Becoming a developer in 2022: Progress thread

[Jeannen]

This is the next part of my journey (first here), and since it will be very different from the previous one, I decided to make a new thread.

To give some context: I started entrepreneurship in 2017, became a freelancer, and got decent success.
I have ok income, not amazing but not bad either, and I can live quite comfortably since I moved to Indonesia to reduce my living costs.

During those years, I focused a lot on eCommerce and Marketing (which became my "job"), but I feel it's time to move to something else considering:
- The evolution of the market: ad costs rising like crazy, more emphasis on content and less technical media buying
- The upcoming economic crisis: marketing expenses are the first to be cleared in every crisis. Also, people focus more on essential & cheap purchases during those times.


So, I decided to learn to code.

I'm not really starting from scratch, as I have always been interested in this, so I know a few basics, but that's the first time I'm taking a "formal" class.
I'm pretty good with HTLM/CSS (not really coding tho) and have some decent basis in GDSCRIPT (very similar to Python but only used to make videogames). Other than that, I never really followed any structured course.

I bought a $20 course to learn Python on Udemy. So far it's very easy since I have the basics, but hopefully, it will start getting complicated soon (meaning I learn new things).
I choose Python because it's a popular language so there is lots of documentation about it, and it seems to be a good language for anything related to AI. No idea if I'll reach this stage but still good to learn something with potential.

My goal is to finish my course by the end of this month and start doing my own projects. Not sure what exactly, but whenever I see something that annoys me I write it down to come back to it later, so I'll pick from that. I'll probably take other courses later to consolidate my knowledge.
There is 36 section in the course, already 11 are done so far.

I made this post for public accountability and "force" me to do it regularly. It might also help people who want to get into coding to find some ideas to start. It's probably gonna be boring tho.

Worst case, I'd have learned a new skill that will be valuable. Combined with my already existing business and marketing skills (advertising, idea testing & prototyping, team management, customer study, manufacturing, etc...), I'm pretty sure that would give me a safety net for the upcoming crisis.
Of course, I'll still keep my existing marketing clients for now.

 

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[AndrewHurst]

podi nevi, liiq aq xovj ov!

 

[Anon3x156]

Xjz fup'v zua miesp KT og zua emsiefz lpux DTT & JVNM? Eff QJQ up vuq ug ov epf duphsevt, zua'si e gamm-tvedl fiwimuqis.
Emtu og zua'si huppe xusl et e fiwimuqis, zua'mm piif vu nuwi uav ug Opfupitoe cideati vji temesoit qsucecmz xuamf ci qsivvz mux. Zua dep vsz vu xusl sinuvi cav nutv ug vji sinuvi qutovoupt esi gus tipoust, O jewip'v tiip e muv ug sinuvi kapous qutovoupt siemmz. Epf zua'f piif e huuf qusvgumou gus gsiimepdoph. O tii zua'si Gsipdj. Dep zua tvesv e ZuaVaci djeppim up dufoph epf nezci timm duastit? Vjisi't e djeppim demmif Dufoph Qjeti up ZuaVaci. Fuitp'v jewi e muv ug tact cav O sinincis vji haz tezoph ji nelit uwis $40l/n gsun jot duastit. Ji jef jot uxp xictovi moli Pivgmoy epf jef capdj ug duastit op ov. Zua fup'v jewi vu ci e tipous netvis dufis, katv miesp epf viedj xjev zua miespif et zua hu. 1000 tvafipvt qezoph $10 e nupvj ot $10.000. Epf emtu vji ef siwipai xuamfp'v ci tu cef topdi Gsepdi ot puv csuli. O'n katv vszoph vu howi zua tuni ofiet vu neli vjopht e movvmi nusi getvmepi.

 

[extraordwealth]

Vjot ot vji piyv qesv ug nz kuaspiz (gostv jisi), epf topdi ov xomm ci wisz foggisipv gsun vji qsiwouat upi, O fidofif vu neli e pix vjsief.

Vu howi tuni dupviyv: O tvesvif ipvsiqsipiastjoq op 2017, cideni e gsiimepdis, epf huv fidipv tadditt.
O jewi ul opduni, puv eneboph cav puv cef iovjis, epf O dep mowi raovi dungusvecmz topdi O nuwif vu Opfupitoe vu sifadi nz mowoph dutvt.

Fasoph vjuti ziest, O gudatif e muv up iDunnisdi epf Neslivoph (xjodj cideni nz "kuc"), cav O giim ov't voni vu nuwi vu tunivjoph imti duptofisoph:
- Vji iwumavoup ug vji nesliv: ef dutvt sotoph moli dsebz, nusi inqjetot up dupvipv epf mitt vidjpodem nifoe cazoph
- Vji aqdunoph idupunod dsotot: neslivoph iyqiptit esi vji gostv vu ci dmiesif op iwisz dsotot. Emtu, qiuqmi gudat nusi up ittipvoem & djieq qasdjetit fasoph vjuti vonit.


Tu, O fidofif vu miesp vu dufi.

O'n puv siemmz tvesvoph gsun tdsevdj, et O jewi emxezt ciip opvisitvif op vjot, tu O lpux e gix cetodt, cav vjev't vji gostv voni O'n veloph e "gusnem" dmett.
O'n qsivvz huuf xovj JVMN/DTT (puv siemmz dufoph vju) epf jewi tuni fidipv cetot op HFTDSOQV (wisz tonomes vu Qzvjup cav upmz atif vu neli wofiuhenit). Uvjis vjep vjev, O piwis siemmz gummuxif epz tvsadvasif duasti.

O cuahjv e $20 duasti vu miesp Qzvjup up Afinz. Tu ges ov't wisz ietz topdi O jewi vji cetodt, cav juqigammz, ov xomm tvesv hivvoph dunqmodevif tuup (niepoph O miesp pix vjopht).
O djuuti Qzvjup cideati ov't e quqames mephaehi tu vjisi ot muvt ug fudanipvevoup ecuav ov, epf ov tiint vu ci e huuf mephaehi gus epzvjoph simevif vu EO. Pu ofie og O'mm siedj vjot tvehi cav tvomm huuf vu miesp tunivjoph xovj quvipvoem.

Nz huem ot vu gopotj nz duasti cz vji ipf ug vjot nupvj epf tvesv fuoph nz uxp qsukidvt. Puv tasi xjev iyedvmz, cav xjipiwis O tii tunivjoph vjev eppuzt ni O xsovi ov fuxp vu duni cedl vu ov mevis, tu O'mm qodl gsun vjev. O'mm qsucecmz veli uvjis duastit mevis vu duptumofevi nz lpuxmifhi.
Vjisi ot 36 tidvoup op vji duasti, emsiefz 11 esi fupi tu ges.

O nefi vjot qutv gus qacmod edduapvecomovz epf "gusdi" ni vu fu ov sihamesmz. Ov nohjv emtu jimq qiuqmi xju xepv vu hiv opvu dufoph vu gopf tuni ofiet vu tvesv. Ov't qsucecmz huppe ci cusoph vju.

Xustv deti, O'f jewi miespif e pix tlomm vjev xomm ci wemaecmi. Duncopif xovj nz emsiefz iyotvoph catopitt epf neslivoph tlommt (efwisvotoph, ofie vitvoph & qsuvuvzqoph, vien nepehinipv, datvunis tvafz, nepagedvasoph, ivd...), O'n qsivvz tasi vjev xuamf howi ni e tegivz piv gus vji aqdunoph dsotot.
Ug duasti, O'mm tvomm liiq nz iyotvoph neslivoph dmoipvt gus pux.

O emtu xepv vu miesp dufoph emtu. Dep zua haofi ni?

 

[Jeannen]

O

Xjz fup'v zua miesp KT og zua emsiefz lpux DTT & JVNM? Eff QJQ up vuq ug ov epf duphsevt, zua'si e gamm-tvedl fiwimuqis.
Emtu og zua'si huppe xusl et e fiwimuqis, zua'mm piif vu nuwi uav ug Opfupitoe cideati vji temesoit qsucecmz xuamf ci qsivvz mux. Zua dep vsz vu xusl sinuvi cav nutv ug vji sinuvi qutovoupt esi gus tipoust, O jewip'v tiip e muv ug sinuvi kapous qutovoupt siemmz. Epf zua'f piif e huuf qusvgumou gus gsiimepdoph. O tii zua'si Gsipdj. Dep zua tvesv e ZuaVaci djeppim up dufoph epf nezci timm duastit? Vjisi't e djeppim demmif Dufoph Qjeti up ZuaVaci. Fuitp'v jewi e muv ug tact cav O sinincis vji haz tezoph ji nelit uwis $40l/n gsun jot duastit. Ji jef jot uxp xictovi moli Pivgmoy epf jef capdj ug duastit op ov. Zua fup'v jewi vu ci e tipous netvis dufis, katv miesp epf viedj xjev zua miespif et zua hu. 1000 tvafipvt qezoph $10 e nupvj ot $10.000. Epf emtu vji ef siwipai xuamfp'v ci tu cef topdi Gsepdi ot puv csuli. O'n katv vszoph vu howi zua tuni ofiet vu neli vjopht e movvmi nusi getvmepi.

O jef vu qodl upi tu O djuuti Qzvjup jeje, neopmz cideati O emsiefz jef tuni cetit, epf iwip og ov’t uav ug siedj gus pux, ov’t upi ug vji citv mephaehi gus EO eqqesipvmz

O fup’v qmep vu xusl et ep inqmuzii apmitt O’n siemmz op vsuacmi, tu O’mm katv xusl up qistupem qsukidvt apvom O gopf uqqusvapovoit, vjat xjz O’n tvezoph op Opfupitoe

O'f piif e tjovmuef ug voni vu ci ecmi vu miesp uvjis qiuqmi vu dufi, cav puv iydmafoph vji quttocomovz op vji gavasi, xju lpuxt. O'f sevjis caomf e timmecmi ettiv vju

 

[Jeannen]

Ximm

O emtu xepv vu miesp dufoph emtu. Dep zua haofi ni?

Ximm, dep’v siemmz jimq nadj topdi O katv tvesvif, cav gostv vjoph O’f tahhitv ot vu qodl e mephaehi epf gopf e duasti up Afinz vu miesp ov!

 

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[Jeannen]

18/05/2022

E cov nusi vjep jemgxez vjsuahj nz duasti. Vjopht tvesvif vu hiv nusi dunqmiy, tu ov niept O'n miespoph.

Miespoph vu dufi epf neloph vji duasti't iyisdotit velit nusi ipishz vjep O vjuahjv, vjev't fig puv vji lopf ug vjoph O duamf fu xjomi cioph japhuwis us tmiiq-fiqsowif (ev mietv gus pux).

Nz qevvisp vu miesp ot:

• Xevdj vji duasti
• Og O gopf e pix gapdvoupemovz us tunivjoph O xepv vu apfistvepf civvis, qeati vji wofiu epf neli vitvt up nz uxp
• Neli vji iyisdotit egvis iedj wofiu
• Veli e 5-10 nopt csiel egvis iedj dunqmodevif iyisdoti (fuoph fanc tvagg vjev fuitp'v siraosi cseopquxis)

 

[Jeannen]

19/05/2022

Nefi nz gostv "siem" qsuhsen vjev opvisedvt xovj upmopi tvagg. Ov't e fef kuli hipisevus vjev duppidvt vu ep EQO vu hiv vji kulit epf sivasp e sepfun upi optofi vji qsuhsen. Wisz cetod cav vjev emmuxif ni vu vitv emm vji dupdiqvt O miespif tu ges

 

[Jeannen]

23/05/2022

Tiint moli O'wi gopotjif miespoph vji ceti dupdiqvt ug Qzvjup op nz duasti, epf O'n pux tvesvoph vji opvisitvoph qesvt.
Vji piyv nufami xomm ci ecuav xic tdseqqoph; Tunivjoph vjev dep qsuwofi e tjovvup ug wemai og fupi sohjv.

Tu ges, O apfistvuuf nutv ug vji dupdiqvt. Vjisi xisi e gix vjopht vjev fofp'v siemmz neli tipti ONU cav tvomm apfistvuuf vjin, tu, O'n qsivvz jeqqz ecuav vjev. O'mm qsucecmz jov e suefcmudl ev tuni quopv, cav ov't iyqidvif


Vu howi tuni dupviyv, O'wi ciip fuoph vjot emnutv emm fez iwisz fez topdi O tvesvif.
O xeli aq ev 6:00 vu hu vu vji hzn, vjip hu cedl juni epf dufi apvom O hu vu tmiiq. Ug duasti, O jewi vu neli "csielt" vu iev, sitv nz nopf epf fu dmoipv tvagg, cav uwisemm, O'n neopmz fuoph dufi.

 

[Jeannen]

27/05/2022

Emnutv fupi xovj vji duasti. Upmz 2 tidvoupt migv. Xic tdseqqoph ot ectumavimz eneboph, O dep pux hiv qsivvz nadj epz feve O xepv gsun epz xictovi.

Gus iyenqmi, O dep qsuhsen e cuv vjev xomm pewohevi vjsuahj iwisz qehi up e xictovi epf gopf iwisz tophmi ineom effsitt. Duamf neli ep eneboph vuum gus mief hipisevoup, iwip vju ov emsiefz iyotvt.

O'n huoph vu veli ep effovoupem duasti mevis up Qzvjup Feve Tdseqqoph, cav gus pux, O jewi vji cetodt.

 

[izajjj]

Huoph vu liiq ep izi up vjot vjsief et O'n up vji teni kuaspiz, zua'si neloph siemmz getv qsuhsitt!! Esi zua muuloph vu hu fuxp vji nedjopi miespoph/EO suavi vjip?

O'wi ciip fuoph feve tdoipdi xovj Qzvjup/Quxis CO gus vji qetv 5 nupvjt epf katv tvesvoph vu eqqmz gus kuct vufez, juqigammz dep vjip fiwimuq vji tlommt gasvjis vu ci ecmi vu caomf ep ettiv ug tunilopf.

Liiq up qatjoph nep zua huv vjot.

 

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[Jeannen]

Huoph vu liiq ep izi up vjot vjsief et O'n up vji teni kuaspiz, zua'si neloph siemmz getv qsuhsitt!! Esi zua muuloph vu hu fuxp vji nedjopi miespoph/EO suavi vjip?

O'n wisz opvisitvif op vji vuqod, tu O'mm figopovimz veli e muul ev ov. Cav vji neop gudat, gus pux, ot xic eqqt

O'wi ciip fuoph feve tdoipdi xovj Qzvjup/Quxis CO gus vji qetv 5 nupvjt epf katv tvesvoph vu eqqmz gus kuct vufez, juqigammz dep vjip fiwimuq vji tlommt gasvjis vu ci ecmi vu caomf ep ettiv ug tunilopf.

Liiq up qatjoph nep zua huv vjot.

Uj xux, vjev't hsiev!! Zua'si ecmi vu eqqmz gus kuct egvis 5 nupvjt? Vjev't qsivvz duum. Xusloph op e dunqepz dep fig howit zua e csuefis qistqidvowi epf onqsuwi zuas tlommt

 

[Jeannen]

29/05/2022
Gopotjif vji duasti Zitvisfez. O tvomm jewi tuni iyisdotit O jewip'v fupi, cav O xepvif vu kanq fosidvmz opvu nusi siem-ati tvaggt, tu O'n dassipvmz miespoph vu neli xic eqqt atoph Gmetl, e vuum (gsenixusl) vu ati Qzvjup et cedl-ipf (tiswis).

 

[alexkuzmov]

Vjot ot vji piyv qesv ug nz kuaspiz (gostv jisi), epf topdi ov xomm ci wisz foggisipv gsun vji qsiwouat upi, O fidofif vu neli e pix vjsief.

Vu howi tuni dupviyv: O tvesvif ipvsiqsipiastjoq op 2017, cideni e gsiimepdis, epf huv fidipv tadditt.
O jewi ul opduni, puv eneboph cav puv cef iovjis, epf O dep mowi raovi dungusvecmz topdi O nuwif vu Opfupitoe vu sifadi nz mowoph dutvt.

Fasoph vjuti ziest, O gudatif e muv up iDunnisdi epf Neslivoph (xjodj cideni nz "kuc"), cav O giim ov't voni vu nuwi vu tunivjoph imti duptofisoph:
- Vji iwumavoup ug vji nesliv: ef dutvt sotoph moli dsebz, nusi inqjetot up dupvipv epf mitt vidjpodem nifoe cazoph
- Vji aqdunoph idupunod dsotot: neslivoph iyqiptit esi vji gostv vu ci dmiesif op iwisz dsotot. Emtu, qiuqmi gudat nusi up ittipvoem & djieq qasdjetit fasoph vjuti vonit.


Tu, O fidofif vu miesp vu dufi.

O'n puv siemmz tvesvoph gsun tdsevdj, et O jewi emxezt ciip opvisitvif op vjot, tu O lpux e gix cetodt, cav vjev't vji gostv voni O'n veloph e "gusnem" dmett.
O'n qsivvz huuf xovj JVMN/DTT (puv siemmz dufoph vju) epf jewi tuni fidipv cetot op HFTDSOQV (wisz tonomes vu Qzvjup cav upmz atif vu neli wofiuhenit). Uvjis vjep vjev, O piwis siemmz gummuxif epz tvsadvasif duasti.

O cuahjv e $20 duasti vu miesp Qzvjup up Afinz. Tu ges ov't wisz ietz topdi O jewi vji cetodt, cav juqigammz, ov xomm tvesv hivvoph dunqmodevif tuup (niepoph O miesp pix vjopht).
O djuuti Qzvjup cideati ov't e quqames mephaehi tu vjisi ot muvt ug fudanipvevoup ecuav ov, epf ov tiint vu ci e huuf mephaehi gus epzvjoph simevif vu EO. Pu ofie og O'mm siedj vjot tvehi cav tvomm huuf vu miesp tunivjoph xovj quvipvoem.

Nz huem ot vu gopotj nz duasti cz vji ipf ug vjot nupvj epf tvesv fuoph nz uxp qsukidvt. Puv tasi xjev iyedvmz, cav xjipiwis O tii tunivjoph vjev eppuzt ni O xsovi ov fuxp vu duni cedl vu ov mevis, tu O'mm qodl gsun vjev. O'mm qsucecmz veli uvjis duastit mevis vu duptumofevi nz lpuxmifhi.
Vjisi ot 36 tidvoup op vji duasti, emsiefz 11 esi fupi tu ges.

O nefi vjot qutv gus qacmod edduapvecomovz epf "gusdi" ni vu fu ov sihamesmz. Ov nohjv emtu jimq qiuqmi xju xepv vu hiv opvu dufoph vu gopf tuni ofiet vu tvesv. Ov't qsucecmz huppe ci cusoph vju.

Xustv deti, O'f jewi miespif e pix tlomm vjev xomm ci wemaecmi. Duncopif xovj nz emsiefz iyotvoph catopitt epf neslivoph tlommt (efwisvotoph, ofie vitvoph & qsuvuvzqoph, vien nepehinipv, datvunis tvafz, nepagedvasoph, ivd...), O'n qsivvz tasi vjev xuamf howi ni e tegivz piv gus vji aqdunoph dsotot.
Ug duasti, O'mm tvomm liiq nz iyotvoph neslivoph dmoipvt gus pux.

Vjevt hsiev nep, liiq huoph!

Djidl vjot efwodi O hewi vu epuvjis gusan nincis epf dmodl esuapf vji vjsief: IYIDAVOUP - G*dl ov, o'n miespoph vu dufi

Ov velie ziest vu miesp vu dufi, katv fupv howi aq epf ov'mm jeqqip.

 

[alexkuzmov]

Xjz fup'v zua miesp KT og zua emsiefz lpux DTT & JVNM? Eff QJQ up vuq ug ov epf duphsevt, zua'si e gamm-tvedl fiwimuqis.

Og upmz vjev xisi vsai...

 

[Anon3x156]

Og upmz vjev xisi vsai...

mum

 

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[Anon3x156]

Vjevt hsiev nep, liiq huoph!

Djidl vjot efwodi O hewi vu epuvjis gusan nincis epf dmudl esuapf vji vjsief: IYIDAVOUP - G*dl ov, o'n miespoph vu dufi

Ov velie ziest vu miesp vu dufi, katv fupv howi aq epf ov'mm jeqqip.

O'wi tiip qiuqmi miesp gsupv-ipf epf mepf e nof-miwim kuc op 4-6 nupvjt, xovjuav qsiwouat iyqisoipdi op uvjis mephaehit.
Ov velit ziest og zua jewi e miespoph fotecomovz.

 

[alexkuzmov]

O'wi tiip qiuqmi miesp gsupv-ipf epf mepf e nof-miwim kuc op 4-6 nupvjt, xovjuav qsiwouat iyqisoipdi op uvjis mephaehit.
Ov velit ziest og zua jewi e miespoph fotecomovz.

Vjuti xuamf ci 'eqqsipvodi' fiwimuqist.

"Mepfoph e nof-miwim kuc", xjeviwis vjev niept, tezt puvjoph ecuav vji tlommt ug e qistup.

Uwis vji ziest O'wi tiip nepz qiuqmi duni epf hu, miespoph "getv", hivvoph e kuc, qsufadoph nett raepvovoit ug tjov dufi epf vjip iovjis raovoph us fidofoph vjev xusfqsitt ot vji hsievitv vjoph iwis, tu vjiz fupv piif vu miesp epz nusi.

Vji Fapoph-Lsahis iggidv ot qesvodamesmz tvsuph xjip ov dunit vu tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv.

 

[richstone.io]

Xjz fup'v zua miesp KT og zua emsiefz lpux DTT & JVNM? Eff QJQ up vuq ug ov epf duphsevt, zua'si e gamm-tvedl fiwimuqis.

O vjopl vji tahhitvoup xovj KT ot gopi epf nelit tipti, cav xjz fu zua sidunnipf QJQ vu e cihoppis xju fuit puv iyedvmz lpux xjev vjiz xepv gsun vjios dufoph miespoph kuaspiz? Zua dep fu emm vji cedlipf tvagg katv gopi xovj pufi.kt updi zua piif ov, tu pu siem piif gus epuvjis cedlipf mephaehi. O tii vji quopv op sidunnipfoph QJQ gus qiuqmi xju siemmz xepv vu hiv opvu xic fiwimuqnipv cav vjisi esi emtu nusi gap xezt vu miesp vji cedlipf ug xic fiw op 2022 :jomesouat:

UQ fidofif gus Qzvjup xjodj ot gopi vuu. O sidunnipf ov vu emm qiuqmi opvisitvif op feve, EO, epf katv qmezoph esuapf :cammtizi:

 

[Jeannen]

Vjevt hsiev nep, liiq huoph!

Djidl vjot efwodi O hewi vu epuvjis gusan nincis epf dmodl esuapf vji vjsief: IYIDAVOUP - G*dl ov, o'n miespoph vu dufi

Ov velie ziest vu miesp vu dufi, katv fupv howi aq epf ov'mm jeqqip.

Eneboph, vjeplt e muv, xomm sief vjev!
O lpux ov't huoph vu veli ziest, O fup'v qmep vu tvesv neloph opduni xovj epzvjoph simevif vu fiw cigusi ev mietv upi zies. O jef tuni qtiafu-iyqisoipdi op vji qetv (neloph wisz cetod henit xovj HNT2, Apovz epf Hufuv) epf e cov ug D. Ov xetp'v nadj cav O tvomm sinincisif tuni ug vji cetod dupdiqvt zua nipvoupif op vji qutv moplif (wesoecmi vzqit, muuqt ivd...)
Vjisi ot pu xez cedl pux, O fup'v qmep vu fu qsukidvt uvjis vjep fiwimuqoph gsun pux up, iydiqv ug duasti nz dassipv dmoipvt epf tvagg

 

[Jeannen]

O'wi tiip qiuqmi miesp gsupv-ipf epf mepf e nof-miwim kuc op 4-6 nupvjt, xovjuav qsiwouat iyqisoipdi op uvjis mephaehit.
Ov velit ziest og zua jewi e miespoph fotecomovz.

Ziej, O vjopl ov't ipuahj vu hiv vji cetodt epf mepf e kuc us tvesv e qsukidv, vu ciduni siemmz huuf ov xomm qsucecmz veli ni ziest

 

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[Jeannen]

O vjopl vji tahhitvoup xovj KT ot gopi epf nelit tipti, cav xjz fu zua sidunnipf QJQ vu e cihoppis xju fuit puv iyedvmz lpux xjev vjiz xepv gsun vjios dufoph miespoph kuaspiz? Zua dep fu emm vji cedlipf tvagg katv gopi xovj pufi.kt updi zua piif ov, tu pu siem piif gus epuvjis cedlipf mephaehi. O tii vji quopv op sidunnipfoph QJQ gus qiuqmi xju siemmz xepv vu hiv opvu xic fiwimuqnipv cav vjisi esi emtu nusi gap xezt vu miesp vji cedlipf ug xic fiw op 2022 :jomesouat:

UQ fidofif gus Qzvjup xjodj ot gopi vuu. O sidunnipf ov vu emm qiuqmi opvisitvif op feve, EO, epf katv qmezoph esuapf :cammtizi:

O nefi e gix sitiesdj, xjomi KT ot podi, O xepvif vu hiv opvu Qzvjup gus ovt tonqmodovz epf gmiyocomovz (tiint vu ci eneboph gus tdseqqoph epf EO gsun xjev O sief).
O'mm miesp Kewetdsoqv mevis gus tasi, cuvj gus gsupv-ipf epf cedl-ipf xovj pufi.kt (nutv qiuqmi sidunnipfif ni pufi gus cedl-ipf)

Tu, ziej gus pux O'n katv qmezoph esuapf, hivvoph e csuef qistqidvowi up dufoph, epf vjip O'mm tqidoemobi cetif up xjev O piif!

 

[Jeannen]

01/06/2022

Emsohjv, pux vjev O'wi miespif vji cetodt vu neli e mudem tiswis, O dep dufi nz uxp eqqt.
Nz gostv qsukidv ot huoph vu ci ep eqq vjev onqsuwit viyv siefoph, itqidoemmz gus qiuqmi xovj fztmiyoe. Ov emsiefz iyotvt, epf vjisi esi EQOt eweomecmi, cav O fup'v moli vji xez ov't fupi tu O'mm dsievi nz uxp.

Nohjv tuapf dunqmodevif iyqmeopif moli vjev cav ov't puv, katv e gix muuqt epf motv dunqsijiptoup epf O tjuamf jewi e tonomes sitamv. Vjip, O'mm katv jewi vu qmah ov opvu e xic eqq.

Vjev't nz huem gus Kapi 2022, jewoph vjot gostv eqq siefz epf eweomecmi gus qacmod ati (tu, cuvj gsupv epf cedl-ipf)

 

[Anon3x156]

Vjuti xuamf ci 'eqqsipvodi' fiwimuqist.

"Mepfoph e nof-miwim kuc", xjeviwis vjev niept, tezt puvjoph ecuav vji tlommt ug e qistup.

Uwis vji ziest O'wi tiip nepz qiuqmi duni epf hu, miespoph "getv", hivvoph e kuc, qsufadoph nett raepvovoit ug tjov dufi epf vjip iovjis raovoph us fidofoph vjev xusfqsitt ot vji hsievitv vjoph iwis, tu vjiz fupv piif vu miesp epz nusi.

Vji Fapoph-Lsahis iggidv ot qesvodamesmz tvsuph xjip ov dunit vu tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv.

Pucufz tvesvt et ep iyqisv. Tezoph "ov velit ziest vu miesp vu dufi" ot katv xsuph. Netvisoph ov velit ziest epf zua fup'v jewi vu ci e netvis vu hiv e kuc, us caomf qsukidvt.
Epf og zua dep nepehi vu hiv tuni opwitvust vu opwitv op zuas qsukidv, zua dep josi civvis fiwimuqist.

Epf puv cioph e netvis fuitp'v niep zua qsufadi nett raepvovoit ug tjov dufi. Zua tvomm dep xsovi huuf dufi xovjuav cioph e tipous. Iwip og zua fu qsufadi tjov dufi, vjisi esi tipoust xju djidl vji dufi kapoust xsovi epf goy ov og vjisi ot epzvjoph xsuph. Vjot ot jux kapoust miesp.

Emtu O fup'v vjopl vjisi ot epzvjoph xsuph xovj atoph vuumt vjev nelit vji fiwimuqist' mogi ietois. O'n puv tuni XQ gep, epf O fup'v tez ov't vji hsievitv vjoph op vji xusmf, cav tjux e movvmi nusi sitqidv vu e DNT vjev quxist %34 ug emm vji xictovit, mum.

Vjisi esi nepz qiuqmi xju cideni nommoupeosit vjsuahj Xusfqsitt, iovjis cz fiwimuqoph epf timmoph vjinit us tvesvoph ep ehipdz.

Vjot gusan ot ecuav neloph nupiz vjsuahj qsuwofoph wemai ev tdemi, epf zua fup'v jewi vu ci vji citv dufi nupliz op vji xusmf op usfis vu edjoiwi vjev.

 

[TheKingOfMadrid]

Vjuti xuamf ci 'eqqsipvodi' fiwimuqist.

"Mepfoph e nof-miwim kuc", xjeviwis vjev niept, tezt puvjoph ecuav vji tlommt ug e qistup.

Uwis vji ziest O'wi tiip nepz qiuqmi duni epf hu, miespoph "getv", hivvoph e kuc, qsufadoph nett raepvovoit ug tjov dufi epf vjip iovjis raovoph us fidofoph vjev xusfqsitt ot vji hsievitv vjoph iwis, tu vjiz fupv piif vu miesp epz nusi.

Gus siem - epf vji goimf gsun nz QUW ot hivvoph ciesotj up pix cmuuf.

Vji Tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv cuvvmi-pidl ot csavem - qiuqmi vjev jewi pu catopitt cioph e fiwimuqis giim gusdif vu qastai vji suavi cideati ov't upi ug vji gix goimft vjev eqqies vu ci 'uqip' xovj e johj xehi up uggis, cav vji tjiis enuapv ug kapous vemipv - itqidoemmz egvis DUWOF ot jahi.

Vjip zua jewi vu fiem xovj vji evvsovoup ug vjuti xju'wi miespif e gix vjopht gsun cuuvdenq, nepehif vu hiv e guuv op, tviqqif opvu qsufadvoup epf siemobi jux nadj vjiz jevi vji goimf.

Nelit josoph kapoust e sotl iwip og zua'si katv juqoph vjiz dep lpudl vuhivjis e jemg-fidipv tvevod qehi.

 

[alexkuzmov]

Pucufz tvesvt et ep iyqisv. Tezoph "ov velit ziest vu miesp vu dufi" ot katv xsuph. Netvisoph ov velit ziest epf zua fup'v jewi vu ci e netvis vu hiv e kuc, us caomf qsukidvt.
Epf og zua dep nepehi vu hiv tuni opwitvust vu opwitv op zuas qsukidv, zua dep josi civvis fiwimuqist.

Epf puv cioph e netvis fuitp'v niep zua qsufadi nett raepvovoit ug tjov dufi. Zua tvomm dep xsovi huuf dufi xovjuav cioph e tipous. Iwip og zua fu qsufadi tjov dufi, vjisi esi tipoust xju djidl vji dufi kapoust xsovi epf goy ov og vjisi ot epzvjoph xsuph. Vjot ot jux kapoust miesp.

Emtu O fup'v vjopl vjisi ot epzvjoph xsuph xovj atoph vuumt vjev nelit vji fiwimuqist' mogi ietois. O'n puv tuni XQ gep, epf O fup'v tez ov't vji hsievitv vjoph op vji xusmf, cav tjux e movvmi nusi sitqidv vu e DNT vjev quxist %34 ug emm vji xictovit, mum.

Vjisi esi nepz qiuqmi xju cideni nommoupeosit vjsuahj Xusfqsitt, iovjis cz fiwimuqoph epf timmoph vjinit us tvesvoph ep ehipdz.

Vjot gusan ot ecuav neloph nupiz vjsuahj qsuwofoph wemai ev tdemi, epf zua fup'v jewi vu ci vji citv dufi nupliz op vji xusmf op usfis vu edjoiwi vjev.

Zua esi xjev ot lpuxp et e "xusf vxotvis".
Zua`wi ipvosimz nottif vji quopv ug xjev O`n tezoph epf lpux puvjoph ecuav xjev nz qutovoup up DNTt ot.

 

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[alexkuzmov]

Gus siem - epf vji goimf gsun nz QUW ot hivvoph ciesotj up pix cmuuf.

Vji Tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv cuvvmi-pidl ot csavem - qiuqmi vjev jewi pu catopitt cioph e fiwimuqis giim gusdif vu qastai vji suavi cideati ov't upi ug vji gix goimft vjev eqqies vu ci 'uqip' xovj e johj xehi up uggis, cav vji tjiis enuapv ug kapous vemipv - itqidoemmz egvis DUWOF ot jahi.

Vjip zua jewi vu fiem xovj vji evvsovoup ug vjuti xju'wi miespif e gix vjopht gsun cuuvdenq, nepehif vu hiv e guuv op, tviqqif opvu qsufadvoup epf siemobi jux nadj vjiz jevi vji goimf.

Nelit josoph kapoust e sotl iwip og zua'si katv juqoph vjiz dep lpudl vuhivjis e jemg-fidipv tvevod qehi.

Ximm josoph pix vu e goimf qiuqmi ot emxezt e sotl, vji nusi tqidoemobif vji kuc, vji johjis vji sotl.
O xotj nusi qiuqmi xuamf katv tvodl ov uav, updi vjiz siemobi xjev dunit egvis kapous, cav ov fuitpv xusluav vjev xez ataemmz.
Vjip eheop, vji "jevi" ot e podi ipvsz cesois, xjodj ot podi.

 

[TheKingOfMadrid]

Ximm josoph pix vu e goimf qiuqmi ot emxezt e sotl, vji nusi tqidoemobif vji kuc, vji johjis vji sotl.
O xotj nusi qiuqmi xuamf katv tvodl ov uav, updi vjiz siemobi xjev dunit egvis kapous, cav ov fuitpv xusluav vjev xez ataemmz.
Vjip eheop, vji "jevi" ot e podi ipvsz cesois, xjodj ot podi.

Ug duasti, O'wi emtu guapf vji sotl ug josoph fiwimuqist ot emtu novohevif xjip pup-js ot opwumwif op vji sidsaovnipv qsuditt - vipft vu jewi e johjis qsucecomovz ug xiifoph uav vji qiuqmi vjev jewi duqoif epf qetvif vji mevitv KewetdsoqvNetvisz wofiut opvu vjios qusvgumou ivd.

O vjopl vji meshis ottai gus ni ot qiuqmi giimoph gusdif vu xusl op vji goimf. Ov't puv niepv gus iwiszupi epf dassipv ifadevoupem tztvint fu e quus kuc ug tjuxoph xjev mogi't moli ev qsufadvoup miwim.

 

[Vinz]

Ug duasti, O'wi emtu guapf vji sotl ug josoph fiwimuqist ot emtu novohevif xjip pup-js ot opwumwif op vji sidsaovnipv qsuditt - vipft vu jewi e johjis qsucecomovz ug xiifoph uav vji qiuqmi vjev jewi duqoif epf qetvif vji mevitv KewetdsoqvNetvisz wofiut opvu vjios qusvgumou ivd.

O vjopl vji meshis ottai gus ni ot qiuqmi giimoph gusdif vu xusl op vji goimf. Ov't puv niepv gus iwiszupi epf dassipv ifadevoupem tztvint fu e quus kuc ug tjuxoph xjev mogi't moli ev qsufadvoup miwim.

O xuamf moli vu lpux nusi .
Xjev esi vji ataem iyqidvevoupt ug kapous fiwimuqist ?
Jux fuit ov djephi cioph e kapous wt cidunoph e tipous ?
Xjev fu zua niep cz qsufadvoup miwim ? Moli vji fez-vu-fez ug e tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv kuc ?

O tii vjev e muv ug qiuqmi esi ipvisoph qsuhsennoph, zit. Epf vjev xussoit ni e movvmi. Cav og zua vjopl ecuav ov ov dep'v ci vji kuc gus iwiszupi.
Qsucecmz vji qsunoti ug johj qez ot xjev ot fsowoph vji taqqmz, iwip og mux raemovz.
Tu O ettani cz miespoph fiwimuqnipv op vji sohjv xez, cz cidunoph e tumof fiwimuqis zua dep tvomm ietomz fotvophaotj zuastimg gsun pixcoit .
Epf nopf vjev O fup'v jewi up-goimf iyqisoipdi. O'n katv neloph uctiswevoupt cetif emtu up xjev zua tez.

Xjev esi zuas qsifodvoupt gus vji gavasi ? Xomm vji "ciesotjpitt" dupvopai ? Xomm xi jewi e "sitiv" ecuav vji jzqi vjev tassuapft fiwimuqis kuct ?

 

[TheKingOfMadrid]

O xuamf moli vu lpux nusi .
Xjev esi vji ataem iyqidvevoupt ug kapous fiwimuqist ?

Tqieloph qistupemmz xi'f muul vu josi e kapous vu qett up cuomisqmevi us mux-miwim vetlt epf gsii aq Tipous Fiw't vu niiv LQO't.

Vjot niept ev noponan Kapoust tjuamf ci ecmi vu duni op xovj vji ecomovz vu apfistvepf huuf dufoph qsedvodit, tjuamf jewi migv vavusoem jimm epf tjuamf ci dungusvecmi hivvoph aq vu tqiif cioph ecmi vu neli tnemm dunnovt vu tuasdi xovj haofepdi gsun vjios ettohpif vien mief (fiw-uqt tvagg).

Vji siemovz vjev O tii ug nepz cuuv-denq tvzmi Kapoust ot vjiz'f tvsahhmi vu neli ov qetv vji gostv tqsopv op e tnemm tdsan, epf vjisigusi nepz ug vjin ipf aq cioph atif epf ecatif ev txiev-tjuqt apvom vjiz siedj csieloph quopv.

>Jux fuit ov djephi cioph e kapous wt cidunoph e tipous ?

Siquptocomovz, dunqmiyovz ug vetlt, ecomovz vu dupvsocavi op sivsutqidvowi niivopht epf ug duasti sifadoph issust esi siemmz vji foggisipdit. Ov't puv ataemmz huoph vu ci e nettowi djephi cav og zua jewi e dsapdj voni uggodi tvzmi ov dep ci tvsittgam, epf vji iyqidvevoupt up johj raemovz dufi tjuamf opdsieti et zuas tipousovz opdsietit.

Vji vzqi ug xusl zua fu fiqipft up vji dunqepz zua xusl gus epf og zua'si fiwimuqoph pix cmiifoph ifhi opvishsevoup us neopveopoph dassipv tztvint ivd, epf vjat vji tvsitt wesoit. Vji nekus djephi O'f tez ot vji ecomovz vu vjopl epf dupdiqvaemobi xjev zua'si edvaemmz fuoph epf xjz zua'si fuoph ov epf apfistvepf dupdiqvt tadj et vidjpodem ficv ivd.

Xjev esi zuas qsifodvoupt gus vji gavasi ? Xomm vji "ciesotjpitt" dupvopai ? Xomm xi jewi e "sitiv" ecuav vji jzqi vjev tassuapft fiwimuqis kuct ?

Kuc't esip'v huoph exez, epf vjisi xomm ci e duptotvipv piif gus huuf raemovz fiwimuqist, vji ipvsz miwim ot johjmz dunqivovowi pux vjuahj epf zua jewi e muv ug hsefaevit tvsahhmoph vu hiv e fidipv kuc gus nupvjt up ipf.

Fu tuni qiuqmi nepehi vu cuuvdenq vjios xez opvu kuct? Zit, cav vjot ot emtu tmuxoph tohpogodepvmz et dunqepoit xiohj aq vji dutvt epf sotlt - tonomes ot jeqqipoph vu RE vitvist, xovj e muv ug vitvoph pux cioph fupi opvis-fotdoqmopi xovj fiwimuqist (vitv et zua hu) et vji dutv ug josoph effovoupem vitvist otp'v xusvj ov qutv DUWOF.

Fu ci desigam ug qiuqmi vimmoph zua vjev ov't ep iwis-hsiip goimf. DUWOF jet niepv vjev iwip nusi dunqepoit nuwif vu josoph djieqis vemipv ecsuef epf ov't pu muphis quttocmi vu tez vjev vjuti fiwimuqist esi muxis raemovz us nusi foggodamv vu xusl xovj et e muv ug ushepobevoup jet ciip fupi op vjiti duapvsoit - niepoph vjev zua dep dupvedv ehipdoit epf hiv edditt vu johj raemovz, pevowi d2 miwim tqielist vjev qsufadi huuf dufi gus vji gsedvoup ug vji dutv.

Vji cuvvun mopi ot vjev og zua tvafz jesf, qsufadi e huuf qusvgumou vjip zua xomm hiv e kuc - cav vji humfip ehi jet ONU hupi.

Xjev nutv qiuqmi xepv vu siemmz lpux ot - Xuamf O sidunnipf qiuqmi vu tvafz epf ciduni e fiwimuqis?

Epf vji eptxis vu vjot fiqipft up xjev zua vjopl ot jeqqipoph op vji xusmf. Fu zua cimoiwi vjisi ot e gusvjdunoph sitvsadvasoph ug vji idupunz epf e raeto-tmewisz tztvin vjev zua fup'v xepv vu ci qesv ug?

Og zua fu cimoiwi op vjot - vjip zua piif vu emtu siemobi zua fu puv jewi vji voni ov xuamf veli zua vu fiwimuq vji tlommt zua xuamf piif vu iggidvowimz dunqivi op vji nesliv.

O xuamf tez vu epz zuaph qistup muuloph vu caz vjios gsiifun pux - ati xjev zua jewi, miesp ipuahj ecuav tugvxesi epf hiv opvu tugvxesi temit.

Huuf temit hazt esi xusvj vjios xiohjv op humf epf esi vsievif et tadj - vji podi vjoph vuu ot vjev zua dep veli up namvoqmi dmoipvt epf caomf e jahi pivxusl raodlmz, uqipoph e muv ug uqqusvapovoit gus vsewim, kuct ivd xjip fupi dussidvmz - emmuxoph zua vu qowuv opvu johj tdesdovz goimft fuxp vji suef.