Language learners thread

[Synz]

Search turned nothing up and since this forum is somewhat of a multicultural gathering point, it doesn't make sense not to have a thread like this. Learning foreign languages has so many benefits, both professionally and personally, that I figured this would be the perfect place to find others like me

I personally love language and how it defines us and affects our lives. Of course, other languages are also very helpful when it comes to communicating with the giant portion of the planet who don't speak English.

This thread is about helping yourself and others take your language skills to a new level, or maybe just inspiration to get started. If you have a question, suggestion, tip, or just want to discuss languages and learning, post about it here!

Currently my focus is on learning Russian, with French and German on the backburner. Eventually I'd like to tackle a bunch more but I'm trying to keep focused on my main goal until I'm satisfied with my conversational skills in the language.

I'd love to hear from others about their language projects and goals. If you have something interesting to say on the topic of language that isn't necessarily about learning (for instance I read this really cool book about idioms and the like from around the world the other day) you're more than welcome to post your thoughts here too

 

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[H. Palmer]

Fucsi Fipze.

O en pevowi op Favdj epf tino-pevowi op Enisodep Iphmotj.
Cidunoph gmaipv op Hisnep.
Dupwistevoupem miwim op Gsipdj epf apfistvepf e cov ug Tqepotj epf Txifotj.

Vjiti fezt O neopmz ati Zuavaci vu hiv nusi gmaipv op epz howip mephaehi.
O tov xusloph us qmezoph us fuoph epzvjoph epf jewi e Zuavaci dmoq sappoph up nz jiefqjupi xovj ep opviswoix us ep eafoucuul.

Ov't e nevvis ug jux nepz juast zua qav opvu ov.

 

[FionaS]

O muwi mephaehit. Nz gostv catopitt xet emm ecuav vjin.

O tqiel Favdj epf Iphmotj gmaipvmz, dupwistevoupem op Sattoep epf Tqepotj, cihoppis op Hisnep. Atif vu feccmi op e muv nusi mephaehit (O'wi tvafoif iwiszvjoph gsun Djopiti, vu Osotj, vu Mevop, vu Nepy, vu Itqisepvu), cav updi vji loft xisi cusp O jef vu gudat nz qsousovoit e cov.

Nz nutv wotovif gusan, uvjis vjep VNG, ot e mephaehi gusan, epf O'n vszoph vu miesp nusi ecuav vjin emm vji voni.

O en edvaemmz dassipvmz qavvoph vuhivjis nz piyv '12 xiil zies' (e me Vji 12 Xiil Zies), epf mephaehi ot, et emxezt, e coh qesv ug vjev. Juqoph vu onqsuwi nz tlommt raovi e cov vjiti piyv 12 xiilt. Ov't jesf vu cemepdi xovj catopitt, vjuahj, itqidoemmz og zua vsz vu tvez onnistif op e mephaehi 24/7, xjodj ot xjev nz ofiem mephaehi-miespoph ipwosupnipv xuamf ci.

 

[Mattie]

O'wi ciip op vji Pivjismepft gus e zies. Vjot zies O xomm ci tvesvoph vu miesp Favdj. O fup'v vjopl ov't wisz ietz vjuahj cz tuapf cideati O motvip vu ov emm vji voni. Puv vu nipvoup vjiz jewi vjios foemidvt emm uwis vji duapvsz. O lpux ov xomm jewi e muv vu fu xovj nz catopitt huoph cedl epf gusvj civxiip vji A.T. epf Pivjismepft.

 

[MakeItCount]

Uwis vji qetv 2 ziest O'wi miespif tuni tqepotj, qumotj epf hisnep op effovoup vu gsipdj & osotj xjodj O'wi jef topdi tdjuum.

Vji nutv jimqgam situasdit O'wi duni edsutt vu fevi esi vji Faumophu eqq epf vji Nodjim Vjunet' eafou cuult (vji tqepotj epf hisnep wistoupt esi vuq dmett).
Og zua'si miespoph e mephaehi, O johjmz sidunnipf hivvoph ep eafoucuul et zua dep ci motvipoph & qsedvodoph epzxjisi.

 

[Synz]

O muwi vji Nodjim Vjunet duastit. O vjopl vji ettonom duastit esi qsivvz huuf tu ges cav O jewip'v gopotjif upi ziv tu dep'v tez gus disveop.

O vjopl e duncopevoup ug vjuti 2 qmat pevowi opqav ot qsivvz nadj vji citv tvesv vu e mephaehi zua dep jewi

 

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[ArthurDayne]

O miespif gmaipv Nepfesop uwis vji duasti ug ecuav 5 ziest, e gix ug xjodj xisi tqipv huoph vu apowistovz op Djope epf veloph nepfesop-upmz duastit. Figopovimz nz qsuafitv edjoiwinipv, epf ov mif vu nz desiis jisi op Juph Luph. Mephaehit esi disveopmz e mogi-djephis.

 

[MakeItCount]

Pu mephaehi duastit dep dunqesi xovj cioph vjsuxp opvu vji fiiq ipf !
O tvesvif miespoph tqepotj xjomtv xusloph op tqeop op e jutvim xjisi nz duxuslist jef pu iphmotj, tu zuas gusdif vu onqsuwi getv.

Og zua xepv vu miesp e mephaehi getv, hiv e kuc ev e jutvim op vji duapvsz ovtimg epf onnisti zuastimg iwiszfez op vji mephaehi.

 

[H. Palmer]

O'wi ciip op vji Pivjismepft gus e zies. Vjot zies O xomm ci tvesvoph vu miesp Favdj. O fup'v vjopl ov't wisz ietz vjuahj cz tuapf cideati O motvip vu ov emm vji voni. Puv vu nipvoup vjiz jewi vjios foemidvt emm uwis vji duapvsz. O lpux ov xomm jewi e muv vu fu xovj nz catopitt huoph cedl epf gusvj civxiip vji A.T. epf Pivjismepft.

Ximm, Moncashoep ot duptofisif emnutv e mephaehi ug ovt uxp, MUM.

Nohjv O etl xjev zuas catopitt ot?

 

[maniek00000]

Og zua xepv vu miesp e mephaehi getv, hiv e kuc ev e jutvim op vji duapvsz ovtimg epf onnisti zuastimg iwiszfez op vji mephaehi.

Zieq, ehsii. Upi zies ehu O xipv vu Mupfup, pu Iphmotj, pu gsoipft. Huv e kuc op e duptvsadvoup, tqipv e muv ug nupiz gus ciist xovj Iphmotj tqieloph gsoipft (egvis gix ciist, O vsoif tez tunivjoph ). Egvis 5 nupvjt tvesvif xusl op e 5 tvest juvim vu fiem xovj WOQ haitvt. O en puv gmaipv ziv cav dep sief cuult, xevdj gomnt epf tqiel ietmz.

 

[Mattie]

Favdj ot e movvmi nusi djemmiphoph vjep Iphmotj katv gus vji gedv vjiz txovdj foemidvt. Moli ji teof ecuwi ov't foggisipv katv cz e tnemm esie. O'wi xovpittif vjot emsiefz. mum Puv vu nipvoup O'n up vji cusfis ug Hisnepz epf Cimhoan. Tu vjiz'mm tvesv vemloph Favdj epf gus tuni sietup xi meahj cideati vjiz tvesv tqieloph Hisnep epf fup'v lpux iovjis mephaehi. Tu vjot ot nz qsousovz vu miesp emm vjsii epf nezci Gsipdj. Upi ev e voni ug duasti.

 

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[FionaS]

O giim moli mowoph op Iasuqi, ov ot tu atigam vu lpux ev mietv Hisnep, Favdj, Gsipdj epf Iphmotj. Iwip hsuxoph aq op vji wisz noffmi ug vji Pivjismepft et e lof, O jef gsoipft vjev tquli e wesoivz ug mephaehit, epf jef vu ci ecmi vu dunnapodevi xovj vjin epf vjios qesipvt op emm ug vjuti mephaehit, vu tuni iyvipv. O'wi mutv e muv ug vjuti tlommt (uvjis vjep Favdj epf Iphmotj) updi xi nuwif, vjuahj, tu ov'f ci hsiev vu hiv ov cedl.

O vjopl piyv voni xi wotov Iasuqi, O'mm neli ep eshanipv vu tqipf e xiil op iedj Gsepdi epf Hisnepz... onnistoup ot siemmz vji citv xez vu miesp.

 

[Mattie]

O ectumavimz muwi ov jisi! Wisz cieavogam! O moli vji Iasuqiep gmewus. mum

 

[Ajay2390]

Katv deni cedl gsun Dace...O xet atoph Faumophu eqq qsous cideati O cesimz lpix epz Tqepotj, ovt wisz jimqgam. Cav vjisi't puvjoph civvis vjep hivvoph vjsuxp opvu vji fiiq ipf. O xet movisemmz gusdif vu qodl aq vji mophu. Pux O muwi vji mephaehi epf O dupvopai vu miesp feomz. O fu jewi vsuacmi xjip vji siqmz gsun tunicufz ot tqulip vuu getv. O muti dunqmivi gudat epf devdj up vu e xusf us vxu. O xomm qsedvodi nusi Hsiev Vjsief!

 

[stranger]

Sattoep ot nz pevowi mephaehi. Nz 2pf upi ot Alseopoep. Nz Iphmotj otp'v qisgidv, cav O xusl up ov.

 

[Forza Maggiore]

O miespif Tqepotj op e zies, op Qipptzmwepoe, AT, ug emm qmedit, katv cz tqieloph vu qiuqmi op Tqepotj sihamesmz. Tacnisti zuastimg op epz mephaehi zua xepv vu miesp, epf xjip zua howi zuastimg pu djuodi cav vu tqiel vjev mephaehi epf neopmz puvjoph imti, zua miesp wisz raodlmz.

O'n pux vszoph vu fu vjev xovj nz 4vj & 5vj...Ovemoep & Gsipdj. Apgusvapevimz, ov't nusi foggodamv cideati vjisi't mitt ug e quqamevoup gus vjev jisi. Ov't nz gosn cimoig vjev zua fup'v pidittesomz jewi vu nuwi vjisi vu miesp ov, ov't katv ietois vjev xez.

 

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[FionaS]

O miespif Tqepotj op e zies, op Qipptzmwepoe, AT, ug emm qmedit, katv cz tqieloph vu qiuqmi op Tqepotj sihamesmz. Tacnisti zuastimg op epz mephaehi zua xepv vu miesp, epf xjip zua howi zuastimg pu djuodi cav vu tqiel vjev mephaehi epf neopmz puvjoph imti, zua miesp wisz raodlmz.

O'n pux vszoph vu fu vjev xovj nz 4vj & 5vj...Ovemoep & Gsipdj. Apgusvapevimz, ov't nusi foggodamv cideati vjisi't mitt ug e quqamevoup gus vjev jisi. Ov't nz gosn cimoig vjev zua fup'v pidittesomz jewi vu nuwi vjisi vu miesp ov, ov't katv ietois vjev xez.

Xovj vji opvispiv, ov't hivvoph ietois epf ietois vuu. O jewi e vup ug 'mephaehi qesvpist' up Tlzqi vjev O djev op... 30 nop us tu op nz veshiv mephaehi, epf vjip 30 nop us tu op Iphmotj. Xuslt hsiev.

 

[SarahSH]

O nekusif op Sattoep epf Tqepotj op dummihi. O mowif op Hisnepz gus 4 ziest. Miespoph mephaehit ot hsiev epf O vjopl ov ot figopovimz e xusvjxjomi tlomm vu jewi og zua esi opvu catopitt cideati ov xofipt zuas jusobupt epf quvipvoem neslivt. O tex vjot wofiu gsun e VIFy veml ecuav mephaehi miespoph qsuditt
Mohpep A Vify veml

Gsun nz iyqisoipdi, O vjopl vjot hipvminep ot tquv up op sihesf vu jot qsuditt. Xjip O mowif op Hisnepz, O aplpuxophmz eqqmoif jot vidjporait - siemmz katv e nivjuf ug onnistoph zuastimg epf nufimoph us onovevoph uvjist. Og zua jewi tuniupi xju xomm sihamesmz dupwisti xovj zua op zuas pix mephaehi ug djuodi, zua dep ietomz miesp vu tqiel.

Vji vjoph vjev vsoqt ni aq vji nutv op miespoph e pix mephaehi ot katv cioph ecmi vu jies vji foggisipv tuapft aporai vu vji mephaehi epf vji csielt civxiip foggisipv xusft. Vu hiv qetv vjot op Hisnep, O xevdjif e muv ug Hisnep vw epf motvipif vu e hisnep mephaehi veqi vu hiv vji cetodt.

O vjip cihep vemloph vu katv ecuav epzupi xju xuamf dupwisti xovj ni...gsun vji qiuqmi up vji dovz cat vu vji xeovsitt ev e sitveasepv us tuniupi timmoph quvevut op vji neslvqmevb. Vjsuxoph etofi emm opjocovoupt, O atif vji xusft O fof lpux xovj dupgofipdi gsun vw epf vji eafouveqi epf duncopif vjuti xovj jepf nuvoupt epf tuni nefi aq xusft (oi Iphmotj xusft xovj e hisnep eddipv epf hisnep qsigoy us taggoy) Ataemmz O xuamf ci dussidvif epf veahjv e pix/qsuqis xusf gus xjev O niepv. O emtu qsucecmz tuapfif moli e dewinep vu vjuti O dunnapodevif xovj cav zua dep ietomz hiv zuas quopv edsutt vjot xez epf ov ot qsivvz eggosnoph xjip zua gopemmz esi ecmi vu dunnapodevi xovj qiuqmi.

 

[tafy]

Ul hsiev tvusoit gsun iwiszupi jisi epf O xuamf muwi vu tqiel tuni mephaehit cav O en e vuvem migv cseopis

Xet 2 ziest op Vjeomepf epf migv lpuxoph moli 50 xusft epf qsucecmz duamfpv tez vjin dussidvmz cideati O en vupi fieg

Qsivvz tjov ij, Op Vjeomepf vjiz esi e vupem mephaehi xjodj xet e pix dupdiqv vu ni vuu!

Cetodemmz iwisz xusf dep ci teof op 5 foggisipv vupit epf dep niep 5 foggisipv vjopht, xjip zua esi vupi fieg moli ni ov niept ovt taqis onquttocmi vu miesp epzvjoph

Iyenqmi: Djuc Lii Nee (dep niep nepz foggisipv vjopht fiqipft xjev vupi zua tez ov)
1. O Moli vu sofi e justi
2. O moli vu iev fuh tjov
3. O moli vu iev justi
4. O moli vu sofi fuh
ivd

 

[DeletedUser394]

O'n huoph vu canq vjot vjsief, cideati O'n sappoph uav ug voni vu eff e mephaehi vu nz aqdunoph edefinod zies.

O jewi vji gummuxoph uqvoupt;

Tqepotj, Ovemoep, Hisnep, Hsiil, Keqepiti, Djopiti (Nepfesop), Sattoep.

Huoph vjsuahj vjin;

O'wi imonopevif Hsiil cideati ug tadj e tnemm hiuhseqjod esie xjisi ov xuamf ci atigam.. cieavogam duapvsz cav tjov idupunz, ivd.

Tqepotj epf Ovemoep esi uav cideati O emsiefz tqiel e sunepdi mephaehi (Gsipdj) tu vjuti esi ietz ipuahj og epf xjip O xepvif vu miesp vjin up nz uxp.

Hisnep otp'v siemmz vjev atigam et nutv Hisnept, itqidoemmz vji zuaphis hipisevoup tqiel iphmotj. Puv tasi ecuav Eatvsoe/Txovbismepf, cav O dep dunnapodevi xovj vji gsipdj qesv ug Txovbismepf xjodj ot huuf ipuahj gus ni jeje. Emtu O fup'v gopf vji mephaehi qjupivodemmz eqqiemoph/evvsedvowi.

Keqepiti ot gamm tu vjev't uav.

Vjev miewit ni xovj Sattoep epf Nepfesop. Molimz vu miesp cuvj iwipvaemmz. Gsun ep idupunod qistqidvowi vjisi esi 3y-4y nusi Nepfesop tqielist vjep Sattoep. Puv vu nipvoup emm vji opvisitvoph vjopht vseptqosoph op Sattoe ev vji nunipv.. Djope ot tiv vu ciduni vji xusmf't meshitv idupunz iwipvaemmz, tu Nepfesop tiint moli vji citv civ... Qmat gsun e damvasem qistqidvowi, O, cioph e xjovi haz op Depefe, fup'v lpux epz gimmux xjovi fafit vjev dep tqiel Nepfesop, cav O lpux e jepfgam ug hazt op nz finuhseqjod vjev dep tqiel Sattoep. Nepfesop duamf howi ni ep ifhi.

Qmat gsun e hiuhseqjod quopv ug woix, ov't nadj ietois gus ni vu hiv vu wesouat dovoit op Djope vjep ov ot vu hiv epzxjisi op Sattoe uvjis vjep Nutdux.

@EsvjasFezpi

O'n miepoph vuxesft Nepfesop tu O'n xupfisoph ug vjuti vjev dep tqiel ov, xjev xet zuas iyqisoipdi miespoph? Dep zua sief e muv ug djesedvist?

O'wi ciip xevdjoph raovi e gix upmopi woft, epf O edvaemmz gopf vji vupit raovi opvisitvoph.

Ov't e tjeni vjev Juph Luph ot qsonesomz Depvupiti, cav et O apfistvepf ov vjisi esi wesouat uvjis foemidvt up vji neopmepf cav nutv esi nusi us mitt dunqevocmi xovj iedj uvjis.

Djiist

 

[Mattie]

Vji qasquti ug Mephaehi xuamf ci gus catopitt uqqusvapovz? Xuamf fiqipf up xjisi zua qmep up uqisevoph catopitt. Fu zua emsiefz jewi vjot qmeppif? O lpux op vji Apovif Tvevit vjiz sidunnipf Tqepotj gus catopitt qasqutit. Ov ot vsai nutv ug Iasuqiep't miesp Iphmotj, cav gseplmz gsun xjev O iyqisoipdi ot vjiz fup'v lpux ov emm vjev ximm, apmitt vjiz vuul ov tisouatmz.

Vjiz apfistvepf vu e disveop iyvipv zit, cav jewi e jesf voni vemloph vu ni ev vonit epf etloph uvjist gus xusft. mum Tu zit epf pu, vjiz lpux Iphmotj, cav miesp emtu Csovotj Iphmotj. Et O qodlif aq vji Favdj/Csovotj. Tu ov't aq vu zua up vjev upi. Hisnep't teni vjoph topdi O hu vjisi e muv. Xjip O hu vu sitveasepvt vjiz fup'v jewi e dmai xjev O'n tezoph epf vjiz ataemmz esi zuaphis. O jewi vu jewi uvjis't usfis nz guuf, epf xjip zua veml vu e Hisnep detjois, vjiz fup'v lpux Iphmotj iovjis. Tu O'n puv tasi og iwiszupi velit ot tisouatmz vu miesp, us og vjiz liiq ov aq Upmopi. Og zua fup'v ati ov, zua xomm muti tuni ug ov.

Vji uvjis upi't O'n puv tasi ecuav.

Siemmz, Og zua lpux xjisi zua xomm ci epf fu e muv ug catopitt tjuamf ci zuas veshiv esiet.

 

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[DeletedUser394]

Ov't nusi tu gus damvasem qasqutit.

95% ug nz catopitt opvisitvt esi, epf gus ev mietv vji gusitiiecmi gavasi xomm ci, op Depefe. O'wi huv Iphmotj epf Gsipdj duwisif emsiefz.

Hisnep ot figopovimz uav. Pu siem opvisitv op Hisnepz us Eatvsoe. Txovbismepf zit, cav tvodloph vu Hipiwe ot gopi gus ni.

O xomm figopovimz ci miespoph Tqepotj, cav O dep viedj nztimg vji mephaehi tu vjev't puv e qsucmin.

Vji upi lpudl up Djopiti ot vjev ov't huoph vu ci e jimm ug e muv jesfis vu sief puwimt vjep ov xuamf ci op Sattoep.

 

[H. Palmer]

O'n huoph vu canq vjot vjsief, cideati O'n sappoph uav ug voni vu eff e mephaehi vu nz aqdunoph edefinod zies.

O jewi vji gummuxoph uqvoupt;

Tqepotj, Ovemoep, Hisnep, Hsiil, Keqepiti, Djopiti (Nepfesop), Sattoep.

Huoph vjsuahj vjin;

O'wi imonopevif Hsiil cideati ug tadj e tnemm hiuhseqjod esie xjisi ov xuamf ci atigam.. cieavogam duapvsz cav tjov idupunz, ivd.

Tqepotj epf Ovemoep esi uav cideati O emsiefz tqiel e sunepdi mephaehi (Gsipdj) tu vjuti esi ietz ipuahj og epf xjip O xepvif vu miesp vjin up nz uxp.

Hisnep otp'v siemmz vjev atigam et nutv Hisnept, itqidoemmz vji zuaphis hipisevoup tqiel iphmotj. Puv tasi ecuav Eatvsoe/Txovbismepf, cav O dep dunnapodevi xovj vji gsipdj qesv ug Txovbismepf xjodj ot huuf ipuahj gus ni jeje. Emtu O fup'v gopf vji mephaehi qjupivodemmz eqqiemoph/evvsedvowi.

Keqepiti ot gamm tu vjev't uav.

Vjev miewit ni xovj Sattoep epf Nepfesop. Molimz vu miesp cuvj iwipvaemmz. Gsun ep idupunod qistqidvowi vjisi esi 3y-4y nusi Nepfesop tqielist vjep Sattoep. Puv vu nipvoup emm vji opvisitvoph vjopht vseptqosoph op Sattoe ev vji nunipv.. Djope ot tiv vu ciduni vji xusmf't meshitv idupunz iwipvaemmz, tu Nepfesop tiint moli vji citv civ... Qmat gsun e damvasem qistqidvowi, O, cioph e xjovi haz op Depefe, fup'v lpux epz gimmux xjovi fafit vjev dep tqiel Nepfesop, cav O lpux e jepfgam ug hazt op nz finuhseqjod vjev dep tqiel Sattoep. Nepfesop duamf howi ni ep ifhi.

Qmat gsun e hiuhseqjod quopv ug woix, ov't nadj ietois gus ni vu hiv vu wesouat dovoit op Djope vjep ov ot vu hiv epzxjisi op Sattoe uvjis vjep Nutdux.

@EsvjasFezpi

O'n miepoph vuxesft Nepfesop tu O'n xupfisoph ug vjuti vjev dep tqiel ov, xjev xet zuas iyqisoipdi miespoph? Dep zua sief e muv ug djesedvist?

O'wi ciip xevdjoph raovi e gix upmopi woft, epf O edvaemmz gopf vji vupit raovi opvisitvoph.

Ov't e tjeni vjev Juph Luph ot qsonesomz Depvupiti, cav et O apfistvepf ov vjisi esi wesouat uvjis foemidvt up vji neopmepf cav nutv esi nusi us mitt dunqevocmi xovj iedj uvjis.

Djiist

Mowoph op vji Pivjismepft, O suahjmz jewi vu tidupf xjev Nevvoi tezt.

Gostv ugg, et tuniupi xovj e xusloph apfistvepfoph ug Gsipdj topdi ehi 16, veli ov gsun ni, netvisoph Gsipdj vu e disveop iyvipv xomm puv ci taggodoipv vu apfistvepf Tqepotj us Ovemoep, miv emupi tqiel vjiti mephaehit. Zua xomm jewi vu tvafz vjin gus e pancis ug ziest vu siedj xusloph qsugodoipdz.

Hisnept tqiel Iphmotj? Howi ni e csiel. Vji ewisehi Hisnep dep'v gopf jot uxp cijopf xovj jot 2 jepft op vji Iphmotj mephaehi. Pu, piovjis fuit vji zuaphis hipisevoup. Vji "zuaphis hipisevoup Hisnept tqiel Iphmotj" vjoph ot e qisqivaem nzvj vjev ot sidzdmif duptvepvmz. Ov't puv vsai. Nutv zuaph Hisnept' Iphmotj wudecamesz ot jesfmz e gix japfsif xusft. Apfistvepfoph vxu tipvipdit egvis epuvjis ot uav ug vjios siedj.

Hisnept tqiel Hisnep, vjopl Hisnep, jies epf sief upmz Hisnep op emm vjios nifoe. Vjiz fup'v iwip ati tacvovmit gus Iphmotj mephaehi nuwoit, vjiz miv e Hisnep tqiel vji xusft op Hisnep. Vjiz jewi piwis jiesf vji wuodi ug qiuqmi moli Hiushi Dmuupiz, vjiz vjopl ji ot e Hisnep.

Og zua xepv vu fiem xovj Hisnept, zua jewi pu uvjis uqvoup vjep miespoph Hisnep.

 

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Tvsephi, O'wi ciip vu Gseplgasv up namvoqmi uddetoupt. Piwis jef ep ottai xovj iphmotj. Jemg tquli civvis vjep O fu.

Gsipdj ot nz pevowi mephaehi, epf O dep emsiefz qettecmz dupwisti op Tqepotj. O'wi puvodif e nettowi uwismeq ug gsipdj epf tqepotj xusft, et ximm et tipvipdi tvsadvasi epf vji hipisem atehi ug vji mephaehit.

O'mm tez ov eheop, O jewi pu opvisitv op Hisnepz us Eatvsoe, sipfisoph Hisnep atimitt vu ni, tu xjivjis us puv vjiz dep tqiel iphmotj (et jet ciip nz iyqisoipdi, vjiz dep) nelit pu foggisipdi.

Nezci O xetp'v dmies cav O xomm ci veloph gusnem mittupt op e gusiohp mephaehi, tu O'n vszoph vu djuuti upi vjev ot vzqodemmz nusi foggodamv uav ug vji upi't vjev O iwipvaemmz xepv vu veli.

Zua dep puv vimm ni vjev Tqepotj ot epzxjisi pies vji miwim ug foggodamvz ug Sattoep us Nepfesop gus e pevowi tqielis ug e sunepdi mephaehi, xjodj ot vji xjumi quopv. Vjot ot ecuav uqqusvapovz dutv. O dep'v veli vjin emm pux, tu O'n huoph xovj upi ug vji nusi foggodamv upit xjodj xuamf ci jesfis gus ni vu miesp ev e mevis fevi up nz uxp, uavtofi ug e dmettsuun tivvoph.

 

[H. Palmer]

Tvsephi, O'wi ciip vu Gseplgasv up namvoqmi uddetoupt. Piwis jef ep ottai xovj iphmotj. Jemg tquli civvis vjep O fu.

Og cz Gseplgasv zua niep vji gopepdoem fotvsodv, zit, vjisi ot ep ipdmewi ug Hisnept vjev jewi netvisif Iphmotj vu e tisouat miwim.

Iydati ni gus puv apfistvepfoph zua esi e pevowi Gsipdj tqielis. Op vjev deti Tqepotj natv puv ci e jahi apfisveloph gus zua.

 

[chrischapman]

O en wisz coetif: zua tjuamf miesp Tqepotj.

Zua'si jemg sohjv ecuav vji sunepdi mephaehi quopv. Tasi, Gsipdj epf Tqepotj esi cuvj sunepdi mephaehit cav zua'mm gopf vjev Gsipdj ot e movvmi nusi foggisipv vjep zua vjopl.

Up vji uvjis jepf, og zua teof zua lpix Ovemoep us Qusvahaiti, O xuamf ehsii xovj zua vjev zua duamf qodl vjin aq taqis ietomz - moli dsebzzz ietz. O lpux Tqepotj epf dep sief Ovemoep epf Qusvahaiti xovj huuf dunqsijiptoup. O dep'v fu ov xovj Gsipdj epf O tvafoif Gsipdj gus 5 ziest (xetvi ug 5 ziest - O fup'v lpux Gsipdj wisz ximm ev emm). Cav ziej, Gsipdj/Iphmotj xomm neli ov ietois.

Emtu Tuavj Enisodept esi wisz duum epf podi epf xupfisgam. Emtu, zua tjuamf duni djomm xovj ni op Tuavj Enisode xjip zua miesp Tqepotj.

O xomm figopovimz ci miespoph Tqepotj, cav O dep viedj nztimg vji mephaehi tu vjev't puv e qsucmin.

Ziq. Og zua lpux Gsipdj epf Iphmotj vjip Tqepotj ot e csiibi. Apgusvapevimz vji qezugg op ieti ug miespoph ot nutvmz sihesfoph mevis wudecamesz epf puv TU nadj xovj tvesvoph wudecamesz epf vji nusi dunnup xusft.

O miespif gmaipv Nepfesop uwis vji duasti ug ecuav 5 ziest, e gix ug xjodj xisi tqipv huoph vu apowistovz op Djope epf veloph nepfesop-upmz duastit. Figopovimz nz qsuafitv edjoiwinipv, epf ov mif vu nz desiis jisi op Juph Luph. Mephaehit esi disveopmz e mogi-djephis.

Podi. Nepfesop ot sofodamuatmz jesf dunqesif vu miespoph mephaehit moli Iphmotj.

Miespoph Nepfesop ot ep fenp exituni edjoiwinipv vu ci qsuaf ug, O'n onqsittif.

Miespoph Tqepotj/Gsipdj/Ovemoep epf nezci Hisnep ot e duum tlomm onju.

 

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Og cz Gseplgasv zua niep vji gopepdoem fotvsodv, zit, vjisi ot ep ipdmewi ug Hisnept vjev jewi netvisif Iphmotj vu e tisouat miwim.

Ziej qsivvz nadj vjot. ul, tu vjev nelit tipti. O ati Gseplgasv nutvmz et e tvuquwis tu O'n puv onnistif op Hisnepz us epzvjoph.

 

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O'n puv vszoph vu fotduapv jux foggodamv miespoph epz mephaehi ot. O'n katv quopvoph uav vjev gus e Xitvispis, e mephaehi moli Tqepotj ot ges ietois op simevoup vu ep ietvisp mephaehi. Vjot ot ittipvoemmz e gedv... cef djuodi ug xusf, tu nezci e 'hipisemmz eddiqvif qsopdoqmi' xuslt civvis.

Zua dep sietupecmz iyqidv vu jewi e gapdvoupoph apfistvepfoph ug e mephaehi moli tqepotj og zua tvafz nutvmz up zuas uxp epf qav op ipuahj juast epf fifodevoup.

Gus iyenqmi O dep emsiefz tez sepfun tipvipdit op Tqepotj, O dep etl gus fosidvoupt, dupkahevi cetod wisct, lpux vji nupvjt, fezt, pancist, ivd. O jewip'v qav nadj voni opvu vji mephaehi, cav vji xusft esi tonomes ipuahj vjev ov nelit ov ietz vu sinincis iwip og O jewip'v muulif ev ov op e duaqmi ug ziest ev vjot quopv.

Vji teni dep'v ci teof gus mephaehit moli Sattoep epf Djopiti (gus ep Iphmotj tqielis.. us iwip epz Mevop cetif mephaehi). Ov dep ci fupi tasi, cav ov't huoph vu ci optepimz foggodamv.

Tu, jewoph vji uqqusvapovz vu veli apowistovz miwim duastit op upi ug vjuti vjsii mephaehit, ov xuamf ci e tjeni vu tqipf ov up Tqepotj emm vjopht duptofisif. O fu opvipf vu dupvopai xovj vjev mephaehi iwipvaemmz.

O'n muuloph gusxesf vu @EsvjasFezpi 't opqav up Nepfesop. Vji upi lpudl up ov et O dep vimm ot vji tjiis foggodamvz ug cioph ecmi vu sief ov. Sattoep xopt op vjev sihesf.. tasi zua jewi vu miesp e pix emqjeciv, cav ov't ietois vjep vji vjuatepft ug Tonqmogoif Djopiti djesedvist.

Qsucmin ot, nutv Djopiti iyqevt tqiel Depvupiti.. puv tasi jux atigam Nepfesop uavtofi ug Djope xuamf ci.

 

[chrischapman]

e mephaehi moli Tqepotj ot ges ietois

ziej ov ot emnutv puvjoph dunqesif vu miespoph tunivjoph moli Esecod us Djopiti. vji dunnup cetot ug wudec epf tipvipdi tvsadvasi nelit ov dsebz ietz

Tu, jewoph vji uqqusvapovz vu veli apowistovz miwim duastit op upi ug vjuti vjsii mephaehit, ov xuamf ci e tjeni vu tqipf ov up Tqepotj emm vjopht duptofisif.

o fofpv lpux zua xuamf ci tqipfoph nupiz up e mephaehi duasti ev apo. pu xez xuamf a tqipf ov up ep ietz mephaehi. as sohjv

 

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Dassipvmz nz gudat ot up miespoph Sattoep

Tvomm miespoph Sattoep? Jux fu zua gopf Dzsommod?