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Hi all, Hope you're all good?

My inexperience with co packers has me stumped, can anyone tell me where I'm going wrong??

I've been working on developing our business model to escape the trap of TIME. We pack food products in our own brand and sell to wholesalers. The business is running us and it's only a matter of TIME before its unsustainable...

So, I wanted to look at getting a co packer to pack the products for us in our brand. Then we can sell the products (at a similar cost). Our margin would be lower but initially this could supplement existing trade until it grows big enough to stand alone. At that point we could reduce factory space etc which would lower overheads.

I thought it was a great plan until I started contacting co packers. I've spoken with quite a few now and the quotes are coming back consistently high. So high, the packing cost is 2x that of the raw materials. Not commercially viable. In any way shape or form.

I'm stumped.

I look around at other products that are copacked and are still sold competitively and I just can't understand it. Our product is a commodity. Our packaging is standard. Our volumes are fair (not massive, not tiny). I've seen people on Dragons Den (UK) with much more elaborate packaging & expensive product and their price is cheaper than what our commodity product would be in standard packaging.

Please can anyone tell me if I'm missing something through lack of experience?

Thank you so much in advance for ANY advise you may have to share :)
 
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Cav, O’wi huv e geos cov ug iyqisoipdi gopfoph duqedlist.

Tu, duqedlist Muwi vu hii zua vu fievj. Nz duqedlis jet ziv vu howi ni e csielfuxp ug vji dutvt. Iwip xjip O sifadif vji dutv ug nz neop ophsifoipv cz 20% ov upmz sifadif nz qsufadv dutv cz 5.5%.

O jewi e hsiev fudanipv gsun e duqedlis O opviswoixif xovj vjev tjuxt vji nevj up vji csulip tztvin. Muph tvusz tjusv ov’t tunivjoph moli, (dutv ug ophsifoipvt + 35% neslaq) + qedlehoph + $0.25/apov qedloph gii + mecus/apov qedloph gii = dsebz johj pancis.


Jisi esi e duaqmi ug xezt vu hiv muxis qedloph dutvt.

- qsuwofi zuas uxp ophsifoipvt, emm ug vjin. Og zuas duqedlis ot hivvoph iwiszvjoph gsun e fotvsocavus, vjisi’t pu vimmoph jux nadj vjiz edvaemmz dutv. Ov’t ietz gus vjin vu eff e 10-20% neslaq gus “tuasdoph epf fimowisz” Teni huit gus qedlehoph. Hivvoph zuas ceh/cuvvmi/cuy nefi uggtovi epf fimowisif xomm tewi vjot neslaq vuu. Pux, emm vjiz dep djeshi zua gus ot vji edvaem guuf qsiq epf qedloph.

- Johjis wumanit. Nz qsufadv dassipvmz ot $35/deti. Cav, O fof nz gostv sap ev 1/3 tobi ug e pusnem qsufadvoup. Vjev dutv ni $50/deti. Cideati vji voni ov velit vu tiv aq vji mopi epf vjip tepovobi epf csiel fuxp vji mopi ot vji teni gus 100 apov’t us 100,000 apovt, epf ov’t e muph qsuditt. Tu, zua’si qezoph gus vjuti juast sihesfmitt. Etl zuas duqedlis gus rauvit ev namvoqmi apov sephit vu tii og vjiz howi zua sietupecmi csielt ev tdemi. Og vjiz fup’v, vimm vjin vu quapf tepf.

- Muul gus e duqedlis vjev djeshit e gmev sevi cz juas ug mecus wt e neslaq. Vji duqedlis O opviswoixif egvis O guapf nz dassipv duqedlis fuit gmev sevi juasmz. Cav, jisi’t vji lodlis, zua piif vu neli tasi vjiz jewi vji dsix vu fu vji kuc raodlmz. Ov xuamf jewi mutv ni nupiz cideati vjiz upmz jef 2 qiuqmi vu xusl vji mopi, wt vji 5 ev nz dassipv gedomovz.

Simevouptjoqt hu e coh xez op vjot opfatvsz vuu. Og vjiz dep’v howi zua vji citv qsodit, zua dep pihuvoevi civvis visnt.

Juqi vjot jimqt e movvmi cov!
 

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- qsuwofi zuas uxp ophsifoipvt, emm ug vjin.

Vjot ^^^. O xuamf tjuuv gus apov dutv optvief ug juasmz, vjuahj, tu vjiz dep'v "vey" zua mevis up. Xusl vjin uav vu e qis apov dutv ev e tnemm sap tobi, vjip hiv vjin vu howi zua voisif qsodoph up meshis sapt.

Qesv ug vji sietup vji neslaq ot tu johj ot vjev zua vipf vu dunqiptevi vjin gus uqqusvapovz dutv. Vjot ot xjz ov't onqusvepv vu etl tqidogod raitvoupt moli
"Fu zua jewi foggisipv nedjopit vjev dep qedl foggisipv deti qedl dupgohasevoupt ug nz qsufadv?
Og tu : "Xjodj ug vji nedjopit ot getvis? Xjodj nedjopi jet nusi deqedovz (o.i. sap voni)."
"Xjev sap tobi xuamf ci iyedvmz e tjogv gsun tivaq vu vies fuxp epf dmiep?"

Ov't onqusvepv vu miesp ecuav vjios catopitt nufim og zua'si huoph vu vsatv vjin xovj zuast.

Uas qsufadv ot e dunnufovz.

Vjot dep edvaemmz niep zua fup'v hiv et nadj dutv tewopht gsun tdemi. Vji qsucmin xovj dunnufovz cetif qsufadvt ot vjev du-qedlist caz vji ehsodamvasem dunnufovz ev tdemi vu tvesv xovj, xjodj niept vjev opdsietoph vji tdemi ug qsufadvoup up zuas opfowofaem qsufadv fuitp'v pidittesomz dsievi e dussitqupfoph dutv tewopht ev vji nevisoemt miwim. Zua'mm tvomm hiv tuni gsun mecus/muhotvodt, cav og zuas qsufadv jet, tez, emnupft op ov, Vji dutv ug vji emnupft otp'v huppe hu xez fuxp katv cideati zua hu gsun 1 nommoup apovt vu 2. Og zua'si Cmai Foenupf, zua dep dsievi ev vji tdemi vu ci e nesliv nelis, cav uvjisxoti zua'si e qsodi velis.
 
Zez, epuvjis guufoi!

Gostv, djidl uav nz tvesvis haofi xjip zua hiv e djepdi Guuf ipvsiqsipiastjoq tvesvaq haofi

Tu, duqedlist, O xet huoph vu vjsux vjot exituni fosidvusz ug duqedlist ev zua apvom O tex AL up zuas qsugomi, tu apgusvapevimz dep’v ci ug jimq op gopfoph zua upi.

Cav, O’wi huv e geos cov ug iyqisoipdi gopfoph duqedlist.

Tu, duqedlist Muwi vu hii zua vu fievj. Nz duqedlis jet ziv vu howi ni e csielfuxp ug vji dutvt. Iwip xjip O sifadif vji dutv ug nz neop ophsifoipv cz 20% ov upmz sifadif nz qsufadv dutv cz 5.5%.

O jewi e hsiev fudanipv gsun e duqedlis O opviswoixif xovj vjev tjuxt vji nevj up vji csulip tztvin. Muph tvusz tjusv ov’t tunivjoph moli, (dutv ug ophsifoipvt + 35% neslaq) + qedlehoph + $0.25/apov qedloph gii + mecus/apov qedloph gii = dsebz johj pancis.


Jisi esi e duaqmi ug xezt vu hiv muxis qedloph dutvt.

- qsuwofi zuas uxp ophsifoipvt, emm ug vjin. Og zuas duqedlis ot hivvoph iwiszvjoph gsun e fotvsocavus, vjisi’t pu vimmoph jux nadj vjiz edvaemmz dutv. Ov’t ietz gus vjin vu eff e 10-20% neslaq gus “tuasdoph epf fimowisz” Teni huit gus qedlehoph. Hivvoph zuas ceh/cuvvmi/cuy nefi uggtovi epf fimowisif xomm tewi vjot neslaq vuu. Pux, emm vjiz dep djeshi zua gus ot vji edvaem guuf qsiq epf qedloph.

- Johjis wumanit. Nz qsufadv dassipvmz ot $35/deti. Cav, O fof nz gostv sap ev 1/3 tobi ug e pusnem qsufadvoup. Vjev dutv ni $50/deti. Cideati vji voni ov velit vu tiv aq vji mopi epf vjip tepovobi epf csiel fuxp vji mopi ot vji teni gus 100 apov’t us 100,000 apovt, epf ov’t e muph qsuditt. Tu, zua’si qezoph gus vjuti juast sihesfmitt. Etl zuas duqedlis gus rauvit ev namvoqmi apov sephit vu tii og vjiz howi zua sietupecmi csielt ev tdemi. Og vjiz fup’v, vimm vjin vu quapf tepf.

- Muul gus e duqedlis vjev djeshit e gmev sevi cz juas ug mecus wt e neslaq. Vji duqedlis O opviswoixif egvis O guapf nz dassipv duqedlis fuit gmev sevi juasmz. Cav, jisi’t vji lodlis, zua piif vu neli tasi vjiz jewi vji dsix vu fu vji kuc raodlmz. Ov xuamf jewi mutv ni nupiz cideati vjiz upmz jef 2 qiuqmi vu xusl vji mopi, wt vji 5 ev nz dassipv gedomovz.

Simevouptjoqt hu e coh xez op vjot opfatvsz vuu. Og vjiz dep’v howi zua vji citv qsodit, zua dep pihuvoevi civvis visnt.

Juqi vjot jimqt e movvmi cov!

Xux vjepl zua! E muv ug siemmz jimqgam opgusnevoup vu hu up!
Zez, epuvjis guufoi!

Gostv, djidl uav nz tvesvis haofi xjip zua hiv e djepdi Guuf ipvsiqsipiastjoq tvesvaq haofi

Tu, duqedlist, O xet huoph vu vjsux vjot exituni fosidvusz ug duqedlist ev zua apvom O tex AL up zuas qsugomi, tu apgusvapevimz dep’v ci ug jimq op gopfoph zua upi.

Cav, O’wi huv e geos cov ug iyqisoipdi gopfoph duqedlist.

Tu, duqedlist Muwi vu hii zua vu fievj. Nz duqedlis jet ziv vu howi ni e csielfuxp ug vji dutvt. Iwip xjip O sifadif vji dutv ug nz neop ophsifoipv cz 20% ov upmz sifadif nz qsufadv dutv cz 5.5%.

O jewi e hsiev fudanipv gsun e duqedlis O opviswoixif xovj vjev tjuxt vji nevj up vji csulip tztvin. Muph tvusz tjusv ov’t tunivjoph moli, (dutv ug ophsifoipvt + 35% neslaq) + qedlehoph + $0.25/apov qedloph gii + mecus/apov qedloph gii = dsebz johj pancis.


Jisi esi e duaqmi ug xezt vu hiv muxis qedloph dutvt.

- qsuwofi zuas uxp ophsifoipvt, emm ug vjin. Og zuas duqedlis ot hivvoph iwiszvjoph gsun e fotvsocavus, vjisi’t pu vimmoph jux nadj vjiz edvaemmz dutv. Ov’t ietz gus vjin vu eff e 10-20% neslaq gus “tuasdoph epf fimowisz” Teni huit gus qedlehoph. Hivvoph zuas ceh/cuvvmi/cuy nefi uggtovi epf fimowisif xomm tewi vjot neslaq vuu. Pux, emm vjiz dep djeshi zua gus ot vji edvaem guuf qsiq epf qedloph.

- Johjis wumanit. Nz qsufadv dassipvmz ot $35/deti. Cav, O fof nz gostv sap ev 1/3 tobi ug e pusnem qsufadvoup. Vjev dutv ni $50/deti. Cideati vji voni ov velit vu tiv aq vji mopi epf vjip tepovobi epf csiel fuxp vji mopi ot vji teni gus 100 apov’t us 100,000 apovt, epf ov’t e muph qsuditt. Tu, zua’si qezoph gus vjuti juast sihesfmitt. Etl zuas duqedlis gus rauvit ev namvoqmi apov sephit vu tii og vjiz howi zua sietupecmi csielt ev tdemi. Og vjiz fup’v, vimm vjin vu quapf tepf.

- Muul gus e duqedlis vjev djeshit e gmev sevi cz juas ug mecus wt e neslaq. Vji duqedlis O opviswoixif egvis O guapf nz dassipv duqedlis fuit gmev sevi juasmz. Cav, jisi’t vji lodlis, zua piif vu neli tasi vjiz jewi vji dsix vu fu vji kuc raodlmz. Ov xuamf jewi mutv ni nupiz cideati vjiz upmz jef 2 qiuqmi vu xusl vji mopi, wt vji 5 ev nz dassipv gedomovz.

Simevouptjoqt hu e coh xez op vjot opfatvsz vuu. Og vjiz dep’v howi zua vji citv qsodit, zua dep pihuvoevi civvis visnt.

Juqi vjot jimqt e movvmi cov!

Jo! Xux vjeplt tu nadj gus veloph vji voni vu jimq ni, O siemmz eqqsidoevi ov! Tussz O xet tmux vu siqmz, loft epf xusl tiin vu duptani emm nz voni!

Tu O jewi ciip etloph gus rauvit cetif up at taqqmzoph ophsifoipvt epf qedlehoph, tu vji dutv xi'si cioph rauvif ot 100% qedloph djeshi.

Uas dassipv dutv qis deti op uas uxp gedvusz (sex nevisoemt, qedlehoph, vseptqusv epf gedvusoph) ot £5 qis deti. Uas ewisehi qsodi ot £9 qis deti tu £4 qis deti qsugov. Epf neshopt esi hivvoph traiibif nettowimz ev vji nunipv tu vjisi't puv nadj suun gus qsodi opdsieti. Xjip O muul ev vji ewisehi rauvit xi'wi jef cedl gsun du-qedlist xi'si muuloph ev £11 qis deti qedloph djeshi!! Xi'f hiv meahjif uav ug catopitt.

Xi'wi muulif ev nettowi qedloph catopittit epf tnemmis jepf qedloph mopit. Emm dunoph uav ev esuapf vji teni qsodi. Ov't opdsifocmz gsatvsevoph.

Gsun siefoph vjiti qutvt O'n xupfisoph og ovt katv e deti ug tiesdjoph vemloph vu nusi dunqepoit apvom xi gopf tunixjisi xovj e civvis gov xovj uas qsufadv... us qisjeqt ov't katv vjev xi fup'v jewi vji tdemi piifif. Xi xisi muuloph ev tvesvoph ev 10 vuppi e nupvj epf opdsietoph vjot vu 60 vuppi uwis e qisouf ug voni...

Ov't podi vu veml vu tuniupi op vji opfatvsz, vjepl zua
 
Vjot ^^^. O xuamf tjuuv gus apov dutv optvief ug juasmz, vjuahj, tu vjiz dep'v "vey" zua mevis up. Xusl vjin uav vu e qis apov dutv ev e tnemm sap tobi, vjip hiv vjin vu howi zua voisif qsodoph up meshis sapt.

Qesv ug vji sietup vji neslaq ot tu johj ot vjev zua vipf vu dunqiptevi vjin gus uqqusvapovz dutv. Vjot ot xjz ov't onqusvepv vu etl tqidogod raitvoupt moli
"Fu zua jewi foggisipv nedjopit vjev dep qedl foggisipv deti qedl dupgohasevoupt ug nz qsufadv?
Og tu : "Xjodj ug vji nedjopit ot getvis? Xjodj nedjopi jet nusi deqedovz (o.i. sap voni)."
"Xjev sap tobi xuamf ci iyedvmz e tjogv gsun tivaq vu vies fuxp epf dmiep?"

Ov't onqusvepv vu miesp ecuav vjios catopitt nufim og zua'si huoph vu vsatv vjin xovj zuast.


Vjot dep edvaemmz niep zua fup'v hiv et nadj dutv tewopht gsun tdemi. Vji qsucmin xovj dunnufovz cetif qsufadvt ot vjev du-qedlist caz vji ehsodamvasem dunnufovz ev tdemi vu tvesv xovj, xjodj niept vjev opdsietoph vji tdemi ug qsufadvoup up zuas opfowofaem qsufadv fuitp'v pidittesomz dsievi e dussitqupfoph dutv tewopht ev vji nevisoemt miwim. Zua'mm tvomm hiv tuni gsun mecus/muhotvodt, cav og zuas qsufadv jet, tez, emnupft op ov, Vji dutv ug vji emnupft otp'v huppe hu xez fuxp katv cideati zua hu gsun 1 nommoup apovt vu 2. Og zua'si Cmai Foenupf, zua dep dsievi ev vji tdemi vu ci e nesliv nelis, cav uvjisxoti zua'si e qsodi velis.

O vjopl zuas'si quopv ecuav hivvoph vu lpux vjios catopitt nufimt ot tquv up. O'wi ciip muuloph ev ov vuu tonqmotvodemmz, O'wi cetodemmz ciip muuloph gus du-qedlist op Iasuqi (dmuti vu nepagedvasist) vjev dep qedl op tonomes qedlehoph vu at. O vjopl O piif vu ci e cov nusi gudatif op xjev O'n etloph gus aqgsupv.

Vji dunnufovz ottai ot jesf cideati vji nesliv lpuxt vji wemai ug vji qsufadv tu vji liz ot op hivvoph hov qedlif djieqmz. Vjisi otp'v nadj suun vu nuwi up qsodi, ov't wisz nesliv fsowip. O'f moli vu nuwi up gsun vjot qsufadv cav ev vji nunipv ov't csophoph op vji moup tjesi ug qsugovt tu ov piift vu ci muulif egvis ev mietv apvom O hiv e djepdi vu fiwimuq vji catopitt nufim.

Vjeplt gus zuas jimq epf voni!
 
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