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Fed Up With Your Country? Where Is Left to Go?

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My wife and children were turned away from a restaurant today in Canada because we could not show VAXClNE cards. So that is it. Canada has chosen to not accept my business. Any place that follows that policy will get 0 of my business. They can rot for all I care.

As a funny side note, the VAXClNE card literally says this on it: "All information contained in this report is privileged and confidential information intended for use by authorized individuals only". I guess that the minimum wage door keep at dining establishments are now considered authorized individuals, who are privy to your medical records.

Another funny thing, the local market accepts any and all walking around and shopping, including walking through the food eatery area. However, if you want to sit down and eat you need to have your records with you. Yup, stand and eat you are fine, sit at a table and eat and you need your records. And still they comply because big daddy government tells them to.

It's depressing man.
 

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Hate the UK's tyranny and passivity of many people here. Not vaxinated so even going on holiday is such a pain. It doesn't help that most countries are following the same playbook with regards to the so called pandemic.

Moving to different countries will be easier when I'm a multimillionaire I'm sure :)
 

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My wife and children were turned away from a restaurant today in Canada because we could not show VAXClNE cards. So that is it. Canada has chosen to not accept my business. Any place that follows that policy will get 0 of my business. They can rot for all I care.

As a funny side note, the VAXClNE card literally says this on it: "All information contained in this report is privileged and confidential information intended for use by authorized individuals only". I guess that the minimum wage door keep at dining establishments are now considered authorized individuals, who are privy to your medical records.

Another funny thing, the local market accepts any and all walking around and shopping, including walking through the food eatery area. However, if you want to sit down and eat you need to have your records with you. Yup, stand and eat you are fine, sit at a table and eat and you need your records. And still they comply because big daddy government tells them to.
Feels like a lot of these restaurants are going to go out of business in a few years. The average profit margin for a full service restaurant is 3 - 5%. Don't they question how they'll survive and thrive/grow excluding 15-25% of could-be customers (for not taking the covid jab) and the many more vaxinated-but-unwilling-to-show-papers customers?
 
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Feels like a lot of these restaurants are going to go out of business in a few years. The average profit margin for a full service restaurant is 3 - 5%. Don't they question how they'll survive and thrive/grow excluding 15-25% of could-be customers (for not taking the C0VlD jab) and the many more vaxinated-but-unwilling-to-show-papers customers?
Absolutely. People are going out of business all over the place. What was arguably Calgary's most famous bar, which had been open since 1972, closed its doors a little while ago due to government intervention during the coov situation. This cities most famous Italian eatery, which had also been open for a long time also closed. They just gave up and stated that their was 0 point in even trying to turn a profit with the new regulations, and that they would rather just retire than try to deal with it.

I am sure there are hundreds of examples more that are just like this.
 

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Absolutely. People are going out of business all over the place. What was arguably Calgary's most famous bar, which had been open since 1972, closed its doors a little while ago due to government intervention during the coov situation. This cities most famous Italian eatery, which had also been open for a long time also closed. They just gave up and stated that their was 0 point in even trying to turn a profit with the new regulations, and that they would rather just retire than try to deal with it.

I am sure there are hundreds of examples more that are just like this.
So who's behind the restaurants eagerly following the rules? I'm sure some reluctantly are trying to stay open, but there's places actually proudly advertising their "vax only" policy. Do they just not care about any negatives due to political allegiances?
 

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My wife and children were turned away from a restaurant today in Canada because we could not show VAXClNE cards. So that is it. Canada has chosen to not accept my business. Any place that follows that policy will get 0 of my business. They can rot for all I care.

As a funny side note, the VAXClNE card literally says this on it: "All information contained in this report is privileged and confidential information intended for use by authorized individuals only". I guess that the minimum wage door keep at dining establishments are now considered authorized individuals, who are privy to your medical records.

Another funny thing, the local market accepts any and all walking around and shopping, including walking through the food eatery area. However, if you want to sit down and eat you need to have your records with you. Yup, stand and eat you are fine, sit at a table and eat and you need your records. And still they comply because big daddy government tells them to.

This is utterly frightening. I can't believe this is actually happening in a society that calls themselves "free".
 

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So who's behind the restaurants eagerly following the rules? I'm sure some reluctantly are trying to stay open, but there's places actually proudly advertising their "vax only" policy. Do they just not care about any negatives due to political allegiances?
They all literally have signs on the door stating that this is the case. As soon as they are told they need to do something they just blindly follow it. And something like 70% of the population just goes along with it and does not even ask a single question
 

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The president of Brazil just gave a speech this week at the UN: He is against mandatory vaccines and against vaccine passports. He is also pro family, talks about the importance of freedom, and against globalist policies...


Just saying in case any of you is fond on that.

Edit: Oh and in favor of citizens being able to have guns
 
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The president of Brazil just gave a speech this week at the UN: He is against mandatory vaccines and against VAXClNE passports. He is also pro family, talks about the importance of freedom, and against globalist policies...


Just saying in case any of you is fond on that.

Edit: Oh and in favor of citizens being able to have guns

None of it changes the fact that most of Brazil is incredibly violent, corrupt, and poor. This won't be a popular opinion here but I'd rather live in a safe country with some rules I don't like than in a largely lawless place.

By the way, Bolsonaro is the same kind of a politician as everyone else: hypocrite to the core. Seemingly pro-freedom, yet anti same-sex marriage, anti abortion, anti drug liberalization, anti immigration, and a racist.
 

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None of it changes the fact that most of Brazil is incredibly violent, corrupt, and poor.

This is what I would like to test for myself. I've heard of high crime and know a relative that got robbed there as well. But perhaps this is a function of lacking vigilance and awareness within high tourist-density areas.

I would like to test these factors personally - or perhaps people have more illuminating insight from personal experiences to perhaps credible figures. What I do know is that there is most definitely an effort to promote fear within Westerners to the idea of Latin American countries.

What I also know is that the landscape is massive and encompasses some of the most fascinating and yet to be discovered Amazonian ecosystems. Lots of fertile land. It would certainly be the adventure of a lifetime to discover those areas and beyond.

Edit: Oh and in favor of citizens being able to have guns

This is interesting, I did not know this. Going to dig a little deeper to learn the historical context and indicators of possible outcomes as a function of more relaxed gun laws. If US is an indicator, allowing citizens to legally own and carry firearms has been a net positive tool to fight potentially hostile/oppressive governments.
 

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This is what I would like to test for myself. I've heard of high crime and know a relative that got robbed there as well. But perhaps this is a function of lacking vigilance and awareness within high tourist-density areas.

I would like to test these factors personally - or perhaps people have more illuminating insight from personal experiences to perhaps credible figures. What I do know is that there is most definitely an effort to promote fear within Westerners to the idea of Latin American countries.

What I also know is that the landscape is massive and encompasses some of the most fascinating and yet to be discovered Amazonian ecosystems. Lots of fertile land. It would certainly be the adventure of a lifetime to discover those areas and beyond.



This is interesting, I did not know this. Going to dig a little deeper to learn the historical context and indicators of possible outcomes as a function of more relaxed gun laws. If US is an indicator, allowing citizens to legally own and carry firearms has been a net positive tool to fight potentially hostile/oppressive governments.

Brazil really is a shithole relating to crime.

Have seen a LOT of liveleak videos, when that was still a thing.
 
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Brazil really is a shithole relating to crime.

Have seen a LOT of liveleak videos, when that was still a thing.

But I could also show you hundreds, thousands of videos relating to crime right in the USA. I'm just not convinced that a collection of videos or stories = reality of the experience. I think a robust set of credible numbers could provide deeper insight.

*EDIT: or better yet, go to Brazil for a few months and form your own opinion. I hope to do something like this myself.
 
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Do you think this also spreads to the Caribbean?
Don't know how I missed this.

Dominican Republic has been very laid back from reports I get.

Puerto Rico can F*ck right off. It's like living in a blue state. It'll all blow over but it's not very fun or exciting to live here (compared to 2019) in the meantime.

It seems the rest of the Carribbean are more skeptical culturally and don't vibe well with mandates or restrictions. Makes sense considering that, european colonists killed and enslaved them en masse not too long ago.

St Vincent & The Grenidades had a biiiig protest against mandatory vaccines for healthcare workers, and their president got hit in the head with a rock: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/06/st-vincent-grenadines-vaccine-protest-ralph-gonsalves
 

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This is what I would like to test for myself. I've heard of high crime and know a relative that got robbed there as well. But perhaps this is a function of lacking vigilance and awareness within high tourist-density areas.

I would like to test these factors personally - or perhaps people have more illuminating insight from personal experiences to perhaps credible figures. What I do know is that there is most definitely an effort to promote fear within Westerners to the idea of Latin American countries.

I think a robust set of credible numbers could provide deeper insight.

Why would there be an effort to promote such fear? Latin America is the world's most violent region and that's just a fact based on data. There are many reasons and this article explains it pretty well:


As for credible numbers, for example, here you have some data on Rio based on 600+ contributors:

Or take a look at this comparison between Rio and Miami:

And when you compare it with most European big cities, it's just ridiculously unsafe compared to them. Here's for example a comparison with Madrid:

Florianopolis is supposedly one of the safest, if not the safest, big city in Brazil:

These numbers are still shitty. It's what the local people report, not the media.

The argument of lacking vigilance and awareness is IMO erroneous. If you're in a safe place, you simply don't have to be vigilant and aware all the time, expecting something bad to happen, assuming that if something may be stolen, it always will be stolen.

Of course, it doesn't mean you do silly irresponsible stuff but it really isn't "normal" precautions or normal living if you can't leave your house at all at night, if you can't leave any valuable items whatsoever in your car or on the beach, if you can't even trust that your cab is a real cab and not a cab of an express kidnapper. Normal people don't have to live behind bars, with huge reinforced gates, dogs, and private security.

You can reduce your risk with proper behaviors but your risk is still infinitely higher than in the rest of (much less violent) world. I'd post some stories of people who have lived in these unsafe countries for years, so were supposedly vigilant and aware, yet were still targeted. I'm pretty sure they all thought that vigilance and awareness was all they needed. But ultimately you can't beat the odds if you live in a place with crime rates 10-100x higher than in more peaceful and lawful regions.

It seems the rest of the Carribbean are more skeptical culturally and don't vibe well with mandates or restrictions. Makes sense considering that, european colonists killed and enslaved them en masse not too long ago.

Some of the Caribbean nations have had some of the world's most idiotic restrictions. To this day, many of them still have some silly restrictions. Stuff like night curfews, wearing a mask all the time OUTDOORS (in a freaking tropical climate), prohibiting people to go to the beach or hike. They're also still mentally in the early 2020 thinking that C is going to kill us all.

There's a lot of brain drain in the area and it shows in already mentally-challenged politicians, too.
 
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anybody from singapore
 

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anybody from singapore

Singapore is great for wealthy big city lovers. Otherwise terribly claustrophobic and expensive.
 

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From a public good provision to tax rate perspective, Singapore is wonderful.

Crime rate is low.

Living expenses I would say not high compared to other big cities (high income level). Food is relatively cheap.

C0VlD-19 regulation non-compliance is quick ticket to jail.

Market is smaller is you aspire to do business here to serve local customers.
 
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But I could also show you hundreds, thousands of videos relating to crime right in the USA. I'm just not convinced that a collection of videos or stories = reality of the experience. I think a robust set of credible numbers could provide deeper insight.

*EDIT: or better yet, go to Brazil for a few months and form your own opinion. I hope to do something like this myself.

That's because a lot of places in the US are shitholes too, basically.

And I agree it does not equal the reality, but it does give a very big hint at the right direction. It's hard to find such videos coming from Japan for example.
 

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The argument of lacking vigilance and awareness is IMO erroneous. If you're in a safe place, you simply don't have to be vigilant and aware all the time, expecting something bad to happen, assuming that if something may be stolen, it always will be stolen.
Where I grew up just outside Vancouver, BC, it was a well known fact that if you ever left anything out in plain view in your car, even just a couple of dollars in coins in your cup holder, some junkie would smash your window and take it.

When I walked around at night with my friends, we were usually armed with something just in case.

A couple of years ago in North Vancouver, my sister was sitting at a bus stop texting me as we were about to meet up. She stopped replying which was strange and her next message was that she was in the hospital.
Some junkie in his car passed out at a red light from taking fentanyl then when he snapped awake as someone asked him if he was ok, he sped through the intersection, ran over her legs then hit a tree. Thankfully she survived, but she's going to live with pain and disability the rest of her life.

My point is that nowhere is completely safe. You're always taking some risk going out of your door. Even in one of the most sought after expensive places to live in the world like Vancouver.

I don't live how you describe that everyone does south of the US border, and I don't know anyone here who does, although I'm sure they're out there. Everyone I do know that has either grown up here or lived here a long time has rarely had any of the problems you're describing.

I'm not trying to change your mind, because you've clearly made it up already, personal experience or not, but to others who are considering Latin America know this: you could get mugged, murdered, or run over anywhere on the planet. Why deprive yourself of the life you truly want because of fear? That's no way to live in my opinion. Kind of similar to all of the restrictions governments are putting in place now to "keep us safe". People are too soft now. Take a F*ckin chance and enjoy your life. Don't live out of fear.
 

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Small assholes related crime I can deal with. The crime that frightens me is the organized kind, that works on extortion.

The #1 thing that frightens me in Mexico is the rise of kidnapping rings that have popped up. They kidnap people from parking lots and wherever, and extort your family for money. Depending on the ring, sometimes you end up dead, sometimes not. Everyone pays something, and they negotiate, so it is lucrative and so they keep doing it.

My niece was kidnapped with some friends when she was 16 years old. She was gang raped by these thugs, and eventually released at great expense to my Mexican family. She was taken from a mall parking lot during the day.

This particular issue I believe to be a cultural one. Some people literally know those who work for these kidnapping rings, and they just accept it because they won't target this particular neighborhood. When you have that mentality nothing changes. It is how politicians get away with the crap they do "oh, those rules don't affect me, I don't care". The people need to stand up and start beating to death these individuals.

So, there are particular areas of Mexico where these things operate. I don't step foot in that area, and I will not let me wife or family there either. Sadly a hot bed for this is where my wife's parents live. So she doesn't get to go home, and I absolutely refuse letting my kids ever go there. I'd pay for them to move, but they are old and stubborn and will not ever do it, but I guess that is their choice in life to make
 
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Where I grew up just outside Vancouver, BC, it was a well known fact that if you ever left anything out in plain view in your car, even just a couple of dollars in coins in your cup holder, some junkie would smash your window and take it.

See, this is not normal where I live. I or my girlfriend sometimes even forget to take a mobile phone from the car and it's somewhere in plain view. I don't think I've heard even once of someone smashing someone's car window to steal something here. I don't think I've ever seen a junkie anywhere in Poland, or actually, I don't even remember seeing any junkies anywhere in Europe (in the US, yes, tons of them).

I assume this is probably way more common in the Americas due to the easier access to hard drugs and higher prevalence. But here? Not really. And I've visited over 30 countries, both in Europe and elsewhere, so I think I have some comparison.

I guess this may also depend on the city. I don't live in a big city and to be honest, hate them and feel less comfortable there. I'm pretty sure that the safety issues are always much more pronounced in the bigger cities, regardless of the country.

I'm not trying to change your mind, because you've clearly made it up already, personal experience or not, but to others who are considering Latin America know this: you could get mugged, murdered, or run over anywhere on the planet. Why deprive yourself of the life you truly want because of fear? That's no way to live in my opinion. Kind of similar to all of the restrictions governments are putting in place now to "keep us safe". People are too soft now. Take a f*ckin chance and enjoy your life. Don't live out of fear.

Obviously in the end it's a personal decision based on one's values. I happen to prioritize personal security when it comes to crime. More adventurous people may enjoy edgier places.

To say that nowhere is safe is a straw man.

I can't help but shake my head when I hear "anywhere on the planet you can get mugged, murdered, or run over." Theoretically, yes, of course. Statistically, your chances of getting mugged, murdered, or run over are non-existent in places like, for example, Andorra, Monaco, Japan, Singapore, Qatar, Norway, or Slovenia. These are just a few examples of many countries where these risks are so negligible they almost don't exist.

It's fascinating how different these standards actually are. I take them for granted in most of Europe and some of the other countries I've mentioned but it seems it isn't as normal elsewhere.

This forum is mostly people from the US so I guess that safety/violence standards differ a lot from what European members here are used to. I know it may sound strange to the people from the Americas but there really are places where these violent crimes are so incredibly rare it's as if they don't happen at all. This isn't the case in Latin America.

For example, just to rely on data and not my opinion alone, the rate of intentional homicide per 100,000 inhabitants in Mexico is 60x higher than in Slovenia, United Arab Emirates, or Italy. I have no idea what the rate is for petty crime as it often goes unreported in less safe countries but I wouldn't be surprised if the risk increases by way more than 60x.

But in the end, it's just my opinion. If people love their lives there despite the dangers, good for them. I do wish I wasn't so soft but it is what it is. Some people are weak cowards and I happen to be one of them.
 

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My niece was kidnapped with some friends when she was 16 years old. She was gang raped by these thugs, and eventually released at great expense to my Mexican family. She was taken from a mall parking lot during the day.

This is so horrible. I'm sorry to hear that.

That's why it isn't always the case of vigilance and awareness. We aren't talking about drunk teenagers in the middle of the night but a mall parking during the day.

Also, this is what I'm referring to when I say that certain things just don't happen outside of Latin America. There is no "being kidnapped from a mall parking during the day followed by gang raping can happen anywhere."

This level of degeneration is so horrible that people living in normal places probably can't even grasp how something so terrible can happen there frequently.
 

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For example, just to rely on data and not my opinion alone, the rate of intentional homicide per 100,000 inhabitants in Mexico is 60x higher than in Slovenia, United Arab Emirates, or Italy. I have no idea what the rate is for petty crime as it often goes unreported in less safe countries but I wouldn't be surprised if the risk increases by way more than 60x.
I don't have a lot of experience in places other than USA, Canada or Mexico. However, I would say that the petty crime rate in pretty much all of Mexico is through the absolute roof! Even the safe areas have petty crime. This is more like if you leave something out it will be taken. You won't be pick pocketed or anything, but if you drop something or leave something in view it is gone.

There is something about that culture that lets people think they have the right to other peoples belongings, and it drives me insane. However, I will take that any day over the "right" over your life and freedom that Canada is starting to adopt. Every day I am getting more and more disfranchised with this place. I absolutely still want to summer here for the lakes and mountains and forests. But other than that? Nope. I have vowed to my entire family that my children will not step foot in a public school institute in this country. I am not going near those brainwashing factories.
 
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This is so horrible. I'm sorry to hear that.

That's why it isn't always the case of vigilance and awareness. We aren't talking about drunk teenagers in the middle of the night but a mall parking during the day.

Also, this is what I'm referring to when I say that certain things just don't happen outside of Latin America. There is no "being kidnapped from a mall parking during the day followed by gang raping can happen anywhere."

This level of degeneration is so horrible that people living in normal places probably can't even grasp how something so terrible can happen there frequently.
Here is another one for you, same city. My wife's first ever boyfriend was recently murdered, during the day, in a restaurant. I guess there were 3 of them eating together, when gunmen came in and opened fire on the the table. The reason? One of them was working with a cartel on the side and made them mad, or didn't do what they wanted, or maybe did what they wanted, who knows. The point is, that the other two may or may not have even known what that one guy was up to, and they still ended up dead.

Things like this could have been us. Wife could have ran into her old friend, we agree to catch up and go for a bite to eat. The hard-core criminals pick that day to off him. We end up in the crossfire. So yea, more reason to absolutely stay away from those hotbeds of cartel and organized crime.

I am still choosing Mexico as my home country for the next while. I will not be going to the mentioned places, or anywhere even remotely similar. You want to pull that crap? I won't be a part of it.
 

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I feel like people often lose sight of context when talking about safety/crime by looking at a country's aggregate numbers. I understand why though. It's easier to just look at a couple of individual numbers for a county and mentally rank it into "safe" or "unsafe" buckets. Countries are big though (even relatively small ones), and crime is not evenly distributed. In any given country, there are places that are literally orders of magnitude more or less safe than others, and sometimes those places might just be a street or two from each other. The same goes for certain behaviors/activities that you may be doing there. There are places that are pretty safe for normal people but MUCH less safe for people engaged in criminal activity. There are places that are pretty safe for locals but not tourists, and vice versa.

I lived for a while in one of the safest countries/cities in the world, working in one of the safest professions imaginable, and within a block of where I worked, there were random street violence/stabbings, daylight robberies with ak47s, along with multiple murders literally next door. That block or two probably made up a significant percentage of crime in the entire country, little consolation to the victims though. Having said that, I never felt unsafe or at risk there either. Crime is hyper-local and very contextual.
 

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See, this is not normal where I live. I or my girlfriend sometimes even forget to take a mobile phone from the car and it's somewhere in plain view. I don't think I've heard even once of someone smashing someone's car window to steal something here. I don't think I've ever seen a junkie anywhere in Poland, or actually, I don't even remember seeing any junkies anywhere in Europe (in the US, yes, tons of them).

I assume this is probably way more common in the Americas due to the easier access to hard drugs and higher prevalence. But here? Not really. And I've visited over 30 countries, both in Europe and elsewhere, so I think I have some comparison.

I guess this may also depend on the city. I don't live in a big city and to be honest, hate them and feel less comfortable there. I'm pretty sure that the safety issues are always much more pronounced in the bigger cities, regardless of the country.



Obviously in the end it's a personal decision based on one's values. I happen to prioritize personal security when it comes to crime. More adventurous people may enjoy edgier places.

To say that nowhere is safe is a straw man.

I can't help but shake my head when I hear "anywhere on the planet you can get mugged, murdered, or run over." Theoretically, yes, of course. Statistically, your chances of getting mugged, murdered, or run over are non-existent in places like, for example, Andorra, Monaco, Japan, Singapore, Qatar, Norway, or Slovenia. These are just a few examples of many countries where these risks are so negligible they almost don't exist.

It's fascinating how different these standards actually are. I take them for granted in most of Europe and some of the other countries I've mentioned but it seems it isn't as normal elsewhere.

This forum is mostly people from the US so I guess that safety/violence standards differ a lot from what European members here are used to. I know it may sound strange to the people from the Americas but there really are places where these violent crimes are so incredibly rare it's as if they don't happen at all. This isn't the case in Latin America.

For example, just to rely on data and not my opinion alone, the rate of intentional homicide per 100,000 inhabitants in Mexico is 60x higher than in Slovenia, United Arab Emirates, or Italy. I have no idea what the rate is for petty crime as it often goes unreported in less safe countries but I wouldn't be surprised if the risk increases by way more than 60x.

But in the end, it's just my opinion. If people love their lives there despite the dangers, good for them. I do wish I wasn't so soft but it is what it is. Some people are weak cowards and I happen to be one of them.
You choose the places based on the packages and surely it makes sense personal safety is a big concern.

Singapore is particularly attractive for female expats for being able to jog alone after 10pm and not being worried about anything.

Another recent trend is related to cryptocurrency. As the global crack down on. Crypto intensifies a lot of crypto hedge fund, exchange headquarters are moving to Singapore.

But ultimately it boils down to how much your budget is. I assume, correct me if I am wrong, even if you live in North America, or even South America, where crime stats are much higher, if you can afford to live in a rich neighborhood these shitty things do not happen there.

So it seems strange no one is discussing on the most important thing-the impact on your business. If you have no business that can be run remotely then can you find a good paying job there? If you already had the money to move there, or if there is a good paying job which you can find there, other factors become trival.

Let us say you currently run a profitable restaurant business in your home country and it is not location independent it doesn’t matter how “good on paper” your destination country is…it is just too much too give up, and there is no point being poor in a new place.
 
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I'm pretty sure that the safety issues are always much more pronounced in the bigger cities, regardless of the country.

Agree. And this likely applies to Brazil. If you go like say Rio de Janeiro, yeah, crime is very high. For example, a friend of mine told me about a friend of hers that lives in the Rio slums, he was going to play football with his friends but the match was cancelled because one of the players got killed by a random bullet of a shooting of the slums... So yeah, that probably won't happen in Zurich.

BUT, if you go away from the coast and in to the continent, you have places like Penedo, that is a Finish colony. I bet crime in that town and similar small places is quite low. Though if you look at the statistics it gets thrown in as unsafe with the whole country. The whole state of Minas Gerais has this relaxed and quite friendly vibe in my experience.





View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM90zwqljCc




So you get the sunny climate, the freedom, and the security. Plus you are just two / three hours away from amazing surfing beaches, incredible national parks like the Chiapadas, etc.

I guess i'm not really objective since I had great times in Brazil and kind of love the place.
 

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But ultimately it boils down to how much your budget is. I assume, correct me if I am wrong, even if you live in North America, or even South America, where crime stats are much higher, if you can afford to live in a rich neighborhood these shitty things do not happen there.
It's not only about your budget. Generally, the farther you get from the city, the safer and cheaper it is, no matter what country you're in. (I think most people from other countries would probably be surprised how cheap/safe small-town America is.) Not everyone enjoys rural life, but everything has its tradeoffs. A bigger budget just means you can buy your way out of some of those tradeoffs.
 

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