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Hello Fastlane Family, how has everyone been?

As you know I value all of your opinions, that is why I come here; to share my experiences to help you learn, and ask for help when I venture into a new arena.

Well, this time I am asking for help. I will be talking with 3 of my close apartment investing friends, but I would still like to hear what everyone here thinks.

I have located a duplex property in which I can assume the loan, details below:

The apartment is located in Cedar Rapids Iowa, about 20 minutes from my school. The property is a 1400sq foot Duplex built in 1916 and the deal is a loan assumption. Both units are, 1-Bedroom 1-Bath. The current owner is a guy in his mid 20s, he owes $75k and has already made 39 payments. The apt. supposedly would appraise for 85k (I take this with a grain of salt). Monthly payments (debt-servicing/insurance/etc..) total $645. Rents total $875.

He wants $2000 down and I take over the loan. Roof is under 10 years old. New water heater in 2001. Hardwood floors. 1 mile from 2500 students (Coe College) and roughly the same distance to two other larger colleges, including over 30,000 students at Kirkwood College. Not to mention Cedar Rapids itself is one of the largest cities in Iowa.

Tenant turnover is supposedly 13-15 months. Both units are currently occupied and have been for 6 months, leases are month-to-month. The owner says the only thing that needs replacing soon are the gutters. I will be seeing the property for the first time on Saturday.

Owner says he is selling this property to get some debt off his books. He wants to venture more into flipping properties than rental properties because he is a handy-man.

Value play deals are my focus for my investments, but I am not sure this is a total value play deal. I could add some coin operated washer and dryers for free off craigslist in the basement (if they are not already there), and maybe raise rents after some cost effective updating when new tenants move in.

That being said, it is the only deal I can get as a full time student without a full time job and tight credit markets.

I will be mindful in my due diligence and I am bringing with an HVAC friend to check the house out, as well as a friend who owns 30 units in Cedar Rapids and is good with rehabs. Luckily I am not alone, so I feel protected looking into this building. I realize that I need to be careful to make sure that the mortgage is not an adjustable rate mortgage, as the place was purchased in 2007 according to the seller. BofA is the lender.

The game plan is to assume this loan, hold the property for the next year or two while making cost effective updates (simple exterior paint, cleaning, simple curb appeal, etc) and gaining equity. I will sell the property around graduation time from college (May 2012) and move into purchasing a 15+ unit building with proceeds from this deal, my mobile home deal, and my new job salary. I think I can learn a lot about management on this starter property, even if it doesn't post 150% gains and isn't the most historic deal of my career haha.

What do all of you here at the Fastlane think? Normally, I would just go out and do the deal, but a multi-unit building is a little more daunting than a mobile home deal. I realize there are many more potential risks, and I am no seasoned veteran, just a mobile home dealing, apartment book reading college student.

Has anyone here ever dealt with a loan assumption? My friend who owns the 30 units in Cedar Rapids said I will need a good lawyer here, luckily he is a lawyer with experience in property law, so I am asking him to take on the legal work.

Thanks all, hopefully I can share my next investment story with you soon,

G. Alexander
 
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Ximm, O lpux pu upi jisi jef epzvjoph vu eff opvu qsuqisvz epemztot, cav O gohasif O'f howi zua ep aqfevi epzxezt.

O fidofif puv vu hiv vjot qsuqisvz egvis vemloph xovj vxu wisz opvimmohipv gsoipft ug nopi. Ov't ietz vu hiv iydovif, epf iwip nusi iydovif aqup sappoph pancist epf tiioph cmedl...cav zua natv tvez duptiswevowi op zuas epemztot us zua xomm hiv dsatjif, vjeplt Noli epf Noli (puv ITQP) gus sinopfoph ni ug vjot.

(DUPTISWEVOWI PANCIST)

Hsutt Sipv = $875
Wedepdz (10%) = -$88
Cef Ficv = 1 mevi qeznipv op vji metv 24 nupvjt, $50 djeshif.
Piv Sipv = $790

Iyqiptit:
Neopvipepdi (20%) = -$175 (umf caomfoph, caomv op 1916)
Nepehinipv (10%) = -$88 (vsewim vu ep gsun Difes seqoft, ivd)
Efwisvotoph = -$10
Avomovoit = -$60 (xevis epf hescehi)
Vuvem = -$333

QOVO = -$645

Detj Gmux = -$145

Ov xuamf eqqies vji qsuqisvz ot sappoph taqis vjop neshopt, epf duamf ci op e pihevowi detjgmux tovaevoup. Vjisi esi uvjis gedvust vjev nefi ni tjz exez gsun vji qsuqisvz et ximm, cav O en muuloph ev vxu foggisipv upit up nz denqat op Ouxe Dovz pux. O fup'v vjopl muep ettanqvoup ot emm ovt dsedlif aq vu ci iovjis, epf O en huoph cedl vu nz timmis gopepdi tiesdj.

Og O fup'v gopf tunivjoph cz Tiqvincis O xomm ci fuoph epuvjis nucomi juni fiem (us vxu nusi ev updi) epf xomm qutv cuvj vjuti fiemt aq.

Citv,

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O fupv jewi iyqisoipdi xovj qsuqisvz op vji AT tu O depv uggis zua epz efwodi, cav O moli siefoph vjsieft moli vjot, iwip og vjot fiem fofpv duni vjsuahj. Vjepy gus xsovoph :)
 
$333 qis nupvj op iyqiptit (iydmafoph QOVO) up e $85l faqmiy? Xux - vjev ot duptiswevowi. :)

Nezci tiv aq e tiqesevi MMD vu jepfmi nepehinipv?

Esi zua tasi ecuav vji 20% op neopvipepdi? Vjev't moli e pix JWED apov iwisz zies. Tiint exgammz johj.

Fup'v gushiv vu fotduapv vey xsovi-uggt. Nepz qiuqmi fotdesf vjot op vjios gopepdoemt, cav tuni siemmz huuf fiemt dep ci mutv vjot xez, ONJU.

Ov't huuf vu ci duptiswevowi, cav puv VUU duptiswevowi.
 
$333 qis nupvj op iyqiptit (iydmafoph QOVO) up e $85l faqmiy? Xux - vjev ot duptiswevowi. :)

Nezci tiv aq e tiqesevi MMD vu jepfmi nepehinipv?

Esi zua tasi ecuav vji 20% op neopvipepdi? Vjev't moli e pix JWED apov iwisz zies. Tiint exgammz johj.

Fup'v gushiv vu fotduapv vey xsovi-uggt. Nepz qiuqmi fotdesf vjot op vjios gopepdoemt, cav tuni siemmz huuf fiemt dep ci mutv vjot xez, ONJU.

Ov't huuf vu ci duptiswevowi, cav puv VUU duptiswevowi.

Vji neopvipepdi demdamevoup xuamf ci tqsief nupvjmz op wemaevoup, cav tez gus optvepdi...havvist, xjodj vji qmedi piift; vjiz xuamf ci esuapf $1000. Vjev't $100 e nupvj gus vji gostv vip nupvjt. Vjip e tvuwi huit...us tunivjoph imti.

Puv tezoph vjev vjopht xuamf liiq csieloph, cav iwip muxisoph vji qisdipvehit tactvepvoemmz, vji qsuqisvz ot tvomm sappoph vjop neshopt. O fup'v iyqidv emm qsuqisvoit vu jewi 30% tegivz pivt (dunqmivimz apsiemotvod jeje), cav O xuamf ev mietv moli e movvmi nusi csievjoph suun, epf e tovaevoup xjisi nz peni ot ev mietv up moip vji fez O qav nz detj fuxp!

H. Emiyepfis
 
Katv uav ug dasoutovz, xjev esi vji "ul", "huuf", epf "qepvt up gosi exituni" vjsitjumft gus neshopt? Xjip O xet vemloph vu e siemovus gsoipf ug nopi ecuav opwitvnipv qsuqisvoit epf detjgmux, ji tiinif vu opfodevi vjev neloph esuapf $200/nu/TGJ (O jewi pu ofie xjev qisdipvehi $200 siqsitipvif) xet ecuav vji citv ji jef tiip egvis emm gedvust xisi duptofisif (op visnt ug sipvoph uav e tnemm dupfu/TGJ, gedvusoph op wedepdz, neopvipepdi, ivd).
 
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