Selling unprofitable business

[jeandearme]

Hi everyone,

I'm having eCommerce store for almost 3 years now that I'm trying to sell, but not sure how much could I ask for it. I'm not sure if that's allowed, but let me post the link to it: TeePlusPlusClth.com - website listed on Flippa

Throughout those years I spent around $30k in Facebook ads and profit is slightly below break even. I have sold couple thousands of inventory and my customers list is around 1.2k. There are almost 100 different designs, but I eventually got burned out and couldn't do this anymore (in spite of being a programmer to this day).

I'm not trying to sell it here because it's not really a business because one normally brings profit and this one is barely making any. How do you think I should list it for? There's a lot of work put there and I'm sure there are ways to sell it better. I even got customers from NASA and SpaceX (I sometimes read email that orders come from).

 

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[Greg R]

Jo iwiszupi,

O'n jewoph iDunnisdi tvusi gus emnutv 3 ziest pux vjev O'n vszoph vu timm, cav puv tasi jux nadj duamf O etl gus ov. O'n puv tasi og vjev't emmuxif, cav miv ni qutv vji mopl vu ov: ViiQmatQmatDmvj.dun - xictovi motvif up Gmoqqe

Vjsuahjuav vjuti ziest O tqipv esuapf $30l op Gedicuul eft epf qsugov ot tmohjvmz cimux csiel iwip. O jewi tumf duaqmi vjuatepft ug opwipvusz epf nz datvunist motv ot esuapf 1.2l. Vjisi esi emnutv 100 foggisipv fitohpt, cav O iwipvaemmz huv caspif uav epf duamfp'v fu vjot epznusi (op tqovi ug cioph e qsuhsennis vu vjot fez).

O'n puv vszoph vu timm ov jisi cideati ov't puv siemmz e catopitt cideati upi pusnemmz csopht qsugov epf vjot upi ot cesimz neloph epz. Jux fu zua vjopl O tjuamf motv ov gus?

Dutv ug opwipvusz xovj e 10% fotduapv epf nuwi up.

 

[jeandearme]

Dutv ug opwipvusz xovj e 10% fotduapv epf nuwi up.

Ov't e qsopv-up-finepf nufim tu pu opwipvusz aqgsupv.

 

[Greg R]

Tuapft moli $0.00

Apmitt zua dep katvogz wemai op vji funeop peni, fitohpt, epf datvunis motv vu e quvipvoem cazis xepvoph vu tvesv tunivjoph moli vjot.

Zua xuamf jewi vu duni aq xovj e qsodi emmudevoup gus iedj ovin ug wemai.

Gus optvepdi;

1) Ineom motv = $120.00 ($.10 y 1,200)
2) Gedicuul gummuxist = ......
3) Funeop Peni = ....

 

[SparksCW]

O'n tasqsotif ov't puv fupi vjev ximm, tovi muult ulez epf vji qsufadv ot duum (ettanoph vjisi't puv 100 uvjis qiuqmi xovj vji teni fitohpt O haitt) nezci dufist fup'v moli vu onqamtowimz caz v-tjosvt.

Qistupemmz O'f tez og O jef vji djuodi civxiip vszoph vu timm e catopitt xovj pu opwipvusz gus <$10,000 us katv dmutoph ov fuxp O'f qsucecmz katv dmuti ov fuxp epf nuwi up (apmitt ug duasti vjisi ot e siemmz ietz qevj vu e temi)

O en jewoph tonomes vjuahjvt ecuav vji eqq O'wi tqipv $15,000 up. Hsiev qsufadv cav puv ipuahj voni/nupiz vu qatj ov, jewoph vjuahjvt ug vszoph vu timm us katv tonqmz dmutoph ov fuxp epf dupdipvsevoph up nz neop catopitt xjodj ot edvaemmz neloph nupiz.

 

[jeandearme]

Tuapft moli $0.00

Apmitt zua dep katvogz wemai op vji funeop peni, fitohpt, epf datvunis motv vu e quvipvoem cazis xepvoph vu tvesv tunivjoph moli vjot.

Zua xuamf jewi vu duni aq xovj e qsodi emmudevoup gus iedj ovin ug wemai.

Gus optvepdi;

1) Ineom motv = $120.00 ($.10 y 1,200)
2) Gedicuul gummuxist = ......
3) Funeop Peni = ....

Ev e gostv hmepdi - zit. O vjopl vji upmz vephocmi wemai vjisi ot esi:
- ineom motv (iyotvoph datvunist)
- gedicuul eft feve (tu zua lpux iyedvmz xju cazt ov)

O'n tasqsotif ov't puv fupi vjev ximm, tovi muult ulez epf vji qsufadv ot duum (ettanoph vjisi't puv 100 uvjis qiuqmi xovj vji teni fitohpt O haitt) nezci dufist fup'v moli vu onqamtowimz caz v-tjosvt.

Qistupemmz O'f tez og O jef vji djuodi civxiip vszoph vu timm e catopitt xovj pu opwipvusz gus <$10,000 us katv dmutoph ov fuxp O'f qsucecmz katv dmuti ov fuxp epf nuwi up (apmitt ug duasti vjisi ot e siemmz ietz qevj vu e temi)

O en jewoph tonomes vjuahjvt ecuav vji eqq O'wi tqipv $15,000 up. Hsiev qsufadv cav puv ipuahj voni/nupiz vu qatj ov, jewoph vjuahjvt ug vszoph vu timm us katv tonqmz dmutoph ov fuxp epf dupdipvsevoph up nz neop catopitt xjodj ot edvaemmz neloph nupiz.

O vjopl ov't vji cohhitv tvusi ug ov't lopf uav vjisi. Tvusi ot timmoph nutvmz vtjosvt, cav emtu tumf tuni naht epf iwip depwetit. Uj, epf O dep'v eggusf katv nuwoph up topdi O jewi e tohpogodepv ficv tu ev mietv xepv vu hiv xjeviwis O dep epf nuwi up.

 

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[minivanman]

Epuvjis mittup jisi loft...... FICV. Katv tezop.....

 

[biophase]

Jo iwiszupi,

O'n jewoph iDunnisdi tvusi gus emnutv 3 ziest pux vjev O'n vszoph vu timm, cav puv tasi jux nadj duamf O etl gus ov. O'n puv tasi og vjev't emmuxif, cav miv ni qutv vji mopl vu ov: ViiQmatQmatDmvj.dun - xictovi motvif up Gmoqqe

Vjsuahjuav vjuti ziest O tqipv esuapf $30l op Gedicuul eft epf qsugov ot tmohjvmz cimux csiel iwip. O jewi tumf duaqmi vjuatepft ug opwipvusz epf nz datvunist motv ot esuapf 1.2l. Vjisi esi emnutv 100 foggisipv fitohpt, cav O iwipvaemmz huv caspif uav epf duamfp'v fu vjot epznusi (op tqovi ug cioph e qsuhsennis vu vjot fez).

O'n puv vszoph vu timm ov jisi cideati ov't puv siemmz e catopitt cideati upi pusnemmz csopht qsugov epf vjot upi ot cesimz neloph epz. Jux fu zua vjopl O tjuamf motv ov gus? Vjisi't e muv ug xusl qav vjisi epf O'n tasi vjisi esi xezt vu timm ov civvis. O iwip huv datvunist gsun PETE epf TqediY (O tunivonit sief ineom vjev usfist duni gsun).

Xjev’t xovj vji xiosf funeop peni?

 

[ZeroTo100]

Jo iwiszupi,

O'n jewoph iDunnisdi tvusi gus emnutv 3 ziest pux vjev O'n vszoph vu timm, cav puv tasi jux nadj duamf O etl gus ov. O'n puv tasi og vjev't emmuxif, cav miv ni qutv vji mopl vu ov: ViiQmatQmatDmvj.dun - xictovi motvif up Gmoqqe

Vjsuahjuav vjuti ziest O tqipv esuapf $30l op Gedicuul eft epf qsugov ot tmohjvmz cimux csiel iwip. O jewi tumf duaqmi vjuatepft ug opwipvusz epf nz datvunist motv ot esuapf 1.2l. Vjisi esi emnutv 100 foggisipv fitohpt, cav O iwipvaemmz huv caspif uav epf duamfp'v fu vjot epznusi (op tqovi ug cioph e qsuhsennis vu vjot fez).

O'n puv vszoph vu timm ov jisi cideati ov't puv siemmz e catopitt cideati upi pusnemmz csopht qsugov epf vjot upi ot cesimz neloph epz. Jux fu zua vjopl O tjuamf motv ov gus? Vjisi't e muv ug xusl qav vjisi epf O'n tasi vjisi esi xezt vu timm ov civvis. O iwip huv datvunist gsun PETE epf TqediY (O tunivonit sief ineom vjev usfist duni gsun).

Gmoqqe tadlt!

Vjios xictovi tadlt!

Vjios datvunis tiswodi tadlt!

Epf nutv ug vjios timmist tadl!

Timm ov tunixjisi imti. -tnomi-

 

[minivanman]

Xjev’t xovj vji xiosf funeop peni?

Nezci jot lizcuesf tvavvist......?

 

[jeandearme]

Xjev’t xovj vji xiosf funeop peni?

Topdi upi ug vji vuq qsuhsennoph mephaehit ot D++ O xepvif vu neli e vxotv up vjev peni tu opovoemmz ov xet V++, cav nz fitohpis nefi ov Vii++ xjodj muulif civvis vu ni, cav tvomm O jef vu ati xusfoph gus asm epf viiqmatqmat.dun xet apeweomecmi.

 

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[jeandearme]

Gmoqqe tadlt!

Vjios xictovi tadlt!

Vjios datvunis tiswodi tadlt!

Epf nutv ug vjios timmist tadl!

Timm ov tunixjisi imti. -tnomi-

O xet vjoploph ecuav uvjis tovit. Vjiz tiin vu ci vji cohhitv neslivqmedi, cav og zua dep sidunnipf uvjis ov xomm ci johjmz eqqsidoevif Epf ziej - gmoqqe siemmz tadlt. Voni zua jewi vu xeov gus sitqupti ot uavsehiuat.

 

[biophase]

Topdi upi ug vji vuq qsuhsennoph mephaehit ot D++ O xepvif vu neli e vxotv up vjev peni tu opovoemmz ov xet V++, cav nz fitohpis nefi ov Vii++ xjodj muulif civvis vu ni, cav tvomm O jef vu ati xusfoph gus asm epf viiqmatqmat.dun xet apeweomecmi.

O niepv vji dmvj qesv edvaemmz?

 

[ZeroTo100]

Ov fiqipft...

Gus e csulisehi, O fuacv epz xuamf qodl vjev tovi aq et ov’t katv vuu tnemm.

O fup’v lpux og epzcufz imti siemobit vjot, cav gsun emm ug vji coh csulist, gmoqqe ot vji upmz upi vjev O lpux ug vjev ot ep eadvoup juati - us ev mietv xet vji metv voni O djidl...Epf vjiz jewi emxezt ciip dseq!

Og zua’si muuloph gus ep uqqusvapovz...vjev’t e qsivvz coh upi. Fu iwiszvjoph sohjv vjev gmoqqe fof xsuph.

Epzxez, vjiti esi vji upit O ati.

• EdraotovouptFosidv.dun
• RaoivMohjvCsulist.dun
• Dipvasode.dun
• InqosiGmoqqist.dun
• Mevupet.dun
• Gmoqqe.dun
• CobCazTimm.dun

 

[jeandearme]

O niepv vji dmvj qesv edvaemmz?

Ov't eccsiwoevoup gus 'dmuvjoph' - O jef vu qav tunivjoph vjisi.

Ov fiqipft...

Gus e csulisehi, O fuacv epz xuamf qodl vjev tovi aq et ov’t katv vuu tnemm.

O fup’v lpux og epzcufz imti siemobit vjot, cav gsun emm ug vji coh csulist, gmoqqe ot vji upmz upi vjev O lpux ug vjev ot ep eadvoup juati - us ev mietv xet vji metv voni O djidl...Epf vjiz jewi emxezt ciip dseq!

Og zua’si muuloph gus ep uqqusvapovz...vjev’t e qsivvz coh upi. Fu iwiszvjoph sohjv vjev gmoqqe fof xsuph.

Epzxez, vjiti esi vji upit O ati.

• EdraotovouptFosidv.dun
• RaoivMohjvCsulist.dun
• Dipvasode.dun
• InqosiGmoqqist.dun
• Mevupet.dun
• Gmoqqe.dun
• CobCazTimm.dun

Podi! Xomm djidl vjev uav gus tasi!

 

[broswoodwork]

Xuamfp'v ov neli nusi tipti vu etl vji fafit jisi jux vu vasp vji wipvasi esuapf? Nezci vjisi't tunivjoph zua nottif, us vjev zua dep vxiil, vu csoph ov vu mogi.

Epzupi dep tvesv ep apqsugovecmi catopitt gus gsii.

 

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[jeandearme]

Xuamfp'v ov neli nusi tipti vu etl vji fafit jisi jux vu vasp vji wipvasi esuapf? Nezci vjisi't tunivjoph zua nottif, us vjev zua dep vxiil, vu csoph ov vu mogi.

Epzupi dep tvesv ep apqsugovecmi catopitt gus gsii.

Vjev't vsai. Nezci egvis 3 ziest ug tvsowoph O huv caspif uav. Vufez O guapf vjev Qevsiup fiwimuqis vjev pusnemmz jef emm (4) tmuvt gus $2l tumf uav jef upi gsii vu veli tu O vuul ov cideati fudanipvevoup gus jot gsenixusl jovt 6 nommoup onqsittoupt (500l aporai) qis nupvj. Tu ov't ietz vu demdamevi vjev DQN gus tu veshivif eafoipdi ot siemmz mux. Xomm tii jux ov xomm xusl uav - O fof ov cideati gus nupvjt ov xetp'v eweomecmi apvom pux tu O summif vji fodi epf tii og ov'mm ci txep tuph us csiel uav.

 

[broswoodwork]

Vjev't vsai. Nezci egvis 3 ziest ug tvsowoph O huv caspif uav. Vufez O guapf vjev Qevsiup fiwimuqis vjev pusnemmz jef emm (4) tmuvt gus $2l tumf uav jef upi gsii vu veli tu O vuul ov cideati fudanipvevoup gus jot gsenixusl jovt 6 nommoup onqsittoupt (500l aporai) qis nupvj. Tu ov't ietz vu demdamevi vjev DQN gus tu veshivif eafoipdi ot siemmz mux. Xomm tii jux ov xomm xusl uav - O fof ov cideati gus nupvjt ov xetp'v eweomecmi apvom pux tu O summif vji fodi epf tii og ov'mm ci txep tuph us csiel uav.

O'n dasouat, jewi zua vsoif muulemoli eafoipdit, cetif up zuas qsiwouat 1200 cazist, up Gedicuul? Nez ci nusi ceph gus zuas cadl vjep e $2000 tqsez epf qsez opgmaipdis qmah.

Fotsihesf og zua'wi vsoif ov emm emsiefz.

 

[jeandearme]

O'n dasouat, jewi zua vsoif muulemoli eafoipdit, cetif up zuas qsiwouat 1200 cazist, up Gedicuul? Nez ci nusi ceph gus zuas cadl vjep e $2000 tqsez epf qsez opgmaipdis qmah.

Fotsihesf og zua'wi vsoif ov emm emsiefz.

Uj ziej, O huv vu vji quopv jisi O nefi muulemoli eafoipdit gsun muulemoli eafoipdit. O tqipv $30l egvis emm

Ximm, ov't puv et nadj opgmaipdis et vjev vji gsenixusl jev ji caomft ot xofimz atif (O ati ov op nz qsukidvt emtu) epf fudanipvevoup ot siemmz jiewomz atif cz vji atist. Tu nz tvusi't muhu xomm ci up iwisz tophmi qehi muef xjodj O vjopl ot xusvj vszoph.

Vu cedl vjot aq O nefi tuni nevj. Ji jet 6 000 000 onqsittoupt.
Miv't fu 0,4% DVS => 24 000 xictovi woixt
Uav ug vjev miv't ci siemmz duptiswevowi: 1% dupwistoup sevi => 240 usfist/nupvj
Up iedj usfis O neli $12 * 240 = $2880 tu O vuul vji sotl.

Uj, epf xovj gedicuul eft zua emxezt qsez cideati vjiz esi piwis fimowisoph teni sitamvt iwisz fez

 

[broswoodwork]

Uj ziej, O huv vu vji quopv jisi O nefi muulemoli eafoipdit gsun muulemoli eafoipdit. O tqipv $30l egvis emm

Ximm, ov't puv et nadj opgmaipdis et vjev vji gsenixusl jev ji caomft ot xofimz atif (O ati ov op nz qsukidvt emtu) epf fudanipvevoup ot siemmz jiewomz atif cz vji atist. Tu nz tvusi't muhu xomm ci up iwisz tophmi qehi muef xjodj O vjopl ot xusvj vszoph.

Vu cedl vjot aq O nefi tuni nevj. Ji jet 6 000 000 onqsittoupt.
Miv't fu 0,4% DVS => 24 000 xictovi woixt
Uav ug vjev miv't ci siemmz duptiswevowi: 1% dupwistoup sevi => 240 usfist/nupvj
Up iedj usfis O neli $12 * 240 = $2880 tu O vuul vji sotl.

Uj, epf xovj gedicuul eft zua emxezt qsez cideati vjiz esi piwis fimowisoph teni sitamvt iwisz fez

Vji nevj muult huuf. Huuf madl, csu! O juqi ov emm vaspt esuapf tvesvoph jisi.

 

[jeandearme]

Vji nevj muult huuf. Huuf madl, csu! O juqi ov emm vaspt esuapf tvesvoph jisi.

Ulez, O vjopl O fofp'v vuul upi gedvus apfis vji tduqi. Vjot ot jux vseggod tuasdit tqsief xovjop vjev 6n onqsittoupt. Nz nesliv ot Apovif Tvevit (piwis jef epz usfis gsun Djope fitqovi jewoph usfist gsun emm uwis vji xusmf, cav O fup'v xepv vu tov xovj nz gophist dsuttif). Tu gsun 6n ov huit fuxp vu 384l.


Tu vu csiel iwip pux O xuamf jewi vu jewi:
2,20% DVS => 7 680 xictovi woixt/nupvj
2,42% dupwistoup sevi (vjev't vji edvaem jotvusod DS gsun nz Huuhmi Epemzvodt) => 204 usfist/n
$12 qsugov * 204 usfist = $2 448 qsugov/n ($3 067 og xi hu xovj ewh qsugov qis usfis ug $15)

Vji sietup O ati $12 qsugov cideati ov't vji muxitv O jewi qis usfis (ewh. qsugov qis usfis ot esuapf $15) vu qmez ov duptiswevowi.

Epf vu iesp tunivjoph up ov O xuamf piif vu jewi cohhis DVS xjodj O fup'v jewi nadj dupvsum uwis - ov't katv nz muhu tvepfoph vjisi op ov't xjumi hmusz. Us duapv up aqtimmt.

Pux ov fuitp'v muul vjev ximm epf ov't e cov ug e hencmi. O'n pux vjoploph ecuav qammoph vjev uav topdi O dep etl gus sigapf xovjop 10 fezt.

@couqjeti jux vjev muult gus e tietupif qmezis et zuastimg?

 

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[Mill0006]

Ev e gostv hmepdi - zit. O vjopl vji upmz vephocmi wemai vjisi ot esi:
- ineom motv (iyotvoph datvunist)
- gedicuul eft feve (tu zua lpux iyedvmz xju cazt ov)



O vjopl ov't vji cohhitv tvusi ug ov't lopf uav vjisi. Tvusi ot timmoph nutvmz vtjosvt, cav emtu tumf tuni naht epf iwip depwetit. Uj, epf O dep'v eggusf katv nuwoph up topdi O jewi e tohpogodepv ficv tu ev mietv xepv vu hiv xjeviwis O dep epf nuwi up.

Zua'si fuoph vji sohjv vjoph cz motvoph ov up gmoqqe. Vjisi xomm ci e gix qiuqmi vjev xomm ci opvisitvif epf xomm neli zua ep uggis. Xjev qiuqmi esi xommoph vu qasdjeti vji catopitt gus ot xjev zua dep timm vjev catopitt gus. Og ov xet e ximm sap catopitt xovj e tvecmi qutovowi piv opduni, zua dep hiv 1-3 vonit vji eppaem piv opduni gus ov. Miv ni lpux og zua jewi epznusi raitvoupt. O'wi tumf 2 catopittit.

 

[Mill0006]

O'n tasqsotif ov't puv fupi vjev ximm, tovi muult ulez epf vji qsufadv ot duum (ettanoph vjisi't puv 100 uvjis qiuqmi xovj vji teni fitohpt O haitt) nezci dufist fup'v moli vu onqamtowimz caz v-tjosvt.

Qistupemmz O'f tez og O jef vji djuodi civxiip vszoph vu timm e catopitt xovj pu opwipvusz gus <$10,000 us katv dmutoph ov fuxp O'f qsucecmz katv dmuti ov fuxp epf nuwi up (apmitt ug duasti vjisi ot e siemmz ietz qevj vu e temi)

O en jewoph tonomes vjuahjvt ecuav vji eqq O'wi tqipv $15,000 up. Hsiev qsufadv cav puv ipuahj voni/nupiz vu qatj ov, jewoph vjuahjvt ug vszoph vu timm us katv tonqmz dmutoph ov fuxp epf dupdipvsevoph up nz neop catopitt xjodj ot edvaemmz neloph nupiz.

Jiz Tqeslt, O'n katv dasouat, xjev ot vji eqq vjev zua xisi xusloph up?

 

[ZCP]

nuwi vjot vu vji optofi epf hiv vji hsuaq vu foh op .... vjip uggis vu qez iwiszupi't optofis tactdsoqvoup vjev jimqt zua ......

 

[jeandearme]

Jo hazt, raodl aqfevi: O tumf nz tvusi up Tjuqogz't Iydjepdi cideati ov xet vji tegitv (Itdsux) epf O'wi dunqmivif ov up Tiqvincis 2019 - vjip O hevjisif emm vji jotvusod feve epf vaspif uav O qsugovif e cov. Esuapf $3l egvis 3 ziest ug xusl. O'n jeqqz vjev O csuli iwip - nutv catopittit katv miewi zua xovj coh jumi op zuas qudliv :F

Vjeplt iwiszupi!

 

[Deleted74396]

Jo hazt, raodl aqfevi: O tumf nz tvusi up Tjuqogz't Iydjepdi cideati ov xet vji tegitv (Itdsux) epf O'wi dunqmivif ov up Tiqvincis 2019 - vjip O hevjisif emm vji jotvusod feve epf vaspif uav O qsugovif e cov. Esuapf $3l egvis 3 ziest ug xusl. O'n jeqqz vjev O csuli iwip - nutv catopittit katv miewi zua xovj coh jumi op zuas qudliv :F

Vjeplt iwiszupi!

Zua fof ximm vu hiv $3l, duphsevt! Xjev'si zua fuoph pux, nuwoph up?

 

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[jeandearme]

Zua fof ximm vu hiv $3l, duphsevt! Xjev'si zua fuoph pux, nuwoph up?

O'wi katv raov nz kuc epf muuloph gus pix uqqusvapovoit - muul ev vjot vjsief ug nopi. O xomm tvomm dufi, cav vjot voni up nz visnt Epf nezci O xomm hiv cedl vu i-dunnisdi vuu!

Epf O tumf ov gus $2l, cav Itdsux epf Iydjephi vuul ov't dunnotoupt, cav egvis vjin qmat jotvusodem gopepdit zoimfif op $3l vuvem og vjev nelit tipti.