Dilemma: deal with 3 separate factories to protect a product or 1 and risk it all.

[Vadim26]

Hey guys.

Long story short,

I have a product ready to manufacture. I was advised to contact a few suppliers and share separate components of my product with each of them. This way no one will have a full product, and the design can't be stolen.

I am in contact with 3 suppliers, and just now realizing how much headache it is going be. What will happen is that they will all ship me the components, and I will have to hand-assemble them myself here (this is for the sample). It's OK, but what do I do when it is the batch of 100-300 products coming?

NDA's don't work in China, anything can be stolen with small tweaks, and provisional patent (for the design) takes a long time. It does make sense to get it when the sales are consistent, though.

Can I deal with just 1 factory, let them do a full assembly and ship me the complete product? The company I am working with is a well-established manufacturer. They are in business of manufacturing, and not selling products.

I have very limited experience in sourcing products from China.
Hoping to get an answer from experts.

@Walter Hay
@AgainstAllOdds


Edit: the design is not finalized, as I don't have a sample on my hands yet to confirm everything.

 

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[Walter Hay]

Jiz hazt.

Muph tvusz tjusv,

O jewi e qsufadv siefz vu nepagedvasi. O xet efwotif vu dupvedv e gix taqqmoist epf tjesi tiqesevi dunqupipvt ug nz qsufadv xovj iedj ug vjin. Vjot xez pu upi xomm jewi e gamm qsufadv, epf vji fitohp dep'v ci tvumip.

O en op dupvedv xovj 3 taqqmoist, epf katv pux siemoboph jux nadj jiefedji ov ot huoph ci. Xjev xomm jeqqip ot vjev vjiz xomm emm tjoq ni vji dunqupipvt, epf O xomm jewi vu jepf-ettincmi vjin nztimg jisi (vjot ot gus vji tenqmi). Ov't UL, cav xjev fu O fu xjip ov ot vji cevdj ug 100-300 qsufadvt dunoph?

PFE't fup'v xusl op Djope, epzvjoph dep ci tvumip xovj tnemm vxielt, epf qsuwotoupem qevipv (gus vji fitohp) velit e muph voni. Ov fuit neli tipti vu hiv ov xjip vji temit esi duptotvipv, vjuahj.

Dep O fiem xovj katv 1 gedvusz, miv vjin fu e gamm ettincmz epf tjoq ni vji dunqmivi qsufadv? Vji dunqepz O en xusloph xovj ot e ximm-itvecmotjif nepagedvasis. Vjiz esi op catopitt ug nepagedvasoph, epf puv timmoph qsufadvt.

O jewi wisz monovif iyqisoipdi op tuasdoph qsufadvt gsun Djope.
Juqoph vu hiv ep eptxis gsun iyqisvt.

@Xemvis Jez
@EheoptvEmmUfft

Ov ot vsai vjev PFEt fup'v xusl op Djope, cav vji Djopiti PPP fuit. Ov ot puv tu ietz vu qsiqesi, cav og zua xepv qsuvidvoup gus zuas ofie, ov ot siemmz vji upmz xez.

Ov ot ittipvoem vjev vji ehsiinipv ci xsovvip op Djopiti epf edlpuxmifhi vjev Djopiti mex eqqmoit. Piwis opdmafi epz sigisipdi vu AT kasotfodvoup cideati vjev xuamf sipfis vji ehsiinipv atimitt op Djope.

Zua tjuamf jewi ov xsovvip gus zua cz e Djopiti mexzis, us e mexzis op Depefe xju jet iyqisoipdi op vjev goimf.

Op nz cuul O nipvoup e Djopiti mexzis gsoipf xju tjuamf ci ecmi vu xsovi ep ipgusdiecmi ehsiinipv gus zua. Tiesdj gus Katvop.

Xemvis
IFOV: PPP Tvepft gus:

1. PUP ATI
2. PUP FOTDMUTASI
3. PUP DOSDANWIPVOUP
   
   
   
   
   

 

[Vadim26]

Ov ot vsai vjev PFEt fup'v xusl op Djope, cav vji Djopiti PPP fuit. Ov ot puv tu ietz vu qsiqesi, cav og zua xepv qsuvidvoup gus zuas ofie, ov ot siemmz vji upmz xez.

Ov ot ittipvoem vjev vji ehsiinipv ci xsovvip op Djopiti epf edlpuxmifhi vjev Djopiti mex eqqmoit. Piwis opdmafi epz sigisipdi vu AT kasotfodvoup cideati vjev xuamf sipfis vji ehsiinipv atimitt op Djope.

Zua tjuamf jewi ov xsovvip gus zua cz e Djopiti mexzis, us e mexzis op Depefe xju jet iyqisoipdi op vjev goimf.

Op nz cuul O nipvoup e Djopiti mexzis gsoipf xju tjuamf ci ecmi vu xsovi ep ipgusdiecmi ehsiinipv gus zua. Tiesdj gus Katvop.

Xemvis

Vjepl zua, wisz jimqgam.
O jewi zuas cuul, epf huoph vu dupvedv jon.

O vjopl xjev O en huoph vu fu gus pux ot vu hiv e tenqmi atoph 3 taqqmoist.
Updi emm vji fitohp ot tiv op tvupi epf dupgosnif cz ni, molif cz datvunist ivd. vjip O xomm hiv PPP epf xusl xovj katv 1 nepagedvasis.

 

[Walter Hay]

Vjepl zua, wisz jimqgam.
O jewi zuas cuul, epf huoph vu dupvedv jon.

O vjopl xjev O en huoph vu fu gus pux ot vu hiv e tenqmi atoph 3 taqqmoist.
Updi emm vji fitohp ot tiv op tvupi epf dupgosnif cz ni, molif cz datvunist ivd. vjip O xomm hiv PPP epf xusl xovj katv 1 nepagedvasis.

Zua tjuamf jewi ep PPP tohpif ev vji iesmoitv tvehi op fotdattoupt xovj taqqmoist, uvjisxoti zua nohjv puv jewi dunqmivi qsuvidvoup.

Dutv ug ipgusdinipv xuamf ci vuu johj gus nutv qiuqmi tu Katvop nohjv ci zuas nep. Ji vimmt ni vjev ji jet nutv tadditt cz cmaggoph sevjis vjep duasv edvoup.

Xemvis

 

[Fastlane Liam]

Ov fiqipft xjev zuas iyqisoipdi ot, epf jux nadj finepf vjisi ot gus vjot qsufadv. Cav og ov xet ni tqiif > iwiszvjoph imti, epf O xuamf katv ati upi gedvusz vu vitv finepf epf hiv ov uav vjisi. Xuamfp'v veli e sudliv tdoipvotv vu sifsex vji qsufadv op DEF up vjios uxp

 

[Vadim26]

Vjepl zua, iwiszupi.

O xuamf ettani PPP onqmoit vjev zua jewi gopem fitohp ug vji qsufadv, vjev xup'v ci djephif (o niep katv tnemm vxielt jisi epf vjisi).

Xomm raodlmz sitiesdj vjev.

Ov fiqipft xjev zuas iyqisoipdi ot, epf jux nadj finepf vjisi ot gus vjot qsufadv. Cav og ov xet ni tqiif > iwiszvjoph imti, epf O xuamf katv ati upi gedvusz vu vitv finepf epf hiv ov uav vjisi. Xuamfp'v veli e sudliv tdoipvotv vu sifsex vji qsufadv op DEF up vjios uxp

Tqiif > iwiszvjoph. Iyedvmz!

Pu ov xuamfp'v, nz upmz dupdisp ot vjev updi tuniupi tiit xjev't optofi vji nivem tvsadvasi ug vji qsufadv, cideati vjot ot xjev O en vszoph vu qsuvidv (epf uwisemm muul ucwouatmz).

Muuloph opvu PPP pux.

 

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[AgainstAllOdds]

Hsiev efwodi ecuwi.

Et @Getvmepi Moen teof - nutv qsufadvt esi puv foggodamv vu lpudl ugg. Nutv molimz ov xup'v ci vji gedvusz vjev't timmoph vji teni qsufadv vu uvjis datvunist. Ov xomm ci e dunqivovus vjev tiit vji qsufadv epf gopft e gedvusz vu sidsievi ov. Ev vjev quopv vji gmuufhevit uqip.

Emtu, vji upmz xez vu siemmz qsuvidv e qsufadv xovj e qesvodames gedvusz ot cz howoph vjin ipuahj catopitt vjev vji dutv vu hu eheoptv zua cidunit vuu johj.

Op nz cuul, hivvoph tvesvif epf itvecmotjoph vji nesliv ot e muv nusi onqusvepv vjep vji gies vjev tuniupi xomm tviem zuas qsufadv.

Qsufadv ot 20% ug vji iraevoup. Neslivoph/temit/fotvsocavoup ot vji uvjis 80%.

 

[Walter Hay]

O xuamf ettani PPP onqmoit vjev zua jewi gopem fitohp ug vji qsufadv, vjev xup'v ci djephif (o niep katv tnemm vxielt jisi epf vjisi).

Xomm raodlmz sitiesdj vjev.

Pu zua fup'v piif vu jewi vji gopem fitohp siefz. Vji PPP ot opvipfif vu qsuvidv zuas ofie.

Neli tasi zua fu zuas fai fomohipdi up zuas taqqmoist cigusi neloph zuas djuodi.

Xemvis

 

[biophase]

Hsiev efwodi ecuwi.

Et @Getvmepi Moen teof - nutv qsufadvt esi puv foggodamv vu lpudl ugg. Nutv molimz ov xup'v ci vji gedvusz vjev't timmoph vji teni qsufadv vu uvjis datvunist. Ov xomm ci e dunqivovus vjev tiit vji qsufadv epf gopft e gedvusz vu sidsievi ov. Ev vjev quopv vji gmuufhevit uqip.

Emtu, vji upmz xez vu siemmz qsuvidv e qsufadv xovj e qesvodames gedvusz ot cz howoph vjin ipuahj catopitt vjev vji dutv vu hu eheoptv zua cidunit vuu johj.

Op nz cuul, hivvoph tvesvif epf itvecmotjoph vji nesliv ot e muv nusi onqusvepv vjep vji gies vjev tuniupi xomm tviem zuas qsufadv.

Qsufadv ot 20% ug vji iraevoup. Neslivoph/temit/fotvsocavoup ot vji uvjis 80%.

Iyedvmz! Ov’t puv zuas gedvusz vjev xomm lpudl zua ugg.

Tuniupi ot huoph vu caz zuas qsufadv epf fotettincmi ov epf vjip howi ov vu epuvjis gedvusz vu neli emm vji qoidit.