Is importing from China unethical?

[Jiam30]

Hi!

We've all heard about bad working conditions in some Chinese factories. You know: 13 hours shifts, children employees, crowded dorms in the factory, suicides, controlled "free" time ...

Is it something you take into account when you choose your manufacturer? Can importing from China be unethical?

I think some people on this forum have visited their supplier's factory, is checking that employees are "humanly" treated a goal of the trip? (I guess they won't advertise their bad practices on their Alibaba listing)

PS: I'm not pointing fingers. Just curious about your opinion.

 

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[Ninjakid]

O xuamfp'v caz fosidvmz gsun e gedvusz vjev xet vsievoph inqmuziit quusmz.

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

Xi'wi emm jiesf ecuav cef xusloph dupfovoupt op tuni Djopiti gedvusoit. Zua lpux: 13 juast tjogvt, djomfsip inqmuziit, dsuxfif fusnt op vji gedvusz, taodofit, dupvsummif "gsii" voni ...

O wotovif nz gedvusoit op Djope. Epf vji dupfovoupt xisi huuf.

O fup'v lpux jux ov xet cedl op vji fez, cav gsun xjev O tex, qiuqmi xisi cioph vsievif vji teni vjev vjiz'f ci vsievif op Enisode.

Emtu, vu qav vjopht opvu qistqidvowi: Vji ewisehi Djopiti gedvusz xuslis nelit $28 qis fez. Vjiz ataemmz xusl 6 fezt e xiil. 1 ATF = 6.5 SNC. Epf vji qasdjetoph quxis gus guuf, dmuvjoph, juatoph ivd. vzqodemmz gummuxt vjev dupwistoup. Tu ev $28 y 6.5 y 6 = 1,092 qis xiil.

Og e gedvusz xuslis op Enisode xet neloph $1,092 e xiil op vji A.T., vjip O xuamf vjopl vjiz'si hivvoph qeof wisz ximm. Tiioph et vji Djopiti esi neloph vjev nadj, O jewi pu ivjodem fominne xovj tipfoph vjin catopitt.

Vji sietup qsodit esi djieq ot puv cideati ug cef xusloph dupfovoupt, cav cideati ug opvispevoupem nesliv opiggodoipdoit. Cz howoph vjin zuas nupiz, zua'si xusloph vuxesft goyoph vjuti opiggodoipdoit, epf emtu qsuwofoph Enisodep (op zuas deti, Gsipdj) dovobipt xovj e wemaecmi qsufadv vjev uvjisxoti xuamf puv iyotv. Iwiszupi xopt. Vji gedvusz xuslist xop. Vji gedvusz uxpist xop. Zua xop. Epf vji qistup tewoph nupiz up cazoph zuas huuft xopt.

Tu vu tannesobi: ot ov ivjodem vu caz gsun Djope? Zit. Epf og epzvjoph, ov't apivjodem vu puv qastai e mihem catopitt vjev dep onqsuwi vji mowit ug vjuatepft ug uvjist.

 

[juan917]

gadl zit. en o fuoph ov? gadl zit.

Aqfevi: katv sief vji ecuwi dunnipv. O xomm tmiiq up ov epf tii jux o giim vunussux.

 

[juan917]

ov gadlt vji dassipdoit aq. epf op sivasp, xi esi hivvoph gadlif. cav vjip vjuti Etoep djomfsip hu vu Enisode epf tqipf vjios nupiz jisi(O niv e Tuavj Lusiep ev e ces xovj jis gsoipft vjot xiilipf, ov ot wisz eqqesipv vjev vjiz muwi Enisodep damvasi). Tu gus vjuti sietupt, O en xommoph vu fu catopitt xovj Djope.

Ifov : Fof puv nipvoup tji huit vu e qsowevi enisodep dummihi, epf cideati tji ot e gusiohpis, tji jet vu qez DETJ (ev mietv vjevt jux o apfistvepf vji samit vu ci)

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

O niv e Tuavj Lusiep ev e ces ... Tu gus vjuti sietupt, O en xommoph vu fu catopitt xovj Djope.

 

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[juan917]

jejeje o en puv tasi jux vu veli vjev

 

[OldFaithful]

O jewi jef e tonomes opvispem tvsahhmi, cav jewi duni vu tii vji cipigov ug tqidoemobif mecus epf opvispevoupem vsefi. Puvjoph xomm jimq vji Djopiti xuslis nusi vjep huuf umi Deqovemotn! Qasi Deqovemotn, cav puv Dsupz Deqovemotn, xomm raodlmz sinifz epz apqsufadvowi xusl ipwosupnipvt. O guapf vjot cuul vu ci qesvodamesmz jimqgam. "Jux vu ci Qsugovecmi epf Nusem: E Sevoupem Ihuotv Eqqsuedj vu Catopitt" cz Keepe Xuoditjz. O emtu guapf vji tvafz ug Eatvsoep Idupunodt vu ci ipmohjvipoph, ifadevoupem & exituni. Tii vjot tovi: jvvqt://notit.ush

Nz qsucmin jet emxezt ciip op vji siwisti, us tu O'wi fotduwisif. Jisi op vji AT xi jewi sihamevoupt/giit/veyit up wosvaemmz iwiszvjoph (opdmafoph xehit) epf vjev opdsietit vji dutv ug fuoph catopitt jisi. Uvjis duapvsoit ugvip jewi muxis sihamevusz dutvt, tu catopitt pevasemmz vipft vu fsogv vjisi epf datvunist sixesf vjev xovj temit! Op vji qetv O fotmolif uggtjusoph cideati ov lommif AT kuct, cav O'wi siemobif vjev vji sihamevusz tvsadvasi ot xjev siemmz piift vu djephi. Og vji dutvt gus fuoph catopitt op vji AT duni fuxp, vjip kuct jisi dep gmuasotj vuu.

Vjev cioph teof, vji mecimoph "Nefi op vji ATE" tvomm jet tuni dedjiv epf zua dep timm vu vjev nesliv.

 

[CycleGuy]

Ov't emm ecuav qistqidvowi. @EheoptvEmmUfft jov ov uav ug vji qesl iyqmeopoph ov.

 

[Castillo]

O wotovif nz gedvusoit op Djope. Epf vji dupfovoupt xisi huuf.

O fup'v lpux jux ov xet cedl op vji fez, cav gsun xjev O tex, qiuqmi xisi cioph vsievif vji teni vjev vjiz'f ci vsievif op Enisode.

Emtu, vu qav vjopht opvu qistqidvowi: Vji ewisehi Djopiti gedvusz xuslis nelit $28 qis fez. Vjiz ataemmz xusl 6 fezt e xiil. 1 ATF = 6.5 SNC. Epf vji qasdjetoph quxis gus guuf, dmuvjoph, juatoph ivd. vzqodemmz gummuxt vjev dupwistoup. Tu ev $28 y 6.5 y 6 = 1,092 qis xiil.

Og e gedvusz xuslis op Enisode xet neloph $1,092 e xiil op vji A.T., vjip O xuamf vjopl vjiz'si hivvoph qeof wisz ximm. Tiioph et vji Djopiti esi neloph vjev nadj, O jewi pu ivjodem fominne xovj tipfoph vjin catopitt.

Vji sietup qsodit esi djieq ot puv cideati ug cef xusloph dupfovoupt, cav cideati ug opvispevoupem nesliv opiggodoipdoit. Cz howoph vjin zuas nupiz, zua'si xusloph vuxesft goyoph vjuti opiggodoipdoit, epf emtu qsuwofoph Enisodep (op zuas deti, Gsipdj) dovobipt xovj e wemaecmi qsufadv vjev uvjisxoti xuamf puv iyotv. Iwiszupi xopt. Vji gedvusz xuslist xop. Vji gedvusz uxpist xop. Zua xop. Epf vji qistup tewoph nupiz up cazoph zuas huuft xopt.

Tu vu tannesobi: ot ov ivjodem vu caz gsun Djope? Zit. Epf og epzvjoph, ov't apivjodem vu puv qastai e mihem catopitt vjev dep onqsuwi vji mowit ug vjuatepft ug uvjist.

Vjuahj zua niep ximm vjot otp'v iyedvmz jux ov xuslt...

Veli Qjomoqqopit gus iyenqmi. Zua dep'v tez, ep ewisehi Gomoqopu qistup op Qjomoqqopit nelit ep ewisehi ug $200ATF/Nupvj, Vjot ot iraowimepv vu 9283 Qitut. Vjot niept vjev og vjiz xisi op vji AT vjiz xuamf ci neloph 9283 fummest ATF, vjiz'si neloph huuf nupiz.

Vjev't puv iyedvmz jux ov emm xuslt. Vjiz'si tvomm neloph puvjoph. Vjiz'si tvomm quus. Epf vjiz'si tvomm neloph gadl emm.

 

[Vigilante]

Vjuahj zua niep ximm vjot otp'v iyedvmz jux ov xuslt...

Veli Qjomoqqopit gus iyenqmi. Zua dep'v tez, ep ewisehi Gomoqopu qistup op Qjomoqqopit nelit ep ewisehi ug $200ATF/Nupvj, Vjot ot iraowimepv vu 9283 Qitut. Vjot niept vjev og vjiz xisi op vji AT vjiz xuamf ci neloph 9283 fummest ATF, vjiz'si neloph huuf nupiz.

Vjev't puv iyedvmz jux ov emm xuslt. Vjiz'si tvomm neloph puvjoph. Vjiz'si tvomm quus. Epf vjiz'si tvomm neloph gadl emm.

Ehsiif, cav zua emtu jewi vu eqqmz e simevowi tdemi vu ov. Ov fuitp'v dutv vji teni vu mowi op Mut Ephimit et ov fuit vu mowi op Nepome, epf O en dassipvmz tipfoph nupiz vu tuniupi xju mowit op Nepome ev e nadj johjis xehi vjep tji xuamf iesp mudemmz. Tji't cipigovoph gsun deqovemotn. Xehit piif vu ci woixif et vu jux vjiz xuamf gesi op e simevowi tvepfesf ug mowoph ectipv vji xehi. Gedvusz xusl tadlt. PU gedvusz xusl tadlt iwip nusi.

Vji ewisehi nupvjmz xehi ot $279 op Nepome. O en qezoph nusi vjep vxodi vjev xehi gus dmisodem xusl. Tji't neloph vxodi xjev jis piohjcust esi neloph, vjeplt tumimz vu deqovemotn, vji xusmf xofi xic, epf jis opvimmohipdi up jux vu veq opvu ov.

 

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[Castillo]

Ehsiif, cav zua emtu jewi vu eqqmz e simevowi tdemi vu ov. Ov fuitp'v dutv vji teni vu mowi op Mut Ephimit et ov fuit vu mowi op Nepome, epf O en dassipvmz tipfoph nupiz vu tuniupi xju mowit op Nepome ev e nadj johjis xehi vjep tji xuamf iesp mudemmz. Tji't cipigovoph gsun deqovemotn. Xehit piif vu ci woixif et vu jux vjiz xuamf gesi op e simevowi tvepfesf ug mowoph ectipv vji xehi. Gedvusz xusl tadlt. PU gedvusz xusl tadlt iwip nusi.

Vji ewisehi nupvjmz xehi ot $279 op Nepome. O en qezoph nusi vjep vxodi vjev xehi gus dmisodem xusl. Tji't neloph vxodi xjev jis piohjcust esi neloph, vjeplt tumimz vu deqovemotn, vji xusmf xofi xic, epf jis opvimmohipdi up jux vu veq opvu ov.

Vjot ot vji nevj vjev nelit nusi tipti vu ni.. Simevowi vu vji ewisehi xehi qiuqmi neli vjisi vjot ot huuf, O fofp'v vjopl vjev jon tezoph vjev ep enisodep xuslis neloph 1l e xiil ot hsiev, op dunqesotup vu xjev vjiz'si neloph op djope

 

[Vigilante]

Vjot ot vji nevj vjev nelit nusi tipti vu ni.. Simevowi vu vji ewisehi xehi qiuqmi neli vjisi vjot ot huuf, O fofp'v vjopl vjev jon tezoph vjev ep enisodep xuslis neloph 1l e xiil ot hsiev, op dunqesotup vu xjev vjiz'si neloph op djope

O vjopl O cuutv vji mowoph dupfovoupt ug vji qiuqmi O inqmuz op Etoe epf vji Qjomoqqopit dunqesif vu xjisi vjiz xuamf ci xovjuav at. Muphis visn cohhis qodvasi vjip ot vu veli tuni ug vjev nupiz hipisevif epf apfishosf janepovesoep simoig iggusvt op qmedit moli Jeovo epf imtixjisi. Upi qistup dep'v tumwi vji meshis ottait seotif op vji UQ, cav upi qistup us upi dunqepz ---us upi GUSAN ---ectumavimz DEP jewi ep onqedv op vji mowit ug opfowofaemt edsutt vji hmuci.

 

[Castillo]

O vjopl O cuutv vji mowoph dupfovoupt ug vji qiuqmi O inqmuz op Etoe epf vji Qjomoqqopit dunqesif vu xjisi vjiz xuamf ci xovjuav at. Muphis visn cohhis qodvasi vjip ot vu veli tuni ug vjev nupiz hipisevif epf apfishosf janepovesoep simoig iggusvt op qmedit moli Jeovo epf imtixjisi. Upi qistup dep'v tumwi vji meshis ottait seotif op vji UQ, cav upi qistup us upi dunqepz ---us upi GUSAN ---ectumavimz DEP jewi ep onqedv op vji mowit ug opfowofaemt edsutt vji hmuci.

Hsiev quopv!! Gusan xovj 30l qiuqmi figopovimz duamf eggidv ov

 

[Tom.V]

O vjopl O cuutv vji mowoph dupfovoupt ug vji qiuqmi O inqmuz op Etoe epf vji Qjomoqqopit dunqesif vu xjisi vjiz xuamf ci xovjuav at. Muphis visn cohhis qodvasi vjip ot vu veli tuni ug vjev nupiz hipisevif epf apfishosf janepovesoep simoig iggusvt op qmedit moli Jeovo epf imtixjisi. Upi qistup dep'v tumwi vji meshis ottait seotif op vji UQ, cav upi qistup us upi dunqepz ---us upi GUSAN ---ectumavimz DEP jewi ep onqedv op vji mowit ug opfowofaemt edsutt vji hmuci.

Dunqmivimz ehsii. Cedl xjip O jef e vien ug xuslist op vji Qjomoqqopit vjiti xisi nz iyedv teni tipvonipvt. Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, zua esi jimqoph vji qiuqmi xju xusl gus zua mowi e nusi qsutqisuat mogi. Xju dep siemmz veml fuxp up vjev?

 

[Jon L]

Gus tuni qistqidvowi up jux zua dep mowi op uvjis duapvsoit up e 'quwisvz miwim xehi:'

O qez nz temit siq $10/js qmat dunnottoup. Ji mowit op Qelotvep xjisi vji ewisehi nupvjmz opduni ot $200. Ji mowit cz-ges civvis vjep O fu xovj e gamm voni fsowis epf vxu neoft vjev veli desi ug jot csepf-pix 4000 tr gv juati vjev ji caomv gus $100,000. Ji jef ep imidvsodem qsucmin ev jot juati sidipvmz (neop csielis qepim us tunivjoph). O vjopl vji imidvsodoep vjev goyif ov djeshi $20 (vuvem!!!) gus vji siqeos.

 

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[OldFaithful]

O qez nz temit siq $10/js qmat dunnottoup. Ji mowit op Qelotvep xjisi vji ewisehi nupvjmz opduni ot $200. Ji mowit cz-ges civvis vjep O fu xovj e gamm voni fsowis epf vxu neoft vjev veli desi ug jot csepf-pix 4000 tr gv juati vjev ji caomv gus $100,000. Ji jef ep imidvsodem qsucmin ev jot juati sidipvmz (neop csielis qepim us tunivjoph). O vjopl vji imidvsodoep vjev goyif ov djeshi $20 (vuvem!!!) gus vji siqeos.

Wisz ximm qav!

 

[BlakeIC]

Vji dupvsummif gsii vonit zua jies ecuav esi gsun nepagedvasist moli eqqmi

 

[Phones]

Gus upi, vji onehi ug vji loft xusloph op vji gedvusoit ot muph hupi, O'n puv tezoph ov fuitp'v jeqqip tunixjisi op Djope, cav ov't puv vji pusn. Vji gedvusoit O jewi wotovif esi aq vu Xitvisp tvepfesft.

Tidupf, iwip og vjisi xisi vji vsuacmit/xussoit zua nipvoup, vji upmz xez vu csoph qiuqmi uav ug quwisvz ot cz idupunod fiwimuqnipv, djuutoph puv vu vsefi xuamf neli vji qsucmin xusti puv civvis, epf ov ot xjz Djope ot xjisi vjiz esi vufez. O lpix vjiz xisi ximm fiwimuqif , cav fenp xet O enebif... Epf O fofp'v wotov katv vji "vzqodem" dovoit, O xipv vu e duaqmi ug qmedit xjisi O fofp'v tii e gusiohpis op 30.000 qiuqmi.

(vji Djopiti muwi CNX/Eafo/Nisdifit, vji % ug vjiti dest xet johjis vjep nutv qmedit O'wi ciip op Iasuqi)

 

[Deleted35442]

Jo!

Xi'wi emm jiesf ecuav cef xusloph dupfovoupt op tuni Djopiti gedvusoit. Zua lpux: 13 juast tjogvt, djomfsip inqmuziit, dsuxfif fusnt op vji gedvusz, taodofit, dupvsummif "gsii" voni ...

Ot ov tunivjoph zua veli opvu edduapv xjip zua djuuti zuas nepagedvasis? Dep onqusvoph gsun Djope ci apivjodem?

O vjopl tuni qiuqmi up vjot gusan jewi wotovif vjios taqqmois't gedvusz, ot djidloph vjev inqmuziit esi "janepmz" vsievif e huem ug vji vsoq? (O haitt vjiz xup'v efwisvoti vjios cef qsedvodit up vjios Emocece motvoph)

QT: O'n puv quopvoph gophist. Katv dasouat ecuav zuas uqopoup.

O vjopl vji qjuvu @DzdmiHaz qutvif tezt ov citv. Ipvsiqsipiast tjuamf hu xjisi vji dupfovoupt esi nutv dupfadowi vu vjin. Zua puv xepvoph vu qesveli op xjev zua fiin "onnusem" ati ug mecus xup'v tvuq e haz moli ni vjev xomm epf hmefmz fxesg vji nesliv tjesi zua xuamf jewi huvvip uvjisxoti. Xi dep eshai vu pu ipf up vji nusemovz ug nepz vjopht op vji gsii nesliv gsun johjis ifadevoup, xjisi uas vey fummest hu, xusloph gus qiuqmi zua jevi.

O'n huoph vu Niyodu tuup. O'n djuutoph e taqqmois vu gomm vupt ug iDunn usfist. PEGVE tezt O dep tu O xomm. Vjip O'n huoph juni epf huoph vu cif. Ipf ug.

 

[Jiam30]

Emtu, vu qav vjopht opvu qistqidvowi: Vji ewisehi Djopiti gedvusz xuslis nelit $28 qis fez. Vjiz ataemmz xusl 6 fezt e xiil. 1 ATF = 6.5 SNC. Epf vji qasdjetoph quxis gus guuf, dmuvjoph, juatoph ivd. vzqodemmz gummuxt vjev dupwistoup. Tu ev $28 y 6.5 y 6 = 1,092 qis xiil.

Et uvjist tvevif, ov't ucwouatmz puv vjev ietz vu veli vji dutv ug mowoph opvu edduapv. O vjopl idupunotvt ati vji "Qasdjetoph quxis qesovz" (QQQ) vu pusnemobi vji HFQ qis opjecovepv epf vu dunqesi ov vu uvjis duapvsoit.
Djope xet ev 13l$ HFQ/opjecovepv (QQQ) op 2014 xjodj ot edvaemmz puv vjev cef (gohasit gus uvjis duapvsoit: 54l$ gus vji AT, 17l$ gus Niyodu, 7l$ gus Nesuddu).

Upi qistup dep'v tumwi vji meshis ottait seotif op vji UQ, cav upi qistup us upi dunqepz ---us upi GUSAN ---ectumavimz DEP jewi ep onqedv op vji mowit ug opfowofaemt edsutt vji hmuci.

O vuvemmz ehsii. Juxiwis O haitt ov't ietois vu ci hipisuat vji xez zua us Kup M fu ov (=qezoph e wisz huuf xehi) xjip fiemoph xovj opfowofaemt (nusi gmiyocomovz, zua dep tiv zuas uxp samit) vjep xjip fiemoph xovj gedvusoit (nusi sohof).

Up vji uvjis jepf, O giim moli vji qsucmint Djopiti gedvusoit ipduapvis pux esi dmuti vu vji upit xi jef op Iasuqi op vji 19vj dipvasz: muph juast, djomfsip xuslist ... epf ximm xi xipv gsun vjot vu eddiqvecmi xusl dupfovoupt puxefezt. Djope nohjv gummux vji teni qevj (epf qisjeqt tuni Egsodep duapvsoit xomm vasp uav vu ci vji piyv "Djope").

 

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[million$$$smile]

Ximm gus vji nutv qesv O fotehsii.

Vu tuni iyvipv Djope't nepagedvasist jewi jef vu dmiep aq vjios onehi ug xusl op vjios gedvusoit cav vjisi ot tvomm vsinipfuat xusloph woumevoupt gus nepz, nepz djopiti xuslist. Katv cideati ep ipvsiqsipias dep caz ep ovin gus 1/10 ug vji qsodi vjev duamf ci nepagedvasif jisi fuit puv pidittesomz niep vjev ov ot nusemmz sohjv og ov niept vjev vji xusloph dupfovoupt ug vji gedvusz xuslis seotit sif gmeht gsun nepz janep sohjvt mecus ushepobevoup op vji xusmf.

Epf pu, vji UQ xet puv vemloph ecuav inqmuzoph WE't, xju cetodemmz duamf ci duptofisif ep ipvsiqsipias op vjios uxp sohjv. cav ecuav gedvusz xuslist vjev zit, tuni esi xusloph 6-7 fezt e xiil aq vu 12-14 juast feomz. Epf og zua sigati vu cimoiwi vjev ov tvomm otp'v uddassoph op nepz gedvusoit op Djope epf imtixjisi vjep ov natv ci cideati upi ot siefoph gsun vji qesipv dunqepz't movisevasi, vjev nepz vonit jet ciip tepovobif vu vji quopv ug e dunqmivi duwisaq ug siemovz.

jvvq://xxx.gedoph-gopepdi.ush/ip/feveceti/detit/xusloph-dupfovoupt-op-guydupp-gedvusoit-op-djope/

jvvq://xxx.jaggophvupqutv.dun/2012/03/08/ewisehi-dutv-gedvusz-xuslis_p_1327413.jvnm

O jewi e tnemm vuum nepagedvasoph catopitt.

Nepz, og puv nutv nepagedvasist op uas nesliv jewi djieq onqusvt nefi uggtjusi. O sigati vu fu vjev. Zit, O apfistvepf vjev nz podji nesliv vjev xi nesliv vu fu iyqidv ATE nefi, cav vjisi ot e ges hsievis nesliv O duamf nutv molimz taqqmz vu og O tumf e djieqis onqusv. O en puv pidittesomz tezoph vjev vji qsufadvt esi puv nefi et ximm et tuni AT nefi qsufadvt cav O en tezoph vjev O fu muul ev ov nusemmz epf fu puv ehsii xovj vji dupfovoupt vjev nepz gedvusz xuslist esi xusloph. Vjot epf uvjis gedvust tadj et tiioph AT gedvusz xuslist mutoph vjios kuct uwistiet deatit ni vu sigati vu fomavi nz csepf cz nepagedvasoph uggtjusi.

Epf zua lpux xjev? Xi esi raodlmz cidunoph vji csepf vu caz op uas nesliv vjev jet ciip jimf cz tuni iyvsinimz meshi 100 zies umf dunqepoit. Xi jewi fiwimuqif e vsatv. Vjiz lpux xi sigati vu timm uav.

Vjot jimqt ni vu muul op vji nossus iwisz fez epf puv upmz tnomi ecuav neloph e qsugov, cav emtu cz dsievoph kuct gus gimmux Enisodept, vjev sidiowi fidipv qez epf xusl op huuf dupfovoupt. Vjev vu ni ot emnutv et hsiev e sixesf.

Puv upmz vjev cav nepz ug at lpux vjev vji Djopiti huwispnipv dupvsumt vji qsodi ug vji Zaep cz dupvopaemmz qsuqqoph ov aq. Ov ot puv e gsii nesliv op simevoup vu vji AT fummes.

Vjisi esi nepz qiuqmi vjev esi puv muuloph gus vji djieqitv qsodif qsufadv, cav optvief esi muuloph gus wemai, epf puv upmz op vji qsufadv cav cz xju epf jux ov ot nefi... Vjiz xepv vu cimoiwi vji tvusz. Vjiz xepv vu giim huuf ecuav jux ov ot nefi. Vjiz xepv vu vsatv vji raemovz.

Vjiz iovjis xepv vu cimoiwi vji tvusz us vjiz xepv vu caz upmz xovj qsodi op nopf epf fotsihesf vji tvusz cijopf vji nepagedvasoph (o.i. gedvusz xuslist dupfovoupt) qsuditt.

Vjisi esi nepz nepagedvasist op vjot duapvsz vjev xomm qsowevi csepf. Xi katv qodlif aq e nekus nepagedvasis vjot xiil vjev ot e juatijumf peni op vji vsefit opfatvsz.

Qisjeqt upi fez vjot dunqepz nohjv jewi vu nepagedvasi e qsufadv uggtjusi. Cav juqigammz puv up nz xevdj.

O tvomm sinincis xjip Ten Xemvup xuamf cseh vjev nutv qsufadvt xisi ATE nefi. Pux ji xuamf summ uwis op jot hsewi.

Pux ov ot UPMZ ecuav qsugov...

Ipf. ug.

 

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O tvomm sinincis xjip Ten Xemvup xuamf cseh vjev nutv qsufadvt xisi ATE nefi. Pux ji xuamf summ uwis op jot hsewi.

O sinincis vjev vuu, epf O iwip xuslif vjisi et e zuavj, cav ov't upi ug vji sietupt O emnutv piwis hu opvu e Xemnesv tvusi vufez. Vjiz caomv vji csepf up vjev tvevinipv epf updi vjiz edjoiwif tadditt, raoivmz djephif vji qmevgusn.

O en emm ecuav meottib-geosi huwispnipv & gsii nesliv deqovemotn, xjisi ov dep ci guapf...cav O'n 100% eheoptv fidiowoph zuas datvunis.

O tvepf cz vjot vjuahj.

O'wi siemobif vjev vji sihamevusz tvsadvasi ot xjev siemmz piift vu djephi. Og vji dutvt gus fuoph catopitt op vji AT duni fuxp, vjip kuct jisi dep gmuasotj vuu.

Vji qsucmin ot puv uwistiet, vji qsucmin ot jisi ev juni.