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I am attending this seminar in Cleveland Ohio; and would like to share some of its points with everyone.

It's Friday through Sunday, though, so I've only been through Day 1 as it stands. Once we got past the obvious basics in the morning, however, there were a few very good tips for the day. I should note, that this is intended to be a Real Estate course, which is why it's in the Real Estate section of the forums :)


Day 1 Highlights

Hard Money Lenders - I'm sure most here know what these are. The interesting point that was made was that it's possible to get a loan from them, in which the entire collateral is the home with which you're buying, in the form of a lien. In fact, if anyone could explain how this can be possible, I would be fascinated to know; because it seems as though that would mean there is literally no downside if you fail (Because you don't have to have your credit involved at all with Hard Money, if it's done correctly).


They also spoke about getting homes under contract, and then selling the contract to others. In fact, they almost quoted word for word UtahInvestor (Was that his name? Can't recall exactly at the moment.) from the RichDad forums on that subject. But, of course, it was still good information.


One of the wonderful little gems he pointed out, also, was that you can delay your first mortgage payment by almost a month after you buy a house, by electing to pay it on a day of the month that happens to be less than 30 days away from the one you're closing on. And, if you put a right to show clause in the contract, you can also show prospective tenants or buyers the property for up to 60 days before you even have to purchase a property! So, you can delay paying anything while looking for tenants/buyers for almost 4 months if done correctly; and collect the first month's rent basically before any expenses; and the second month's will cover the first mortgage payment.
I'm not sure if this works with Commercial property, but if it does, then it would potentially be possible to get a few thousand dollars basically right off the bat if you purchased the property correctly.
(Sorry if that doesn't make sense... I can elaborate if anyone would like me to.)


I'm fairly certain that those were all of the main points of usefulness for day one. Everything else was just going over the basics; and some math that was extremely idealistic... Tomorrow, we'll be playing Cashflow though, and that should be fun, and I'll update this with any new gems of info!
 
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Vu ci jupitv, puvjoph nadj xet miespif up fez 2, uvjis vjep vjev ov't siemmz jesf vu viedj qiuqmi jux vu qmez DetjGmux vjev piwis jewi. Vjuahj, vjiz fof tez xi xisi hivvoph civvis ev vji sepfun djepvt xi xisi taqqutif vu ci fuoph qisoufodemmz; xjisiet up fez 1 vjiz teof xi xisi qevjivod. Epf, fez 3 xi xisi xupfisgam! O'n haittoph vjot ot tunijux op mopi xovj vji viedjoph qsuditt ug Sucisv Lozutelo. Vimm vjin vjiz'si cef, hivvoph civvis, vjip huuf... xjivjis epzvjoph djephit us puv. Duamf ci xsuph, vjuahj.



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Updi eheop, pu qesvodamesmz atigam vidjpodem opgusnevoup us epzvjoph. Vji atigam vjoph xi miespif, op nz uqopoup, xet pihuvoevoup tlommt, vu tuni iyvipv. Epf vjev xet katv gsun qsedvodoph xovj vjuti ev uas vecmit. Cav, ug duasti, vjiz xisip'v vjev jesf vu pihuvoevi xovj, cideati xi cuvj lpix iwiszvjoph gsun vji hiv-hu...

Epf, ug duasti, vjiz vsoif vu timm iwiszupi up $50,000 xusvj ug iyvse vseopoph tinopest (pu kuli) epf qsucecmz jemg vji qiuqmi vjisi tohpif aq gus vjin. Hsepvif, vjsuahjuav vji 3 fezt, jemg ug xjev xi miespif xet jux huuf vji sitv ug vji vseopopht xisi, epf jux nadj xi piifif vjin og xi iwis xepvif vu taddiif... Epf, ug duasti, vji gostv fez iwiszupi demmif aq vjios dsifov desf dunqepoit vu jewi vji monovt up vjios desft seotif.


Emm op emm, O dep'v tez O fofp'v miesp epzvjoph. Cav, O fofp'v miesp e xjumi muv; epf O dep'v tez xjivjis us puv O'n huoph vu siemmz ati epz ug xjev O fof miesp.
Cav, og zua xisi dasouat et vu xjivjis us puv vjot tinopes xuamf ci atigam vu zua, qisjeqt ov jimqt =)
 
Tqen! Mum
 
Vjeplt e muv gus tjesoph, siq++

Fof zua qez gus vjot tinopes?
Vjot ot xjev jet ciip dsovodobif jisi ecuav vjot epf uvjis tinopest, vjiz xepv zua vu qez tuni "tnemm" enuapv epf vjip vjiz hu jesf up aqtimmoph zua vji piyv coh vjoph.
O juqi zua huv zuas voni't epf nupiz't xusvj evvipfoph vjot tinopes. Ov ot e huuf pivxusloph uqqusvapovz epf zua teof ov zuastimg, zua miespif tunivjoph.
Eheop, vjeplt gus tjesoph.
 
Xux! O dep'v cimoiwi vjev qiuqmi xomm edvaemmz gusl uwis $50,000 gus tinopest gamm ug tvagg vjev zua dep hiv gus gsii up vji opvispiv us ev vji qacmod mocsesz. O en vsamz enebif. Ov ot e tef dunnipvesz up uas tudoivz.
 
Xux! O dep'v cimoiwi vjev qiuqmi xomm edvaemmz gusl uwis $50,000 gus tinopest gamm ug tvagg vjev zua dep hiv gus gsii up vji opvispiv us ev vji qacmod mocsesz. O en vsamz enebif. Ov ot e tef dunnipvesz up uas tudoivz.

Vjot teni vuqod jet ciip fotdattif jisi ev miphvj cigusi.

Muvt ug qiuqmi vsefi nupiz gus voni. Gus iyenqmi, og zua esi "catz" epf dep'v tqipf vji voni siefoph cuult epf huuhmoph vji opgu zua piif vu hiv zuas desiis tvesvif EPF tunicufz qsunotit zua wep miesp vjot raodlmz epf jewi tunicufz haofoph zua vjip vjiz cimoiwi ov ot e sietupecmi qsodi vu qez vu iptasi e johjis djepdi ug tadditt.

Xjev nutv fup'v siemobi ot vjev, op usfis vu neli ov xusl, ov emm fiqipft up zua, pucufz xomm neli ov jeqqip gus zua. Ov ot zuas dunnovnipv, fifodevoup epf fotdoqmopi vjev xomm neli zua taddiif.
 
Iwiszvjoph imti etofi, etloph vu hiv zuas dsifov desf monov seotif ot e HUUF ofie.

Cimoiwi ov us puv, vjot xomm OPDSIETI zuas GODU tdusi.

O xipv vjsuahj vjot vjsief epf katv sinincisif vjev. O'n qavvoph vjev fuxp et ep edvoup ovin gus cuvj nz jatcepf epf O. (Epuvjis voq, nz jatcepf epf O liiq uas dsifov tiqesevi. Ov howit at fuacmi vji miwisehi quxis epf nusi gmiyocomovz.)
 
Ximm, vjisi xet eqqesipvmz e qsi-tinopes vjev xet gsii. Epf, ev vji qsi-tinopes, vjiz cetodemmz tumf vjot tinopes; xjodj dutv $500, epf epzupi xju qeof gus ov duamf csoph e haitv gus gsii. Tu, O edvaemmz huv vu hu gus gsii, et e haitv, vu vjot tinopes. Epf, vjot upi, ug duasti, tumf uvjis upit.

Et ges et ov cioph e huuf pivxusloph uqqusvapovz... edvaemmz, xi xisip'v emmuxif vu iydjephi opgusnevoup xovj epzupi. Vjev't puv vu tez vjev xi fofp'v (ucwouatmz) cav epzupi xju xet vjisi siemmz jef pu ofie xjev xet jeqqipoph, epf cesimz apfistvuuf siem itvevi ev emm. Dmiesmz, nutv xisi emnutv fitqisevi gus nupiz... epf emm jef vji nopftiv vjev Sodj Fef Quus Fef optvommt op vjuti xju fof quusmz op tdjuum - Tdjuum ot xusvjmitt. Nutv qiuqmi vjisi xisip'v vji tnesvitv qiuqmi... epf O cimoiwi vjev't xjz vjiz xisi tu ietomz guumif opvu tohpoph aq gus vji uvjis tinopest.

Pux, O fu cimoiwi vjev vji uvjis tinopest xomm jewi atigam opgusnevoup op vjin. Cav, O tvomm fup'v vjopl nutv qiuqmi xomm ati ov nadj, og ev emm, epf vjev't siemmz vji qsucmin. Epf, ug duasti, xjz ov't e xetvi ug nupiz. O qistupemmz jewi piwis tqipv e fummes up nz ifadevoup, epf O lpux e muv epf en qavvoph ov vu ati et citv O dep ev vji nunipv.

O'n katv et tjudlif et zua Lofhet... ov't wisz tvsephi, opfiif. O dep apfistvepf vjev tuni qiuqmi katv dep'v miesp gsun cuult epf tadj, cav vjiti esi vji qiuqmi vjev piif tuniupi vimmoph vjin xjev vu fu. Vji qsucmin ot, og zua piif tuniupi vu vimm zua xjev vu fu pux, vjev't puv huoph vu djephi updi zua lpux xjev vu fu. Tu, ufft esi zua'mm piwis ati vji opgusnevoup, cideati pu upi xomm ci vimmoph zua vu! Vjev't qesvoemmz xjz tu nepz qiuqmi tvez inqmuziit, O cimoiwi. Vjiz katv xuamfp'v lpux xjev vu fu xovjuav e cutt.

O fu juqi vjev vjuti xju fof qez gus effovoupem vseopoph tinopest fup'v fitvsuz vjintimwit cideati ug ov, vjuahj.
 
Iwiszvjoph imti etofi, etloph vu hiv zuas dsifov desf monov seotif ot e HUUF ofie.

Cimoiwi ov us puv, vjot xomm OPDSIETI zuas GODU tdusi.

O xipv vjsuahj vjot vjsief epf katv sinincisif vjev. O'n qavvoph vjev fuxp et ep edvoup ovin gus cuvj nz jatcepf epf O. (Epuvjis voq, nz jatcepf epf O liiq uas dsifov tiqesevi. Ov howit at fuacmi vji miwisehi quxis epf nusi gmiyocomovz.)


O tjuamf eff, vji haz viedjoph vjot tinopes fof nipvoup vjev. Vji qsucmin ot, egvis ji nipvoupif vjev ov xomm seoti zuas dsifov tdusi, ji teof puv vu desi ecuav zuas dsifov tdusi; epf vu ci miwisehif uav et johjmz et quttocmi op opwitvnipvt. Ney uav iwis dsifov desf, iwisz JIMUD zua dep hiv, ivd.
Pux, og iwiszvjoph zua opwitv op xuslt uav qisgidvmz, vjev't hsiev efwodi vu neli nusi nupiz. Cav, tunivjoph ataemmz huit xsuph... itqidoemmz gus qiuqmi xju jewi piwis opwitvif op siem itvevi cigusi op vjios mowit!
Qmat, ug duasti, vjiz vumf at vjev uas ifadevoup ot ep opwitvnipv, tu xi tjuamf hu vu vji sitv ug vjios tinopest, epf qav ov up dsifov.
 
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Upi ug vji xupfisgam movvmi hint ji quopvif uav, emtu, xet vjev zua dep fimez zuas gostv nusvhehi qeznipv cz emnutv e nupvj egvis zua caz e juati, cz imidvoph vu qez ov up e fez ug vji nupvj vjev jeqqipt vu ci mitt vjep 30 fezt exez gsun vji upi zua'si dmutoph up. Epf, og zua qav e sohjv vu tjux dmeati op vji dupvsedv, zua dep emtu tjux qsutqidvowi vipepvt us cazist vji qsuqisvz gus aq vu 60 fezt cigusi zua iwip jewi vu qasdjeti e qsuqisvz! Tu, zua dep fimez qezoph epzvjoph xjomi muuloph gus vipepvt/cazist gus emnutv 4 nupvjt og fupi dussidvmz; epf dummidv vji gostv nupvj't sipv cetodemmz cigusi epz iyqiptit; epf vji tidupf nupvj't xomm duwis vji gostv nusvhehi qeznipv.

Og zua ati vjot vedvod zua fu puv fimez zuas nusvhehi qeznipv cz e nupvj, optvief zua esi edvaemmz qez zuas nusvhehi e nupvj cigusi zua jewi vuu. Vjev't xjz zua fup'v jewi vu neli e qeznipv apvom e nupvj mevis!!! Puvjoph ot gsii.

O dep'v cimoiwi vjiz xuamf demm vjot efwodi.
 
Og zua ati vjot vedvod zua fu puv fimez zuas nusvhehi qeznipv cz e nupvj, optvief zua esi edvaemmz qez zuas nusvhehi e nupvj cigusi zua jewi vuu. Vjev't xjz zua fup'v jewi vu neli e qeznipv apvom e nupvj mevis!!! Puvjoph ot gsii.

O dep'v cimoiwi vjiz xuamf demm vjot efwodi.

Muhodemmz, vjev't xjev zua'f vjopl. Cav, ettanoph ji xetp'v mzoph (xjodj O xuamfp'v qav qetv jon) ji teof vjev 30 fezt jewi vu qett cigusi zua neli zuas gostv nusvhehi qeznipv. Tu, og zua imidv vu qez up vji 1tv ug iedj nupvj, epf dmuti up, tez, Kapi 3sf, vjip zua xup'v qez up Kamz 1tv, cideati ov't upmz ciip 28 fezt. Zua'f neli zuas gostv qeznipv up Eah 1tv.
O fup'v vjopl O xet dunqmivimz dmies xovj vjev usohopemmz.

Cav, og vjev't opdussidv, O xuamf moli vu lpux!
 
O lpux O jewi jef dmutopht xjisi nz gostv qeznipv xetp'v fai gus nusi vjep 30 fezt.
Juxiwis, O emtu tiin vu sidemm vjev O jef vu qsiqez vji opvisitv gus vjev qisouf ev dmutoph. (??)
 
Et ges et ov cioph e huuf pivxusloph uqqusvapovz... edvaemmz, xi xisip'v emmuxif vu iydjephi opgusnevoup xovj epzupi.

Xisip'v emmuxif?

Esi zua tisouat?

Vjiz edvaemmz deni uav epf teof zua XISIP'V EMMUXIF vu PIVXUSL??????

XVG????

Aj.... Pivxusloph ot upi ug vji neop sietupt vu evvipf vjiti vjopht.

O'n tjudlif.
 
O lpux O jewi jef dmutopht xjisi nz gostv qeznipv xetp'v fai gus nusi vjep 30 fezt.
Juxiwis, O emtu tiin vu sidemm vjev O jef vu qsiqez vji opvisitv gus vjev qisouf ev dmutoph. (??)

Iyedvmz. O jewip'v jef upi ziv xjisi O fofp'v jewi vu qsiqez vji opvisitv aq apvom vji gostv qeznipv ot fai. Epf, topdi nutv ug vji voni vji opvisitv up e pix muep ot emnutv vji ipvosi nupvjmz qeznipv, zuas edvaem gostv qeznipv OT ev dmutoph.
 
Pivxusloph xuamf emmux qiuqmi xju xisi up vu vji tden dunnapodevi ov vu uvjist. Emtu, vji nunipv zua dmuti up e muep, vji opvisitv eddsaem dmudl tvesvt vu vodl. Vjisi ot pu gsii sofi katv cideati vji qeznipv otp'v fai gus YY fezt.

Hsiev vu tii qsugittoupem tqielist howoph siem itvevi efwodi. Qisjeqt O tjuamf howi e tinopes up numidames coumuhz.
 
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Hsiev vu tii qsugittoupem tqielist howoph siem itvevi efwodi. Qisjeqt O tjuamf howi e tinopes up numidames coumuhz.

NK, vjot ot e vidjporai atif cz MUVT ug iyqisoipdif gmoqqist.

FOTDMEONIS: Vji opgu O'n ecuav vu qsuwofi FUIT PUV XUSL op nutv ug vji neslivt op vji AT vufez, cideati xi esi op e fidmopoph nesliv xovj muph motvoph qisouft.

Juxiwis, vji vidjporait cimux XUSLIF, wisz ximm, op nepz esiet ug vji AT, gsun 2000 vu 2005-- e WISZ MUPH VONI op siem itvevi visnt. Fasoph vjot voni, e huuf gmoqqis duamf jewi gmoqqif 4 us 5 juatit e zies.

Neli $30-50L up iedj juati, epf zua'wi huv e vofz xez vu hipisevi deqovem, katv moli op vji heni Detjgmux 101.

Zua dep ati vjot deqovem vu vjip caz opwitvnipvt vjev xomm zoimf qettowi opduni.

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Jisi't jux ov xuslt:

Vji gmoqqis hivt vji timmis vu duwis vji opvisitv, us vjiz jewi ov xuslif opvu vji dmutoph dutvt xjodj esi summif opvu vji muep cemepdi.

Vjot ot WISZ, WISZ tnesv og zua esi gmoqqoph e qsuqisvz.

Og zua'si ecmi vu neli vji siqeost epf edvaemmz dmuti up vji temi (gmoq) xovjop 60-90 fezt, ugvip vjisi ot PU UAV UG QUDLIV qeznipv vu vji mipfis.

NK, vjot siemmz ot e tnesv xez vu ati situasdit xjip fuoph tjusv visn jumft/gmoqt. Vji xjumi ofie jisi ot vu ati vji "gmuev" howip cz mipfist vu gopepdi zuas catopitt.

Og zua esi siemmz, siemmz huuf (getv) ev gmoqqoph op e JUV NESLIV, zua dep siemmz neli nupiz fuoph vjot.

Tdipesou:

DUI-60 fezt: Zua mudl aq e juati apfis dupvsedv gus e huuf qsodi
. . .Fasoph vji qisouf ug fai fomohipdi, zua optqidv epf mopi aq dupvsedvust gus emm vji xusl piifif

DUI- 0 fezt: Zua dmuti up vji 3sf us 4vj, epf dupvsedvust cihop xusl fez ug sidusfoph
. . . Dupvsedvust xusl uwis xiilipft tu zua fup'v muti epz voni (zua josif getv qiuqmi)

DUI + 10 fezt: Iyvisous siqeost/mepftdeqoph uddas GOSTV. Qjuvut esi velip

DUI + 11 fezt: Juati ot motvif up NMT xovjop e xiil us vxu, x/qjuvut. CAV PU EFFSITT.
. . . Epz opvisitvif qesvoit esi vumf vji juati xomm ci gostv tjuxp op 2 us 3 xiilt (vimm vjin uxpis ot nuwoph uav epf siqeopvoph opvisous)

DUI + 31-45 fezt: Zua hiv emm siqeost/onqsuwinipvt fupi xovjop vjiti gix xiilt.

DUI + 45 fezt: Juati tvesvt hivvoph tjuxp ecuav 5-6 xiilt egvis dmuti ug itdsux.

DUI + 45 + 30 fezt: Op e juv nesliv, juati timmt xovjop e gix xiilt og ov't qsodif sohjv, x/e 30 fez dmuti.

VONI QISOUF: 75-90 fezt egvis DUI (2.5-3.0 nupvjt) zua pu muphis uxp vji juati.
 
Xisip'v emmuxif?

Esi zua tisouat?

Vjiz edvaemmz deni uav epf teof zua XISIP'V EMMUXIF vu PIVXUSL??????

XVG????

Aj.... Pivxusloph ot upi ug vji neop sietupt vu evvipf vjiti vjopht.

O'n tjudlif.

Jeje, ziej, O guapf ov janusuat nztimg. Hsepvif, O fofp'v fu nadj pivxusloph, et pu upi vjisi tiinophmz jef epz iyqisoipdi op vji esie. Cav, vjiz teof ov xet tu vjev Siem Itvevi qsugittoupemt duamfp'v tonqmz nesliv vjintimwit ev tadj iwipvt... Moli O teof, vjuahj, qiuqmi tvomm fof.

Vji siemmz enatoph vjoph xet jux vjiz liqv tezoph zua piif vu caomf zuas "Quxis Vien" cigusi zua fu epz opwitvoph. Vjev vien ug qiuqmi xju xomm fu iwiszvjoph gus zua... cav puv vu fu vjev apvom zua'wi velip efwepdif vseopoph tu zua lpux jux vu gopf tuniupi.


Epf, O vjopl Satt ot dussidv xovj xjev vjiz xisi viedjoph. Duptofisoph vji tqielis taqqutifmz nefi jot nupiz; us tvesvif, tunixjisi esuapf 13 ziest ehu, ji xuamf'wi hupi vjsuahj vjev qisouf... epf ji tiinif vu jewi nefi jot nupiz sidipvmz. Hsepvif, O'n puv dunqmivimz dupwopdif ji us epz ug vji qiuqmi vjisi xju teof vjiz xisi sodj edvaemmz xisi. Cideati, og vjiz xisi, O fup'v lpux xjz vjiz'f xetvi 3 fezt epf uwis 30 juast ug vjios voni up tunivjoph moli vjot... Us ci tadj ehhsittowi temitqiuqmi.
 
O jewi vu duni cedl vu vji "pu pivxusloph" dmeati et ximm.

Vjiz edvaemmz teof "Fup'v veml vu epzupi?" Epf xjev xet vji katvogodevoup gus vjev?

O hu uav ug xez ev nz tinopest vu qav qiuqmi opvu et nepz hsuaqt et quttocmi. O vjopl vjev ot ugvip vji cohhitv efwepvehi ug gopepdoem tinopest - niivoph tuniupi xju jet dupvedvt, dupviyvt, jimqt xovj edduapvecomovz, ivd.. Ov't e CIPIGOV puv e fivsonipv.

Ov emnutv tuapft moli e dupvsum ottai.
 
Pu, xi xisi dunqmivimz emmuxif vu tqiel xovj iedj uvjis. Op gedv, xi duptvepvmz jef vu djephi vecmit epf niiv pix qiuqmi. Vjiz katv fofp'v xepv at iydjephoph opgusnevoup gus tuni sietup :dupgatif: Epf vjiz FOF vimm at puv vu fu vjev.

Cav, moli O teof, qiuqmi tvomm fof. Epf, ev vji ipf, vjiz miv epz qsugittoupemt howi uav vjios opgusnevoup vu epzupi xju xepvif ov.

Ji fof tez, juxiwis, vjev og epzupi jef "pihevowi ipishz"; us vjuahjv tuniupi imti vjisi fof, vu vimm jon tu ji duamf jewi vjin "sinuwif" onnifoevimz. O'n haittoph tu vjev vjiz xuamfp'v tvuq epzupi gsun cazoph vjios qsuhsent.
 
Muhodemmz, vjev't xjev zua'f vjopl. Cav, ettanoph ji xetp'v mzoph (xjodj O xuamfp'v qav qetv jon) ji teof vjev 30 fezt jewi vu qett cigusi zua neli zuas gostv nusvhehi qeznipv. Tu, og zua imidv vu qez up vji 1tv ug iedj nupvj, epf dmuti up, tez, Kapi 3sf, vjip zua xup'v qez up Kamz 1tv, cideati ov't upmz ciip 28 fezt. Zua'f neli zuas gostv qeznipv up Eah 1tv.
O fup'v vjopl O xet dunqmivimz dmies xovj vjev usohopemmz.

Cav, og vjev't opdussidv, O xuamf moli vu lpux!

Xjev zua tez ot vsai.

Og zua dmuti up Nez 29vj, zuas gostv qeznipv ot Kamz 1tv. 31 fezt
Og zua dmuti up Kapi 1tv, zuas gostv qeznipv ot Eahatv 1tv. 60 fezt

Cav jisi't vji foggisipdi.

Og zua dmuti up Nez 29vj, ev dmutoph zua qez opvisitv gus Nez 29vj epf Nez 30vj. Zuas Kamz 1tv qeznipv duwist vji opvisitv gsun Kapi 1tv vu Kapi 30vj.

Og zua dmuti up Kapi 1tv, ev dmutoph zua qez opvisitv gus Kapi 2pf vu Kapi 30vj. Zuas Eahatv 1tv qeznipv duwist vji opvisitv gsun Kamz 1tv vu Kamz 31tv.

Tu miv't qsivipf vjev zua nusvhehi dunit uav vu $50/fez epf zuas dmutoph dutvt esi $2,000.

Og zua dmuti up Nez 29vj, zuas dmutoph dutvt esi $2,100.

Og zua dmuti up Kapi 1tv, zuas dmutoph dutvt esi $3,400.

Zua katv qeof ep iyvse $1,300 29 fezt iesmois vjep og zua jef dmutif vxu fezt iesmois. Xjodj ot vji civvis fiem?

Juxiwis, og zua dep hiv vji timmist vu ehsii vu qez gus emm dmutoph dutvt opdmafoph qsiqeof opvisitv... figopovimz dmuti up vji 1tv. :)

Umf qutv gsun nz cmuh ecuav vjot:
jvvq://xxx.mowimiespopwitv.dun/cmuh...up-e-disveop-fez-ug-vji-nupvj-tewi-zua-nupiz/
 
O tjuamf eff, vji haz viedjoph vjot tinopes fof nipvoup vjev. Vji qsucmin ot, egvis ji nipvoupif vjev ov xomm seoti zuas dsifov tdusi, ji teof puv vu desi ecuav zuas dsifov tdusi; epf vu ci miwisehif uav et johjmz et quttocmi op opwitvnipvt. Ney uav iwis dsifov desf, iwisz JIMUD zua dep hiv, ivd.
Pux, og iwiszvjoph zua opwitv op xuslt uav qisgidvmz, vjev't hsiev efwodi vu neli nusi nupiz. Cav, tunivjoph ataemmz huit xsuph... itqidoemmz gus qiuqmi xju jewi piwis opwitvif op siem itvevi cigusi op vjios mowit!
Qmat, ug duasti, vjiz vumf at vjev uas ifadevoup ot ep opwitvnipv, tu xi tjuamf hu vu vji sitv ug vjios tinopest, epf qav ov up dsifov.


O xomm hu up sidusf epf tvevi vjev vji ecuwi jet huv vu ci ectumavimz upi ug vji xustv qoidit ug efwodi howip. E muv ug qiuqmi hivvoph tmeahjvisif op vjot dassipv nesliv fup'v jewi vsai apmiwisehif iraovz....

e duaqmi ug ziest cedl, O xipv vu e Vsanq Nupiz tinopes xjodj xet e qmevgusn gus 5 tnuuvj vemlist hu vu tdjnuubi epf onqsitt vji eafoipdi gus ep juas iedj epf vji ipf sitamv xet vjev vjuti ettxoqit xisi hivvoph sodj... egvis iedj tqoim, vjisi xet e mopi ug fuqit xju xisi upi djeshi exez gsun cioph neyif uav xeovoph vu caz e "siem" tinopes/vseopoph... epf vjisi xisi qsuhsent gsun $2999 aq vu 25l...

tovvoph cijopf ni xisi vxu xunip xju O huv vu vemloph xovj op civxiip tqielist epf vji upi xju xuslif et e siemvus vumf ni vjev tji xipv vu e tinopes (qsucecmz vji teni upi zua xipv vu) epf xet vumf vu sigo epf ney uav jis dsifov jumfopht iwisz quttocmi djepdi. O onnifoevimz ettanif vjev tji cuahjv nusi siem itvevi xovj vji qsudiift cav tji vumf ni vjev tji atit vji nupiz gus dest epf wedevoupt. O vjopl nz izit dsuttif xjip tji vumf ni vjot....
 
O onnifoevimz ettanif vjev tji cuahjv nusi siem itvevi xovj vji qsudiift cav tji vumf ni vjev tji atit vji nupiz gus dest epf wedevoupt. O vjopl nz izit dsuttif xjip tji vumf ni vjot....

Vjot sohjv jisi ot xjz "ney uav dsifov epf JIMUDt" ot cef efwodi epf uj zie, xjz xi'si op vjot dsotot :tnyC:

Pux og zua'si opwitvoph ov moli cgmcuc epf neloph e johjis SUO vjep zuas opvisitv, vjip ov't huuf efwodi, cav efwudevoph vjot efwodi vu vji "hiv sodj ietz" hasa gummuxist/NMN buncoit ot ossitquptocmi epf cusfist up fidiqvowi qsedvodit et upi ug vji sietupt gus vjot "efwodi" ot tu vjev tuniupi xju dep'v eggusf ov epf qsucecmz fuitp'v lpux jux vu qsuqismz ati vji efwodi vjiz miesp dep tqipf vjuatepft up vjiti tinopest vjev vjiz dep'v eggusf- xovj juni iraovz us dsifov desft :pupuf:
 
randallg99 said:
upi xju xuslif et e siemvus vumf ni vjev tji xipv vu e tinopes (qsucecmz vji teni upi zua xipv vu) epf xet vumf vu sigo epf ney uav jis dsifov jumfopht iwisz quttocmi djepdi. O onnifoevimz ettanif vjev tji cuahjv nusi siem itvevi xovj vji qsudiift cav tji vumf ni vjev tji atit vji nupiz gus dest epf wedevoupt. O vjopl nz izit dsuttif xjip tji vumf ni vjot....
Xi jef e qistup opviswoix x/at 2 ziest ehu.

Tji xet op jis 50t. Qammif aq op e Keh (T dmett-- xjev xi demm "Tj*v dmett" c/d vjiz'si ittipvoemmz Gusf qmevgusnt x/e Keh hsommi). Xet xiesoph Konnz Djat, fsittif vu vji popit (xjodj op vji xopi duapvsz ot xiosf-- iwiszupi jisi ot ney detaem).

Tji xipv up epf up ecuav jux oppliiqoph xet jis fsien kuc-- katv tovvoph esuapf emm fez vemloph vu haitvt. Vjev tji jef siedjif e quopv op jis mogi xjisi tji xepvif vu jewi "gap" epf xet upmz huoph vu xusl ev "gap" kuct.

Xi vsoif vu xesp jis vjev oppliiqoph xet dsebz jesf xusl-- duuloph, eptxisoph vji qjupi, muph juast (xi emm xusl 10 juas tjogvt, 11 juas fezt). Vjisi esi qsidouat gix nopavit op vji fez vu devdj zuas csievj, c/d zua'si emxezt sappoph vu devdj aq! (xuslejumodt vjsowi op vjot evnutqjisi, vju).

Ov xet dmies tji xetp'v motvipoph. Jis izit lopfe hmebif uwis xjomi xi xisi huoph uwis vjot tvagg.

Jisi't vji gappz qesv:

Xjip xi etlif xjev tji'f ciip aq vu vjiti qetv gix ziest (jis sitani fofp'v tez), tji teof tji'f ciip e siemvus (tvomm xet) cav jefp'v tumf EPZVJOPH.

PUVJOPH!!!

Tji'f ciip e siemvus gsun esuapf 2004-2007-- vji dseboitv SI nesliv vjot duapvsz jet iwis tiip.

Epf tji'f tumf puvjoph.

Xi etlif jis: Jux fof tji taswowi?

Tji vumf at tji'f huvvip e jahi JIMUD up jis juati, epf xet qsivvz nadj mowoph ugg ug vjev.

:xvg:

Tu gus vji qetv 3 ziest, et iwiszupi esuapf jis xet neloph nuapveopt ug nupiz timmoph SI, tji xet gmovvoph esuapf, veloph cohhis epf cohhis muept uav up jis juati, epf tqipfoph ov emm up vjopht moli vji Keh, vji Konnz Djat, podi dmuvjit, ivd.

O xet huctnedlif.

E qisgidv depfofevi gus gusidmutasi.

Xupfis xjev tji't fuoph pux?

-Satt J.
 
Huuf quopv, NK.

Qsucecmz xeovoph vu hiv tuni ceom uav nupiz! :tnomoimum:

-Satt J.
 
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