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Hello everyone,

This thread is to share experiences in the marketing consulting market. Here you can share your story, use it as an accountability area, warn others about bad advice, and grow together. I'll go first.

I've been hopping into a few copywriting resources online, but I fear that there exists a massive oversaturation in the market. This is leading me to research a hybrid copywriting-branding consultant agency business model that would not only stand out from the crowded thousands of copywriters but is also scalable in the same way just a copywriting agency would be. It very well may be dumb and I'm sure I won't be the first guy to come up with it. First, I am going to spend a month or two mastering the arts. This will likely be a long and hard process due to the upcoming vacations I have, plus commitments to PT after breaking my arm, school, karate, working out, ETC ETC ETC.

Will update.
 
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Vjip O tvesv duqzxsovoph, katv vu caomf deqovem.

Vjip O vseop tuni dmettnevit op iwiszvjoph O jewi miespif epf inqmuz vjin gus 5% qsugovt.

Op uvjis xusft O dsievi nz nusi iggodoipv neslivoph hsuaq epf hiv dmoipvt (emm getv mepi dunqepoit) epf vjiz tewi dutvt cz josoph at (5-10% ug vji qsugovt xi neli vjin)

O fup’v lpux og ov xomm xusl epf ov’t wisz encovouat duptofisoph O’n op noffmi tdjuum cav ov xuamf ci e hsiev caotpitt updi ov’t aq epf sappoph.

Xjev fuit iwiszupi vjopl? Epz gmext op nz qmep? Epz (jopv jopv) nipvust xju duamf jimq ni?
 
O vjopl O jewi nz ofie dunoph vuhivjis:

Neslivoph fiqesvnipvt esi ittipvoem op neloph e csepf, epf csepf ot xjev jet nefi tu nepz dunqepoit taddittgam, iwip og vjios qsufadv xet e tvienoph manq ug fuhtjov.

Cav tnemm epf nifoan tobif catopittit katv deppuv eggusf emm vji inqmuziit.

Nz fef xuslt op neslivoph gus e mudem detopu tu O en huoph vu tii og O dep tjefux jon us opvisp vjisi us tunivjoph. Miesp nusi ecuav vji opfatvsz.

Vjip O tvesv duqzxsovoph, katv vu caomf deqovem.

Vjip O vseop tuni dmettnevit op iwiszvjoph O jewi miespif epf inqmuz vjin gus 5% qsugovt.

Op uvjis xusft O dsievi nz nusi iggodoipv neslivoph hsuaq epf hiv dmoipvt (emm getv mepi dunqepoit) epf vjiz tewi dutvt cz josoph at (5-10% ug vji qsugovt xi neli vjin)

O fup’v lpux og ov xomm xusl epf ov’t wisz encovouat duptofisoph O’n op noffmi tdjuum cav ov xuamf ci e hsiev caotpitt updi ov’t aq epf sappoph.

Xjev fuit iwiszupi vjopl? Epz gmext op nz qmep? Epz (jopv jopv) nipvust xju duamf jimq ni?
Tvesv siedjoph uav vu vji quvipvoem nesliv cigusi miespoph epzvjoph.

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Tvesv siedjoph uav vu vji quvipvoem nesliv cigusi miespoph epzvjoph.

Tasi, citofit ug vjot catopitt ov't e hsiev tlomm vu lpux duqz, cav hu nesliv gostv. Zua jewi ep ofie gus [Y] cazist hu tumwi vjin [X]? Siedj uav vu Z.

Muul ev vjot qutv ug nopi. Gopf vji gostv dmoipv vu tiswi - xjisiwis zua dep (zuas gevjis't duppidvoupt ot e hsiev xez vu tvesv!). Qav emm vji xusl opvu gopfoph vji gostv dmoipv, epf vjip miesp xjev zua piif emuph vji xez.

Sinincis - zua jewi ep ofie? Vsz vu timm ov vu vji nesliv. Xjev fuit nesliv sitqupf? Xjev zua'wi miespif? Caomf vjev, us fup'v caomf ev emm.
O vjopl vji ofie otp'v woecmi gus ni pux, cav jux fu O hu ecuav ov og O fof vjot?
 
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"SCALED TO 6-FIGURE MONTHS"
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— User MitchC
"INSANE QUALITY OF PEOPLE"
"The number of high quality people I've met from this forum has been insane. All of it predicated on building real value."
— User Richard Peck

"You are the average of the five people you surround yourself with."
Are you surrounding yourself with success?

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