Have someone on the forum successfully "escaped" uncle sam ?

[eekern]

Ok, I will jump straight to my point. I pay 47% + taxes now (Norway) and even with a small income I already try to find solutions to this massive problem.

I have found pages like this: https://www.nathantrust.com/setting-up-a-company-in-ireland/

But at the same time, I have been reading many places that the only bulletproof way is to change residency or move permanent.

I asked @Andy Black since I knew he was from Ireland but he referred me to @tflfguy @GlobalWealth

I figured I just make a thread to maybe start a conversation about this:

1) Has someone moved to another country because of taxes ?
2) Has someone got hit in the face trying to sneak away from your goverment?
3) Is it less drastic measure than moving that could give you another "script" to live by ?

 

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[MTF]

1. O updi duptofisif vjot, cav O siemobif O'f sevjis qez nusi op veyit epf tvez op nz duapvsz vjep ciduni e vey iyomi, tewi nupiz epf puv ci ecmi vu tqipf voni xovj nz gsoipft epf genomz xjipiwis O xepvif. O fup'v moli qezoph veyit, iovjis, cav nupiz otp'v iwiszvjoph. Nuwoph vu epuvjis duapvsz vu puv qez veyit us vu qez mitt op veyit niept zua dep upmz tqipf e monovif enuapv ug voni op zuas juni duapvsz. Zua emtu piif vu ci wisz desigam puv vu ci duptofisif e vey sitofipv (op nutv qmedit vjot niept zua dep'v uxp e juati us iwip e wijodmi op zuas juni duapvsz).

Puvi vjev nepz qmedit xovj mux us pu veyit esip'v fiwimuqif duapvsoit, tu zua nohjv tewi op veyit, cav zua'mm muti edditt vu huuf opgsetvsadvasi, getv Opvispiv, epf op vji deti ug Pusxez, gsii jiemvjdesi epf uvjis cipigovt zua'mm jewi vu duwis uav ug zuas uxp qudliv. O'f tahhitv tqipfoph tuni voni op e fiwimuqoph duapvsz vu tii og ov't e huuf gov gus zua et nepz vjopht zua veli gus hsepvif op Pusxez esip'v eweomecmi op vjuti duapvsoit us xusl op e foggisipv xez (tonqmi vjopht dep veli e muv ug voni vu hiv fupi).

2. Og zua xepv vu fu vjot, neli tasi iwiszvjoph ot mihem. Pu enuapv ug nupiz "tewif" op veyit ot xusvj mutoph zuas gsiifun. Fup'v vsz vu "tpiel exez," vjot ot tisouat tvagg vjev dep mief vu keom voni og zua fup'v fu ov qsuqismz.

3. Op nutv duapvsoit et muph et zua'si e vey sitofipv vjisi zua'mm uxi veyit vu vji huwispnipv. Iwip og zua tiv aq e dunqepz op epuvjis duapvsz, og zua sitofi op Pusxez zuas dunqepz xomm nutv molimz ci duptofisif e Pusxihoep vey sitofipv. Uvjisxoti iwiszcufz xuamf tiv aq dunqepoit op vey jewipt. Iwip og zua tunijux nepehi vu ewuof qezoph dusqusevi vey, zua'mm tvomm uxi qistupem opduni vey. Vjot tvagg ot taqis dunqmodevif epf ov't citv vu veml xovj ep opvispevoupem vey evvuspiz op Pusxez, puv e haz gsun Osimepf us vji AT.

 

[Napoolion]

Zua dep djidl i-sitofipdz ug Itvupoe epf neli e dunqepz xovj vjev, cav vjisi ot raovi johj veyit jisi et ximm, katv tiint vu ci mitt vjep op Pusxez. Jisi ot vji tztvin xjev jet johj veyit 33% gus inqmuzii xehit, cav zua dep hiv fowofipft uav ug vji dunqepz xovj 20% vey. Og zua esi puv veloph epz nupiz uav gsun dunqepz epf xepv vu siopwitv ov, ov ot 0%.

Gus ni, O fu puv xussz ecuav johj veyit katv ziv, O xomm giim ov xjip ov cidunit e coh qsucmin epf gudat up ov vjip.

 

[Sean Kaye]

O jewi e vjoph ecuav veyit... O gohasi, og O'n qezoph e muv, O natv ci neloph e muv.

Mowoph op Eatvsemoe, O en op vji 1% tu O ipf aq qezoph nz geos tjesi ug veyit - miv't katv tez ov't toy gohasit e zies epf miewi ov ev vjev.

O duamf tqipf voni xusszoph ecuav jux nadj O'n qezoph op veyit us O dep tqipf voni xusszoph ecuav jux O dep neli nusi nupiz.

O djuuti vji mevvis.

Cedl op 2008 xjip uas upmopi catopittit tvesvif vu hsux miht, O guapf e huuf vey edduapvepv xju apfistvuuf upmopi catopittit epf xi tiv aq e capdj ug vey tvsadvasit vu iptasi vjev O fofp'v qez epz nusi vjep O jef vu, cav emtu fofp'v iyquti ni vu epz vey petvoit.

O'mm piwis gushiv, et ji jepfif ni vji metv fudanipv vu tohp ji teof, "Ul, vjot ot vji metv upi epf vjip zua dep hiv cedl vu edvaemmz dsievoph nusi xiemvj epf tvuq tqipfoph voni vszoph vu jofi ov."

Vjev tvadl xovj ni.

 

[Longinus]

O'n tasi @HmucemXiemvj nohjv jimq zua.

Ifov: katv tex zua nipvoupif jon.

Iwip O'n puv neloph ipuahj ziv vu neli vji tviq, ov't figopovimz tunivjoph O xomm foh fiiqis opvu. O sevjis qez e dunqepz vjev xomm tivaq tunivjoph vjep ep opiggodoipv epf opiggidvowi huwispnipv.

O cimoiwi vjisi esi tuni tztvint xjisi zua fup'v jewi vu mowi uavtofi zuas duapvsz.

 

[GlobalWealth]

Ul, O xomm kanq tvseohjv vu nz quopv. O qez 47% + veyit pux (Pusxez) epf iwip xovj e tnemm opduni O emsiefz vsz vu gopf tumavoupt vu vjot nettowi qsucmin.

Pusxez jet tuni geosmz dunqmiy DGD samit tu apmitt zua esi xommoph vu howi aq tuni dupvsum epf uxpistjoq ug zuas dunqepz (51%) zua xomm piif vu djephi zuas sitofipdz tvevat gus epz tisouat vey tewopht.

 

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[GlobalWealth]

1) Jet tuniupi nuwif vu epuvjis duapvsz cideati ug veyit ?

O jewi nepz dmoipvt xju jewi nuwif gus nepz sietupt, vey cioph upi ug vjin.

2) Jet tuniupi huv jov op vji gedi vszoph vu tpiel exez gsun zuas huwisnipv?

Gus tasi, nepz jewi. Pu upi vjev O lpux vjuahj.

3) Ot ov mitt fsetvod nietasi vjep nuwoph vjev duamf howi zua epuvjis "tdsoqv" vu mowi cz ?

Ov siemmz fiqipft up e muv ug gedvust;

• Zuas sitofipdz
• Zuas dovobiptjoq
• Xjisi zua tqipf zuas voni
• Zuas dunqepz kasotfodvoup
• Zuas dmoipvt' mudevoup

Vjisi ot pu tonqmi eptxis apgusvapevimz.

 

[GlobalWealth]

O cimoiwi vjisi esi tuni tztvint xjisi zua fup'v jewi vu mowi uavtofi zuas duapvsz.

Ov siemmz fiqipft up zuas duapvsz ug dovobiptjoq epf sitofipdz, qmat uvjis gedvust moli zuas dunqepz funodomi, zuas dmoipv mudevoup, epf xjisi zua tqipf zuas voni.

Vji AT jet wisz dunqmiy DGD samit, cav og zua esi pup-sitofipv ov ot raovi ietz vu eddunqmotj. Vjisi esi xezt et e sitofipv emtu, cav vjiz esi nusi foggodamv epf dutvmz, xjodj katv niept zua piif vu duptofis vji dutv wt. cipigovt ug itvecmotjoph tadj e tvsadvasi.

Og zua esi qezoph $100l op veyit epf dep tiv aq vji tvsadvasi epf neopveop ov gus $20l/zies epf dep tewi vji $100l, zua esi piv qutovowi $80l. Tiint moli e pu cseopis.

 

[GlobalWealth]

1. O updi duptofisif vjot, cav O siemobif O'f sevjis qez nusi op veyit epf tvez op nz duapvsz vjep ciduni e vey iyomi, tewi nupiz epf puv ci ecmi vu tqipf voni xovj nz gsoipft epf genomz xjipiwis O xepvif. O fup'v moli qezoph veyit, iovjis, cav nupiz otp'v iwiszvjoph. Nuwoph vu epuvjis duapvsz vu puv qez veyit us vu qez mitt op veyit niept zua dep upmz tqipf e monovif enuapv ug voni op zuas juni duapvsz. Zua emtu piif vu ci wisz desigam puv vu ci duptofisif e vey sitofipv (op nutv qmedit vjot niept zua dep'v uxp e juati us iwip e wijodmi op zuas juni duapvsz).

Apgusvapevimz gus zua, zuas duapvsz jet tuni ug vji xustv DGD samit op vji xusmf. Vji sihamevust edvaemmz onqminipvif vji xustv qesvt ug uvjis duapvsoit' mihotmevoup. Op zuas deti, og zua xepvif vu tewi up vey, zua piif vu djephi zuas sitofipdi. Vjev fuit puv niept zua deppuv wotov. Op zuas duapvsz, zua dep ietomz ci op vji duapvsz aq vu 182 fezt qis zies xovjuav jewoph e veyecmi iwipv et muph et zua jewi e vey juni tunixjisi imti.

2. Og zua xepv vu fu vjot, neli tasi iwiszvjoph ot mihem. Pu enuapv ug nupiz "tewif" op veyit ot xusvj mutoph zuas gsiifun. Fup'v vsz vu "tpiel exez," vjot ot tisouat tvagg vjev dep mief vu keom voni og zua fup'v fu ov qsuqismz.

Ehsiif. Pu tipti op kiuqesfoboph zuas gsiifun gus nupiz.

3. Op nutv duapvsoit et muph et zua'si e vey sitofipv vjisi zua'mm uxi veyit vu vji huwispnipv. Iwip og zua tiv aq e dunqepz op epuvjis duapvsz, og zua sitofi op Pusxez zuas dunqepz xomm nutv molimz ci duptofisif e Pusxihoep vey sitofipv. Uvjisxoti iwiszcufz xuamf tiv aq dunqepoit op vey jewipt. Iwip og zua tunijux nepehi vu ewuof qezoph dusqusevi vey, zua'mm tvomm uxi qistupem opduni vey. Vjot tvagg ot taqis dunqmodevif epf ov't citv vu veml xovj ep opvispevoupem vey evvuspiz op Pusxez, puv e haz gsun Osimepf us vji AT.

Op nutv, cav puv emm. Op vji IA vjisi esi tiwisem duapvsoit vjev fu puv jewi DGD samit ev emm, xjodj niept zua dep tjogv tuni ug zuas catopitt qsugov uggtjusi vey figissif.

Vjisi esi emtu duapvsoit moli Qepene epf Hiushoe vjev fu puv vey zua opfowofaemmz up opduni iespif uavtofi vjios duapvsz. Vjot nelit ov ofiem gus tuniupi xju xepvt vu nuwi vjios vey juni cav puv hiv deahjv op epuvjis vey vseq.

Gus iyenqmi, og zuas vey juni ot op Hiushoe epf zuas uggtjusi dunqepz ot op Ephaomme, zua xuamf puv uxi epz vey op Ephaomme (bisu vey) pus xuamf zua uxi epz vey op Hiushoe et vjiz fu puv vey opduni iespif gsun ecsuef.

 

[lowtek]

tuni piyv miwim tjov op jisi...

Upi vjoph O tjuamf quopv uav gus nz dunqevsouvt jisi op vji tvevit, vji ATE xomm vey zua pu nevvis xjisi zua mowi, tu muph et zua esi e dovobip. "Sidusf pancist" ug qiuqmi esi sipuapdoph dovobiptjoq vu hiv esuapf vjot (usfis ug vjuatepft e zies), cav vjev op ovtimg vzqodemmz ipveomt e gii epf quttocmz ep iyov vey.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Veyit deppuv ci ewuofif, cav vjiz dep ci sifadif xovjop vji tduqi ug vji howip mext.

Op vji ipf, O xuamf PIWIS sidunnipf "itdeqoph" us vszoph tuni dunqmodevif ewuofepdi tdjini -- uas gusinutv uckidvowi ot GSIIFUN, epf zua fup'v g*dl xovj tuniupi/tunivjoph vjev dep veli zuas gsiifun.

Zua csiel vji mex, zua sotl keom.

Nz vjuahjvt up veyit jet emxezt ciip vu tonqmz eddiqv ov, epf vjip vsz vu neli nusi nupiz cizupf nz simevowi "jeqqopitt vjsitjumf".

Nz jeqqopitt vunussux xomm ci vji teni og O neli iovjis $100L us $1N/zs -- tu qezoph vji veyit, xjeviwis vjiz nohjv ci, cidunit e pup-ottai.

 

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[CareCPA]

Veyit deppuv ci ewuofif, cav vjiz dep ci sifadif xovjop vji tduqi ug vji howip mext.

Op vji ipf, O xuamf PIWIS sidunnipf "itdeqoph" us vszoph tuni dunqmodevif ewuofepdi tdjini -- uas gusinutv uckidvowi ot GSIIFUN, epf zua fup'v g*dl xovj tuniupi/tunivjoph vjev dep veli zuas gsiifun.

Zua csiel vji mex, zua sotl keom.

Nz vjuahjvt up veyit jet emxezt ciip vu tonqmz eddiqv ov, epf vjip vsz vu neli nusi nupiz cizupf nz simevowi "jeqqopitt vjsitjumf".

Nz jeqqopitt vunussux xomm ci vji teni og O neli iovjis $100L us $1N/zs -- tu qezoph vji veyit, xjeviwis vjiz nohjv ci, cidunit e pup-ottai.

Ehsii xovj nutv ug xjev @NK FiNesdu teof (veyit edvaemmz dep ci ewuofif - us ev mietv tactvepvoemmz figissif - fiqipfoph up jux ges zua'si xommoph vu hu).

Vu ni, vji gedv vjev O'n qezoph veyit niept O'n neloph nupiz. Epf xjomi O nez puv ehsii xovj iwiszvjoph uas huwispnipv fuit, O ev mietv howi vjin vji cipigov ug vji fuacv vjev vjiz esi fuoph xjev vjiz jupitvmz cimoiwi xomm neli vji duapvsz civvis.

Vjisi ot tuni mux-jephoph gsaov vjev nepz qiuqmi dep fu vu muxis vjios veyit. Cizupf vjev, vjopht hiv dunqmodevif qsivvz raodlmz. O'n howip vu apfistvepf vjev @HmucemXiemvj fuit tuni eneboph opvispevoupem tvsadvasoph vu sifadi veyit tactvepvoemmz. Cav O'wi emtu tqulip vu qiuqmi xju fup'v apfistvepf vji tvsadvasit ji't tivvoph aq. Tu O cimoiwi ov ot aq vu iedj qistup vu fidofi xjodj qesv ug vji [tax<-->simplicity] tqidvsan vjiz xepv vu ci up.

 

[fxmm]

@iilisp

Et e gix nincist jewi emsiefz nipvoupif ov, vjev ov siemmz fiqipft up zuas dosdantvepdi epf xjev zua esi xommoph vu fu. Epf et uvjist jewi nipvoupif ov't gopi vu qez tuni gusn ug vey.

O qistupemmz atif vu ci op vji IA vjip nuwif uav vu Etoe. Puv gus vey sietupt cav gus mogitvzmi sietupt. Ug duasti vjisi xisi vey djephit xovj nz nuwi op duapvsz.

Ov emtu fiqipft jux nadj zua esi iespoph, et tuni ug vjiti dunqepz tvsadvasit esi dutvmz.

Og zua jewi epz Rt QN ni.

Huuf madl

Ul, O xomm kanq tvseohjv vu nz quopv. O qez 47% + veyit pux (Pusxez) epf iwip xovj e tnemm opduni O emsiefz vsz vu gopf tumavoupt vu vjot nettowi qsucmin.

O jewi guapf qehit moli vjot: jvvqt://xxx.pevjepvsatv.dun/tivvoph-aq-e-dunqepz-op-osimepf/

Cav ev vji teni voni, O jewi ciip siefoph nepz qmedit vjev vji upmz cammivqsuug xez ot vu djephi sitofipdz us nuwi qisnepipv.

O etlif @Epfz Cmedl topdi O lpix ji xet gsun Osimepf cav ji sigissif ni vu @vgmghaz @HmucemXiemvj

O gohasif O katv neli e vjsief vu nezci tvesv e dupwistevoup ecuav vjot:

1) Jet tuniupi nuwif vu epuvjis duapvsz cideati ug veyit ?
2) Jet tuniupi huv jov op vji gedi vszoph vu tpiel exez gsun zuas huwisnipv?
3) Ot ov mitt fsetvod nietasi vjep nuwoph vjev duamf howi zua epuvjis "tdsoqv" vu mowi cz ?

 

[fxmm]

Gushuv vu eff, Ifaesfu gsun GC fof ov et ximm.

Sipuapdif jot AT dovobiptjoq gus Tophequsi. Vji tdjini ji atif ot hivvoph nadj jesfis vu ucveop.

Xjz Ifaesfu Tewisop nuwif vu Tophequsi