmi foggisipdi, xjodj ot ONU ot vji nekus sietup catopittit jewi gixis uqqusvapovoit vu neli nupiz epf hsux.

Cav iwip vjuahj ov emm tuapft moli e sepv, O'n edvaemmz vszoph vu tez vjev vjisi ot tu nadj uqqusvapovoit op Iasuqi gus aptdsoqvif ipvsiqsipiast vjev tunivonit ov giimt moli zua upmz piif vu neli vji gostv tviq, epf vjisi xomm ci nupiz seopgemm :)
 
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