Doesn't matter how old you are, if you're a mature male, give your opinion!

[jon.a]

Sounds like a solution looking for a problem.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

I think you HAVE identified a problem in general. Too much TECH and not enough personal interpersonal interaction.

IMO, I think you've identified a problem, but not the solution.

the busy male wrapped up in life's activities and who has lost touch with his good friends

So he'd be too busy to use your site?

 

[socaldude]

Take this into consideration, "The leading cause of death for men aged 35-49 in the UK is suicide, accounting for 13% of deaths." Courtesy of the Office for National Statistics.

I think this kinda answers your question.

Anybody who is in a suicidal state of mind isn't exactly someone who is motivated to go out and meet people.

Almost like a catch-22. You're lonely and depressed? Go out and meet bros!

As you grow older you have more negative experiences(Divorces, Bankruptcies, destroyed relationships, health issues, you name it). Which makes you more likely to be depressed and hopeless.

 

[Almantas]

Before you proceed, please take a peek at my previous thread - the amount of input from forum members is invaluable. However, I've parked this idea - why? It's darn complex and extremely difficult to properly execute. There are sooooo many moving parts that are interconnected and interdependent and getting one thing wrong can pretty much F*ck up all process and even result in a court case and a smack in the head with a hammer from a judge.

Make sure you're 100% determined and ready to hustle your a$$ off. Otherwise, park this idea and look for something more doable at this stage.

 

[jon.a]

1. New member asks for opinions.
2. People give opinions.
3. New member defends his idea.
4. New member eventually get pissed and leaves or adjusts himself.

 

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[Sequential]

I think Facebook etc causes depression. Was talking about this to some people earlier... everyone only posts their best, their show offs, it is an egoic competition, no one posts how bad a day they have had. If you're day isn't as good you are gonna feel down.

I can't help but think a mature male with a lot of activities in his life won't have time to join your site. But if they do, there are already sites out there like ASmallWorld.

Have you done market research?

 

[Sequential]

Why would they use YOUR site except FaceBook/Meetup/[Popular social media]? Yeah, I got it, that your site focuses on reconnecting with old friends. But do know why we lose contact with these 'old friends'? It's because we all get busy, or new friends in our life. I don't know why someone want to reconnect with old friends, and if they WANT to, they can just facebook them'!

But to be fair if Zuckerberg had thought "Why would anyone want to use my site instead of Myspace" he would not be a billionaire today.

 

[GMSI7D]

Facebook, and social media in general, isn't successful because it allows you to connect with people or have "brotherly connections."

Facebook is successful because it allows you to broadcast YOUR mind's highlight reel to the world.

Look up mimetic desire.

Facebook works well because it solve the needs for gossip and the crowd mindset

most people belong to this category : 80 % of the masses can be manipulated very easily

social proof and authority are very strong cognitive biases

most people are empty soul who need to be around other people in order to escape their sense of loneliness

they secretely need to be managed. they secretely want someone to look after them and kiss them goodnight in their bed


that's why this author talks about "the lonely crowd", all those people who seek approval and human interaction to escape their empty lives.


all this energy can and must be mastered by you guys . we are talking about billions of dollars here





if you can master this crowd energy in the right system , then you will become very rich, 100 % guarantee.


this is the kind of energy which schwartz talks about in https://www.amazon.com/dp/0887232981/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20

i have a hint for you :

this energy is already used in many ways : facebook, politics, cult , religion and so on

this energy is monitored by the NSA and so on.




so your job is to find the next social app or cult like business.


think about that : Apple is just a cult with followers



when people are waiting hours to buy the next smartphone, you know you have got the right business.






nobody knows what you can achieve , what you can reach , if you can master this energy





.

 

[sparechange]

i like the approach and concept of the idea, but not sure how you will earn money from that, if you really plan to dedicate yourself to this type of buisness, id suggest to get into meetups and hosting events.. think something like having people get together for a sporting event, pickup game of basketball, hockey, soccer or whatever whilst building a brand.

 

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[sparechange]

so like a tinder version of making friends

 

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[MitchC]

So its meetup.com but only for 50% of the population? I get what you want to do and why, but I just think theres too many other ways to meet and find events and meet ups. "Facebook is already the Facebook for everything."

 

[Scuur]

I was thinking about this idea this morning. Maybe if you did something like tinder combined with meetup. You list ten activities that you enjoy or how many ever. On the onboarding process, you list your days off, some life experiences maybe you were a Veteran or lived in Europe. Then you could list activities you like Cars, Football, Fishing, Tech, etc. It puts together plans with other people for you with the same interest and similar life experiences. You swipe left if you're not interested right if you are.

 

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[Salim Mitri]

Hey everyone,

I've had in the back of my mind for a year now a great idea but just haven't made the time to pursue it. After reading Unscripted and getting a good "kick in the a$$" I have finally dug in! I've got my domain purchased and currently working with web designers and getting quotes back.

Here's the idea so please give your honest feedback, it would be super helpful and thank you in advance!

So this social media platform is very niche. It's for the mature male who has grown up and busy with the everyday hustle of life. Maybe he's married and has kids, works a full-time job, has grown apart from his college buddies due to being busy, having kids, being married, working among just some of the things keeping everyone busy.

As you grow and mature, your likes and interests change. Sure for myself I've got a bunch of friends, but only a few who I'd call "GOOD" friends who can relate on most fronts. I feel with technology creeping into everyone's lives and people becoming so distant that we lose that "brotherly connection" that the typical male used to have.

This site will be dedicated to connecting the honest, hardworking bro with other like-minded bros so that again, like when you were in grade school or college, you can feel a sence of COMRADERY.

Take this into consideration, "The leading cause of death for men aged 35-49 in the UK is suicide, accounting for 13% of deaths." Courtesy of the Office for National Statistics.

You may have many friends, or people you call friends, but NOT those CLOSE friends you'd call when SHTF! Now we "brothers" with the same values, ethics and moral compass need to unite, this will be the place for that! So what do you say?

 

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[Salim Mitri]

i like the approach and concept of the idea, but not sure how you will earn money from that, if you really plan to dedicate yourself to this type of buisness, id suggest to get into meetups and hosting events.. think something like having people get together for a sporting event, pickup game of basketball, hockey, soccer or whatever whilst building a brand.

The plan is for members in the same geography to get together with similar interests, archery, hunting, camping, off roading, biking, playing ball, chess, etc. Someone to meet who you can relate to...

 

[Almantas]

Thanks for the reply. But this isn't for suicidal or depressed people. This is targeted and the busy male wrapped up in life's activities and who has lost touch with his good friends. No counseling here

Oh, ok. Apologies for providing inaccurate information my friend!

 

[loop101]

It seems like you want to make a product for yourself. You need to make sure there is a market for this, you cite suicide statistics, but then say it isn't for suicidal people. You also have not said why all these people will like each other so much.

 

[Scuur]

So basically something like meetup.com?

The same concept as we are what we do.

 

[Salim Mitri]

I've run communities before and they can be a lot of fun but you really have to be dedicated to running it, keeping it fresh and providing a solution to a common problem. I'd like to have a place where I can hang out with people similar to me (I'm 53 as I write this) but the issue is that age doesn't always define who's similar to me. For example, here I find people similar to me but in all age groups. People do like to hang out with similar people though (e.g. people love being a part of a club) and sometimes when I was depressed because life was throwing me too many curve balls and I didn't realise I was swinging the bat from the fat end. At those times a good natured well meaning slap across the back of the head from someone like (say...oh I don't know) @jon.a telling me I'm holding the bat wrong (in his classic dry humoured way) could have helped a lot. Younger or people not of a similar mind may not have seen I was holding the bat wrong and may have tried to tell me I was standing wrong or not following through.

My point is that yeah, sometimes it'd be handy to hang out with like minded people (thousands of successful forums are built around this premise) but what'd be the glue that binds us all. Here it's the will to gain freedom through enterprise. But what would your community have binding itself together? What would be the common thread? There needs to be a common thread and I'm not sure that being over 50 and upset with life is a good reason to want to hang out with other people over 50 that are upset with life. There has to be something there that cheers us up and makes us want to become repeat visitors. Find a good reason and yeah, I'll hang out with other older guys and gals but you better be committed or find a way for us to want to throw some money at you or you'll find the work a drag. You not only need to want to do it but you need to want to pay to do it until a cool and comfortable way to monetise it comes to mind.

For example, I love old cars and hot rods, I'd gladly pay to run my own community of old hot rodders to just hang out and discuss old cars - but that sort of already exists in many forms so I just visit those forums and get my fill by being a bystander/member.

I appreciate the constructive criticism and not just the criticism! Thank you

 

[Ecom man]

As someone who is
1. Busy
2. Male
3. Doesn't have any "bros"
I wouldn't use the site. If I want to "hang out" I could find people to do it with. The problem... see number 1.

 

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[eagleye101]

Hi,

I find that there's something in your idea. You just have to have it crystal clear in your mind and to communicate it that way.

I'd use your service. I'm busy indeed, that's why I'd use it because it would save me time to invest in finding "friends" with similar interests.

When I'm free and I'd like to chill and meet with someone, it's too late. Nobody is available waiting for me when i'll get up from work.

Maybe you should find a way to evaluate the idea as soon and as cheap as possible to listen to the market voice. Get some feedback assess and adjust.

 

[Deleted48496]

Why would they use YOUR site except FaceBook/Meetup/[Popular social media]? Yeah, I got it, that your site focuses on reconnecting with old friends. But do know why we lose contact with these 'old friends'? It's because we all get busy, or new friends in our life. I don't know why someone want to reconnect with old friends, and if they WANT to, they can just facebook them'!

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

I feel with technology creeping into everyone's lives and people becoming so distant that we lose that "brotherly connection" that the typical male used to have.

This site will be dedicated to

Do you see the contradiction here?

Yes but not just your everyday friend you go to the bar with but a "brother" you can always call on, a little deeper....

So a fraternity?

There's a lot of those already.

 

[Salim Mitri]

How about older immature males?

Ok, sorry. I am probably somewhat the demographic you are looking for based on biographic qualities, older, male, but certainly not sure this kind of social thing would provide me value. Except in one way. As MJ said you might have identified a problem, but not the actual solution. Similarly I have a small subset of problems, but not sure if your site you're proposing would solve them.

• I travel a lot and when in a new area am often bored
• I am not using dating apps because that is not my intention
• I want to maybe hang out, have a drink, discussion while out
• I just moved to a new area and have no friends and would love to make/meet some based on interest

Those are just a few things that come to mind that I could use and perhaps you are proposing.

I definitely don't want counseling and it sounds like you are dropping that idea. I don't want another high-friction to learn social platform that will take up more of my time than I am willing to give. I do want something simple I can open up on my mobile device and type in.."Where are the Royals fans hanging out tonight, let me see: Enters Royals" App then knows contextually where I am and what I am trying to do.

Oh yes, this is a harder problem to solve than it sounds like. Enjoy that. But I would love this thing. As it is I just go to bars that seem interesting and / or local events. For example, while in Austin on Thursday night I looked up who was playing music locally to my location. I was in Rainy Street area. I saw that an artist whose music I enjoyed on YouTube (jazzy) was playing that very same night at Geraldines in the Van Zandt Hotel. I had a great evening! Help me solve these problems I am in your debt.

Likewise, why does it just have to focus on older men. I don't discriminate who I want to hang out with. I just want to enjoy life with everyone.

Aaron you are the exact person who comes to mind when I think of this forum. And no, this isn't for older men, dude I'm 32. I don't know why people keep saying older. And also, this isn't for counseling, I think F*ck anyone who wants to try and counsel me, I don't have issues. Just looking to meet a cool guy since I also travel and have bounced around a lot. Thanks for your reply!

 

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[Salim Mitri]

I'm brand new here. Please don't take this as discouragement. I wouldn't pretend to be as well suited as others here to speak to the viability of a business idea. But if you do go down this road, just wanted to let you know that something similar has been tried before. Maybe you can learn from their mistakes.

Google 'Wolfpack app' and you should be able to find some press on them. Looks like there's a new wolfpack app that is for motorcycle riders. But the old one was more like your market.

Have a good one!

Hey thanks a lot for this, I had no idea this even existed! This will really have me reconsider, this is right up the alley of what I had in mind.

 

[TonyStark]

Sounds like a solution looking for a problem.

Beat me to it; what does MJ call it in his book?

 

[Salim Mitri]

so like a tinder version of making friends

Yes but not just your everyday friend you go to the bar with but a "brother" you can always call on, a little deeper....

 

[Salim Mitri]

Before you proceed, please take a peek at my previous thread - the amount of input from forum members is invaluable. However, I've parked this idea - why? It's darn complex and extremely difficult to properly execute. There are sooooo many moving parts that are interconnected and interdependent and getting one thing wrong can pretty much F*ck up all process and even result in a court case and a smack in the head with a hammer from a judge.

Make sure you're 100% determined and ready to hustle your a$$ off. Otherwise, park this idea and look for something more doable at this stage.

Thanks for the reply. But this isn't for suicidal or depressed people. This is targeted and the busy male wrapped up in life's activities and who has lost touch with his good friends. No counseling here

 

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[Salim Mitri]

Thanks for the reply. But this isn't for suicidal or depressed people. This is targeted and the busy male wrapped up in life's activities and who has lost touch with his good friends. No counseling here

Thanks though, I'll leave that fact out of my site!

 

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[V8Bill]

I've run communities before and they can be a lot of fun but you really have to be dedicated to running it, keeping it fresh and providing a solution to a common problem. I'd like to have a place where I can hang out with people similar to me (I'm 53 as I write this) but the issue is that age doesn't always define who's similar to me. For example, here I find people similar to me but in all age groups. People do like to hang out with similar people though (e.g. people love being a part of a club) and sometimes when I was depressed because life was throwing me too many curve balls and I didn't realise I was swinging the bat from the fat end. At those times a good natured well meaning slap across the back of the head from someone like (say...oh I don't know) @jon.a telling me I'm holding the bat wrong (in his classic dry humoured way) could have helped a lot. Younger or people not of a similar mind may not have seen I was holding the bat wrong and may have tried to tell me I was standing wrong or not following through.

My point is that yeah, sometimes it'd be handy to hang out with like minded people (thousands of successful forums are built around this premise) but what'd be the glue that binds us all. Here it's the will to gain freedom through enterprise. But what would your community have binding itself together? What would be the common thread? There needs to be a common thread and I'm not sure that being over 50 and upset with life is a good reason to want to hang out with other people over 50 that are upset with life. There has to be something there that cheers us up and makes us want to become repeat visitors. Find a good reason and yeah, I'll hang out with other older guys and gals but you better be committed or find a way for us to want to throw some money at you or you'll find the work a drag. You not only need to want to do it but you need to want to pay to do it until a cool and comfortable way to monetise it comes to mind.

For example, I love old cars and hot rods, I'd gladly pay to run my own community of old hot rodders to just hang out and discuss old cars - but that sort of already exists in many forms so I just visit those forums and get my fill by being a bystander/member.

 

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[Salim Mitri]

I think you HAVE identified a problem in general. Too much TECH and not enough personal interpersonal interaction.

IMO, I think you've identified a problem, but not the solution.



So he'd be too busy to use your site?

Hey I really appreciate the comment MJ! I'll ponder some better solutions to the need.