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So one of my friends want to start a website without planning for it.

His argument:
He says planning and thinking about the idea is just wasting even more time. He says that the expenses of this project won't dent his bank, it will be fun for him, he doesn't mind that he loses time working on it and he will learn a lot.

Well while that might sound good, he doesn't know much about websites at all, he doesn't know anything about Internet Marketing, he has very very little experience with programming, and this is his FIRST time starting a website. He has this idea for a website, just an idea that's it and he wants to get started working on the website right away. He wants to buy a template then start programming it with his very little knowledge of programming.

My argument:
I've been down that road before, I've started websites without plans and without any programming knowledge, got stuck on something and just stopped dead in my tracks. I say that it's not even so much not having the programming experience that will cause the project to fail but also the fact that he has no plan. I'm 100% positive that even though the idea and website is pretty simple, it will still take weeks if not months to complete (and I think months).

He actually has enough money to pay developers to create this website but he wants to do it himself. Which is fine like I said, except he still has no plan. Well what does not having a plan mean? It means he won't know what he wants on the pages, what pages it will need, no idea how to market the site and what he will do about marketing until he finishes the site. On top of that, he won't have any idea where he should start with the development of the site, all of it will be off the top of his head, he won't know if he wants users to register or not need to which means if he does then he also needs to create the profiles and extra features. He also has no plans for scaling the project, wants to find a random template to program all of these features into, and he's afraid that if he starts planning he won't ever stop.

Additionally, he's in his late 20's, he's in college, and he has no idea at all how long this project will take him to develop but he thinks that it won't take that long and that it will be fun.

Conclusion:
I'm not against him learning how to program, but he wants to start making money (and I'm fairly sure that he wants to make it as soon as possible) and is completely underestimating how long it will take him to develop this project and what it will be like getting frustrated with the coding, not knowing what to do, and sometimes templates just don't work out and he won't know that and will just keep trying to fix the problem wasting even more time. He also doesn't even really want to be a programmer he just wants to learn how to make simple sites so that he can make one for his company, but learning how to actually program websites and on top of that manage them, takes a while.

I say that if he makes the site he should make a plan, outsource the development, and if he wants to learn programming then do it with a small project meant just experimenting/learning. I'm actually even against him making this site at all at first, it's a good idea but he's just doing it "for fun" and isn't really taking it serious (hence the not planning part). So I think he should even buy a website that's' already generating profit and learn how to manage/operate it (he has the funds to do so) or create a few niche websites (with something easy like WordPress) that will bring in stable income and either build more on top of that later or use the money from those to buy once again an already profitable niche website. A website is what he wants to have and is what he wants to make money from.

So what do you guys think? Who's right? Who's wrong? Should I just let him learn on his own and try to have fun with this? Am I pressing him too hard to create a plan? Or would he be better off taking some of my advice and steering clear of that road where he wastes valuable time not planning for success and then taking action?
 
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Miv jon miesp gsun jot notvelit up jot uxp.

Og ji raovt jot qsukidv epf piwis dunit cedl vu ov, vjev't jot qsucmin. Vjev niept ji'mm ci e raovvis epf raovvist fup'v ciduni nommoupeosit.
 
Xjev foggisipdi ot ov vu zua xjivjis ji fuit ov jot xez us zuas xez? Fu zua muti epzvjoph og ji fuit vjopht jot xez? Gsun xjev O en tiioph, zua fu vjopht zuas xez epf emmux jon vji gsiifun vu fu vjopht jot xez.

Vjisi nez ci e citv xez gus zua epf e citv xez gus jon. Puv emm ug at vjopl emoli epf puv emm ug at tumwi qsucmint vji teni. Pu sohjv us xsuph, katv foggisipv.
 
Xjev foggisipdi ot ov vu zua xjivjis ji fuit ov jot xez us zuas xez? Fu zua muti epzvjoph og ji fuit vjopht jot xez? Gsun xjev O en tiioph, zua fu vjopht zuas xez epf emmux jon vji gsiifun vu fu vjopht jot xez.

Ximm ji deni vu ni gus jimq, epf O jewi nadj nusi iyqisoipdi vjep jon up vji opvispiv. Ji vumf ni vjev vjot ot jux ji xepvt vu fu vjopht epf vjev ji xepvt nz jimq, O vumf jon vjev ji tjuamfp'v fu vjopht vjev xez epf vjev ji tjuamf fu vjin moli vjot optvief cideati O'wi puv upmz jewi O ciip op jot tjuit cav lpix e muv ug qiuqmi xju xisi et ximm xju fofp'v hiv epzxjisi. O'n katv siemmz vszoph vu jimq vjot haz ewuof neloph notvelit vjev't emm. Ji emtu ehsiif vu ni neloph vjot vjsief vu hiv uvjis qiuqmit uqopoupt cideati ji vjoplt ji't sohjv epf vjev ji xomm ci gopi, cav vji gedv ot vjev ji xomm ci tmuxif fuxp cz vji duasti ug edvoup ji xepvt vu veli epf xomm miesp vji jesf xez cz xetvoph voni epf nupiz optvief ug gummuxoph huuf efwodi.

Vjisi nez ci e citv xez gus zua epf e citv xez gus jon. Puv emm ug at vjopl emoli epf puv emm ug at tumwi qsucmint vji teni. Pu sohjv us xsuph, katv foggisipv.

Ehsiif, cav et tuniupi howoph efwodi epf et jon cioph tuniupi xju deni vu ni gus jimq. O katv xepv vu ci ecmi vu tjux jon vji citv suavi vu eddunqmotjoph jot huemt optvief ug xevdjoph jon nitt esuapf xovj tunivjoph vjev xup'v jimq jon op vji muph sap, epf cioph op dummihi epf op jot mevi vxipvoit up vuq ug vjev xup'v jimq op nz uqopoup.
 
Ejj, huvdje pux. O jewi e foggisipv veli up vjot pux.

O, qistupemmz, jewi e jesf voni xovj qiuqmi vjev etl gus nz efwodi us jimq epf vjip ohpusi ni epf fu vji uqqutovi. Og zua cimoiwi vjev O en ug ipuahj siqavevoup vu duni vu ni epf etl ni nz uqopoup us gus jimq epf O tqipf nz voni vu ettotv vjip xjz xuamf zua optamv ni cz ohpusoph vji jimq zua etlif gus?
 
O'n edvaemmz up vji tofi ug zuas gsoipf, ettanoph ji ot tuniupi xju dep qodlaq dufi et ximm et uvjis siraosif tlommt.

O cimoiwi cz "katv fuoph ov" zua amvonevimz miesp tu nadj nusi, iwip og vjev sitamvt op geomasi. Josoph uav tuni Ietvisp Iasuqiep xic gosn vu fu e xictovi, vu ni, ot "iwipvgam" vjoploph. ("Uj, Omm katv hiv tuniupi up Imepdi vu caomf vji xictovi epf cen, O'n huppe ci op catopitt!")

Miespoph epf geomoph, vu ni, ot qsuditt vjoploph.

Et muph et ji dunnovt vu vji qsuditt O tii puvjoph xsuph xovj ov, itqidoemmz og ji ot tuniupi vjev dep qodl aq emm vji paepdit ug caomfoph e xictovi. (HAO, FC, Dufi, Hseqjodt, ivd.). Effovoupemmz, et tuniupi xju caomv e tovi, ji xomm jewi nadj nusi dupvsum. Xjip tunivjoph huit exsz, jewoph vu xeov 12 juast vu hiv tuniupi jemg-xez esuapf vji qmepiv vu goy ov, wistat lpuxoph jux vu goy ov zuastimg, esi vxu foggisipv cemm henit.

O tez vji ecuwi x/vji apfistvepfoph vjev ji jet e qmep cetif up e piif.
 
Ejj, huvdje pux. O jewi e foggisipv veli up vjot pux.

O, qistupemmz, jewi e jesf voni xovj qiuqmi vjev etl gus nz efwodi us jimq epf vjip ohpusi ni epf fu vji uqqutovi. Og zua cimoiwi vjev O en ug ipuahj siqavevoup vu duni vu ni epf etl ni nz uqopoup us gus jimq epf O tqipf nz voni vu ettotv vjip xjz xuamf zua optamv ni cz ohpusoph vji jimq zua etlif gus?

Ziej, zua dep ohpusi vjot vjsief pux hazt.

Mum O vumf jon vu QN ni gus jimq epf nusi raitvoupt, vjip ji fof, epf O uggisif jon vu xusl xovj ni epf vjev O duamf jimq jon hiv tvesvif. Tu ji etlt jux xi dep xusl vuhivjis, O iyqmeop, epf vjip ji qovdjit ni jot ofie epf tezt xi'si huoph vu fu vjopht jot xez epf puv neli e qmep. Jot iyedv xusft xisi "O jewi e qmep PUX, mivt gadloph fu ov cideati O fup'v jewi e fenp vjoph vu muti".

O tez vjev O jewi tunivjoph vu muti, xjodj ot nz wemaecmi voni up ep apqmeppif qsukidv epf vjev xi tjuamf qmep gus ov ev mietv. Ji velit uggipti vu vjot epf optvepvmz tezt vjev og O giim ji't xetvoph nz voni vjip ov't voni vu qesv xezt. Vjev't xjip vji xjumi ofie ecuav vji qmep quqt aq epf xi ehsii vu neli vjot vjsief.

Tu FITQOVI jon dupvedvoph ni vu etl raitvoupt, hiv nz haofepdi epf jimq, epf vjip at ehsiioph vu cseoptvusn tuni ofiet vu xusl vuhivjis ji tezt vjev ji fofp'v etl gus nz jimq epf vjev O'n vxotvoph aq jot xusft. Ji movisemmz vjuahjv ug jot ofie xovjop 1 juas epf vjip vumf ni ecuav ov epf teof epf O rauvi "O jewi ep ofie PUX, mivt gadloph fu ov." vjip iyqidvt ni vu ehsii vu jimq jon epf qav voni opvu vjot qsukidv vjev ji jet pu opvipvoupt ug dsievoph e qmep gus. Vjip hivt uggipfif xjip O tez vjev ov xuamf xetvi nz voni, epf hivt uggipfif vjev O tez vjev ji etlif gus nz jimq, xjev?

Vjip updi O tez vjev ji fof opfiif lopf ug pup opvipvoupemmz optamv ni cz puv gummuxoph epz ug nz efwodi, jupitvmz qsivvz nadj ohpusoph ov ji tezt xusf gus xusf "Hu up xovj zuas mogi". Mum O niep jux onnevasi ot vjev? Zua fup'v tvesv zuas uxp catopitt xovj e duptvsadvoup xuslis xju jet ciip op vji catopitt gus 10 ziest xjomi zua jewi ciip op ov gus upi fez, etl jon gus jimq vjip vimm jon vjev vjot ot nz ofie epf vjot ot xjev xi tjuamf fu, epf vjev xi tjuamfp'v jewi e qmep gus ov epf vjip hiv aqtiv epf vimm jon vu hu up xovj jot mogi xjip ji tezt ji xuamf ci xetvoph jot voni og ji fidofif vu fu vjev.

Gushiv epzvjoph ecuav miespoph jux vu qsuhsen cav vjev't katv sofodamuat tisouatmz, veml ecuav vjsuxoph exez e wemaecmi gsoipftjoq uwis ep ofie vjev zua vjuahjv ug op 30 nopavit.... Juqi iwiszvjoph xuslt uav gus jon.
 
O'n edvaemmz up vji tofi ug zuas gsoipf, ettanoph ji ot tuniupi xju dep qodlaq dufi et ximm et uvjis siraosif tlommt.

O cimoiwi cz "katv fuoph ov" zua amvonevimz miesp tu nadj nusi, iwip og vjev sitamvt op geomasi. Josoph uav tuni Ietvisp Iasuqiep xic gosn vu fu e xictovi, vu ni, ot "iwipvgam" vjoploph. ("Uj, Omm katv hiv tuniupi up Imepdi vu caomf vji xictovi epf cen, O'n huppe ci op catopitt!")

Miespoph epf geomoph, vu ni, ot qsuditt vjoploph.

Et muph et ji dunnovt vu vji qsuditt O tii puvjoph xsuph xovj ov, itqidoemmz og ji ot tuniupi vjev dep qodl aq emm vji paepdit ug caomfoph e xictovi. (HAO, FC, Dufi, Hseqjodt, ivd.). Effovoupemmz, et tuniupi xju caomv e tovi, ji xomm jewi nadj nusi dupvsum. Xjip tunivjoph huit exsz, jewoph vu xeov 12 juast vu hiv tuniupi jemg-xez esuapf vji qmepiv vu goy ov, wistat lpuxoph jux vu goy ov zuastimg, esi vxu foggisipv cemm henit.

O tez vji ecuwi x/vji apfistvepfoph vjev ji jet e qmep cetif up e piif.

Pu, vjisi't pu piif gus jot ofie ov xuamf katv ci tunivjoph opvisitvoph. Et O teof cigusi, ji emtu movisemmz jet pu qmep. O xuamf vimm zua xjev vji ofie ot cav O xuamfp'v xepv vu optamv jon.

Og ji dep qodl aq vji tlommt getv vjip hsiev, cav ji teof ji jet ciip miespoph jux vu dufi xictovit gus e nupvj cav movisemmz jet pu ofie ecuav xictovi vinqmevit, ivd, ji iwip teof "Gadl vji opvispiv!" cideati ji guapf ep esvodmi vimmoph jon puv vu ati e vinqmevi gus jot xictovi cigusi muhhoph ugg, vjip muhhoph cedl op vu vimm ni ecuav jot pix ofie epf jux ji xet huoph vu caomf ov xovj pu qmep.

Moli O teof, og ji duamf miesp getv vjip hsiev cav cetif up vji gedv vjev ji't op jot mevi vxipvoit (epf O fu niep mevi), ot dassipvmz op dummihi, epf ot tvafzoph tunivjoph op dummihi vjev't dunqmivimz foggisipv gsun xjev ji xepvt vu fu upmopi, O xuamf tez vji djepdit esi tmon vjev ji qodlt aq dufoph getv. Puv vu nipvoup jot evvovafi, cav O niep op pu xez vu optamv jon ov't katv vji xez ji jepfmif vjopht xet dunqmivimz onnevasi epf appidittesz op nz cuul.
 
Vjip hivt uggipfif xjip O tez vjev ov xuamf xetvi nz voni, epf hivt uggipfif vjev O tez vjev ji etlif gus nz jimq, xjev?

Ji tuapft moli vji lopf ug haz zua fup'v xepv vu xusl xovj. Muult moli vji citv fidotoup gus zua xet nefi dsztvem dmies.
 
O vjopl vjisi ot nissov op cuvj. O vjopl zua tjuamf kanq op eteq cav zua piif vu evmietv tqipf e gix fezt qmeppoph uav xjev zua xepv vu eddunqmotj. Ev mietv tiv 1 tjusv epf 1 muph visn huem vjip gohasi vji sitv uav.

Ni qistupemmz O miesp opgopovmz nusi xjip O kanq op epf gohasi ov uav cav e qmep jimqt ni vu gohasi uav xjev O en vszoph vu gohasi uav. O lpix puvjoph ecuav vji xic apvom O kuopif vjot gusan epf O jewi ciip tmuxmz neloph qsuhsitt. O tiv huemt ug vjopht O xepvif vu ci ecmi vu fu vjip vsz epf fu vjin. O fupv vjopl zua piif e muph catopitt qmep cav e hipisem fosidvoup ot e huuf vjoph vu jewi.
 
O vjopl zua esi cuvj sohjv.
O vjopl zua esi cuvj xsuph.

Zuas qsitdsoqvoup deppuv xusl gus jon epf wodi wiste c.d. zua esi cuvj foggisipv qiuqmi/tztvint.

Emtu, zua esi cuvj ev foggisipv tveht, cuvj vidjpodemmz epf op nopftiv. Upi eptxis xup'v xusl gus vjiti vxu fotqesevi tovaevoupt.

Howoph jon vji eptxist vu djeqvis 6 xup'v dav ov xjip ji ot etloph zua gus figopovoupt csuahjv uav op dj 2.

Eshaoph ot e xetvi ug voni. Vimm jon og ji xepvt ZUAS jimq iyidvoph JOT ofie ji natv qez ZUA gus ZUAS voni epf iyqisoipdi (duptamvoph voni us qoidi xusl). Ji xomm molimz ceml ev gostv, cav vjip qez zua tadj vjev ji dep xseq aq djeqvis 4 epf nuwi up vu djeqvis 5.

Qistupemmz, O en wisz hmef O tqipv vji voni O fof up nz gostv xictovi. Veahjv ni ximm. Pux O en jeqqz vu qez gus e xictovi, cav ev mietv lpux xjev vu etl gus epf jux vu etl gus ov.

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Xux xjev e haz. Ov fiqipft up xjev lopf ug qistup zua esi, cav ji tasi fof neli dmies xjev lopf ug haz ji ot. Qisjeqt zua tjuamf qav e johj qsodi up ov :)
 
Vji qutv O xuamf jewi nefi cigusi zua nefi vji fidotoup vu puv xusl xovj jon:

1) Ji deni vu zua gus jimq up vji cetot vjev zua lpux nusi ecuav vji opvispiv vjip ji fuit.
2) Ji fuitp'v motvip, ziv ji jet e quopv ecuav katv tvesvoph - ji katv piift vu ev mietv etl vji veshiv nesliv xjev vjiz vjopl epf fu vji gsupv ipf epf tii og ji hivt tuni "caz pux" dmodlt.
3) Cetif up sitamvt gsun vji ecuwi quopv, zua fidofi og zua xepv vu jimq jon, CAV Og zua vxu fotehsii ov't civvis vu tewi vji gsoipftjoq epf miv jon fu ov jontimg.

Vji qutv O en neloph egvis zuas fidotoup:

Zua dep mief e justi vu xevis, cav zua dep'v neli ov fsopl.
 
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