"Build a Real Business... not the "Self imposed EXPERT title" one

[biophase]

Most people chase money, becase they think ONLY about THE MONEY.

- People with empathy should consider to think about all circumstances. And try to look for something that fits their personality type.

Stop thinking "that will make me rich" ... and the next week "that will make me rich". See, you only think about the MONEY.

If you give it some time, you will hit your destiny path with a real TANGIBLE business. And by this, can be respected by people who are grounded too. Those who doesn't just do it for the money. But "how you make" it too.

BECAUSE, and this is a BIG, BECAUSE, especially on the INTERNET:

We don't need more Ra-Ra Gurus. And people with a self imposed EXPERT TITLE, flooding markets with MEDICORE advice. On just about EVERYTHING!!! Only because they HAVE the ability, to open their mouth or type.

Don't be like this. Build something REAL and try to find your path.

Yes. I see the irony. Still, don't you agree that we need less RA-RA Gurus? (also I said... "if you give it some time", and I think that is the key... to get on a good respectable path. Instead of thinking only about the money.)

The irony here is that you started this thread about running "a real TANGIBLE business, And by this, can be respected by people who are grounded too. Those who doesn't just do it for the money. But "how you make" it too." Your words. And yet your business is domain investing?

I don't think that owning domains is wrong or bad. But does a business like this cashflow? Is it stable and sellable?

This is just one of those cases where it would have just been better to not start the thread. Just like the Ra-ra gurus that you are putting down because you don't think they practice what they preach, you are doing exactly the same.

 

[SlowlaneJay]

You're literally a fruit.

Hahahahaha. You guys are way off course here, but this made me laugh.

Do you know the difference between Cybersquatting and legit domain name investments?

Since we're entirely off topic, do you mind explaining the difference? I thought they were essentially the same thing. As I understand it, you buy a domain that you think someone will want to use, then you wait for that prophesy to come true. Is that not correct?

 

[Lex DeVille]

I hate you people.

I get your point. Definitely not the most useful choice of words.

You hate the action. Not the person.

If you hate the person, then you're in the wrong place.

 

[Lex DeVille]

I don't see Hypnosis as a legit field. Most of it is probably staged or people playing along. Ever thought about that possibility?? LOL. Study "communication", Instead of old a$$ Charlatans like Milton.

"Probably" - a key word.

It indicates a lack of study of the subject matter.

In other words, an opinion that doesn't come from legit knowledge or experience.

"Most" - another key word.

It indicates a lack of confidence in the belief itself.

It's a word we use to be artfully vague so we can later save face if our opinion changes.

What you've referred to here is called "Stage Hypnosis".

It's different from therapeutic hypnosis.

Wouldn't it make more sense to at least know the basics of what you're talking about before claiming it's bullshit?

P.S. Artfully vague describes a lot of Milton's methods. Perhaps you're trying to hypnotize us covertly?

 

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[Deleted35442]

I get your point. Definitely not the most useful choice of words.

You hate the action. Not the person.

If you hate the person, then you're in the wrong place.

He's talking about being a by the book 'ethical entrepreneur' and cybersquats. No, I'll re-clarify, I hate the person and the action. They're parasites. Another more extreme example: 2008 mortgage crisis with a plethora of predatory lending running wild with the same thing on repeat. Plenty of toxic action breeding toxic people part of that action. Be prepared boyz. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-25/table-set-next-financial-crisis

You failed to change my mind @SinisterLex While @Maxjohan may be a lesser evil than my above example, he's still a parasite and causing a lot of grief to bootstrapped entrepreneurs with a sound brand name that have go back to the drawing board because that domain is parked with a fat "For Sale" sign doing absolutely nothing and contributing nothing. http://www.geek-rant.com/rants/people/cyber-squatters-should-be-shot.html

Keep believing.

 

[SlowlaneJay]

Cybersquatting is when you register a domain name in bad faith. To try to profit from a trademark.

Personally I try to only buy up keyword domains. Something people could type-in to their browser or when searching Google.

Keyword domains: Diapers.com, Insurance.com, Leatherwallets.com, etc etc.

Cybersquatting: Ipodapple.com, BuyKindleFire.com, Fordcarparts.com

Thanks for the explanation. I still fail to see any real difference. Where's the value add? I'm not judging, just not quite sure how your gig is helping people vs. the cybersquatter routine.

Also—and maybe this will get us back on track—I'm all for gurus if they have good advice. Even the Ra-Ra kind.

There. I said it.

If you've done the research and you're contributing a new insight, a powerful perspective, or just something that gives me the kick in the a$$ I need to do something— I'll listen to you.

Besides, we all have to start somewhere.

That said, Gary has some good thoughts on this (11:09) and I respect his opinion:

But personally, I would never label myself a guru. And if you read most of my posts on here, I have a nasty habit of hedging my opinions with little disclaimers "just my 2¢…", "I'm still learning this stuff…", "personally…", "YMMV…", "here's what's worked for me…". This is precisely because I don't feel comfortable giving advice.

However…

When I have conversations with folks who've never picked up a single book on business; who've just had their very first business idea; who're only just beginning to see that the game exists, and haven't even yet begun to understand how it works… I feel pretty confident giving them my opinion.

Am I a guru? F*ck no.

But I do know that if someone comes to me and is in the same mental state I was a year ago, I can help them. I have 100% confidence in this. Both technically (this is how Wordpress works, this how to set up Facebook ads, this how to learn copywriting), and strategically (don't chase money, provide massive value, get your first customer, forget the trivial stuff, delegate).

Sure I have a lot to learn. But I'd be happy putting out a blog that helps folks stuck on Square One. I'd be comfortable being that guy; that Ra-Ra Guru.

Honestly, just because someone labels themselves a guru, shouldn't be a cause for concern. It's likely that a lot of the content you hate is simply not addressed to you. That's why it looks like mediocre shit. You're already above the level of their target audience.

Anyway. Just my 2¢ (see, I told you I do this shit all the time).

 

[iAmTrade]

I wasted my life reading these posts.

Thanks.

 

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[DaRK9]

What have you built to give me this advice?



If you haven't, I hope you see the irony.

 

[Kung Fu Steve]

I would also like to know who is a legit guru and who is a ra-ra guru...

... and speaking of the guru space -- get the hell outta my industry!

P.S. I'm probably a ra-ra guru.

P.P.S. @AndrewNC If I be one Ra, can you be the other Ra?

 

[AndrewNC]

Still, don't you agree that we need less RA-RA Gurus?

What's the difference between a RA-RA Guru and a legit guru?

 

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[SlowlaneJay]

Where is the value added day trading stocks?? Must everything have some type of measurable value??

I don't know enough about the stock market to have a good answer to that. Could be nothing. But from my limited understanding, doesn't trading stocks allow folks to own part of someone else company? Like a tiny stake in it? And then in turn the money spent on a stock comes back to the company and allows them to keep on doing what they do? That seems valuable.

The domain investing thing I don't get it.

How are you different from the people you're talking about in your first post? In one breath you tell folks to break out of the "that will make me rich" mindset, and in the next say that, "any domain name worth some money".

Sure. It's worth money. But what value you are you adding to world? What are you producing? As far as I understand it, all this does it is jack up the price for other entrepreneurs. Why not leave that to the shady folks who haven't learned how "to get on a good respectable path" yet?

Again, I hope I'm not offending you, it's not my intention. Just can't seem to see a difference between one and the other. How are you helping people?

I may have to consult the almighty Google on this one

 

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[Deleted35442]

I invest in domain names right now. But I got some stuff in the pipe now. Yes. I see the irony. Still, don't you agree that we need less RA-RA Gurus? (also I said... "if you give it some time", and I think that is the key... to get on a good respectable path. Instead of thinking only about the money.)

I hate you people. F*cking vultures. Sit on a domain and wait for a cash-strapped entrepreneur that can utilize it and actually build something unless they pay you. If I had it my way, I'd outlaw cybersquatting. Money makes the world go around, kiddo. You know because you hold domains hostage for a living. Do what I say, not as I do, right?

"if you give it some time" blah blah blah. Time, probably a commodity most here cherish about all else. We're not waiting till we think of a hot social enterprise that meets your criteria and makes us a mediocre 6 figs a year. You my friend are on the wrong forum. Coincidentally, not everyone here is trying to be a "guru" in some area. Though for the ones that are, it's tried and true and won't stop. I think after people here make their first $1mm they can be more selective in future projects. Till then, carry on all, do whatever it takes and don't let the moral expert @Maxjohan tell you otherwise.

 

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[Digamma]

I don't really understand most of the thread because it seems to have derailed to nonsense.
But. I do hate so called gurus who never walked the walk.
If you are to teach something, you need real experience. If you don't have direct experience, you are a scammer. Simple as that.
It doesn't matter how high quality the content. Real experience is different than all the theory in the world.

Aside: this is the reason I consider college a scam. 99% of teaching from "academics" who never actually lived in the real world. A joke.

causing a lot of grief to bootstrapped entrepreneurs with a sound brand name that have go back to the drawing board because that domain is parked with a fat "For Sale" sign doing absolutely nothing and contributing nothing.

How absolutely heart shattering. [HASHTAG]#PreyForBootstrappedEntrepreneurs[/HASHTAG]
Jokes aside, it is very annoying. every project is 90% finding a suitable unregistered domain these days.

 

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[Lex DeVille]

I'm reading upon it now. On Reddit. Okay??

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/swk6j/is_hypnosis_fake

haha, you kill me bro, but props to you because you're hitting hot buttons.

We wouldn't keep responding if you weren't.

That's a win in my book as long as you get something from it.

 

[Guest34764]

This whole thread.Some cringe-worthy dude arguing with a more cringe-worthy dude.Guess who's who.

Also from my understanding Jay,they're the same thing.

 

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[Maxjohan]

Most people chase money, becase they think ONLY about THE MONEY.

- People with empathy should consider to think about all circumstances. And try to look for something that fits their personality type.

Stop thinking "that will make me rich" ... and the next week "that will make me rich". See, you only think about the MONEY.

If you give it some time, you will hit your destiny path with a real TANGIBLE business. And by this, can be respected by people who are grounded too. Those who doesn't just do it for the money. But "how you make" it too.

BECAUSE, and this is a BIG, BECAUSE, especially on the INTERNET:

We don't need more Ra-Ra Gurus. And people with a self imoposed EXPERT TITLE, flooding markets with MEDICORE advice. On just about EVERYTHING!!! Only because they HAVE the ability, to open their mouth or type.

Don't be like this. Build something REAL and try to find your path.

 

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[AndrewNC]

Ra_Ra talks a lot of bullshit. An example for this. Tapping in to "subconscious", through tapes and stuff.

I know that you are wondering... and it’s a good thing to wonder...because... that means... you are learning many things... and all the things, all the things... that you can learn... provide you with new insights, and new understandings. And you can, can you not? One can, you know. And it’s more or less the right thing. You are sitting here, reading this, looking at this, and that means that your Unconscious Mind is also here, and can hear what I say. And since that’s the case, you are probably learning about this and already know more at an unconscious level than you think you do, and it’s not right for me to tell him, learn this or learn that, let him learn in any way he wants, in any order. Do you feel this... is something you understand? Because, last week I was with Milton who told me about his training in 1979 in Miami when he talked to someone who said, ‘You're unconscious... is real...’”

 

[Kung Fu Steve]

Hi. I now got that Milton refrence... man, did you put me into trance somehow?? hehe.

I just didn't figure out who this Milton guy was. But I used to read upon him in 2008-2009. While some things, may be true. Like that trance state by the handshake. Today I just don't see any big implementations for Hypnosis. As I am less interested in having power over people, and more interested in building wealth with my skills.

Not sure what the point of the thread is.

You would probably call Andrew and I "ra-ra" gurus but we've both built pretty successful businesses and sold them... and then continued on to build other businesses.

Not trying to burn you or anything -- just confused.

P.S.

Milton Erickson is thought to be one of the greatest psychologists of all time. His tool was hypno-therapy to affect change. He didn't shake people's hands to put them in a trance.

If we're talking about mental health there are huge implementations for it. over 60% of the U.S. is on at least 1 prescription drug to affect their emotional/mental health and mood.

 

[AndrewNC]

premonitory dreams

Those dreams are real and a lot of us have them. A lot of visions, even while awake.

It's way beyond the unconscious. This information that your'e experiencing is actually your ability to tap into the fifth dimension.

The whole universe is nothing more than a hologram..."the now" is nothing more than the energetic waves from your past colliding with the energetic waves of the future, causing a momentary change in the now. These waves of energy and vibrations are a hologram, which are actually created by you in your higher dimensional being.

And since this higher dimensional being, which is yourself in the future, is in control, that means you are in control of the your life and nobody can make you do or believe anything you don't want to believe. And that's powerful thinking, is it not?

So now that you already have the power to tap into the future, the next step is to learn how to change the waves of energy that are coming your way and soon enough you will feel them collide into the present moment, and at that point, you will realize that you are actually in control of not only predicting your future, but changing it before it happens, and making it come true.

Another thing you can do is change the fifth dimensional waves of the past, so when you change your past, you change your present moment, and a successful future for you is just a head of you, and interestingly enough, it's inevitable.

When you begin meditating on the feelings of love, gratefulness, and abundance, that is how you change the energy of the future that is coming your way, and that is the moment your life changed now for the better.

 

[AndrewNC]

By the way, I'm not cuckoo like Andrew... hehehehehe. You going to be at BnP? Don't you owe me a drink??

bahahah. Didn't you say the real test of a true NLPer is how crazy they sound when they talk? If not for anything else, at least the embedded commands were heard by his unconscious

The B&P thought is very tempting, but so is backpacking through southeast asia. Jason did one of those things again where he convinces others to move somewhere, and the moment I get my passport, he says he's flying back to the U.S right after I plan to get there haha.

Haven't forgot about the drink! This is your drink of choice, right?

 

[AndrewNC]

props to you because you're hitting hot buttons.

This is applicable to any type of Entrepreneur, having to suffer through dealing with these asshats. Like the link I posted, the only value they derive from the domains they register is the interest and hope that a Samsung or Zuckerburg will come along and buy it. Interestingly, the type you're mocking (the "bootstrap entrepreneur") are the ones that most of this forum is most composed of.

You're literally a fruit. Anyone here that has dealt with an @Maxjohan or two knows what a headache it is. Perhaps it's why we see bullshit brand names popping up like "Wanderu" just to avoid them. Think of any catchy brand name with some generic words in them and it will probably be owned by a cybersquatter (I was looking up variations of pay, paygo.com is one I came across, sure enough, one of these asshats is sitting on it).

Do you know who really grind my gears more than domain squatters? Those scammy copywriters! MANIPULATING others to buy useful stuff that they don't even need.

 

[Dark Water]

On domain name investing... if he doesn't do it, someone else will.

What does domain name investing imply? Buying tons of domain names and holding, with a price + contact on the home page, or does it imply slowly building up domains with SEO and relevant fresh content over time for sale later?

Surely, not the most ethical thing in the world when viewed from the lens of boot strap entrepreneurs. But surely, you haven't changed the lens: what if it was me, a kid fresh out of college, paying off debt, who sold a domain name I bought 3 years ago due to market analysis, to a large corporation for $30,000 and helped pay off student loans?

Are bootstrapped entrepreneurs the only ones paying the price? No, I think the majority paying the price are large corporations merging or taking on a new name that can casually drop thousands on a new name.

Bootstrap entrepreneurs will always find a way around such small obstacles like that. If a large company really wants a domain name, they will shovel out the cash.

---

Ra-ra gurus will always exist because people will always want shortcut their way to events, instead of processes and hard work. So therefore there is a market - so don't hate the player ( the rara guru) but hate the game (the masses who will pay for advice).

On a side note, my alaskan husky is nicknamed Ra-ra. Though not a guru in anything, besides being energetic.

 

[Dami-B]

Those dreams are real and a lot of us have them. A lot of visions, even while awake.

It's way beyond the unconscious. This information that your'e experiencing is actually your ability to tap into the fifth dimension.

The whole universe is nothing more than a hologram..."the now" is nothing more than the energetic waves from your past colliding with the energetic waves of the future, causing a momentary change in the now. These waves of energy and vibrations are a hologram, which are actually created by you in your higher dimensional being.

And since this higher dimensional being, which is yourself in the future, is in control, that means you are in control of the your life and nobody can make you do or believe anything you don't want to believe. And that's powerful thinking, is it not?

So now that you already have the power to tap into the future, the next step is to learn how to change the waves of energy that are coming your way and soon enough you will feel them collide into the present moment, and at that point, you will realize that you are actually in control of not only predicting your future, but changing it before it happens, and making it come true.

Another thing you can do is change the fifth dimensional waves of the past, so when you change your past, you change your present moment, and a successful future for you is just a head of you, and interestingly enough, it's inevitable.

When you begin meditating on the feelings of love, gratefulness, and abundance, that is how you change the energy of the future that is coming your way, and that is the moment your life changed now for the better.

I like the tap into the future analogy. Just because you're an acorn now, doesn't mean you would remain an acorn forever, if only you could look into the future and see the oak tree in you.

 

[DaRK9]

Being a broker and buying names in hopes you sell it for more are two totally different ball games.

 

[eekern]

Your intention with this thread was good:
1. Get motivated by helping, rather than getting rich
2. Listen to people who are in the trenches - not the once who are "earning money teaching how to earn money"

But still your response are revealing that your mindset is completely different.

Start looking at yourself, instead of thinking that everyone is agains you:
1. Why aren`t others threads escalate into arguments ?
2. Why is the other members with far less post and a lot more thanks/likes and rep ?

I am sure your feelings got hurt, since your message was great, and it got another response than expected.
But if you can`t handle this with a positive mindset in this thread, I am scared to think about how you would handle a bad customer or other negative challenges in your future business.

We are here to provide value, first of all. It is no argument unless you make it one..

 

[AndrewNC]

I would also like to know who is a legit guru and who is a ra-ra guru...

... and speaking of the guru space -- get the hell outta my industry!

P.S. I'm probably a ra-ra guru.

P.P.S. @AndrewNC If I be one Ra, can you be the other Ra?

Already filed for the trademark for the other Ra, and got our sales video one. All we need to do now is put it on a loop.

 

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[Lex DeVille]

Hi. I now gt that Milton refrence... man, did you put me into trance somehow?? hehe.

I just didn't figure out who this Milton guy was. But I used to read upon him in 2008-2009. While some things, may be true. Like that trance state by the handshake. Today I just don't see any big implementations for Hypnosis. As I am less interested in having power over people, and more interested in building wealth with my skills.

Yes, I agree.

Definitely no use for Milton's methods in today's world.

Especially not for copywriting.

 

[Kung Fu Steve]

I don't see Hypnosis as a legit field. Most of it is probably staged or people playing along. Ever thought about that possibility?? LOL. Study "communication" or straight out copywriting.

Then you have no idea what you're talking about. See previous post.

 

[Kung Fu Steve]

He's talking about being a by the book 'ethical entrepreneur' and cybersquats. No, I'll re-clarify, I hate the person and the action. They're parasites. Another more extreme example: 2008 mortgage crisis with a plethora of predatory lending running wild with the same thing on repeat. Plenty of toxic action breeding toxic people part of that action. Be prepared boyz. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-25/table-set-next-financial-crisis

You failed to change my mind @SinisterLex While @Maxjohan may be a lesser evil that my above example, he's still a parasite and causing a lot of grief to bootstrapped entrepreneurs with a sound brand name that have go back to the drawing board because that domain is parked with a fat "For Sale" sign doing absolutely nothing and contributing nothing. http://www.geek-rant.com/rants/people/cyber-squatters-should-be-shot.html

Keep believing.

Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed ;-)

 

[Deleted35442]

I don't really understand most of the thread because it seems to have derailed to nonsense.
But. I do hate so called gurus who never walked the walk.
If you are to teach something, you need real experience. If you don't have direct experience, you are a scammer. Simple as that.
It doesn't matter how high quality the content. Real experience is different than all the theory in the world.

Aside: this is the reason I consider college a scam. 99% of teaching from "academics" who never actually lived in the real world. A joke.

How absolutely heart shattering. [HASHTAG]#PreyForBootstrappedEntrepreneurs[/HASHTAG]
Jokes aside, it is very annoying. every project is 90% finding a suitable unregistered domain these days.

This is applicable to any type of Entrepreneur, having to suffer through dealing with these asshats. Like the link I posted, the only value they derive from the domains they register is the interest and hope that a Samsung or Zuckerburg will come along and buy it. Interestingly, the type you're mocking (the "bootstrap entrepreneur") are the ones that most of this forum is composed of.

You're literally a fruit. Anyone here that has dealt with an @Maxjohan or two knows what a headache it is. Perhaps it's why we see bullshit brand names popping up like "Wanderu" just to avoid them. Think of any catchy brand name with some generic words in them and it will probably be owned by a cybersquatter (I was looking up variations of pay, paygo.com is one I came across, sure enough, one of these asshats is sitting on it).

 

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