20 and Hopeful

[MJ DeMarco]

Excitement is diminishing.

That's why I asked you to return here and continually update.

Diminishing excitement (or passion) is normal. How you respond to it makes the difference between breaking through, or breaking down.

Everyone comes here excited. And then when real life knocks 'em down, they give up and return back to their job, back to their TMZ, and back to their excitable weekend.

 

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[DevinMK6]

Another introduction from another new member.


My name is Devin. I live in a small town in Oregon and I recently turned 20. I have high aspirations in life but not once have I done anything to achieve my goals. And that’s why I’m here.


I currently work in a warehouse for 10 hours a day, 4 days a week making $13 an hour. Albeit an improvement from my prior jobs, it’s not what I want to be doing for the rest of my life. Just like everyone else here, I want to be a millionaire. But I want to be a millionaire so that I have the freedom to do anything, and without worry. I want to be rich so that I can help my parents, my family, my friends, and the people around me. So that I can live my life without worrying about being able to pay my rent, car insurance, etc. To do the things I love with the people I love.

That’s who I want to be.

My one major flaw is that I have ZERO discipline. I’ll start with something, get really excited about it for a few weeks, and then just stop like it never even happened. But that goes with everything in my life from video games and TV shows, to going to the gym and hobbies. That’s the main thing that I need to work on.

I started reading TMF recently. I haven’t even gotten half way through the book and it’s already changing the way I think (Or maybe that’s just me getting excited about a new thing I found). I just hope that this will be the one thing that I can stick with and never lose interest in. This is where I’ll be making a change in my life for the better.

My problem is that I feel I need to surround myself with like-minded people who want to be successful in life (hence why I’m here). I see people who I went to high school with, post on social media a screenshot of their bank balance and it’s appalling. I have $450 in a tin can under my desk and that is $450 more than what they have in their banks. And they haven’t done anything to try and change that. In my town of 8,000, most of who are on food stamps or other government programs, it’s hard to find anyone who shares the same mindset. The one person that I’ve been able to find is my girlfriend. Both of her parents spent years in college to become doctors where they make $5k+ each for 2 weeks of work. That’s amazing. But they’re trading time for work, and I’d much rather have that in passive income.

But I don’t even know where to start besides here.


A little diddy about my life in an Oregon city. I intend on being an active member here and I really do want to make a change in my life. I've read through multiple threads on the forum and one post that really hit me was by Vigilante on a 1 year post.

Some people register here, post epic 1AM excitement induced rants, and never log in again as their Subway Sandwich Artist career flounders.

Yet another group registers, racks up a significant post count, zero speed/rep bank, and stays for years. If I owned the place, I would bounce them out much like you might a 29 year old child still living in your basement.

A third group comes in here talking the talk, but not walking the walk. They may get some rep, and even have some good posts, but later you learn they're actually pizza delivery drivers. Much like a kid that grew up in the church, they might know the right words to say, but don't really get the theology for themselves. They just regurgitate what they heard.

Then... there are people like YOU. YOU are who MJ wrote the book for. YOU are who MJ built the forum for. YOU are the reason people like me hang out here.

Courage. Transformation. Guts and determination. You'll get there. You are an #ActionTaker​

That speaks to me because I'm usually the one to get excited but never come back again. But I want to be the determined one that gets shit done for a change.

​

 

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[Sadik]

I have no experience in real estate and I don't live in the US, so I will leave it to the others to comment.

But you are lowballing like crazy if you think $1000 per month is too much. I made a software product in 3 months. Makes me about $600-$700 passively every month (link). I own a forum, makes about $600 passively every month! (link) I could spend 3 days on Upwork and make $1000. Not boasting, I didn't get to this easy, there's years of process behind this. But just telling you it can be done.

Don't get trapped into analysis paralysis. It took me 2 weeks to start a blog in January this year. (link) I spent $200 in total, got 600 subscribers. In the 4th week I realized this wouldn't work the way I thought it would. So either I pivot or cut the losses. I haven't decided yet. I am most likely going to give it up. Lesson being, don't be afraid to fail. @MJ DeMarco says in TMF , regret of failure is easier to live with than the regret of never having tried. Just do something, fail, learn, repeat.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

I challenge you to update this thread every day for the next 30 days.

Simply post "I'm here and I'm learning."

Nothing else needed.

Welcome to the forum.

PS: My next book will help you uncover WHY you quit, and how to OVERCOME it.

 

[jsk29]

I don't remember the source of this image but I wish I'd found it years ago:

The graph details the timeline and emotional phases of people making big transitions.

Eg. For the (a) above, it can be you discovering and reading TMFL

Remember that the initial feelings of excitement aren't meant to last forever.

Uncertainty and confusion are normal.

Don't quit, push through the struggle and emerge as a better man.

 

[ljb7]

I can relate to what you're feeling.

I dabbled in social media marketing when I was 16/17-- made some decent money, but eventually I let it slide (it wasn't something I wanted to be in).

I went to an average university studying an average degree and had an average mindset. I ended up leaving towards the end of the first year knowing that I wanted to do things differently.

I received TMF as a present for Christmas 14'. I finally picked it up during the beginning of February and finished it within a week. It changed my mindset and I finally got to some real work. Fast forward to now, I closed off 2016 with over 7 figures in sales.

There's a few things I've learnt: there may not always be people around you to motivate you (your network/area), but there are ALWAYS people around. My greatest business (and some personal) relations have been made over the very thing you're reading this on right now. Go out of your way to form groups of like minded people. Give as much as you get to these people, because if you don't, it'll never work.

Another thing. Motivation is F*cking awesome. But, it doesn't last, and you shouldn't rely on it. Everybody gets motivated. It's the people who build habits and persevere that succeed. I've been there countless times both for personal and business improvements. Just know that its not some people can do it and others can't, building habits and perseverance can be learnt and the way to do that is by forcing yourself to. If you want it enough you will do it. If you don't want it enough, you won't do it.

Lastly, entrepreneurship is learnt imo. When I look back to my former self roughly 2-years ago, I almost laugh. It's crazy how much I've developed, and anything I venture into now is lightyears easier for me than it would have been back then.

In the end it's about being original, working smart, and persevering. You will eventually get a taste of success, and that's when the fun really begins . If you can remember just one thing, make it that.

 

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[MidwestLandlord]

Talking to people at my work about why I want to become an entrepreneur and they just don't understand it. They tell me that they'd rather work a job for the rest of their life then retire.

To each their own I guess.

The Lone Entrepreneur (SinisterLex's Youtube)

Watch @SinisterLex 's video on the OP of this thread ^^^

It's good stuff.

Shows the right attitude concerning the "desert of desertion" that is a very real thing for us entrepreneurs.

Most people won't understand it. Most people just want comfort, ya know? As you said "to each their own"

At first it irritated the hell out of me that people didn't think the same way, or even pushed back and became discouraging. But I got over it haha. Some relationships ended, some got even better as a result. Part of the process for sure.

Don't let it get to you. Once you prove to yourself you can get results in the fastlane (the first $ you make without a "job"), you'll realize it's not that big of deal in the long run.

Welcome to the forum.

 

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[GMSI7D]

I'm here and I'm learning.

you should befriend other 20 years old guys here. instead of being isolated you guys should make a special topic to help each other as young fastlaners.

i am not kidding, i am brainstorming so you can learn the best way.

i remember when i was a student, we worked together in rooms

same thing here: share your thoughts with others 20 years old guys

 

[DevinMK6]

Long weekend but still here.

 

[DevinMK6]

That's why I asked you to return here and continually update.

Diminishing excitement (or passion) is normal. How you respond to it makes the difference between breaking through, or breaking down.

Everyone comes here excited. And then when real life knocks 'em down, they give up and return back to their job, back to their TMZ, and back to their excitable weekend.

I don't remember the source of this image but I wish I'd found it years ago:

The graph details the timeline and emotional phases of people making big transitions.

Eg. For the (a) above, it can be you discovering and reading TMFL

Remember that the initial feelings of excitement aren't meant to last forever.

Uncertainty and confusion are normal.

Don't quit, push through the struggle and emerge as a better man.

Thanks you guys. I'm not going to stop pursuing this and I plan to make it a lifelong passion. With everyone here on the forum and @fubar as my accountability partner, I believe I can be successful.

Even if things don't go my way I can't let it bring me down.

 

[Roli]

I want to be a millionaire. But I want to be a millionaire so that I have the freedom to do anything

Steps to motivation and action.

Step 1 - The Millionaire Mindset

Stop saying you want to be a millionaire, and start saying you want to become a millionaire. Everyone wants to be a millionaire; very few people want to become one. Because regardless of what impression Facebook and Buzzfeed give us; becoming a millionaire takes work.

So instead of fantasising what it would be like to hop on your private jet to go and meet @MJ DeMarco for a power lunch before jumping into your Buggatti Veyron to meet your popstar girlfriend. Start fantasising what it would be like to get up at 5 a.m. before your job and implement some technique you learned the night before.

Fantasise what it would be like to live below your means, saving money, building it up bit by bit, until you can afford that website/course/marketing that will really boost you forward.

Say to yourself out loud 15 times in a row, "My name is _______ and I am in the process of becoming a millionaire".

Step 2 - Eliminating Distraction

My one major flaw is that I have ZERO discipline. I’ll start with something, get really excited about it for a few weeks, and then just stop like it never even happened. But that goes with everything in my life from video games and TV shows, to going to the gym and hobbies. That’s the main thing that I need to work on.

OK possibly condescending statement coming in 3...2...1...

You are 20 so I'm not surprised you are constantly distracted; from Facebook, Twitter and Buzzfeed, to meaningless "celebrities" flashing their boobs and shoving fireworks up their asses to get famous. OF COURSE YOU'RE DISTRACTED!!!

Stop paying attention to these idiots; take yourself off Facebook for a month; STOP WATCHING TV....

Start meditating; most people think meditation is just there to relax you.

Bullshit.

Meditation is a test of will, if you can pay attention to nothing but your breath, the feeling in your body and the sounds around you for 20 minutes (start with a couple of mins) you are training yourself to stay focused. You are quite literally, exercising your willpower.

The more you meditate and the less time you spend on sites clicking and scrolling, or watching mindless TV, the more you will feel like you can focus on tasks for longer and longer periods.

Step 3 - Keeping The Right Company

My problem is that I feel I need to surround myself with like-minded people who want to be successful in life (hence why I’m here).

This is the hardest one; especially if you live in a small town. However, as you rightly pointed out, this is why you're here. It's great that you feel your girlfriend's parents motivate you. Talk to them about your feelings, tell them that you are determined to gain more than most people will in your town, tell them about TMF and how you want to tread that path.

You have an accountability partner on here, and that's great; take MJ's advice, come back here for 30 days and always be thinking about finding value.

Step 4 - The Value Mindset

Next time you go out to eat; try and work out the profit margins of the restaurant you're in. Look at the food they serve and the prices they charge, the amount of customers they can fit in the place. How busy it is etc.

Then start doing that for everything you encounter, it doesn't matter how accurate your estimates are; the point of the exercise is to get you into the mindset of discovering need and providing value.

I have identified dozens of potentially profitable businesses; most of them are outside my sphere of influence and competence; however I'm tuned to looking for opportunity. I can smell need; and one day I will smell the right type of need, and provide a value solution. Right now, I am starting to sell product on Amazon and beyond, always hunting for that need I can fill.

Good luck, keep coming back, and keep your action levels high.

 

[Under-Dog]

Talking to people at my work about why I want to become an entrepreneur and they just don't understand it. They tell me that they'd rather work a job for the rest of their life then retire.

That's common with a lot of people, especially those comfortably working the 9-5. A lot of people look at us like we are crazy, lost our minds. Don't let that get to you.... Not everyone wants to be an entrepreneur and that's fine nothing wrong with that! They enjoy the comfort and security of their income. (Security) so many think until an unfortunate event happens. Any who, find like minded people and share with them not only will they provide honest feedback but support. Don't forget the large community of like minded individuals you have here. At first my own family thought I was crazy when I told them my plans

 

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[DevinMK6]

What is it, day 7 or something?

Got off work early, probably going to finish TMF tonight then start being productive.

 

[DevinMK6]

Finished the book. Now starts the work week.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

I have no experience in real estate and I don't live in the US, so I will leave it to the others to comment.

But you are lowballing like crazy if you think $1000 per month is too much. I made a software product in 3 months. Makes me about $600-$700 passively every month (link). I own a forum, makes about $600 passively every month! (link) I could spend 3 days on Upwork and make $1000. Not boasting, I didn't get to this easy, there's years of process behind this. But just telling you it can be done.

Don't get trapped into analysis paralysis. It took me 2 weeks to start a blog in January this year. (link) I spent $200 in total, got 600 subscribers. In the 4th week I realized this wouldn't work the way I thought it would. So either I pivot or cut the losses. I haven't decided yet. I am most likely going to give it up. Lesson being, don't be afraid to fail. @MJ DeMarco says in TMF, regret of failure is easier to live with than the regret of never having tried. Just do something, fail, learn, repeat.

Featured!

 

[458]

Another introduction from another new member.


My name is Devin. I live in a small town in Oregon and I recently turned 20. I have high aspirations in life but not once have I done anything to achieve my goals. And that’s why I’m here.


I currently work in a warehouse for 10 hours a day, 4 days a week making $13 an hour. Albeit an improvement from my prior jobs, it’s not what I want to be doing for the rest of my life. Just like everyone else here, I want to be a millionaire. But I want to be a millionaire so that I have the freedom to do anything, and without worry. I want to be rich so that I can help my parents, my family, my friends, and the people around me. So that I can live my life without worrying about being able to pay my rent, car insurance, etc. To do the things I love with the people I love.

That’s who I want to be.

My one major flaw is that I have ZERO discipline. I’ll start with something, get really excited about it for a few weeks, and then just stop like it never even happened. But that goes with everything in my life from video games and TV shows, to going to the gym and hobbies. That’s the main thing that I need to work on.

I started reading TMF recently. I haven’t even gotten half way through the book and it’s already changing the way I think (Or maybe that’s just me getting excited about a new thing I found). I just hope that this will be the one thing that I can stick with and never lose interest in. This is where I’ll be making a change in my life for the better.

My problem is that I feel I need to surround myself with like-minded people who want to be successful in life (hence why I’m here). I see people who I went to high school with, post on social media a screenshot of their bank balance and it’s appalling. I have $450 in a tin can under my desk and that is $450 more than what they have in their banks. And they haven’t done anything to try and change that. In my town of 8,000, most of who are on food stamps or other government programs, it’s hard to find anyone who shares the same mindset. The one person that I’ve been able to find is my girlfriend. Both of her parents spent years in college to become doctors where they make $5k+ each for 2 weeks of work. That’s amazing. But they’re trading time for work, and I’d much rather have that in passive income.

But I don’t even know where to start besides here.


A little diddy about my life in an Oregon city. I intend on being an active member here and I really do want to make a change in my life. I've read through multiple threads on the forum and one post that really hit me was by Vigilante on a 1 year post.

Some people register here, post epic 1AM excitement induced rants, and never log in again as their Subway Sandwich Artist career flounders.

Yet another group registers, racks up a significant post count, zero speed/rep bank, and stays for years. If I owned the place, I would bounce them out much like you might a 29 year old child still living in your basement.

A third group comes in here talking the talk, but not walking the walk. They may get some rep, and even have some good posts, but later you learn they're actually pizza delivery drivers. Much like a kid that grew up in the church, they might know the right words to say, but don't really get the theology for themselves. They just regurgitate what they heard.

Then... there are people like YOU. YOU are who MJ wrote the book for. YOU are who MJ built the forum for. YOU are the reason people like me hang out here.

Courage. Transformation. Guts and determination. You'll get there. You are an #ActionTaker​

That speaks to me because I'm usually the one to get excited but never come back again. But I want to be the determined one that gets shit done for a change.

​

This isn't for everyone, period. 80-90% of everyone on here won't even make it. Your post just seems like your asking to be pet and told everything will be ok, but it wont, unless you make it happen. We can't do anything for you in the real world without your own efforts.

Good luck

 

[DevinMK6]

I challenge you to update this thread every day for the next 30 days.

Simply post "I'm here and I'm learning."

Nothing else needed.

Welcome to the forum.

PS: My next book will help you uncover WHY you quit, and how to OVERCOME it.

Thank you MJ. And I accept your challenge.

I look forward to not only finishing TMF but reading everything else that you put out. I'd also love some recommendations for more books to read!

 

[ljb7]

Thank you LJB, I really appreciate you taking the time to write that out. It really helps.

I always look back and think to myself "Why didn't I do something back then? Why did I stay on the same path even though I hated it?" I never acted upon my instincts. I've always thought that I shouldn't go to college, plainly for the fact the I didn't want to be swamped in student loan debt just to go work in another dead end job (Don't get me wrong though, I want to go to college because I love learning). And yet, here I am trading 4-3. I have done nothing so far and it bugs me that it's taken this long to start doing instead of thinking.

But that's in the past, and I need to stop looking back there and focus on what's ahead of me.

I understand where you're coming from... it's human nature to get upset by looking back and thinking why didn't I do this or that sooner.

BUT, being real with you now, you're 20 years old. You're young as F*ck. If you were 50 I might be able to sympathise with you, but at 20 years old you're younger than most people on this forum.

You know the only way to stop this shitty feeling? (And yes, I've felt it too, it's human nature after all)

You just need to get out there and do it. There is literally no other remedy.

And trust me, you will still feel this way about things but with one difference. By actually getting out and doing it, you'll be left thinking, 'if only I had started this a year ago, I'd probably be making $XX,XXX by now. Ah well, I'm making $X,XXX right now and soon enough I'll get to $XXX,XXX.'

And actually that's a pretty good feeling.

 

[DevinMK6]

Organized and downsized clutter in my room and got rid of distractions (Video games & social media notifications).

Also downloaded the audiobook for TMF.

I'm here and I'm learning.

 

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[GMSI7D]

you the 20 years old guys have energy that we the 40 years old guys have lost

because you haven't yet been destroyed by adversity, despair and so on.

so you have no bad habits of thoughts, you have energy to spend whether the thing is possible or not

this is called youthful folly in the i ching ( chinese book)

so you must take advantage of it

 

[DevinMK6]

Recently I've been reading up more on a niche that I have been interested in for a while. I know a lot of people who can provide good insight on the subject as well.

I'm here and I'm learning. Now I need to get ready for my 10 hour shift. Just more a reason to start grinding.

 

[DevinMK6]

Funny. I was roll racing my buddy on the highway on our way to work while MJ was discussing WCCA and moronic risks on the audio book.

At the same time we passed 2 cars on the opposite side that had been involved in an accident.

Made me think that maybe I shouldn't be doing that.

 

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[fubar]

Hey Devin

This is my first post on here as I've been lurking for quite some time; like you mentioned, it's quite easy to sit by and not involve yourself in the community when you feel as though you have nothing to really bring to the table.

Anyway, I wanted to reach out to you because I'm in a part of my life that is seemingly similar to yours.
I'm 22 and young like yourself, I share your aspirations but I often suffer the same issues that are holding you and a lot of wantrepreneurs back. But I'm making changes in multiple areas of my life, some irrelevant, but also Fastlane endeavors and really a total shift in mindset as addressed in TMF. Just as you said, I also want to get shit done.

In regards to the group idea mentioned above, I'd gladly be your accountability partner if you wanted. We can bounce off of one another's ideas, goals, struggles, whether it be Fastlane related or just life in general. Perhaps provide insight and that extra bit of courage and push to turn that wanting into doing.

Like you I'm just beginning as well and only recently have I taken an embarrassingly small amount of action; but it's that first initial step that is the hardest yet most important. Get going and stop living in regret.

Hope to see you in my Inbox.

 

[c_morris]

Talking to people at my work about why I want to become an entrepreneur and they just don't understand it. They tell me that they'd rather work a job for the rest of their life then retire.

To each their own I guess.

It's actually a positive for you that they want to work their whole lives as long as you don't succumb to their way of life. Consumers are needed for our present and future businesses to survive.

Sent from my Galaxy S7 using Tapatalk

 

[Jake Studebaker]

Another introduction from another new member.


My name is Devin. I live in a small town in Oregon and I recently turned 20. I have high aspirations in life but not once have I done anything to achieve my goals. And that’s why I’m here.


I currently work in a warehouse for 10 hours a day, 4 days a week making $13 an hour. Albeit an improvement from my prior jobs, it’s not what I want to be doing for the rest of my life. Just like everyone else here, I want to be a millionaire. But I want to be a millionaire so that I have the freedom to do anything, and without worry. I want to be rich so that I can help my parents, my family, my friends, and the people around me. So that I can live my life without worrying about being able to pay my rent, car insurance, etc. To do the things I love with the people I love.

That’s who I want to be.

My one major flaw is that I have ZERO discipline. I’ll start with something, get really excited about it for a few weeks, and then just stop like it never even happened. But that goes with everything in my life from video games and TV shows, to going to the gym and hobbies. That’s the main thing that I need to work on.

I started reading TMF recently. I haven’t even gotten half way through the book and it’s already changing the way I think (Or maybe that’s just me getting excited about a new thing I found). I just hope that this will be the one thing that I can stick with and never lose interest in. This is where I’ll be making a change in my life for the better.

My problem is that I feel I need to surround myself with like-minded people who want to be successful in life (hence why I’m here). I see people who I went to high school with, post on social media a screenshot of their bank balance and it’s appalling. I have $450 in a tin can under my desk and that is $450 more than what they have in their banks. And they haven’t done anything to try and change that. In my town of 8,000, most of who are on food stamps or other government programs, it’s hard to find anyone who shares the same mindset. The one person that I’ve been able to find is my girlfriend. Both of her parents spent years in college to become doctors where they make $5k+ each for 2 weeks of work. That’s amazing. But they’re trading time for work, and I’d much rather have that in passive income.

But I don’t even know where to start besides here.


A little diddy about my life in an Oregon city. I intend on being an active member here and I really do want to make a change in my life. I've read through multiple threads on the forum and one post that really hit me was by Vigilante on a 1 year post.

Some people register here, post epic 1AM excitement induced rants, and never log in again as their Subway Sandwich Artist career flounders.

Yet another group registers, racks up a significant post count, zero speed/rep bank, and stays for years. If I owned the place, I would bounce them out much like you might a 29 year old child still living in your basement.

A third group comes in here talking the talk, but not walking the walk. They may get some rep, and even have some good posts, but later you learn they're actually pizza delivery drivers. Much like a kid that grew up in the church, they might know the right words to say, but don't really get the theology for themselves. They just regurgitate what they heard.

Then... there are people like YOU. YOU are who MJ wrote the book for. YOU are who MJ built the forum for. YOU are the reason people like me hang out here.

Courage. Transformation. Guts and determination. You'll get there. You are an #ActionTaker​

That speaks to me because I'm usually the one to get excited but never come back again. But I want to be the determined one that gets shit done for a change.

​

I'm totally with you big man, I'm 16 and launching a company in 99 days. Following up on what we say is the one area our generation needs to improve the most, and by using TMF we are on the right track

 

[Sadik]

Very busy weekend, not much time for myself. Now that I'm back at work I have a couple hours a day to learn.

@DevinMK6

You have got a lot of people motivating you here. So that's not in short supply. What you need is to get down from the clouds and get your hands dirty. You read the book, you have read many threads here. Tell us about your niche. What businesses are you looking at? What are your plans for the next 10 months of 2017?

I am not kidding here. If you asked me the same question, I can list you what I am trying to do this year and what tasks I have already done and what are in process and what are pending. Specifics, specifics, specifics!

 

[Sadik]

No action yet. Been struggling to find a way to start. I've been reading threads on ecommerce, import/export, buying/selling, etc.

I'm going to start selling all the electronics that are just wasting away on my desk. Maybe start flipping on craigslist until I can find someway to start.

Watch Gary V's 2017 challenge to learn about flipping stuff. (Google it)

 

[DevinMK6]

Reviving an old thread but I'm still here. Been busy recently.

Just moved out with the girlfriend. Really getting an idea on how to save and manage my money. Downsized a lot of my stuff. Going to start selling everything I don't use as much anymore (Subwoofers I never installed in my new car, video games I don't play anymore, etc.).

I've just been trying to improve my life overall. I stress about money and my future more than I should. I've started eating better, reading more, bettering my relationship, and just becoming happier. I feel that's more important right now.

Although I took a break, I haven't lost sight of what I want; to become a millionaire.

(I'm not looking for anyone to pity or chastise me. This is just an update to say that I'm still focused.)

 

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[DevinMK6]

you should befriend other 20 years old guys here. instead of being isolated you guys should make a special topic to help each other as young fastlaners.

i am not kidding, i am brainstorming so you can learn the best way.

i remember when i was a student, we worked together in rooms

same thing here: share your thoughts with others 20 years old guys

That's a good idea.

I've always been a lurker on forums. This time I plan to pay my dues and give back how much I take in.

The only problem for me with the group idea is that I have no knowledge on the subject yet so I wouldn't be able to share ideas any time soon.

 

[GMSI7D]

That's a good idea.

I've always been a lurker on forums. This time I plan to pay my dues and give back how much I take in.

The only problem for me with the group idea is that I have no knowledge on the subject yet so I wouldn't be able to share ideas any time soon.

don't worry, this is not the point. people don't expect you to be a guru at 20.

people expect you to brainstorm and be pro active.

 

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