My Experience Eating Keto/Carnivore

[Knugs]

Keto & I are in a really complicated relationship now. Surprising how easy it was actually for me to get into her. 3 days in and I measured +2.1 on the Keto blood meter. Full swing Ketosis with no Keto flu. Nice. I started because of weight loss but I didnt even notice the other benefits.

-my hand tremors disappeared (huge for surgery)
-longer focus, better concentration
-no hunger
-no craving
-no bloating
-mental health improvement
-weight loss (and it was pain free weight loss!)

Bad stuff:
-bowel movements only every 3-4 days?!
-High intensity exercise nearly impossible.

But I was in love. My gf started to cook only in Keto too. It was amazing. I sometimes had less than 15g in carbs a day. Maxed on 4.5+ on the Ketone blood meter before experiencing side effects.

Then we had pizza and ice cream once. First time it tasted better than ever before. I think I got a bit manic? The effect didn't last for the second cheat day. Gf left for a few weeks so I'm eating normal foods again. Feeling sick eating bread and carbs every day. Stomach has problems digesting bread and bloats like never before. Its 4 weeks in and it doesn't seem to get better. Maybe this is how I felt before.

 

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[Kak]

@Darius How do you cook the liver? I want to try it.

Also, Does anyone use MCT oil? Thoughts?

 

[Darius]

Keto & I are in a really complicated relationship now. Surprising how easy it was actually for me to get into her. 3 days in and I measured +2.1 on the Keto blood meter. Full swing Ketosis with no Keto flu. Nice. I started because of weight loss but I didnt even notice the other benefits.

-my hand tremors disappeared (huge for surgery)
-longer focus, better concentration
-no hunger
-no craving
-no bloating
-mental health improvement
-weight loss (and it was pain free weight loss!)

Bad stuff:
-bowel movements only every 3-4 days?!
-High intensity exercise nearly impossible.

But I was in love. My gf started to cook only in Keto too. It was amazing. I sometimes had less than 15g in carbs a day. Maxed on 4.5+ on the Ketone blood meter before experiencing side effects.

Then we had pizza and ice cream once. First time it tasted better than ever before. I think I got a bit manic? The effect didn't last for the second cheat day. Gf left for a few weeks so I'm eating normal foods again. Feeling sick eating bread and carbs every day. Stomach has problems digesting bread and bloats like never before. Its 4 weeks in and it doesn't seem to get better. Maybe this is how I felt before.

4 weeks since eating a standard american diet and your body hasn't normalized?

 

[Darius]

@Darius How do you cook the liver? I want to try it.

Also, Does anyone use MCT oil? Thoughts?

So, I've tried liver raw, pan seared (like a medium-rare steak) in butter, sauted in butter (fully cooked), and roasted.

The best tasting to me was when I cut the liver up into bite sized pieces and then sauted it in butter. I've got braces and chewing gets annoying so the smaller the pieces, the more enjoyable the meal. Separate the the liver into small batches and cook it different ways if the sauted method doesn't sit well with you.

If you do try liver, make sure it's from a pasture raised animal that's fed its natural diet (grass for beef / bugs, grains, meat for chickens / etc.). The taste is completely different when compared to your typical factory farmed animal and a pasture-raised animal fed its natural diet is more likely to be a healthier animal (meaning better vitamin content, more omega 3s, less chance of toxins).

You can usually buy it locally for cheap (since most people don't buy it) - but if you can't find it or don't want to go through the hassle just to try it, you can get it shipped from this place (or any farm that'll ship, this is the only one I've tried before buying locally): White Oak Pastures Since 1866, Grassfed Beef and Pastured Poultry

It's not cheap, but you can figure out a cheaper alternative if you like it.

As far as MCT oil, I don't use it. I've seen anecdotal evidence that may deem it useful as a pre-workout or for a burst of energy.

I get fairly cautious when humans start isolating compounds due to its perceived benefit. I haven't researched MCT oil or the methods/chemicals used to extract it, but problems tend to arise when humans start thinking they've identified this 'amazing' compound and begin to isolate it.

A lot of people praise MCT oil because it raises ketone levels, gives a boost of energy, and they believe more ketones must be a good thing. I have no reason to believe more ketones is good. If anything, I'm inclined to believe the opposite. If more were good, our bodies would just make more. There's probably a reason why our ketone levels decrease with time or why breastfed babies are typically in a mild state of ketosis.

I wouldn't be surprised if too many ketones in the body for too long have bad side effects - especially if your body isn't the one regulating it.

That's just my thoughts. Until we have long-term, unbiased studies (if that even exist) regarding ketone levels and optimal health - i'm just speculating.

 

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[Lionhearted]

@Darius How do you cook the liver? I want to try it.

Also, Does anyone use MCT oil? Thoughts?

Don't know about liver but MCT is great in a Keto coffee and if you ever screw up and eat too many carbs it will help get you back into Keto quickly. All the best.

 

[Lionhearted]

Keto & I are in a really complicated relationship now. Surprising how easy it was actually for me to get into her. 3 days in and I measured +2.1 on the Keto blood meter. Full swing Ketosis with no Keto flu. Nice. I started because of weight loss but I didnt even notice the other benefits.

-my hand tremors disappeared (huge for surgery)
-longer focus, better concentration
-no hunger
-no craving
-no bloating
-mental health improvement
-weight loss (and it was pain free weight loss!)

Bad stuff:
-bowel movements only every 3-4 days?!
-High intensity exercise nearly impossible.

But I was in love. My gf started to cook only in Keto too. It was amazing. I sometimes had less than 15g in carbs a day. Maxed on 4.5+ on the Ketone blood meter before experiencing side effects.

Then we had pizza and ice cream once. First time it tasted better than ever before. I think I got a bit manic? The effect didn't last for the second cheat day. Gf left for a few weeks so I'm eating normal foods again. Feeling sick eating bread and carbs every day. Stomach has problems digesting bread and bloats like never before. Its 4 weeks in and it doesn't seem to get better. Maybe this is how I felt before.

The Standard American Diet is toxic and deadly. Your body is talking to you and yes it is how you felt before. The difference is now you know what it feels like not to eat it. Before Keto all you knew was the S.A.D and your body adapted as well as it could to it and normalized the (sick) feeling as "normal". It's amazing to me how sweet the stuff I used to like is when I sample it now. I refuse to ever put into my body again products (I don't call it food) I know are toxic to my body. Knowing they are poison takes any temptation away from me to want to eat them. Health is crucial to my overall success and I am not sacrificing it as it is the lynch pin of everything else. What would I trade my health for? Nothing.

 

[The Abundant Man]

I should go back to Korea. Average lifespan is in the high 80s. Korean BBQ with their meat and vegetable dishes and rice. Busan has some of the best seafood. Calguksu has these thick long noodles with clams and oysters. Their large popcorn is equivalent to a small.

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[ShamanKing]

It was the first Monday of February 2016. I was at work scanning through random videos when I came upon "Chris Jones and Goody Beats". Logan shared his experience with the Keto Diet and the sustainability of it. Peeked my interest so after work I shopped at Smart and Final for "KETO" foods. Coming from a culture that consumes rice 3-5x a day, surprisingly I was able to stop myself (Cold Turkey). For the next 6 months I dropped an average of 3lbs per week. I weighed myself every Sunday (naked and after using the bathroom). Everything went well, most effective life style I went through. Results: 270 - 239lbs best. Now I'm steady at 240. Keep in mind I was only exercising 2x sometimes 3x a week.

That same summer I went camping (Vegas didnt help either).....Drank 6 sodas in one day. Consumed all kind of junk. Surprisingly I only gained 6lbs when I returned from camp. But that wasn't the consequence. I started consuming carbs again. From there on I am back and forth with Keto till this day. The problem now is not junk food, soda, and sugary snacks but when I dine out I eat carbs liek a mofo. My fire or WHY has been lost. I feel like with all the compliments and praising I received during my weight loss journey, it made me think oh I am good now. People seen me lose weight and thats all that matters. I dont have to be strict and can eat what I want. Coincidentally, I am reading Unscripted atm and just passed where MJD talks about complimenting mediocre and how it impacts the future.

Future and Currently: I plan on sticking with the Keto lifestyle until I reach 190s. Then I will transition to including healthy carbs into by diet but keeping it at a certain level. Why? Seeing the foods I eat I dont think it will be healthy when Im older (Not a Doctor but thats just my opinion).

Side-Effects: I find it hard to wake up. Like VERY Fu***** Hard. I have 2 alarms and my phone starts at 5:00am. It wakes me up enough to turn everything off and fall back asleep. (will be including a controlled amount of carbs at dinner).
Another side-effect is eating out with loved ones. WOW just like MJ's example when you order a salad and everyone gets a beer, burgers and fries. You are the different one. I reject dinning out unless its a location where I can work with the menu. Ex) Korean BBQ, Mexican Restaurant, and Applebees etc...

WHY(s):
1. I want to be able to look great in clothing and have a easy time shopping for them. Specifically suits. being obese since childhood, I struggled with clothing and leads to insecurities and bullying.
2. Longevity. I dont want die due to obesity or cardiovascular disease. If its cause by things I cant control fine but I will do whats required on my end. If I hold my end, my body will hold the other (hopefully). Also seeing the elder community around me, everyone walks with their belly leading them. I do not want to be part of EVERYONE (and thats financially, physically, emotionally, you name it)!
3. Confidence and achieving goals. I view it this way. If I cant even stick to a diet and reach my goal, how will I ever succeed in the fast lane. Forgot if I read it in TMF or Unscripted or another book, but the link from keeping your promises to yourself and reaching your goals builds your spirit and self confidence. (Forgive me)




Thanks for reading!.

 

[The Abundant Man]

What about Asian cultures that eat lots of rice and noodles yet they're still among the longest living people on this planet

 

[ShamanKing]

What about Asian cultures that eat lots of rice and noodles yet they're still among the longest living people on this planet

Lets leave that to the specialists.

 

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[The Abundant Man]

Lets leave that to the specialists.

I listen to Ultimate Health Podcast and all these specialists come on there and I hear all kinds of contradictions when it comes to nutrition. One says ,"No grains." One says, "Meat is bad is founded on bad science and government told us that" One says, "Plants hate humans. They give us disease to defend themselves" One says, "Keto cures cancer based on my studies" "Check T3/T4 levels for Thyroid. It cured everything." All kinds of contradictions...

 

[ShamanKing]

I listen to Ultimate Health Podcast and all these specialists come on there and I hear all kinds of contradictions when it comes to nutrition. One says ,"No grains." One says, "Meat is bad is founded on bad science and government told us that" One says, "Plants hate humans. They give us disease to defend themselves" One says, "Keto cures cancer based on my studies" "Check T3/T4 levels for Thyroid. It cured everything." All kinds of contradictions...

I agree with what you said. At first I didnt even look into the side effects of keto. But as I dig in there are many coaches, doctors, nutritionist, and etc who supports Keto and disagrees with Keto.

 

[struka]

Any of you especially with the carnivore diet have issue with gout?

 

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[Darius]

What about Asian cultures that eat lots of rice and noodles yet they're still among the longest living people on this planet

A big percentage of Asians are diabetics as well (I think the % was slightly under Americans despite having a massive difference in obesity rates). They store a lot of visceral fat (fat around the organs) compared to subcutaneous fat (fat directly under skin).

A few things to consider when talking about their lifespan:

1. Genetics. They tend to live longer than Americans in both Asian countries and USA. I can't find data that separates by diet but it would interesting to see.
2. Overall average size. The average height for Asians is pretty low compared to America. Smaller size = fewer calories needed overall. Fewer calories = longer lifespan (The fewer calories = longer lifespan study was done on rats if I remember correctly. This doesn't mean it correlates to humans but it's a good starting point)
3. They're more active.

Overall, I don't have the answer. I do think there's more at play than Asians live longer & Asians eat rice, so rice = good.

 

[Darius]

I listen to Ultimate Health Podcast and all these specialists come on there and I hear all kinds of contradictions when it comes to nutrition. One says ,"No grains." One says, "Meat is bad is founded on bad science and government told us that" One says, "Plants hate humans. They give us disease to defend themselves" One says, "Keto cures cancer based on my studies" "Check T3/T4 levels for Thyroid. It cured everything." All kinds of contradictions...

I agree that there's so many contradictions. Everybody has an agenda.

Even some of the best non-biased scientist are going to be biased.

As soon as they go public recommending a diet or WOE based on their research, anything that contradicts that is threatening their work.

Now, you might say, why can't they just admit when they're wrong?

Well, the problem I see with nutrition is that we're missing so many variables about the human body that you can damn near prove that anything is bad/good for you.

 

[Darius]

Any of you especially with the carnivore diet have issue with gout?

Not I.

I'd imagine that the beginning phase of carnviore (or keto) would cause uric acid levels to rise (making gout happen/worsen) as you inefficiently use ketones for energy (I haven't seen any studies on this but switching diet drastically seems like it could cause inflammation)

Carnivore should lower inflammation over time making it useful to control gout (but first you've got to avoid flare-ups during the initial phase - I haven't done enough research to know how to do that).

Keto could lower uric acid over time but you'd have to avoid fructose. If I remember correctly fructose depletes phosphate which causes a lot of uric acid to build up.

 

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[struka]

Not I.

I'd imagine that the beginning phase of carnviore (or keto) would cause uric acid levels to rise (making gout happen/worsen) as you inefficiently use ketones for energy (I haven't seen any studies on this but switching diet drastically seems like it could cause inflammation)

Carnivore should lower inflammation over time making it useful to control gout (but first you've got to avoid flare-ups during the initial phase - I haven't done enough research to know how to do that).

Keto could lower uric acid over time but you'd have to avoid fructose. If I remember correctly fructose depletes phosphate which causes a lot of uric acid to build up.

Got ya. Maybe doing both keto and carnivore works but I know few people that have been only on the carnivore diet and have gotten gout.

 

[Darius]

Here's an example of a vitamin dense breakfast: Butter cheese eggs & liver.

I notice every time I eat liver it starts tasting better and better. At first I thought it was due to me switching up the cooking methods, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I've been eating it the same way for the past 3 weeks and it keeps tasting better. I can speculate as to why I think this may be.



Eggs & Liver have every fat-soluble vitamin -
Beef, variety meats and by-products, liver, cooked, pan-fried Nutrition Facts & Calories
Egg, whole, cooked, scrambled Nutrition Facts & Calories

I don't know if those vitamin profiles were taken from factory farmed animals or pasture-raised but regardless, it's high.

 

[Darius]

Got ya. Maybe doing both keto and carnivore works but I know few people that have been only on the carnivore diet and have gotten gout.

I've seen enough YouTube videos of people talking about getting gout from carnivore that I believe it. I don't know how it happens ( I don't think anyone does), but it's happening to some people.

 

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[ShamanKing]

Any of you especially with the carnivore diet have issue with gout?

My father and a buddy of mine both suffers from gout. Things they have in common are:
- Race
- Gender
- Diet: Red meat, intestines including things like liver, tripe, other inside parts of a animal, Raw Beef, & lack of veggies
- Liquids: Excessive alcohol (Beer in this case), water level is poor, other sugary drinks
- Physical Activity: Lack of exercise

Overall I think controlling diet and physical activity helps but then again there are probably others out there who does everything perfectly but still has gout.

 

[Nomadic]

Awesome write up man. I have yet to try keto but this post might be the final little pusher I needed to get it started.

 

[El Príncipe]

Very interesting thread.

Been carnivore for about three weeks now. Before that I was vegan for a bit over half a year. Towards the end of it my body started telling me I needed meat. Meat being grilled started smelling really, really good.

I switched over pretty drastically. Maybe a week and a half of keto in between.

Health is the primary reason for all of this. Got psoriasis 3 years ago. At the start of this year it became apparent it wouldn't just pass over, a pro-active approach was needed. Knew it had something to do with diet/nutrition. Noticed it cured almost entirely after a 5 day fast.

Then found Rob Stuart's YT channel. Got into vegan/plant based eating. It helped some. Especially early on I felt great. Got into juicing, raw vegan, water/dry fasting. All of it helped some. But after 2 months my skin just plateau'd, and everything else got slowly worse without me realizing.

I started staying in more, napping in the afternoon, being less interested in chicks. I attributed it all of it to "getting older and wiser", bad work/life balance, being away from family.

Then I started eating meat again and my energies have been through the roof. It's insane. I've had days where I felt high. I could just keep going and going. Super productive.

There have been some transition symptoms too though. And it seems like I've become even more sensitive to certain foods than before. Pretty drastic stuff affecting my energy and mood in major ways.

We attribute a lot to our personalities. We rationalize a lot. Also because we don't know how different it could really be if we'd change the right things.

Right now I'm cutting out dark chocolate (my cheat snack, hard to let go of lol) and going to a zero tolerance policy on "cheating", since I've noticed small quantities of grains and sugar can have huge effects. Been incorporating bone broth, liver and hearts from the start and looking to add in brain and fish roe (eggs). Other than that eating a wide variety of pork, beef, chicken, rabbit, duck, goose. Experimenting and learning a lot still.

I've had bad experiences with dairy, but I'm curious to see my reaction to raw milk and raw cheese, as there is a possibility that lactose intolerance might in fact just be an intolerance to the methods of processing like pasteurizing and the resulting manufactured products.

So yeah, interesting journey. Feeling a lot better. And looking it too, was starting to look emaciated, you know the typical, skinny vegan guy. Whereas I had always been into strength, masculinity, mma, sports, etc. Now I'm finally filling up again. Finally strength to work out again, recovery is super quick, injuries that were at a standstill are finally healing.

Just so many positive results. Psoriasis... Honestly, too early to tell, too many confounding factors (cheating a lot, and hard to tell the magnitude of effects), overall seeing improvement I would say, but I don't want to make the mistake of letting hope lead me to read positive results into ambiguous data sort to speak.

Interested to see other's experiences with this!

 

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[Darius]

Very interesting thread.

Been carnivore for about three weeks now. Before that I was vegan for a bit over half a year. Towards the end of it my body started telling me I needed meat. Meat being grilled started smelling really, really good.

I switched over pretty drastically. Maybe a week and a half of keto in between.

Health is the primary reason for all of this. Got psoriasis 3 years ago. At the start of this year it became apparent it wouldn't just pass over, a pro-active approach was needed. Knew it had something to do with diet/nutrition. Noticed it cured almost entirely after a 5 day fast.

Then found Rob Stuart's YT channel. Got into vegan/plant based eating. It helped some. Especially early on I felt great. Got into juicing, raw vegan, water/dry fasting. All of it helped some. But after 2 months my skin just plateau'd, and everything else got slowly worse without me realizing.

I started staying in more, napping in the afternoon, being less interested in chicks. I attributed it all of it to "getting older and wiser", bad work/life balance, being away from family.

Then I started eating meat again and my energies have been through the roof. It's insane. I've had days where I felt high. I could just keep going and going. Super productive.

There have been some transition symptoms too though. And it seems like I've become even more sensitive to certain foods than before. Pretty drastic stuff affecting my energy and mood in major ways.

We attribute a lot to our personalities. We rationalize a lot. Also because we don't know how different it could really be if we'd change the right things.

Right now I'm cutting out dark chocolate (my cheat snack, hard to let go of lol) and going to a zero tolerance policy on "cheating", since I've noticed small quantities of grains and sugar can have huge effects. Been incorporating bone broth, liver and hearts from the start and looking to add in brain and fish roe (eggs). Other than that eating a wide variety of pork, beef, chicken, rabbit, duck, goose. Experimenting and learning a lot still.

I've had bad experiences with dairy, but I'm curious to see my reaction to raw milk and raw cheese, as there is a possibility that lactose intolerance might in fact just be an intolerance to the methods of processing like pasteurizing and the resulting manufactured products.

So yeah, interesting journey. Feeling a lot better. And looking it too, was starting to look emaciated, you know the typical, skinny vegan guy. Whereas I had always been into strength, masculinity, mma, sports, etc. Now I'm finally filling up again. Finally strength to work out again, recovery is super quick, injuries that were at a standstill are finally healing.

Just so many positive results. Psoriasis... Honestly, too early to tell, too many confounding factors (cheating a lot, and hard to tell the magnitude of effects), overall seeing improvement I would say, but I don't want to make the mistake of letting hope lead me to read positive results into ambiguous data sort to speak.

Interested to see other's experiences with this!

Happy to hear you're getting some benefits! Keep me updated on how it goes.

Thankfully, I haven't had any bad reactions to dairy. I haven't tried raw milk but I have had 'raw' cheese.

The raw cheese I had was from Whole Foods and I think due to how they process 'raw' foods sold in supermarkets - it's like a less pasteurized version, but still pasteurized.

 

[El Príncipe]

Happy to hear you're getting some benefits! Keep me updated on how it goes.

Thankfully, I haven't had any bad reactions to dairy. I haven't tried raw milk but I have had 'raw' cheese.

The raw cheese I had was from Whole Foods and I think due to how they process 'raw' foods sold in supermarkets - it's like a less pasteurized version, but still pasteurized.

Yeah, here in the Netherlands supermarkets aren't allowed to sell non-pasteurized milk and cheese. Something to do with a tuberculosis epidemic amongst cows in the 1950's. Maybe that affected the US as well?

You can still get it raw if you get it straight from farmers, but they're obligated to tell you to heat it before consuming, lol, effectively killing all the nutrients that make it beneficial over store-bought of course.

I'm curious about anything pertaining mood; Have you experienced any changes in feeling/temperament/emotions?

 

[Darius]

Yeah, here in the Netherlands supermarkets aren't allowed to sell non-pasteurized milk and cheese. Something to do with a tuberculosis epidemic amongst cows in the 1950's. Maybe that affected the US as well?

You can still get it raw if you get it straight from farmers, but they're obligated to tell you to heat it before consuming, lol, effectively killing all the nutrients that make it beneficial over store-bought of course.

I'm curious about anything pertaining mood; Have you experienced any changes in feeling/temperament/emotions?

Mood has been better for sure but not like I'm a completely different person. I mainly think it's due to being able to sleep better (I can sleep with my mouth closed and breathe out my nose now) and not being so hungry.

I can focus more when I don't eat.

 

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[El Príncipe]

Mood has been better for sure but not like I'm a completely different person. I mainly think it's due to being able to sleep better (I can sleep with my mouth closed and breathe out my nose now) and not being so hungry.

I can focus more when I don't eat.

Yeah I get that too. Supposedly, 60% of body energy expenditure goes to digestion. So I try eating at the end of the day once everything for the day is done. Never have breakfast.

 

[struka]

I've had bad experiences with dairy, but I'm curious to see my reaction to raw milk and raw cheese, as there is a possibility that lactose intolerance might in fact just be an intolerance to the methods of processing like pasteurizing and the resulting manufactured products.

Did you have issues with dairy before you went vegan? A lot of people that stop eating dairy have issues once they start eating dairy again because a certain enzyme is turned off during that time. Some have diarrhea, stomach pains and bloating. My mother had that once she went vegan and then tried to drink coffee with milk.

You won't be able to buy raw milk at the store so you would need to try your local farmers.

 

[El Príncipe]

Did you have issues with dairy before you went vegan? A lot of people that stop eating dairy have issues once they start eating dairy again because a certain enzyme is turned off during that time. Some have diarrhea, stomach pains and bloating. My mother had that once she went vegan and then tried to drink coffee with milk.

You won't be able to buy raw milk at the store so you would need to try your local farmers.

After being vegan it indeed did seem to have gotten more pronounced. I ate a chunk of cheese (about 100g) and noticed the onset of a cold/flu almost instantly. But I've had that happen to me once before with milk, before going vegan. Still, it's hard to say. I cut out dairy for a time when I went paleo for about a year around 2012 and felt better. Since then I've had an off feeling about dairy.

Was your mother able to drink milk again eventually?

YouTuber sv3ridge (weird guy, but it's often people like him that charter new territory, because they're so extremely openminded and outside of social norms) said he became tolerant to raw milk at some point, by starting with just a teaspoon of it together with some raw meat and building it up, theorizing that the enzymes in the meat kickstarted the processing of the milk. Here's the video:

View: https://youtu.be/85b3PJKEMgA?t=478


Yeah, I'm gonna try raw milk at a farmer at some point.

 

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[Darius]

YouTuber sv3ridge (weird guy, but it's often people like him that charter new territory, because they're so extremely openminded and outside of social norms) said he became tolerant to raw milk at some point, by starting with just a teaspoon of it together with some raw meat and building it up, theorizing that the enzymes in the meat kickstarted the processing of the milk.

I don't know about enzymes in meat kickstarting the processing of milk, but it's probably a good idea to re-introduce foods (or any foods you've never tried or purchased from an unfamiliar source) in small portions and slowly up the amount you eat over the course of a few weeks.

That should help build up the microbiome and enzymes needed to process that specific food (or the bacteria in the food).

You've got me wondering if I'll have problems drinking milk again If I ever re-introduce it (I don't even remember what it taste like anymore)

 

[CPisHere]

Carnivore diet is legit. I haven't cut all carbs yet, but have started making Steak my primary source of calories, no longer force myself to eat veggies/fruit, and feel much better.

Eating strictly nothing but steak and eggs isn't completely necessary, but learning about Carnivore Diet was a big paradigm shift for me about what food is actually nutritious.

I respect anyone's right to be vegan, so long as they respect my right not to be. Industrial agriculture is a real problem, but I don't think it's specific to the meat industry - cows specifically are much less of an issue as they pretty much have to be on a pasture, unlike chickens.