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you know , i thought like you 10 years ago

i thought these tests were entertainment for stupid people


but i was surprised to find that the description is very accurate in my case

so this can't be by accident.

for example , i have never fitted very well social norms, parties,

all these absurd social events where you lose your time picking up girls who don't care about you and where you drink beer while talking about stupid things

just by saying that , i will alienate 90 % of the users of this forum

which is a real proof that i really belong to these category of weird strategist
That just means you're cool. You don't need a test to tell you that. ;)
 
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That just means you're cool. You don't need a test to tell you that. ;)


maybe you are right. i am not here to argue and to find who is right

all i know is that i live indeed in the future which means that i am always looking forward to reach the next level

instead of being a machine like most people : working, eating ,sleeping ,watching tv for 80 years and then they die

and society and the universe won't even know that they lived.


i don't know how to live in the now like most people , at least not until i achieve what i want because i am thinking about the future all the time

i have a mission in life : to live according to my understanding of life

most people live according to society's leaders way of life, not theirs

they believe whatever the medias tell them, they don't check anything . they are members of the system.


i am not a member of the system, i don't vote because the systeme is corrupted. i do research, i won't endorse ignorance and stupidity

i will fight for intelligence and truth

which means that i look weird for society by definition because society seeks status quo

not initiative to change the system

and this is INTJ definition : being a visionnary

 
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ENTP every single test I take.

More ambivert than extravert, as I enjoy time with people and alone.

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since we have the same brain patterns, i suggest you go here :

https://intj.university/

the founder just sent me an email by the way

someone who can understand me at last !!

just check the attached file so you can have a taste

it is called " descontructing humanity": The INTJ Guide to Understanding & Embracing “Normal” People


which is really in my opinion " how to understand people who don't care about things that are not trivial ( 95 % of people ) "

yes people here won't agree with my last sentence, but remember that INTJ are "weird" from your point of view

so logic is respected anyway...
 

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since we have the same brain patterns, i suggest you go here :

https://intj.university/

the founder just sent me an email by the way

someone who can understand me at last !!

just check the attached file so you can have a taste

it is called " descontructing humanity": The INTJ Guide to Understanding & Embracing “Normal” People


which is really in my opinion " how to understand people who don't care about things that are not trivial ( 95 % of people ) "

yes people here won't agree with my last sentence, but remember that INTJ are "weird" from your point of view

so logic is respected anyway...
Thank you ill look it up haha
 

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by the way , a famous INTJ guy i am sure you have heard of..

the guy is my moral mentor :

he doesn't need social proof

he makes his rules

he shoots for the stars

the perfect strategist


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ENTP. I'd like to think it stands for 'Entrepreneur" lol.

I do take this with a grain of salt though. This is similar to how horoscopes work. It's general enough to apply to most and uses specific and vivid language to relate it to you.

But on the other hand, I'm sure it can't be 100% nonsense. I have a feeling that the biggest reason this loses accuracy is because we cannot truly be honest with ourselves. Our brain thinks of us a certain way and it's very hard to judge ourselves. This is probably the reason for getting different results after a couple weeks time has passed.

This would probably be a little more accurate if somebody else answered the questions about you. They wouldn't have a bias and would answer more truthfully.


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Mind

74%
INTROVERTED
Energy

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INTUITIVE
Nature

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THINKING
Tactics

58%
JUDGING
Identity

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TURBULENT

Similar in comparison to Strengthsfinder 2.0

1. Deliberative
2. Intellection
3. Strategic
4. Consistency
5. Analytical
 

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That's an old thread, although was fun to take the test.

I've tried this type of tests 3 times, having 1 year break between them and got different result every time... I think I might be a little unstable
 
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I've been stuck as an ENTP for 5 years after declaring I'd be one after testing as an INTJ throughout highschool.
I highly expected to test ENTJ about 2 weeks ago considering how much more social, frenetic and initiative-taking I've become in the past year, but no, I'm still an ENTP-T .

It's sweet being able to fluidly come up with and build out so many ideas and see things grow and develop in my head constantly without much direct effort, but also terrible in that my follow-through game has almost been nil. In the words of Kevin O'Leary, "it's easy to drown in opportunity; settling and sacrificing is the hard part of entrepreneurship" .
 

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Mind - 97% Introverted (92%)
Energy - 80% Intuitive (71%)
Nature - 61% Thinking (60%)
Tactics - 83% Judging (85%)
Identity - 56% Assertive (53%)

Done the test twice from curiosity. First - relaxed and sober results; in braces tired, in the middle of the night, after drinking a beer.

From my observations, my brain is definitely slower in simple, but not automatic tasks than most peoples. On the other hand, I can keep in the head more pictures/steps and other information when thinking of something more complex. And my long term memory seems to be more visual, meaning I usually remember something as video/imagination/picture/3d. Not sure if that's the case for most people. This also gives me huge troubles with remembering simple "key-value" data, like birthdays. The only ones I remember are mine, my wife's and my brothers, it's hard to remember even my kid's birthdays...

Just realized how I remember those birthdays:
  • mine - the first page in the passport
  • my wife's - it's actually the day of my grand-grandmother death and I remember the monument, please don't tell her
  • my brothers - easy, last day of spring
"Took a picture" of kid's birth certificates, working for now.

This forum is great, lol.
 
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"Everything you do right now ripples outward and affects everyone. Your posture can shine your heart or transmit anxiety. Your breath can radiate love or muddy the room in depression. Your glance can awaken joy. Your words can inspire freedom. Your every act can open hearts and minds." David Deida

This quote is actually very true for me. But it describes me only in situations when I'm with my friends, or people I've got some kind of influence on.
 
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INTP-A / INTP-T

The Logician personality type is fairly rare, making up only three percent of the population, which is definitely a good thing for them, as there’s nothing they’d be more unhappy about than being “common”. Logicians pride themselves on their inventiveness and creativity, their unique perspective and vigorous intellect. Usually known as the philosopher, the architect, or the dreamy professor, Logicians have been responsible for many scientific discoveries throughout history.


It's all scarily accurate, I might buy their guide, has anyone bought one and got feedback on it?
 

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ENTJ-A have got it consistently for a few years and would agree with most I what I read describing my personality
 

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These kinds of tests do provide interesting feedback, but all the results are always truism statements that can be made about anyone. It makes me think that any kind of paid report from any of these sites is the same as hiring a fortune teller.

Barnum effect - Wikipedia
 
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ENTP/INTP depending on the day but NTP always

I'm personally a fan of MTBI as I've gained some valuable insights on myself and strengths/weaknesses in certain areas.

However, it is important not to take them too seriously as you can easily start to view/identify yourself too much with what the results say, causing you to put yourself into a box and live according to that identity.
 

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Personality type: “The Advocate” (INFJ-T)
Individual traits: Introverted – 92%, Intuitive – 63%, Feeling – 56%, Judging – 53%, Turbulent – 75%
Role: Diplomat
Strategy: Constant Improvement

Apparently, I'm in a 1% rare species. Not sure I agree with "Feeling" though, I tend to overthink.
 

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On the other hand, if you're a software developer, you're probably an NT, and you can see that NTs aren't nearly as common in other industries

That's what I was expecting as a software dev, but got NF instead. Pretty close though (Thinking– 44%, Feeling – 56%). I suppose having been a musician for half of my life may have screwed the results, lol.
 
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Found something quite interesting here:
Why INFPs, INTPs, INFJs, & INTJs Struggle to Act
Why INFPs, INTPs, INFJs, & INTJs Struggle to Act | Personality Junkie

Concretely, for INTJ & INFJ, it says:

INJs’ inferior function, Extraverted Sensing (Se), is arguably the most “worldly” and action-oriented of all the functions. Ni, in contrast, is the most “otherworldly,” idealistic, and abstract. Hence, INJs’ difficulty with regard to action is best understood in terms of their struggle to reconcile these opposing functions.

Their Ni provides INJs with ideals, that is, with solutions or answers to improve the outside world. They often find their visions incredibly beautiful and compelling, finding it difficult to accept anything less than the seemingly perfect solution proffered by their Ni. To actualize this ideal, INJs must find a way to transform it into a tangible reality (Se). Unfortunately, because life is messy and does not readily conform to such idealistic efforts, INJs quickly learn that their visions are almost always tarnished in the process of actualization. Once the ideal has been tainted, it is easy for INJs (especially INFJs) to become despondent and lose all interest.


And it finishes saying that you can either become an machine of ideas, or shallow your perfectionism when building those ideas if you want to finish them.

In particular, this sentence "Once the ideal has been tainted, it is easy for INJs (especially INFJs) to become despondent and lose all interest." explains why I got excited so many times defining an idea but had a hard time to make it real once I found out how it would look like. It also explains my inclination towards writing software tools instead of building projects with them, or why I have laser-focus when solving the big problems at the start of a project but can't focus and get bored when implementing features that are repetitive.

Good to know the reasons, maybe now I can fight the problems better.
 

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INJs’ difficulty with regard to action is best understood in terms of their struggle to reconcile these opposing functions.
Great post!

Being INTJ, I've found that problem long ago and have a semi-working solution for that.

The first thing is to limit the Ni. Plan everything and every outcomes only 4-5 steps ahead maximum. It's hard cause we like to overthink everything with every possible outcome, find every problem in every detail for each scenario and etc. But after all that, the initial idea seems not so appealing and you lose some interest even before the start. So my solution is to think everything almost to the end in big-picture, with no driving in details at all. Step down to details for the next one - three months. Go full details for the upcoming week.

Another thing is the "hat" trick. I think I've learned it from John Sommers (SimpleProgrammer) videos. Basically, you totally switch between thinker and executioner roles. He's using a hat for that. Thinking only with a hat on, only execute like an employee without the hat. The only way to switch back to thinking role is to finish the current execution step or bump into a rock-solid wall that would force more thinking.

Those two tricks really made miracles for me, hope they'll help someone else too.
 

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I'm an INFP. Did this test like 3 or 4 times, always INFP so I guess it's accurate.

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Seemed about 95% accurate.

The biggest thing I was curious about is it said we strive for the entrepreneur lifestyle, however it also says we second guess ourselves. I mean, this is extremely accurate for me:
  • Second-Guess Themselves – Logicians remain so open to new information that they often never commit to a decision at all. This applies to their own skills as well – Logician personalities know that as they practice, they improve, and any work they do is second-best to what they could do. Unable to settle for this, Logicians sometimes delay their output indefinitely with constant revisions, sometimes even quitting before they ever begin.
 

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I don't remember if I replied here, but I hate the Myers-Briggs. I actually despise it. Why? So many businesses use it, but every ouch of science say it has almost no predictive utility. It's based on the work of Carl Jung like 100 years ago. No one in science actually uses the Myers Briggs inventory anymore because it's archaic and we have better personality measures. The only personality measure that science uses now is the Big 5.

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This is the best inventory I've found: Understand Myself - What You Need to Know

Another thing is the results of the MBTI are binary. You're either Extravert or Introvert. There are no shades of grey. In real life you might be 65% introvert, 35% extrovert. The MBTI just says "introvert."

There are boatloads of other reasons why the MBTI isn't very valid:


Please stop using the MBTI. It tells us almost nothing about personality. I mean it's not as atrocious as say... astrology, but it's still deeply flawed and unscientific. The Big 5 used complex statistical analyses in order to develop personality scales. The MBTI is basically guesswork. Big 5 will actually tell you a lot about your personality. MBTI will not.
 

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Please stop using the MBTI. It tells us almost nothing about personality. I mean it's not as


i disagree

i am an INTJ and this is the most accurate description of my life i have ever read

ever

and this is not the barnum effect found in astrology


because the description is not vague but really accurate to the details

i don't belong to the stupid masterminds-managed masses indeed and i am very original indeed unlike the predictable masses

nobody here is as original as me . no one.

---> your thougts are the media 's thoughts. not yours

" oh did you hear about that on TV ! "




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if you can really understand the meaning of this picture ( i don't think so ) then you can know your future as a nation :

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and this is not the barnum effect found in astrology
I know it's not completely bullshit like Barnum Statements and Astrology, but it's still a relatively shitty measure. If there was a bullshit-o-meter, Astrology would be at 10, MBTI would be at 5, and the Big Five would be at 2. It's not complete bullshit but I don't see why we don't reduce the overall amount of bullshit in our lives.

The MBTI is poorly structured. You either are or aren't something. You can be 51% introverted, and 49% extroverted, and the MBTI would call you just as much an introvert at someone who's 100% introverted. Furthermore, you can take the test next month and then be 49.7% extroverted and just by answering one question differently because you squinted your eyes differently, all of a sudden this month you're an extrovert among the likes of professional comedians and performers. Last month you were Sally at the library refusing to talk to anyone, this month you're Bono from U2 according to the MBTI. The reality is you were never either of this. You were always somewhere in the middle. Big 5 would account for these.

Furthermore the way the Big 5 was developed is drastically more sophisticated. Psychologists took a shitload of personality questions, gathered the answers and looked at which answered tended to cluster together.

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Once you get a bunch of questions in one cluster that looked like "i enjoy trying new things," or "i enjoy reading about unique and novel experiences" you say "OHH those are all similar!, let's call that one 'Openness to Experience." MBTI is just whatever Carl Jung felt like using. The technology just wasn't there when the MBTI was developed. That being said, there is a fair degree of overlap between the two models

I'm not denying that a MBTI assessment usually describes ones personality kinda well, but if you took a Big 5 inventory it would be a MUCH better description. It would be mind-blowing in comparison to the MBTI. Like it would explain almost everything that's ever happened to you in your life.
 

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@ChrisV I would say this is not an accurate understanding of MBTI. MBTI is never all or nothing, and whenever I want to know MBTI I want to know their specific breakdown. The way an INTJ that's 100% T compared to one that's 60% T behaves and thinks for example is different.

MBTI also acknowledges that people's type can change depending on what they're doing and who they're with.

At the base it is determined by one's preference to use a cognitive process pair, but the pair one chooses is not fixed. To add to that the more developed someone is, the more they will change what process pair they are using, but still they will have a preferred pair.

The Big Five in comparison is personality traits, which is less fluid and harder to understand a dichotomy of.

Perhaps my favorite thing about MBTI typing people is when they change from one type to another. I met up with an old friend I hadn't seen for a decade the other day, he acted ENFP most of the night, except when he started talking about knowledge regarding his field, at which point he switched to acting like an ENTJ! After we were no longer talking about his field however, he went right back to being ENFP.

I'm typically an ENTJ, although I do tap into ENTP for when I have more creative needs or am being more social and chill.

I think you would gain a lot from understanding the cognitive processes that underly MTBI: Understanding the 8 Jungian Cognitive Processes (8 Functions)

Edit: Well...lol. That's a first. 54|46 F|T split? Suppose that's not insane to believe...TFM and US have made me focus on people quite a lot.
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if you can really understand the meaning of this picture ( i don't think so ) then you can know your future as a nation :

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Yep, I'm aware...that eye scared me as a little kid. Not now.
@guy93777 Could you help me with my translation here?

ANNUIT COEPTIS NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM
Announcement(ANNUIT) of the Birth(conception) of the New (novice) World (secular) Order (ORDO)

Is that an accurate translation?

Also, to stick with thread content...I'm an INTP
 

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