Anyone else notice that McDonalds is making a *killing* lately?

[jon.M]

Subway always has that strong plastic-ish smell in their food. Can smell from tens of feet away. I doubt Subway is as healthy as they claim to be.

I've always laughed when people talk about Subway like it's a healthy fast food option. Let's deconstruct a sandwich. It's got lots of bread. Some kind of meat or vegan patty. Sauce. Some veggies.

How's that ANY different from a burger?

"No, it's in a sandwich format so it's really wholesome"

 

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[Real Deal Denver]

Warren Buffett is notorious for eating McDonalds every single day, washed down with multiple regular cokes. A man who has money to eat whatever he wants chooses McD's. But he probably receives some kind of alien blood transfusion every week so it's unrealistic to compare his diet choices to that of mere mortals.

You are right. I watched a documentary on Buffet and lost a lot of respect for him. His office is a 5 minute drive from his home, and there is a McDonalds on the way. He stops and gets a breakfast sandwich which costs him $1.61. He always has the exact change and goes through the drive-thru. He has three things he orders, depending on whether he has done well in the markets, which determines how much he will "splurge." I only remember the $1.61 one, which was the lowest priced option of the three.

Here is a near genius that could and SHOULD have his own chef making him healthy food, but he has this mental block that prevents him from thinking at that level for some unknown reason. It is a common thread in history for the super rich to turn into fanatical misers, actually. I've also known a few people that went through the depression in the 30's that were that way too. They saved the slivers of soap left from their bars of soap and made new bars from them. Amazing how they would think.

Anyway, this entire show was a waste of time to learn anything of any value. I did get a glimpse into his family life, as they also talked with his adult children. Equally unenlightened fare.

He is a VERY frustrating man to listen to. He stammers a lot and rarely says much of value. He uses a lot of cliches and idioms. He is extremely predictable. But what do I know? Maybe simple is good? Nobody can fault his success, that's for sure. He reads financial news 4-6 hours every day. After watching this show, I now think of him more like rain man. He is extremely focused on business statistics and analysis, almost to a fanatical level. That may be good - but I could not carry on a meaningful conversation with him. His kids all said that too.

By contrast, EVERYTHING I've ever seen on Jobs, Gates, Dell, Musk, has been fascinating. It's not that I'm critical or hard to please ~

 

[DennisD]

I'm convinced that these companies live and die by peripheral zeitgeist.

Malcolm Gladwell has a fantastic talk about the cultural rise and fall of wonderbread. When it first came out it represented consistent sanitation in a world where local bakers used poisonous fillers within their bread to save $.

Decades later, it transformed into an incarnation of 'the man'. White, bland, boring, safe. Hipsters shun wonderbread in favor of artisanal choices that support local business.

Same product. Different zeitgeist . Different interpretation.

I mean don’t get me wrong. I hate McDonalds as much as the next guy. Especially as a health nut. But that’s actually one of the funnier points. Everyone hates McDonalds.

I'm currently in Indonesia, and the culture here is SO VASTLY DIFFERENT than America. McDonalds here is 'hip'. Maybe 3-5% of the population has a McDonalds sticker on something they own. A laptop of motorbike helmet.

Can you imagine if one in 20 American cars had McDonalds bumper stickers?

In America the zeitgeist has been against McDonalds because of what they STOOD FOR. The anticorporate vibe, and the 'green eating' vibe coincided with the food-truck movement and the cooking shows for a distinctly anti-McDonald's culture.

We're in a new era.

An era where something cheap + easy + 'good enough' has renewed value in the face of our overcrowded overcomplicated alternatives. An era where it's brave to reject the PC notion that McDonald's is scum. An era where people are sick of hipsters judging them for making a sensible choice when money's tight.

 

[Chromozone]

I had a McDonald's experience earlier this week.

I got up at 6AM and since my schedule was so full I forgot to eat. I had to catch a train at 8PM for a sales meeting the following day and got to my destination at 11PM.

Let me tell you, when I saw those golden arches at the train station I was pretty damn happy! And the food really wasn't that bad either (I haven't had McDonalds in years...).

I can see why people like them. And the thing is that even if you don't really really like them, no one/very few people, really really hate them.

The other thing I noticed was that I could've eaten somewhere else - but I didn't know any of the local places. I didn't want to wake up with stomach acid or feeling unwell the next day. This made me think: That that's probably the reason tourists love McDonalds!

 

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[ChrisV]

Malcolm Gladwell has a fantastic talk about the cultural rise and fall of wonderbread. When it first came out it represented consistent sanitation in a world where local bakers used poisonous fillers within their bread to save $.

Awesome post.

I think part of it it also the management of companies. When companies come out they have a mission. They’re this cool new startup that wants to change the world. Then the sales guys take over. Or they go public and have to appease shareholders.

 

[ChrisV]

I’m not gonna lie though, I indulge in some McDonalds hate.

I think they’re immoral. I think they put profits before people. I think their actions have added to the obesity epidemic in the US. They specifically engineer unhealthy foods to be palatable, they sell french fries soaked in grease in boxes with toys and smiley faces written all over them, imagine if we market cigarettes like that? I think in 15 years McDonalds will be the new Marlboro. And granted people buy it, but people have evolved to love salt sugar and fat. They have no choice. They’re highly pleasurable to humans due to the scarcity of those 3 things in evolutionary times. But McDonalds is more than ready to capitalize on that fact. They’re not the only ones/ Coca-cola, Kellogs, Nabisco. And then even worse is the perpetuation of the notion that healthy foods are expensive? Yea, maybe if you go to Whole Foods. But you can get a pretty-good banana for 39 cents which is way cheaper than even the dollar menu. But they love this myth because it keeps people buying.

Again, I eat the food sometimes (totally love McFlurries!,) but I wish they would do more to help obesity and less to harm people.

 

[WJK]

Not everyone hates McDonald's. I actually think the food there is good, especially for the price. I can't think of another restaurant where I can go into in any city on the planet and come out with a burger that tastes the exact same. That's incredibly hard to do, practically impossible. A lot of people just want to hate McDonald's because it makes them feel superior.

It's the same with Budweiser. Most people have ZERO idea how hard it is to make a consistent taste with local ingredients. Water in Ohio tastes different to water in London which is different to the water in Delhi, yet Budweiser tastes the same everywhere, the same as McDonald's.

It's a great product, even if you don't like it. The taste is honestly good. People who disagree are either going in with pre-conceived notions or they are accustomed to buying better quality food. If there was a better product out there at the same price, it would get more attention (not necessarily win), but there isn't.

It's not just the burgers either, the drinks they sell are delicious. In Canada they took over the old Tim Hortons contract AFAIK. So their coffee is the old Tim's coffee, which most people prefer to their new one. As a result a huge amount of people have swapped from Tim's to McDonald's coffee and then for convenience, they get their breakfast there too etc etc.

When I travel to NYC or LA or Paris, I consistently eat McDonald's at least once. It's convenient, fast, tastes good and I know precisely what I'm going to get.

Many years ago, I was married to a man, Bob, who had worked for the Mc founder in his lab in Santa Barbara, CA. Bob worked on developing new food items, manufacturing systems, and the quality of their existing offerings. Bob was a "food technologist" with a long history in the food business -- so I know some of the inside operations of a lot of these food companies.

The way that they get that consistency is by using a commissary where the food is prepared and packaged for distribution. The food quality and handling are both very carefully controlled before it ever arrives at the individual stores. There's a whole bunch of different safeguards in place to prevent mishandling of the food. (It's like the way that the hamburger patties are flash frozen and then put into loose stacks with waxed paper between them. If they become the thawed anytime before they are cooked on the grills, the paper is designed to stick to the patties rendering them unusable.)

After being married to Bob for many years, I have great respect for the food industry in the USA. I have been in many of the production plants and helped set up many projects. The standards are very strict.

 

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[SEBASTlAN]

Is there any way to see if the Wendys ads are really hurting them?

 

[Real Deal Denver]

Malcolm Gladwell has a fantastic talk about the cultural rise and fall of wonderbread. When it first came out it represented consistent sanitation in a world where local bakers used poisonous fillers within their bread to save $.

WHAT? Poisonous? Can you give me some details on this? Stuff like THIS really pisses me off! I understand profits, but this crosses the line wayyyyyy too much.

But you can get a pretty-good banana for 39 cents which is way cheaper than even the dollar menu. But they love this myth because it keeps people buying.

Again, I eat the food sometimes (totally love McFlurries!,) but I wish they would do more to help obesity and less to harm people.

Do something for the good? Great point. But so damn sad that our lives are worth more to their bottom line than actually being worthwhile. We are only consumers, to be taken advantage of and fed the worst possible food. Poison even? Still need to know more about that...

By the way, my wife and I eat VERY healthy. You can make a McFlurrie/Blizzard using yogurt and honey (or stevia) as your main ingredients. I like to add cottage cheese to make it thicker. You can indulge AND eat healthy if you want to. Tons of information on the web for the taking.

After being married to Bob for many years, I have great respect for the food industry in the USA. I have been in many of the production plants and helped set up many projects. The standards are very strict.

Ugh. After the above commentary, I have to say I have even LESS respect for the food industry than I had before - and it was pretty low before. Poison? When I get the details of that I am going to be calling those idiots at the FDA to get some answers. We all know the food industry cares most about profits - but I didn't know it would go as far as actually poison to save money.

Bullets? Yeah, I have a thing for bullets. Put poison in my food and I'll put a bullet in between your head and your wallet - right where it hurts the most. Then see how much money does for ya. Some things are worth more than money. Health, for one. Happiness, for two. Goodness and mercy and contributing to the common good for three. Need more? How about poisoning the masses for a few bucks profit? Where does that rank on the list?

Wealth is like a disease too many times. It's a never ending cycle to get more more more. When it goes to the extreme of poisoning your customers in the name of profit...

Don't get me started...

 

[WJK]

WHAT? Poisonous? Can you give me some details on this? Stuff like THIS really pisses me off! I understand profits, but this crosses the line wayyyyyy too much.



Do something for the good? Great point. But so damn sad that our lives are worth more to their bottom line than actually being worthwhile. We are only consumers, to be taken advantage of and fed the worst possible food. Poison even? Still need to know more about that...

By the way, my wife and I eat VERY healthy. You can make a McFlurrie/Blizzard using yogurt and honey (or stevia) as your main ingredients. I like to add cottage cheese to make it thicker. You can indulge AND eat healthy if you want to. Tons of information on the web for the taking.



Ugh. After the above commentary, I have to say I have even LESS respect for the food industry than I had before - and it was pretty low before. Poison? When I get the details of that I am going to be calling those idiots at the FDA to get some answers. We all know the food industry cares most about profits - but I didn't know it would go as far as actually poison to save money.

Bullets? Yeah, I have a thing for bullets. Put poison in my food and I'll put a bullet in between your head and your wallet - right where it hurts the most. Then see how much money does for ya. Some things are worth more than money. Health, for one. Happiness, for two. Goodness and mercy and contributing to the common good for three. Need more? How about poisoning the masses for a few bucks profit? Where does that rank on the list?

Wealth is like a disease too many times. It's a never ending cycle to get more more more. When it goes to the extreme of poisoning your customers in the name of profit...

Don't get me started...

Considering the liability issues, I don't know of any manufactures in the USA that can get liability insurance when they knowingly use bad ingredients, bad manufacturing techniques or bad packaging/storage practices. Yes, in the past, before FDA, they could get away with a lot. Not now. One bad batch can bankrupt a company.

 

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[ChrisV]

Is there any way to see if the Wendys ads are really hurting them?

Sales data probably.

 

[LittleJohn]

I don’t know if it has to do with the new machines they started putting in:

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Or the other changes they made, but holy sh*t. I pass this place at 1AM and there are lines around the block.

McDonalds has always been killing it Im sure. Maybe If i looked at their financials recently maybe their slipping a little over the past 5 years. My gut says they might be along with millennials (consumer preference) want more quality and experience over shit. Look at Chic-fil-a...they give you a number and serve you. Their food is decent. Now the great McD's is rolling that out...Wendy's, "Quality is Our recipe". McDonalds has been shit forever. Their food literally goes through you. I know this because I am overweight and have frequented these guys way too much. Sad but true I know. At least Im not in denial.

Ive noticed they are re-branding of sorts or at least changed their marketing message and their meat. Their burgers do taste better now and they are promoting that. Its as if they finally gave up on the formula for 95% fake meat and switched to 55% real meat 45% fake shit.

Just my $.02 without spending too much time on this.

 

[WJK]

Sales data probably.

The "burger wars" between these chain food corporations have been going on for decades. It's always been back and forth and back and forth. All have looked at changing their menus to find a new direction to ensure their survival. They've all been considered to be outdated and down for the count several times. McDonald's current success internationally is a very interesting turn of events in these wars.

 

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[minivanman]

The grandson LOVES McDonald's so we eat there alot. We also eat at Sonic sometimes and I like the egg/sausage/biscuit from Jack In The Box. All our McDonald's are always packed. Taco Bell is next door and 1 car in the drive thru. There is only 1 thing I can eat from Taco Bell and that is the breakfast soft taco with egg/bacon/potato. They are great.... as for the rest of Taco Bell's food.... puke time! My friend owns 36 Burger Kings <<<<<<< his 1BK sprint car in the picture <<<<<<< and makes a killing up north.

When we travel, we try to eat at off the wall local places. Or if we go to New York or some place like that the little woman knows all the good places since she has been there several times..... but, we are not against eating at McDonald's if we travel. One thing about McDonald's is that you can go to any of them and get a shake for $3 or something like that. But, we go in to a 'specialty' store and pay $15 for a shake and it's usually NOT $12 better! I had a $16 ice cream cone in Miami that was crap! I would have preferred a $1 cone from McDonald's.

Yes, I am a junk food junkie, 53 years old, 0 health problems BP usually 127/81. BS usually 90-95. I haven't ran in several years but I'd have no problem running 1 mile atleast. I could ride a bike probably 8 hours before I would have to stop. I am living proof JUNK FOOD does a body good IF YOU LET IT!

 

[The Abundant Man]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1NnrXknRNg

 

[DennisD]

WHAT? Poisonous? Can you give me some details on this? Stuff like THIS really pisses me off! I understand profits, but this crosses the line wayyyyyy too much.

Before the government intervened in the 1950s, bread was sold by weight and nearly all bakers were mixing flour with sawdust as filler. This was something that's happened for hundreds of years.

This included sawdust from treated wood, which, of course, isn't exactly great for your health.

Because you couldn't TRUST your local baker, Wonderbread killed it. Every loaf was machine made, every loaf was exactly the same. People lined up around BLOCKS to get this stuff because they knew they could trust it.

"The biggest thing since sliced bread" refers specifically to wonderbread's debut.

 

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[The Abundant Man]

Maybe we should bring back the Muckrackers(Journalists against goverment corruption). Like how Upton Sinclair's The Jungle brought about change to the meat packing industry in the 1910's.

 

[LittleJohn]

Before the government intervened in the 1950s, bread was sold by weight and nearly all bakers were mixing flour with sawdust as filler. This was something that's happened for hundreds of years.

This included sawdust from treated wood, which, of course, isn't exactly great for your health.

Because you couldn't TRUST your local baker, Wonderbread killed it. Every loaf was machine made, every loaf was exactly the same. People lined up around BLOCKS to get this stuff because they knew they could trust it.

"The biggest thing since sliced bread" refers specifically to wonderbread's debut.

Wow - and to think its all 'Big Foods' fault..

 

[ChrisV]

Before the government intervened in the 1950s, bread was sold by weight and nearly all bakers were mixing flour with sawdust as filler. This was something that's happened for hundreds of years.

This is what kind of makes me mad about the ‘anti-government-intervention’ crowd. The government has to intervene sometimes becasue people F*cking suck.

 

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[ChrisV]

"The biggest thing since sliced bread" refers specifically to wonderbread's debut.

And that’s officially the coolest fact I’ve learned all week.

 

[eliquid]

Mcdonalds has some perks to Burger King and Wendy's and others that I can name that helps lead to them having more people come in the door.

1. Mcdonalds is one of the few chains where I live that is open 24 hours.
Want some grub at 3am? TacoBell and McDonalds is the only thing open. No BurgerKing, not Wendys, etc. Over time I end up spending more time at McDonalds early in the morning or late at night and that just builds my habit to going to McDonalds over others

2. For decades, McDonalds was the only place open for breakfast. I can remember getting breakfast my whole life at McDonalds. Other chains just recently ( relatively speaking ) started doing breakfast and many still don't.

3. Cheap. Growing up, TacoBell was the king of cheap... today I can get more food at McDonalds than i can at TacoBell.

4. Wifi - lots of places have them, but working on a laptop with free wifi at McDonalds feels different than at a Wendys or a In&Out burger. Especially at 1am.

5. Breakfast all day. Can't get that at others.

6. I kid you not, a Dr. Pepper at McDonalds taste so much better for $1 at McDonalds than anywhere else for more money. They have the lock down on this.

Im not a huge fan of McDonalds, but everything starts with a habit. Personally the reasons above have my whole life lead me going into a McDonalds more than any other burger chain and the habit is hard to break. I don't like the food that much ( I much rather eat Burger King or Wendys or healthy ), but that habit is hard to break.

I assume this habit is the same for others and thats part of the reason why Mcdonalds does better off, even though I like the food at other places better.
.

 

[Veloman]

While I haven't seen the big lines you speak of in Austin, I do like how they have updated the ambiance and technology in their locations. It seems they are trying to get the "higher end starbucks" demographic in there.

If only they started offering more healthy, real food options... About the only thing I buy there is the yogurt parfait or oatmeal maybe.

 

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[chimichangatime]

A few things... first, I don't eat at McDonald's because it's not my thing any more. I used to, decades ago, but I prefer to eat cheaply at home. I love me some potatoes, and the vegetable oil made their fries awful. Beef tallow is objectively the best fat for cooking fries (Homemade French Fries: Choosing an Oil | ThermoWorks, http://www.great-taste.net/tidbits-...ted-difference-beef-tallow-fries-came-winner/).

That said:
1. McDonald's patties are 100% beef. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/100-beef/ Where are you getting that they're chemicals? Just beef with salt and pepper.
2. Again, what chemicals? The fries are coated with beef flavoring because of the aforementioned removal of beef tallow for cooking, but otherwise are potatoes, oil, salt, and sugar (for browning).
3. I do like their chicken nuggets more than any other chicken nuggets. The "meat" inside is white meat and skin. The "chemicals" here are mostly in the breading. What's Really Inside McDonald's Chicken McNuggets? I use "chemicals" in quotes because it's silly. Sodium chloride is a chemical used in de-icing roads! Dihydrogen monoxide kills if taken orally in excess! We can play this silly game all day.
4. "Real food" and consistency is how they've been successful. Way more consistent than the competition, and they also own their supply chain! The cows, the potato farms, the chickens. Isn't that one of the premises of Unscripted ? Perhaps McDonald's embodies that more than people want to admit?
5. They almost always get the mix on the soda fountain right. I know someone that only gets Diet Coke at McDonald's because it's actually right, and fresh. I agree - it's good. And with $1 any size drinks, why not? I don't know what they do differently, but it works.
6. They let you order just the patties for cheap, so the keto/low-carb crowd has been really attracted to them. Plus, it's 100% beef, so that's great, too. A lot of beef on the cheap, and you don't have to guess, you just know. This is GREAT business sense - give the customers what they want (fill a need), and make it easy. Again, this is a key tenet of this forum.

In my town, there are 2 McDonald's restaurants that are rarely full. The Burger King in my town sucks, but the one in the next town over is consistently good - I think it's down to how much corporate influence there is and how much the franchisee cares (focus on value for the customer, right?!). The Taco Bell in my town ALWAYS has a drive-thru line around the corner, though. The KFC/A&W combo restaurant can vary a lot, depending on the batch of teenagers running it that day. We don't have a Wendy's since it went under during the housing crisis, but the next town has one and it's always full of elderly people (I don't know what it is, but they love them some Wendy's!). I prefer Carl's Jr., myself, because they grok how to do a lettuce wrapped burger, and I love the 1/2 lb patties - but this particular restaurant is miles above the others in the area (the manager is on top of things).

I've had McDonald's overseas, and it's different (but fun to have a beer at McDonald's). I've had McDonald's all across the country, and have had pizza, hot dogs, and other local and test market stuff. The best thing, though, is a McDonald's with a wall full of awards. I went to one of these in Upstate NY at 11pm and they actually dumped a load of fries in the trash and made new ones (back when it was beef tallow... I'm old). The cashier was super friendly. The food was fresh and delicious. I think it just depends on YOUR local McD's, frankly.

McDonald's does a lot of stuff espoused here. I'd be surprised if they WEREN'T a runaway success.

 

[ChrisV]

But, we go in to a 'specialty' store and pay $15 for a shake and it's usually NOT $12 better! I had a $16 ice cream cone in Miami that was crap! I would have preferred a $1 cone from McDonald's.

Well, McDonalds has some really smart ways of automating things. Some of the crap they do is genius. Take a McFlurry. I see them make those. most places would have their employees put the Ice Cream in, and measure just the right amount of Oreo. They have the little device that puts the exact right amount in automatically. Then the spoon acts as a stirrer. It’s an engineering masterpiece. Or the drink machines that automatically put 16 oz into the cup so the employee doesn’t have to stand there. And I’m sure smart little things like that are all the way down the supply chain. Then they design the food making devices in a way that even the most brainless person in the world can operate it, so they can hire people for $10/hr, rather than the artesian ice-cream-shake makers at high-end shops. What McDonalds does as far as productivity is brilliant. That should have lessons. I’ve honestly considered getting a job at McDonalds for a month just to study the brilliant way they save time to reverse engineer them. Would take a bit to get past the pride though lol. Maybe they’re hiring at corporate? lol.

 

[LittleJohn]

A few things... first, I don't eat at McDonald's because it's not my thing any more. I used to, decades ago, but I prefer to eat cheaply at home. I love me some potatoes, and the vegetable oil made their fries awful. Beef tallow is objectively the best fat for cooking fries (Homemade French Fries: Choosing an Oil | ThermoWorks, http://www.great-taste.net/tidbits-...ted-difference-beef-tallow-fries-came-winner/).

That said:
1. McDonald's patties are 100% beef. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/100-beef/ Where are you getting that they're chemicals? Just beef with salt and pepper.

4. "Real food" and consistency is how they've been successful. Way more consistent than the competition, and they also own their supply chain! The cows, the potato farms, the chickens. Isn't that one of the premises of Unscripted ? Perhaps McDonald's embodies that more than people want to admit?
5. They almost always get the mix on the soda fountain right. I know someone that only gets Diet Coke at McDonald's because it's actually right, and fresh. I agree - it's good. And with $1 any size drinks, why not? I don't know what they do differently, but it works.
6. They let you order just the patties for cheap, so the keto/low-carb crowd has been really attracted to them. Plus, it's 100% beef, so that's great, too. A lot of beef on the cheap, and you don't have to guess, you just know. This is GREAT business sense - give the customers what they want (fill a need), and make it easy. Again, this is a key tenet of this forum.

McDonald's does a lot of stuff espoused here. I'd be surprised if they WEREN'T a runaway success.

No fact checking here but if is all correct then, WOW. Your post makes good sense its just surprising that it goes against my old belief system that the meat is crap.

 

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[ChrisV]

They let you order just the patties for cheap, so the keto/low-carb crowd has been really attracted to them.

Really? You ask for just the patties and they give them to you?

The cashier was super friendly. The food was fresh and delicious. I think it just depends on YOUR local McD's, frankly.

The cashiers here are mostly immigrants, but I live in a really populated area.

But this is a really great post +rep

 

[ChrisV]

1. Mcdonalds is one of the few chains where I live that is open 24 hours.
Want some grub at 3am? TacoBell and McDonalds is the only thing open. No BurgerKing, not Wendys, etc. Over time I end up spending more time at McDonalds early in the morning or late at night and that just builds my habit to going to McDonalds over others

That’s how I started going lmao.. they’re the ones with WiFi that actually works constantly. Then I got hooked on their $1 drinks and McFlurries. Before that I was a total hater. I used to use Dunkin, but sometimes you can’t connect. Sometimes I use Starbucks, but then I always get suckered into buying $40 with the Triple Mocha Frappichinos. I used to go to the library for wifi, but then if i want a drink or something I’m screwed. So honestly McDonald’s reliable WiFi was the biggest thing to sell me.

But I guess all the things were talking about in this thread is what leads to their success.

 

[chimichangatime]

Really? You ask for just the patties and they give them to you?

Yup.
Zero Carb Ordering from McDonald's

YMMV, but more and more people are low carb and McD's accommodates. For ~$1/patty, hard to go wrong. The /r/keto subreddit has lots of stories of people doing this.

Just ask for a patty. You can also do this with eggs and sausage - just them, don't have to ask for the sandwich without a bun.

 

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[ChrisV]

Yup.
Zero Carb Ordering from McDonald's

YMMV, but more and more people are low carb and McD's accommodates. For ~$1/patty, hard to go wrong. The /r/keto subreddit has lots of stories of people doing this.

Just ask for a patty. You can also do this with eggs and sausage - just them, don't have to ask for the sandwich without a bun.

Oh okay.. well their cheeseburgers are $1, so it’s essentially a $1 cheeseburger without the bun, cheese, etc.

 

[chimichangatime]

Oh okay.. well their cheeseburgers are $1, so it’s essentially a $1 cheeseburger without the bun, cheese, etc.

You can do this with quarter pounders, too. People will do 4 patties for like $4-5, depending on location. Nice, cheap keto meal, and there's almost always a McD's in an airport. The eggs and sausage are a better deal because the round eggs are just eggs and nothing else.

But I digress. The point is to provide value to your customers!