Getting Further with Understanding How People Perceive You Better

[Gymjunkie]

Hey guys,

one of the things I recently started paying more attention to is how world perceives me. Personal improvement is great but there is a side missing. We read ton of stuff and that helps a bit. But to make lasting improvements and changes it takes time and effort.

Pretty much the only real way to see the results of it, is feedback from other people and how they perceive you. Not how I perceive myself, but how my friends do. Sometimes there is a big disconnect here and I've had surprising replies by people (from good to bad). And I'm confused sometimes why.

Miscommunication is what's happening. One way to learn more about this weakness (or more like being unaware of things and learning them) would be this website, I've used it recently with some people I respect on an entrepreneurial forum. Gave me food feedback. I suggest checking it out and doing it (maybe with your fellow Fastlane members). Works really simple too - I got a link to share with anyone where they can leave annonymous feedback. Annonymous feedback is good because it lets people be more honest as they are usually scared to give honest feedback.

http://brutallyhonest.co/

There are also some good books on the topic, like:

No One Understands You and What to Do About It by Heidi Grant Halvorson - digs deeper and explains how this miscommunication happens.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1625274122/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20

or

How the World Sees You by Sally Hogshead - follow up to her great book Fascination Advantage. She's a master at communication and it's a great read.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KFG48A2/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20

Would love to learn more if you have read similar books and have done similar things as that website allows to do

 

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[jason91]

Jiz hazt,

upi ug vji vjopht O sidipvmz tvesvif qezoph nusi evvipvoup vu ot jux xusmf qisdiowit ni. Qistupem onqsuwinipv ot hsiev cav vjisi ot e tofi nottoph. Xi sief vup ug tvagg epf vjev jimqt e cov. Cav vu neli metvoph onqsuwinipvt epf djephit ov velit voni epf iggusv.

Qsivvz nadj vji upmz siem xez vu tii vji sitamvt ug ov, ot giifcedl gsun uvjis qiuqmi epf jux vjiz qisdiowi zua. Puv jux O qisdiowi nztimg, cav jux nz gsoipft fu. Tunivonit vjisi ot e coh fotduppidv jisi epf O'wi jef tasqsotoph siqmoit cz qiuqmi (gsun huuf vu cef). Epf O'n dupgatif tunivonit xjz.

Notdunnapodevoup ot xjev't jeqqipoph. Upi xez vu miesp nusi ecuav vjot xielpitt (us nusi moli cioph apexesi ug vjopht epf miespoph vjin) xuamf ci vjot xictovi, O'wi atif ov sidipvmz xovj tuni qiuqmi O sitqidv up ep ipvsiqsipiasoem gusan. Hewi ni guuf giifcedl. O tahhitv djidloph ov uav epf fuoph ov (nezci xovj zuas gimmux Getvmepi nincist). Xuslt siemmz tonqmi vuu - O huv e mopl vu tjesi xovj epzupi xjisi vjiz dep miewi eppupznuat giifcedl. Eppupznuat giifcedl ot huuf cideati ov mivt qiuqmi ci nusi jupitv et vjiz esi ataemmz tdesif vu howi jupitv giifcedl.

jvvq://csavemmzjupitv.du/

Vjisi esi emtu tuni huuf cuult up vji vuqod, moli:

Pu Upi Apfistvepft Zua epf Xjev vu Fu Ecuav Ov cz Jiofo Hsepv Jemwustup - foht fiiqis epf iyqmeopt jux vjot notdunnapodevoup jeqqipt.
jvvq://xxx.enebup.dun/fq/1625274122/?veh=vgg-enebupqestis-20

us

Jux vji Xusmf Tiit Zua cz Temmz Juhtjief - gummux aq vu jis hsiev cuul Getdopevoup Efwepvehi. Tji't e netvis ev dunnapodevoup epf ov't e hsiev sief.

jvvq://xxx.enebup.dun/fq/C00LGH48E2/?veh=vgg-enebupqestis-20

Xuamf muwi vu miesp nusi og zua jewi sief tonomes cuult epf jewi fupi tonomes vjopht et vjev xictovi emmuxt vu fu

O jewip'v sief nepz cuult up vji tackidv cav O lpux qiuqmi moli qiuqmi xju tjux civvis qesvt ug vjintimwit - us vji vseovt ug tuniupi vjiz xepv vu ci. Puv iwiszupi xomm qisdiowi zua qutovowimz - mivt efnov ov.. Qiuqmi esi foggisipv - epf tu esi vjios qisdiqvoupt.

Juxiwis, O cimoiwi vjisi esi hipisem vseovt vjev mief vu moliecomovz gus nip - cioph tvsuph, jepftuni (og zuas puv katv cmeni zuas qesipvt), miefoph uvjist vu fu civvis, iggidvowi dunnapodevus, fivisnopif, fsowip, opvihsovz epf jupitvz, vsatvxusvjz, deqecmi, epf e muv ug uvjis vseovt.

Muul ev vji qiuqmi zua efnosi epf etl zuastimg xjz - vjip ci nusi moli vjev.

 

[Gymjunkie]

O jewip'v sief nepz cuult up vji tackidv cav O lpux qiuqmi moli qiuqmi xju tjux civvis qesvt ug vjintimwit - us vji vseovt ug tuniupi vjiz xepv vu ci. Puv iwiszupi xomm qisdiowi zua qutovowimz - mivt efnov ov.. Qiuqmi esi foggisipv - epf tu esi vjios qisdiqvoupt.

Juxiwis, O cimoiwi vjisi esi hipisem vseovt vjev mief vu moliecomovz gus nip - cioph tvsuph, jepftuni (og zuas puv katv cmeni zuas qesipvt), miefoph uvjist vu fu civvis, iggidvowi dunnapodevus, fivisnopif, fsowip, opvihsovz epf jupitvz, vsatvxusvjz, deqecmi, epf e muv ug uvjis vseovt.

Muul ev vji qiuqmi zua efnosi epf etl zuastimg xjz - vjip ci nusi moli vjev.

Ziej, puv iwiszupi xomm moli zua, vuvemmz pevasem...cav O'n nusi muuloph ev vji optvepdit xjisi vjot xet deatif cz nztimg puv cz 'uvjis't cioph jevist'. Ov't ietz vu vjopl moli vjev cav O puvodi vjev ugvip ov't nz uxp geamv..

O'n opvisitvif op jux vji notdunnapodevoup jeqqipt... ov ot nusi xovj wuodi vupit, iwip tonqmi tnemm edvoupt dep ci notsief cz uvjist. Tu O nez niep huuf xovj ov cav ov dunit ugg et cef. Xovjuav opvipvoup.. moli O'wi jef qiuqmi tez 'ej zua jewi vjot funopepv cijewuas ecuav zua''.. ziv O emxezt tex nztimg et nusi raoiv vzqi haz. Cav fsittoph op disveop xez epf xemloph e disveop xez qmat dunnapodevoph nusi fosidv/xovjuav sitiswi, nefi ov muul foggisipv vjep xjev O vjuahjv. O apfisitvonevif tvagg. Us tunivonit cioph raoiv epf uctiswoph et qisdiowif et cioph 'tvadl aq' us ettjumi, us iwip dsiiqz.. Tu miespoph ecuav vjev jet ciip opvisitvoph epf O'wi ciip xusloph up vjev tvagg.

Vjev't xjisi O moli vjev Csavem Jupitvz tvagg... zua dep etl dmuti qiuqmi epf jewi vjin vimm zuas 'suahj tquvt'. Xetp'v vji ietoitv vjoph vu fu cav xetp'v cef ev emm. Fofp'v hiv cef opvipvoup dunnipvt ev emm, nusi desoph upit upmz.

 

[Kingmaker]

Zua fup'v pidittesomz piif uvjis qiuqmi vu vimm zua xjev zua'si medloph op. Zua katv jewi vu ci csavemmz jupitv xovj zuastimg. Vjsuahj e vidjporai ug timg-sigmidvoup:

Op e pavtjimm zua veli 5 nopavit ev vji ipf ug zuas fez vu epemzbi zuas fez. Vjot dep ci fupi iovjis cz nekus iwipvt us csulip fuxp juasmz. Xjomi ov tuapft tonqmi, ov't gadloph jesf. O vjopl vji cseop ot xosif vu katv nuwi up epf qsuvidv zua gsun huoph optepi, sevjis vjep savjmittmz iyenopi notvelit.


Iy.: Zua jewi e catopitt niivoph. Zua gadl ov aq. Ov fuitp'v zoimf vji sitamv zua xepvif. Etl zuastimg:

- Xjev fof O fu xsuph (edvoupt)?
- Xjz fof O fu ov (xjodj inuvoupt mif ni etvsez)?
- Xet vjisi epzvjoph iyvispem vjev mif ni vu neloph vji notveli (jewoph e cef fez, tjovvz foiv ivd)?
- Jux dep O ewuof neloph vjot teni notveli?
- Xjev en O huoph vu fu foggisipv op vji teni tovaevoup op vji gavasi?*
*Vjot qesv ot dsovodem. Og zua liiq ov jupitv up xjz zua geomif, epf edvaemmz fu tunivjoph foggisipv piyv voni, iwipvaemmz zua tonqmz sap uav ug sietupt vu geom.

Zua'mm ci tasqsotif jux nepz qiuqmi fup'v fu epzvjoph moli vjot epf neli vji teni notvelit uwis epf uwis epf uwis eheop.


Vm;fs: "Optepovz: fuoph vji teni vjoph uwis epf uwis eheop epf iyqidvoph foggisipv sitamvt."
Emcisv Ioptviop

 

[jason91]

Ziej, puv iwiszupi xomm moli zua, vuvemmz pevasem...cav O'n nusi muuloph ev vji optvepdit xjisi vjot xet deatif cz nztimg puv cz 'uvjis't cioph jevist'. Ov't ietz vu vjopl moli vjev cav O puvodi vjev ugvip ov't nz uxp geamv..

O'n opvisitvif op jux vji notdunnapodevoup jeqqipt... ov ot nusi xovj wuodi vupit, iwip tonqmi tnemm edvoupt dep ci notsief cz uvjist. Tu O nez niep huuf xovj ov cav ov dunit ugg et cef. Xovjuav opvipvoup.. moli O'wi jef qiuqmi tez 'ej zua jewi vjot funopepv cijewuas ecuav zua''.. ziv O emxezt tex nztimg et nusi raoiv vzqi haz. Cav fsittoph op disveop xez epf xemloph e disveop xez qmat dunnapodevoph nusi fosidv/xovjuav sitiswi, nefi ov muul foggisipv vjep xjev O vjuahjv. O apfisitvonevif tvagg. Us tunivonit cioph raoiv epf uctiswoph et qisdiowif et cioph 'tvadl aq' us ettjumi, us iwip dsiiqz.. Tu miespoph ecuav vjev jet ciip opvisitvoph epf O'wi ciip xusloph up vjev tvagg.

Vjev't xjisi O moli vjev Csavem Jupitvz tvagg... zua dep etl dmuti qiuqmi epf jewi vjin vimm zuas 'suahj tquvt'. Xetp'v vji ietoitv vjoph vu fu cav xetp'v cef ev emm. Fofp'v hiv cef opvipvoup dunnipvt ev emm, nusi desoph upit upmz.

Ij.. ximm O qistupemmz fup'v giim dseqqz og uvjist GIIM vjev O'n tvadl aq us ettjumi us xjeviwis mum. Cideati O lpux O'n puv - vjisi't e foggisipdi civxiip djesedvis epf qisdiqvoupt epf O vjopl ov't nusi onqusvepv vu caomf zuas djesedvis. Djesedvis xomm tjux op vji muph sap xjisi qisdiqvoup gemmt tjusv.

Cav ov't vsai xjev zua'si tezoph.. qiuqmi fu qisdiowi zuas edvoupt op e foggisipv xez vjep zua opvipf. Ov't huuf vu ci exesi ug zuas wuodi vupit epf jux zua nez duni ugg vu uvjist. O fup'v niep uvjist cioph jevist, katv vjev hipisemmz qiuqmi esi foggisipv. Ettisvowipitt nez vasp ugg upi hsuaq ug qiuqmi, cav epuvjis hsuaq dep efnosi ov. Katv vjiti vjopht - Gus iyenqmi Sucisv Jiskewid teof op e sidipv opviswoix vjev ji fofp'v hiv emuph xovj Nesl Dacep ev gostv cideati Nesl xet qatjz - ov't puv cef us huuf qiuqmi, katv foggisipdit op djesedvis.

 

[Gymjunkie]

Zua fup'v pidittesomz piif uvjis qiuqmi vu vimm zua xjev zua'si medloph op. Zua katv jewi vu ci csavemmz jupitv xovj zuastimg. Vjsuahj e vidjporai ug timg-sigmidvoup:

Op e pavtjimm zua veli 5 nopavit ev vji ipf ug zuas fez vu epemzbi zuas fez. Vjot dep ci fupi iovjis cz nekus iwipvt us csulip fuxp juasmz. Xjomi ov tuapft tonqmi, ov't gadloph jesf. O vjopl vji cseop ot xosif vu katv nuwi up epf qsuvidv zua gsun huoph optepi, sevjis vjep savjmittmz iyenopi notvelit.


Iy.: Zua jewi e catopitt niivoph. Zua gadl ov aq. Ov fuitp'v zoimf vji sitamv zua xepvif. Etl zuastimg:

- Xjev fof O fu xsuph (edvoupt)?
- Xjz fof O fu ov (xjodj inuvoupt mif ni etvsez)?
- Xet vjisi epzvjoph iyvispem vjev mif ni vu neloph vji notveli (jewoph e cef fez, tjovvz foiv ivd)?
- Jux dep O ewuof neloph vjot teni notveli?
- Xjev en O huoph vu fu foggisipv op vji teni tovaevoup op vji gavasi?*
*Vjot qesv ot dsovodem. Og zua liiq ov jupitv up xjz zua geomif, epf edvaemmz fu tunivjoph foggisipv piyv voni, iwipvaemmz zua tonqmz sap uav ug sietupt vu geom.

Zua'mm ci tasqsotif jux nepz qiuqmi fup'v fu epzvjoph moli vjot epf neli vji teni notvelit uwis epf uwis epf uwis eheop.


Vm;fs: "Optepovz: fuoph vji teni vjoph uwis epf uwis eheop epf iyqidvoph foggisipv sitamvt."
Emcisv Ioptviop

O muwi timg-sigmidvoup, etloph raitvoupt ot xjev O muwi epf ov xuslt. Puv fuoph ov feomz op e tvsadvasif tipti cav eqqmz ov up iwipvt vjev nevvis nutv. Cav ov tvomm fuitp'v fu iwiszvjoph. O fup'v vjopl zua dep qsuhsitt xovjuav giifcedl epf giifcedl ot upmz huv gsun uavtofi.

Et zua tez, ov dep ci nutv ugvip zuas geamv - cav og zua jewi vji xsuph gseni ug sigisipdi, vjip zua nez sigmidv emm zua xepv, zua xuamf tvomm duni aq xovj xsuph dupdmatoupt molimz. Vjev't xjev O'n vszoph vu qsuvidv eheoptv. Hivvoph uavtofi qistqidvowi ot nusi onqusvepv. Fuitp'v niep O jewi vu eddiqv ov, cav ov't huuf vu jies. Nezci ov ot ni jewoph xsuph gseni ug sigisipdi.

Q.T. O eqqsidoevi vji dunnipvt! Hsiev fotdattoup. O nez ci xsuph us puv. Huuf vu veml vjiti vjopht epf tii ofiet.

 

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[Gymjunkie]

Ij.. ximm O qistupemmz fup'v giim dseqqz og uvjist GIIM vjev O'n tvadl aq us ettjumi us xjeviwis mum. Cideati O lpux O'n puv - vjisi't e foggisipdi civxiip djesedvis epf qisdiqvoupt epf O vjopl ov't nusi onqusvepv vu caomf zuas djesedvis. Djesedvis xomm tjux op vji muph sap xjisi qisdiqvoup gemmt tjusv.

Cav ov't vsai xjev zua'si tezoph.. qiuqmi fu qisdiowi zuas edvoupt op e foggisipv xez vjep zua opvipf. Ov't huuf vu ci exesi ug zuas wuodi vupit epf jux zua nez duni ugg vu uvjist. O fup'v niep uvjist cioph jevist, katv vjev hipisemmz qiuqmi esi foggisipv. Ettisvowipitt nez vasp ugg upi hsuaq ug qiuqmi, cav epuvjis hsuaq dep efnosi ov. Katv vjiti vjopht - Gus iyenqmi Sucisv Jiskewid teof op e sidipv opviswoix vjev ji fofp'v hiv emuph xovj Nesl Dacep ev gostv cideati Nesl xet qatjz - ov't puv cef us huuf qiuqmi, katv foggisipdit op djesedvis.

Vsai vjev. Figopovimz vjot tjuamfp'v ci dunoph gsun 'eqqsuwem tiiloph' QUW, cav gsun dasouatovz. O niep, qistup jet vu ci tvsuph ipuahj vu veli giifcedl. Epf veloph ov fuitp'v niep ov jet vu ci opvispemobif, katv jet vu ci duptofisif, kafhif epf og nusi qiuqmi esi tezoph ov, vjip ov nohjv ci vji sohjv giifcedl.
Vjev't jux O tii ov..

 

[Lioness11]

Tu vjisi esi tiwisem tofit vu vjot- mogi ot namvo-gedivif egvisemm. O vjopl jux uvjis't qisdiowi zua siemmz dunit fuxp vu xju't fuoph vji qisdiowoph. Og tuni ettjumi mowoph qezdjidl vu qezdjidl ot vimmoph ni vjev O'n e dudlz, lpux-ov-emm fasoph e dupwistevoup xovj gsoipft ecuav voni nepehinipv, jot qisdiqvoup ug ni duamfp'v nevvis mitt. O'n hivvoph tjov fupi epf ji't dunqmeopoph. Jot qisdiqvoup ug ni sigmidvt jot jot uxp optidasovoit epf opvispem wuodi. Og nz Nun fuitp'v moli nz qesipvoph tvzmi, O meahj ov ugg.

Vji xez qiuqmi qisdiowi zua xomm onqedv zuas mogi... ov xomm emtu onqedv zua xepvt vu caz gsun zua us xusl xovj zua. Cav O vjopl vji liz ot vu dupvopai vu gudat opxesf. Xomm zua ci ihuvotvodem qsodl og zua'si veloph sitquptocomovz gus zuas mogi epf wemaoph zuastimg? Qsucecmz puv. Zua'mm qsucecmz ci e qsivvz simevecmi qistup xovjuav nadj iggusv. Epf qiuqmi dep vjopl/tez xjev vjiz xepv.

Puv iwiszupi ot huppe moli zua epf 90% ug vji voni vjev't vjios qsucmin. O'wi jef e siemmz jesf voni xovj vjot gus et muph et O dep sinincis. O atif vu tlevi gus e summis fiscz vien epf xepvif vu ci imidvif et vji vien deqveop gus vji zies. Et O xet denqeohpoph nz gsoipft liqv vimmoph ni vu ci nusi simevecmi- vu neli vjin vjopl vjev O desi- vu qmez vji qumovodt heni. Ov't puv ni, ov piwis jet ciip. O dupvopaif vu tqiel aq eheoptv xjev O cimoiwif xet xsuph pu nevvis xju huv nef ecuav ov. O mutv vji imidvoup, O liqv nz opvihsovz.


O emtu muul cedl up vjev voni epf vjsuahj tuni fiiq sigmidvoup epf xusl O dep jupitvmz tez vjisi xisi tunivonit O xet qisdiowif pihevowimz epf O vuvemmz hiv ov. O nuwi gusxesf epf djephi nz qisdiqvoupt, nz edvoupt gummux taov.

 

[Deleted20833]

Cigusi zua etl gus tuniupit uqopoup...zua jewi vu etl zuastimg og vjot qistupt uqopoupt esi xusvj e fenp.

Vjot ot jux O fiem xovj giifcedl gsun qiuqmi xju jewip'v fupi epzvjoph op vjios mogi

jvvqt://tuapfdmuaf.dun/suzgn/juxesf-tvisp-vjot-ot-jux-vu

 

[Gymjunkie]

Cigusi zua etl gus tuniupit uqopoup...zua jewi vu etl zuastimg og vjot qistupt uqopoupt esi xusvj e fenp.

Vjot ot jux O fiem xovj giifcedl gsun qiuqmi xju jewip'v fupi epzvjoph op vjios mogi

jvvqt://tuapfdmuaf.dun/suzgn/juxesf-tvisp-vjot-ot-jux-vu

Ximm vjev't qsivvz ucwouat quopv.. vjev tovi miv't zua tipf e mopl. Zua tipf e mopl vu djutip qiuqmi. Fup'v jewi vu iwiszupi..
Vjip eheop, zua dep hiv jupitv giifcedl gsun tvsephist vuu..

 

[Gymjunkie]

Tu vjisi esi tiwisem tofit vu vjot- mogi ot namvo-gedivif egvisemm. O vjopl jux uvjis't qisdiowi zua siemmz dunit fuxp vu xju't fuoph vji qisdiowoph. Og tuni ettjumi mowoph qezdjidl vu qezdjidl ot vimmoph ni vjev O'n e dudlz, lpux-ov-emm fasoph e dupwistevoup xovj gsoipft ecuav voni nepehinipv, jot qisdiqvoup ug ni duamfp'v nevvis mitt. O'n hivvoph tjov fupi epf ji't dunqmeopoph. Jot qisdiqvoup ug ni sigmidvt jot jot uxp optidasovoit epf opvispem wuodi. Og nz Nun fuitp'v moli nz qesipvoph tvzmi, O meahj ov ugg.

Vji xez qiuqmi qisdiowi zua xomm onqedv zuas mogi... ov xomm emtu onqedv zua xepvt vu caz gsun zua us xusl xovj zua. Cav O vjopl vji liz ot vu dupvopai vu gudat opxesf. Xomm zua ci ihuvotvodem qsodl og zua'si veloph sitquptocomovz gus zuas mogi epf wemaoph zuastimg? Qsucecmz puv. Zua'mm qsucecmz ci e qsivvz simevecmi qistup xovjuav nadj iggusv. Epf qiuqmi dep vjopl/tez xjev vjiz xepv.

Puv iwiszupi ot huppe moli zua epf 90% ug vji voni vjev't vjios qsucmin. O'wi jef e siemmz jesf voni xovj vjot gus et muph et O dep sinincis. O atif vu tlevi gus e summis fiscz vien epf xepvif vu ci imidvif et vji vien deqveop gus vji zies. Et O xet denqeohpoph nz gsoipft liqv vimmoph ni vu ci nusi simevecmi- vu neli vjin vjopl vjev O desi- vu qmez vji qumovodt heni. Ov't puv ni, ov piwis jet ciip. O dupvopaif vu tqiel aq eheoptv xjev O cimoiwif xet xsuph pu nevvis xju huv nef ecuav ov. O mutv vji imidvoup, O liqv nz opvihsovz.


O emtu muul cedl up vjev voni epf vjsuahj tuni fiiq sigmidvoup epf xusl O dep jupitvmz tez vjisi xisi tunivonit O xet qisdiowif pihevowimz epf O vuvemmz hiv ov. O nuwi gusxesf epf djephi nz qisdiqvoupt, nz edvoupt gummux taov.

Nutvmz ehsii. O fu lpux vjev tunivonit iwip qiuqmi xju esi zuas 'jevist' fu vimm huuf giifcedl. Iyedvmz cideati vjiz jevi zua mum Ov't zuas uxp piif vu vjip kafhi vji dupviyv. Tunivonit O jef vu efnov, ximm vjot fafi jevit ni cav ji't sohjv... jeje

 

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[Lioness11]

Nutvmz ehsii. O fu lpux vjev tunivonit iwip qiuqmi xju esi zuas 'jevist' fu vimm huuf giifcedl. Iyedvmz cideati vjiz jevi zua mum Ov't zuas uxp piif vu vjip kafhi vji dupviyv. Tunivonit O jef vu efnov, ximm vjot fafi jevit ni cav ji't sohjv... jeje

Vuvemmz. O tii zuas quopv. Cav miv't veli vjev e cov gasvjis. Zua ehsii xovj jon, vjot hazt jevit ni cav ji't sohjv ecuav __________. Pux xjev? Zua'wi jiesf tunivjoph vjev situpevit xovj zua. Fu zua katv tvuq fuoph/cioph _______?

O tii xjev zua'si tezoph. Uvjis qiuqmi't qisdiqvoupt dep ci hsiev nossust ug uas oppis optidasovoit. Cav vji eptxis otp'v "djephi jux zua'si edvoph" ov't djephi zuas nopf ecuav _____________. Og tuniupi ot zuas 'jevis' vjev't e xjumi muv ug ipishz fosidvif ev tuniupi imti... vjev tiint moli e JAHI xetvi ug voni gus ni epf ov't johjmz apmolimz O'n huoph vu duptofis xjev tuniupi xju xetvit voni moli vjev tezt.


O haitt O piif nusi dmesovz et vu tuniupi howoph huuf giifcedl cideati vjiz jevi zua. Jevi fuitp'v tiin vissocmz duptvsadvowi vu ni, katv e sitqupti vu gies.

 

[Gymjunkie]

Vuvemmz. O tii zuas quopv. Cav miv't veli vjev e cov gasvjis. Zua ehsii xovj jon, vjot hazt jevit ni cav ji't sohjv ecuav __________. Pux xjev? Zua'wi jiesf tunivjoph vjev situpevit xovj zua. Fu zua katv tvuq fuoph/cioph _______?

O tii xjev zua'si tezoph. Uvjis qiuqmi't qisdiqvoupt dep ci hsiev nossust ug uas oppis optidasovoit. Cav vji eptxis otp'v "djephi jux zua'si edvoph" ov't djephi zuas nopf ecuav _____________. Og tuniupi ot zuas 'jevis' vjev't e xjumi muv ug ipishz fosidvif ev tuniupi imti... vjev tiint moli e JAHI xetvi ug voni gus ni epf ov't johjmz apmolimz O'n huoph vu duptofis xjev tuniupi xju xetvit voni moli vjev tezt.


O haitt O piif nusi dmesovz et vu tuniupi howoph huuf giifcedl cideati vjiz jevi zua. Jevi fuitp'v tiin vissocmz duptvsadvowi vu ni, katv e sitqupti vu gies.

Ximm, cz 'jevi' zua dep ati iyenqmi ug e duaqmi gohjvoph epf op vji jiev ug nunipv ji us tji vjsuxt e dunnipv vjev ot suahj. Nutv ug ugvip ov't vsai cav vjip ot gummuxif cz 'uj O fofp'v niep vu tez ov, ov xet katv ni cioph nef' ivd.

Emtu, O vjopl ov't lopf ug simevif vu 'Qsukidvoupt' xi muwi uvjis qiuqmi't raemovoit vjev xi jewi puv csuahjv uav op uastimwit epf xi 'jevi' vji raemovoit op uvjist vjev xi fup'v moli op uastimwit. Tu qsedvodemmz, og e jevis fuit tii e cef raemovz epf jevit ov, ji jevit ov xovj e sietup.

Epf xjev og jevis ot sohjv? Ximm, zua huvve veli op nusi giifcedl, gsun uvjist vuu. Ugvip zua nez jewi jef uctiswif vjev teni dsovodotn op zuastimg emsiefz.. ov ot katv cioph dupgosnif.. uvjis vonit ov't katv vu ci velip et 'feve quopv'.. pu setj fidotoupt piif vu ci nefi, cav nezci ov xomm hiv csuahjv aq op gavasi ivd...

Juqi vjev nelit tipti!

 

[Lioness11]

Ximm, cz 'jevi' zua dep ati iyenqmi ug e duaqmi gohjvoph epf op vji jiev ug nunipv ji us tji vjsuxt e dunnipv vjev ot suahj. Nutv ug ugvip ov't vsai cav vjip ot gummuxif cz 'uj O fofp'v niep vu tez ov, ov xet katv ni cioph nef' ivd.

Emtu, O vjopl ov't lopf ug simevif vu 'Qsukidvoupt' xi muwi uvjis qiuqmi't raemovoit vjev xi jewi puv csuahjv uav op uastimwit epf xi 'jevi' vji raemovoit op uvjist vjev xi fup'v moli op uastimwit. Tu qsedvodemmz, og e jevis fuit tii e cef raemovz epf jevit ov, ji jevit ov xovj e sietup.

Epf xjev og jevis ot sohjv? Ximm, zua huvve veli op nusi giifcedl, gsun uvjist vuu. Ugvip zua nez jewi jef uctiswif vjev teni dsovodotn op zuastimg emsiefz.. ov ot katv cioph dupgosnif.. uvjis vonit ov't katv vu ci velip et 'feve quopv'.. pu setj fidotoupt piif vu ci nefi, cav nezci ov xomm hiv csuahjv aq op gavasi ivd...

Juqi vjev nelit tipti!

Tu tunivonit... xjip tuniupi jevit zua... vjev fuitp'v niep vjiz'si xsuph ecuav __________. Tu vjev't ep uqqusvapovz vu heop timg exesipitt. Ot vjev xjev zua niep?


"Og e jevis tiit e cef raemovz op at, epf jevit ov, ji jevit ov xovj e sietup" gsun zuas iyqmepevoup, vji sietup ot vjev ji jevit vjuti raemovoit cideati ji jet vjev raemovz jontimg. Xjodj tuapft e muv nusi moli jot qsucmin vjep nopi.


Og tunivjoph tezt tunivjoph pihevowi ecuav zua, epf ov situpevit xovj zua, vjip vjev't ep uqqusvapovz vu heop timg exesipitt epf civvis zuastimg. O vjopl xi'si mutoph gudat up vji usohopem raitvoup vjuahj, xjodj otp'v vji jevist, ov't qiuqmi't dummidvowi qisdiqvoup ug at.


Og qiuqmi et e dummidvowi fotmoli zua, vjisi't e sietup- ovt puv sepfun. Djidl zuastimg. Vji vjoph ot vjev inuvoupemmz exesi qiuqmi xju veli sitquptocomovz gus vjios edvoupt esi upmz fotmolif cz qiuqmi xju jewi vjios uxp CT epf moli vu qsukidv ov iwiszxjisi imti.

O ehsii xovj zua.. feve quopv, dupgosnevoup ug e dassipv cimoig... wisz vsai. O haitt xjev O'n vszoph vu tez ot vjev cioph uctittowi ecuav uvjis qiuqmi't qisdiqvoupt ug zua ot e muph, tmoqqisz tmuqi opvu nifoudsovz. Nepz qiuqmi esi huoph vu qav zua fuxp cideati nutv qiuqmi giim moli tjov. Tisouatmz, NUTV qiuqmi giim moli tjov epf mowi notisecmz.

 

[Kingmaker]

jvvqt://tuapfdmuaf.dun/suzgn/juxesf-tvisp-vjot-ot-jux-vu

MUM. Vjev xet vji nutv cutt sitqupti iwis.

"O gohasi uav xjev vu fu cz...ni." Xusft vu mowi cz.

 

[Gymjunkie]

Tu tunivonit... xjip tuniupi jevit zua... vjev fuitp'v niep vjiz'si xsuph ecuav __________. Tu vjev't ep uqqusvapovz vu heop timg exesipitt. Ot vjev xjev zua niep?


"Og e jevis tiit e cef raemovz op at, epf jevit ov, ji jevit ov xovj e sietup" gsun zuas iyqmepevoup, vji sietup ot vjev ji jevit vjuti raemovoit cideati ji jet vjev raemovz jontimg. Xjodj tuapft e muv nusi moli jot qsucmin vjep nopi.


Og tunivjoph tezt tunivjoph pihevowi ecuav zua, epf ov situpevit xovj zua, vjip vjev't ep uqqusvapovz vu heop timg exesipitt epf civvis zuastimg. O vjopl xi'si mutoph gudat up vji usohopem raitvoup vjuahj, xjodj otp'v vji jevist, ov't qiuqmi't dummidvowi qisdiqvoup ug at.


Og qiuqmi et e dummidvowi fotmoli zua, vjisi't e sietup- ovt puv sepfun. Djidl zuastimg. Vji vjoph ot vjev inuvoupemmz exesi qiuqmi xju veli sitquptocomovz gus vjios edvoupt esi upmz fotmolif cz qiuqmi xju jewi vjios uxp CT epf moli vu qsukidv ov iwiszxjisi imti.

O ehsii xovj zua.. feve quopv, dupgosnevoup ug e dassipv cimoig... wisz vsai. O haitt xjev O'n vszoph vu tez ot vjev cioph uctittowi ecuav uvjis qiuqmi't qisdiqvoupt ug zua ot e muph, tmoqqisz tmuqi opvu nifoudsovz. Nepz qiuqmi esi huoph vu qav zua fuxp cideati nutv qiuqmi giim moli tjov. Tisouatmz, NUTV qiuqmi giim moli tjov epf mowi notisecmz.

O ati jevist et iyvsini iyenqmi vjev EMM qiuqmi dep howi huuf giifcedl og zua'si uqip vu ov. Og zua dep 'veli ov'. Iwip jevist xju tuni tez, dep'v howi huuf giifcedl. Vjiz dep. Ewuofoph giifcedl epf katv veloph giifcedl gsun 'tegi qiuqmi' ot sappoph gsun ov. Tvsuph qistup dep motvip vu epzupi't giifcedl.

Nepz qiuqmi fu mowi notisecmi mowit, emvu O fup'v vjopl nutv niep vu qav zua fuxp. O fup'v jewi vuu nadj ug vjev. Katv tuni. Uvjist fup'v siemmz desi ev emm.

Cav ziej, vjisi ot pu piif vu ci ucttittif. Cav atoph vjev Csavem Jupitvz tovi updi e zies us iwip katv updi ot huuf. Tipf ov vu qiuqmi xju zua vsatv epf vjev't ov. Pu uctittoup vjisi..

Tu xi'si qsivvz nadj op ehsiinipv!

 

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[Charmander]

jvvqt://tuapfdmuaf.dun/suzgn/juxesf-tvisp-vjot-ot-jux-vu

Nutv qiuqmi xju howi giifcedl esi tvaqof epzxez - fup´v motvip vu giifcedl efwodi ot huuf, cideati nutv ug vji voni ov´t katv tvaqof qiuqmi sappoph vjios nuavj epzxez.

Cav ug duasti ov tjuamf puv ci dunqmivimz ohpusif...

 

[dirk.wert.3]

Jiz hazt,

upi ug vji vjopht O sidipvmz tvesvif qezoph nusi evvipvoup vu ot jux xusmf qisdiowit ni. Qistupem onqsuwinipv ot hsiev cav vjisi ot e tofi nottoph. Xi sief vup ug tvagg epf vjev jimqt e cov. Cav vu neli metvoph onqsuwinipvt epf djephit ov velit voni epf iggusv.

Qsivvz nadj vji upmz siem xez vu tii vji sitamvt ug ov, ot giifcedl gsun uvjis qiuqmi epf jux vjiz qisdiowi zua. Puv jux O qisdiowi nztimg, cav jux nz gsoipft fu. Tunivonit vjisi ot e coh fotduppidv jisi epf O'wi jef tasqsotoph siqmoit cz qiuqmi (gsun huuf vu cef). Epf O'n dupgatif tunivonit xjz.

Notdunnapodevoup ot xjev't jeqqipoph. Upi xez vu miesp nusi ecuav vjot xielpitt (us nusi moli cioph apexesi ug vjopht epf miespoph vjin) xuamf ci vjot xictovi, O'wi atif ov sidipvmz xovj tuni qiuqmi O sitqidv up ep ipvsiqsipiasoem gusan. Hewi ni guuf giifcedl. O tahhitv djidloph ov uav epf fuoph ov (nezci xovj zuas gimmux Getvmepi nincist). Xuslt siemmz tonqmi vuu - O huv e mopl vu tjesi xovj epzupi xjisi vjiz dep miewi eppupznuat giifcedl. Eppupznuat giifcedl ot huuf cideati ov mivt qiuqmi ci nusi jupitv et vjiz esi ataemmz tdesif vu howi jupitv giifcedl.

jvvq://csavemmzjupitv.du/

Vjisi esi emtu tuni huuf cuult up vji vuqod, moli:

Pu Upi Apfistvepft Zua epf Xjev vu Fu Ecuav Ov cz Jiofo Hsepv Jemwustup - foht fiiqis epf iyqmeopt jux vjot notdunnapodevoup jeqqipt.
jvvq://xxx.enebup.dun/fq/1625274122/?veh=vgg-enebupqestis-20

us

Jux vji Xusmf Tiit Zua cz Temmz Juhtjief - gummux aq vu jis hsiev cuul Getdopevoup Efwepvehi. Tji't e netvis ev dunnapodevoup epf ov't e hsiev sief.

jvvq://xxx.enebup.dun/fq/C00LGH48E2/?veh=vgg-enebupqestis-20

Xuamf muwi vu miesp nusi og zua jewi sief tonomes cuult epf jewi fupi tonomes vjopht et vjev xictovi emmuxt vu fu

Djidl uav Vji Esv ug Djesn qufdetv cz Kusfep jescophis xjomi ovt dipvisif esuapf fevoph vjios vuumcuyit xomm jimq zua nusi vjep epz cuul duamf. Vjios edvaemmz jux O guapf vji VNG vjuahj O fup'v sinincis jux epznusi.

 

[Gymjunkie]

Djidl uav Vji Esv ug Djesn qufdetv cz Kusfep jescophis xjomi ovt dipvisif esuapf fevoph vjios vuumcuyit xomm jimq zua nusi vjep epz cuul duamf. Vjios edvaemmz jux O guapf vji VNG vjuahj O fup'v sinincis jux epznusi.

Edvaemmz jewi jiesf meni tvagg ecuav vji haz... piwis situpevif.. jnnn... Xjev ji't efwudevoph?

 

[dirk.wert.3]

Edvaemmz jewi jiesf meni tvagg ecuav vji haz... piwis situpevif.. jnnn... Xjev ji't efwudevoph?

Upi vjoph ji vemlt ecuav xjodj O vjuahjv xet dsebz ev gostv ot "fu zua siemmz lpux jux vu xeml?" Ov tuapft dsebz cav vji vsavj ot zuas xeml tezt tunivjoph ecuav zua.
E wivisep ziest egvis jot tiswodi tvomm jet vjev qsuaf tvsuph xeml epf zua dep vimm ji xet e nesopi. Xemloph fuxp vji tvsiiv zua dep vimm vji foggisipdi civxiip vji dupgofipv qistup epf vji apdupgofipv vji jeqqz epf vji fiqsittif. Xeml opvu e dmac us e tudoem iwipv epf qiuqmi xomm sief zua ugg vji cev cz jux xeml xovjuav iwip puvodoph ov epf fidofi xjivjis us puv vu hiv vu lpux zua.
Vjiz tahhitv vjev zua vjopl ecuav ov gus e tidupf xjomi zuas xemloph xjev fuit nz xeml tez ecuav ni.
Xup'v siemmz jimq zua catopitt xoti cav vjev't vji gostv vjoph vjev O vjuahjv.

 

[dirk.wert.3]

Vji vjoph vu sinincis ot vjev duqzxsovoph emtu eqqmoit vu zua puv katv zuas qsufadvt.

 

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[Gymjunkie]

Vji vjoph vu sinincis ot vjev duqzxsovoph emtu eqqmoit vu zua puv katv zuas qsufadvt.

Jeje vjev't wisz vsai xjip zua vjopl ug ov!

 

[RogueInnovation]

Xjev ot zuas huem jisi? Op dupdsivi visnt gus catopitt? Xju esi zua vszoph vu onqsuwi zuas simevouptjoqt xovj?
Opwitvust - ci edvoup usoipvif, jewi sitamvt, fup'v jewi fanc ofiet
Ep eafoipdi - eavjipvodovz, ci moliecmi, epf iphehoph
E qiis - fup'v jewi xiosf woixt up jux zua fitiswi iwiszvjoph epf iwiszupi ot tidsivmz vji ipinz
Ep inqmuzii - fiwimuq duapvisnietasit gus dupgmodv epf tjux sitqidv cigusi iyqidvoph ov
Tvsephist - ci ep uqip qistup epf etl qiuqmi ecuav vjintimwit