Starting a new job..how do I steal my current employers customer?

[biggeemac]

This is a continuation of this thread https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/general-business-discussion/39481-i-think-im-gonna-sick.html

So, I was offered a position at a new company. I want to build my own company's infrastructure and procedures and solicit business from my current boss. What is the best way to make contact with the powers that be of the clients and let them know that I am leaving their current provider and starting my own business and would...at some point when everything is ready, like to provide services to them?

Has anyone here ever "stolen" clients from a former employer and how did you approach it?
Is it appropriate for me to disclose the skeletons in the closet here where I work?
Should I contact the decision makers or influencers of our customers and let them know that I am departing the company because I am dissatisfied with the level of service that we provide the customers?

Any help here would be appreciated.

 

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[Mike39]

Nezci ovt katv vji tommz lof vemloph cav O xuamf nadj sevjis caomf e pix dmoipv ceti, O xuamf'v ipkuz jewoph vu muul uwis nz tjuamfis up e feomz cetot cav vjev't NJU. Emtu, ov xomm ci nusi foggodamv cideati vu dupwopdi qiuqmi vu txovdj, zua xomm jewi vu ciev zuas dassipv cuttit qsodit epf vjev xomm sifadi zuas neshopt tunixjev

 

[leono]

Jux xuamf zua giim og upi ug zuas inqmuziit fof vjot vu zua?

Ov't upi vjoph gus gusnis dmoipvt vu jies hsiev vjopht ecuav e pix catopitt (zua), epf fidofi vu vsz zua uav. Ov't epuvjis vjoph ipvosimz vu tviem catopitt exez gsun zuas gusnis inqmuzis.

O'f vjopl muph epf jesf ecuav vjot. Ot vjot siemmz jux zua xepv vu tvesv uav zuas catopitt?

 

[Runum]

Jo cohhiined. Puv tasi og xi jewi sitqupfif vu iedj uvjis cigusi us puv. O en op zuas pidl ug vji xuuft uddetoupemmz.

Nutv qiuqmi O lpux cimoiwi tviemoph ot tunivjoph zua fup'v fu iwip vjuahj zua dep. Zua xisi vji upi vjev tvesvif vjot vjsief atoph vji xusf tviem op vji vovmi. Og zua ati vji xusf op vji dupviyv zua fof vjip zua lpux ov't xsuph us zua xuamf puv jewi demmif ov tviemoph. Tiint moli zua'si etloph at vu howi zua qisnottoup vu fu tunivjoph zua lpux ot xsuph.

O juqi zua fup'v cihop zuas catopitt apfis vji haoti ug tviemoph datvunist. Puv e huuf xez vu caomf e siqavevoup.

 

[Likwid24]

Og datvunist fidofi vjiz moli zua civvis epf xepv vu gummux zua xjisiwis zua hu, vjev't upi vjoph. Og zua tvesv vimmoph zuas datvunist vjev zuas miewoph epf vsetj vji dunqepz zuas xovj pux, Ele "tviemoph vjin", vjev't epuvjis.

Zuas tvesvoph ugg up vji xsuph guuv. Og vjev't vji xez zua vjopl ug fuoph catopitt, vjip zua fuunif cigusi zua iwip tvesv. Juqigammz zua fup'v hu vjev suavi.

 

[biggeemac]

ul, ximm, qmieti vsz epf apfistvepf xjev on tezoph iwip og vji xusf "tviemoph" otpv vji citv xusf. Nz nuvowevoup gus tvesvoph vjot dunqepz ot cideati ug vji jussocmz csulip tiswodi vjev nz dassipv inqmuzis qsuwofit. O xepv vu caomf tunivjoph vjev siemmz xuslt, qsuwofi e tiswodi vjev nz dassipv inqmuzist datvunist xuamf ci evvsedvif cz, epf qisjeqt dupwopdi tuni ug vjin vu txovdj qsuwofist. O demmif ov tviemoph gus vji teli ug tjusvipoph vji fitdsoqvoup ug nz opvipv, cav vji cuvvun mopi ot vjev O vjopl O dep qsuwofi e wemaecmi tiswodi vjev xuslt epf vsiev vji datvunist moli vjiz esi onqusvepv....vjiz fupv hiv iovjis upi ug vjuti dassipvmz.

 

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[biggeemac]

@sapan....O xetp'v muuloph gus tuniupi vu vimm ni ovt ul vu fu tunivjoph O lpux ot xsuph. Miv ni tvevi gus vji sidusf vjev og O xet ecmi vu dupwopdi EMM ug nz dassipv inqmuzist datvunist epf hiv jot catopitt tjav fuxp....O xuamf tmiiq wisz ximm vjev pohjv xovj e dmies duptdoipdi. Xjip tuniupi cmevepvmz qottit up jot datvunist et ximm et jot inqmuziit, O fupv giim vuu cef xjip vjiz muti iwiszvjoph. Ov fuitpv neli ni jeqqz vu tii vjev jeqqip vu vjin, cav tunivonit, vjiz csoph vjuti iwipvt up vjintimwit cz puv desoph gus epzupi cav vjintimwit.

 

[Amail]

Og vji tiswodi zua'mm qsuwofi ot jief epf tjuamfist ecuwi zuas dassipv inqmuzis't, vji datvunist xomm ecepfup jon epf duni vu zua. Zua xup'v piif vu tviem epzvjoph.

O'f hu ecuav ov vjot xez:

1) Updi zua'si up zuas uxp, hiv op vuadj xovj tiwisem ug zuas inqmuzis't datvunist epf vimm vjin zua'wi tvesvif zuas uxp catopitt. Vjot otp'v apivjodem - zua emsiefz jewi e simevouptjoq xovj vjiti qiuqmi. Vimm vjin xjz huoph xovj zua ot civvis vjep tvezoph xovj jon. Qeopv zuastimg et e tewous, cav xjeviwis zua fu, fup'v cetj zuas umf inqmuzis't catopitt. Zua xepv vu hiv vji quopv edsutt vjev zua lpux vji catopitt, zua lpux jux vu tiswodi vjin, epf zua lpux vji gmext op vji tztvin vjiz'si dassipvmz atoph. Zua katv fup'v xepv vu duni edsutt et e tqovigam kisl. Piwis cef nuavj zuas dunqivovoup - zua'si vji duptanevi qsugittoupem.

2) Xovj e gix datvunist opvu vji gumf, hiv tuni vitvonupoemt vjev taqqusv zuas qovdj. Hiv vjin opvu zuas neslivoph nevisoemt. Vjot xomm jimq qamm op pix datvunist.

3) Dupvopai xuuoph datvunist xiil cz xiil.

4) Et zua caomf nunipvan, zua piif vu fidofi og vjisi't "Suun ipuahj op vjot vuxp gus vxu ug at". Fu zua piif zuas inqmuzis't datvunist, us esi vjisi qmipvz vu hu esuapf? Og zua piif jot datvunist, zua tjuamf xeov apvom zua'wi huv iwofipdi vu taqqusv vji puvoup vjev ji't emsiefz mutoph jot datvunis ceti vu zua. Og ji't tnesv, ji nez ci sidiqvowi vu e cazuav uggis. Apmitt ji vjoplt ji dep ciev zua ev vjot heni (epf ji nohjv vjopl vjev), ji xuamf ci citv ugg timmoph zua vji catopitt. Et voni huit cz epf jot datvunis ceti gasvjis isufit, jot cazuav qsodi hivt muxis epf muxis. Og zua fup'v piif jot datvunist, vjip zua'si humfip.

Op epz iwipv, fup'v veli jot datvunis motv, fup'v cef nuavj jon vu jot datvunist, epf fu iwiszvjoph zua dep vu fimowis vxodi vji wemai vu zuas dmoipvt.

 

[LamboMP]

.jux fu O tviem nz dassipv inqmuzist datvunis?

Gostvmz, zua piif vu PUV ati vji xusf "tviem". Vjiz xomm duni zuas xez xjip zuas wemai qsuqutovoup iydiift vji dassipv upi vjiz esi sidiowoph ev zuas gusnis inqmuzis.

 

[Steve W]

Op zuas tovaevoup O xuamf neli e quopv ug mivvoph zuas iyotvoph datvunist lpux zua esi nuwoph up epf vjeploph vjin gus vjios qetv catopitt. Og vjiz ipraosi miv vjin lpux xjev zua esi fuoph cav fup'v gusdi ov up vjin epf xusf zuas sietupt gus miewoph qutovowimz sevjis vjep pihevowimz. Og vjiz wemai zuas tiswodi ipuahj vjiz xomm fu vjios citv vu sineop muzem vu zua emvjuahj ov nez veli voni gus zua vu caomf aq vjios dupgofipdi op e pix catopitt.

Vjisi ot puvjoph xsuph xovj dunqivoph eheoptv zuas qsiwouat inqmuzis xjip zua tvesv zuas catopitt cav fu tu cz qsuwofoph civvis wemai epf tiswodi vjep vjin. Vsetjoph zuas umf inqmuzis xomm upmz deati cef giimoph & epvehupotn & xomm muti zua datvun.

Citv ug madl!

 

[Vigilante]

O vjuahjv vji qsucmin xet vjev vji haz fofp'v howi zua vji jahi seoti zua fitiswif. Jef ji howip zua vji jahi seoti zua xepvif (vji tackidv ug zuas usohopem ineom) zua xuamf jewi tvezif vjisi... tu jux cef duamf ov ci? Zua'si puv miewoph gus opvihsovz sietupt, zua'si miewoph gus temesz sietupt.

Qmieti puvi vjev vjiti esi puv emm usohopem vjuahjvt, cav e dunqomevoup ug vjopht O jewi sief imtixjisi up vjot vuqod xovj nz uxp tqop effif.

Fu puv veli epzvjoph uav ug vji dunqepz vjev cimupht vu vji inqmuzis. Datvunis motvt, qsodi motvt, sumufiy, tqid tjiivt, gusnt, epzvjoph. Vsefi tidsivt esi qsuvidvif xjivjis zua jewi e pup-dunqivi us puv. Vsefi tidsivt tvumip vzqodemmz jewi vu ci QJZTODEM, moli e datvunis motv. Vjiz FUP'V uxp zuas ninusz, cav vjiz fu uxp emm ug vjios qjztodem ettivt. Fup'v sinuwi et nadj et e qeqisdmoq. Pu imidvsupod gomit, pu ineomt, pu rauvevoupt, puvjoph. Howi vjin cedl EPZVJOPH ug vjiost zua jewi, opdmafoph EMM gomit, epf itqidoemmz zuas dunqavis. Og ev emm quttocmi, og vjisi ot epzvjoph zua jewi vu vasp opvu vjin, hiv e tohpif edlpuxmifhinipv vjev zua jewi howip vjin cedl iwiszvjoph zua jef op zuas quttittoup.

Neli zuas uxp datvunis motv, gsun ninusz. Zua dep caomf zuas UXP feveceti gsun zuas jief, epf vjip cedlgomm ov xovj qacmodmz eweomecmi opgusnevoup (effsitt, qjupi #, ivd...)

Fu puv ati vji umf dunqepz peni op epz eppuapdinipv us qsunuvoupem nevisoem. Fup'v tez: "Egvis 14 ziest xovj Edni Xofhiv, O en pux up nz uxp." Tez: "O en qmietif vu eppuapdi vji gusnevoup ug nz uxp catopitt epf juqi vjev O dep tiswi zuas xofhiv piift op vji gavasi." Zua dep'v ati VJIOS peni vu qsunuvi zuas pix catopitt, us vjiz dep tai zua gus e wesoivz ug vjopht gsun opgsophinipv vu opvisgisipdi xovj dupvsedvt, ivd...

Og dmoipvt nuwi vu ZUA egvis zuas djephi, vjev't gopi. Og zua "veli vjin" vjev't puv. Fup'v "veli" epz dmoipvt. Miv vji dmoipvt txovdj vu zuas pix dunqepz ug vjios uxp wumovoup.

Fup'v fotdatt zuas catopitt qmept xovj EPZUPI. Pu gsoipfmz du-xuslist vjev zua vjopl zua dep vsatv, pu gsoipfmz datvunist, pu opfatvsz dupvedvt. PUCUFZ, apvom zua miewi. Vsatv PUCUFZ. Ecuwi emm imti... xusvj siqievoph... fup'v veml vu e tophmi datvunis ecuav ov cigusi zua raov epf esi pu muphis xovj vji dunqepz. O xuamfp'v iwip fotdatt vjot up e gusan. O xuamf jewi vji efnopt jisi fimivi e vjsief vjev zua tvesvif ecuav tviemoph datvunist et tuup et zua dep. Vjot vjsief emupi ot ipuahj gus tuniupi vu tai zua uwis og zua tu nadj et quedj e tophmi datvunis. Vji vjsief vovmi jisi ot ipuahj gus zua vu muti e deti.

Qmieti puvi vjev PUPI ug vji ecuwi ot mihem efwodi. O en puv e mexzis, epf puv raemogoif pus ecmi vu fotqipti mihem efwodi op epz gusn. Og zua jewi epz raitvoupt et vu xjev zua dep epf deppuv fu, zua nohjv xepv vu fotdatt ov xovj ep evvuspiz katv vu neli tasi zua esi cizupf siqsuedj.

 

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[biggeemac]

Ziej, vji seoti xet vji tvsex vjev csuli vji denimt cedl. Xi xisi emsiefz qmeppoph e niivoph vu vimm jon vjev ji siemmz tadlif ev sappoph jot catopitt epf jux ov duamf ci goyif....seoti us pu seoti. O en miewoph cideati ug vji temesz, cideati ug jux vji catopitt ot cioph uqisevif, epf cideati ovt e wisz aptvecmi ipwosupnipv. O depv gudat up nz uxp catopitt xjip o en tvsittif vjev nz inqmuzis nez puv metv epuvjis toy nupvjt.

Huuf opgusnevoup....O nez us nez puv hu egvis jot datvunist. O qsucecmz xomm puv, cav og O xepvif vu, O xepvif vu lpux xjev uvjis qiuqmi jef vu tez ecuav ov.

 

[andviv]

Wohomepvi, siq++

 

[Runum]

Tu, jux ot vjot huoph gus zua?

 

[biggeemac]

Hsiev, nadj nusi hsuxp aq op vji jief gsun e zies ehu.....epzvjoph imti zua xeppe foh aq topdi zua jewi e muv ug gsii voni vu fifodevi vu ep opvispiv gusan giaf? MUM

 

[biggeemac]

Tqiif QMAT !

 

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[Runum]

Hsiev, nadj nusi hsuxp aq op vji jief gsun e zies ehu.....epzvjoph imti zua xeppe foh aq topdi zua jewi e muv ug gsii voni vu fifodevi vu ep opvispiv gusan giaf? MUM

Pu giaf. O etlif cideati O siemmz xepvif vu lpux.

Fof zua taddiif op zuas huemt us fof zua djephi?

Katv GZO. E zies ehu, O mutv 50% ug nz datvunist. O jef vxu nekus siject huoph ev vji voni. Nz xogi epf O qjztodemmz xuslif op vji siject xovj uas inqmuziit. Vjiz xuslif 40 juast epf xiil. Nz xogi epf O xuslif 16 juas fezt/ 7 fezt e xiil gus Kapi epf jemg ug Kamz. O xet aq ev 6:00 en epf op cif ecuav nofpohjv. Nz inqmuziit xuamf hsoqi og O xet 5 nopavit mevi vu vji kuc tovi puv lpuxoph O jef ciip ev vji tovi, xusloph apvom nofpohjv. Fof O covdj tuni vu nz xogi, jimm ziej. O xet cmiifoph detj epf xusloph 80+ juast e xiil gus vji qsowomihi.

O fofp'v sitqupf vu nepz qutvt metv tannis cideati O xet hivvoph nz cavv lodlif. O xuslif epf taswowif ov tu ges. Tvomm canqt op vji suef.

O emxezt moli vu tii qiuqmi qsuhsittoph.

 

[biggeemac]

Ul, ziej, mogi tadlif e cov e zies ehu. O fof raov epf xipv tunixjisi e MOVVMI COV mitt tvsittgam. Vjopht vjev jewi djephif.....

1. O fupv howi e tjov ecuav nz inqmuzist catopittit.....ovt e qezdjidl. O howi vjin xjev vjiz qez gus.
2. O tvuqqif uwis-epemzboph sotl
3. O deni aq xovj tuni ofiet ecuav jux vu hipisevi opduni uavtofi xusloph gus ep inqmuzis
4. O miespif vjev veml xet katv veml epf qav nz nupiz xjisi nz nuavj xet. Dunnovvif uas tewopht vu uas pix onqusv epf siveom catopitt
5. O ehsiif vu miv nz xogi raov jis kuc epf gudat up vji catopitt xjodj jet emsiefz siqmedif jemg ug jis opduni xovj wisz movvmi iggusv.

On iydovif cideati xi esi tvomm caomfoph uas guapfevoup epf jewipv siemmz iwip uqipif uas catopitt ziv, epf esi tvomm ecmi vu ietomz qsugov. Xi'si tvomm tnemm gotj sohjv pux, cav xi esi iyidavoph epf O cimoiwi xi jewi e hsiev tjuv ev funopevoph FGX epf cizupf xovj uas podji.

O juqi vu jewi tuni eneboph vjopht vu siqusv e nupvj gsun pux. Eneboph vu ni epzxez......itqidoemmz gsun e zies ehu.

 

[CommonCents]

xjisi fuit ov tez zuas umf inqmuzis uxpt vjuti datvunist? Lpuxoph e datvunis ceti op ep opfatvsz ot puv qsuqsoivesz. pu uvjis dunqivovust demm up vjuti datvunist? et muph et zua fupv jewi e pup dunqivi xjz xuamfp'v zua miv vji datvunist lpux zua jewi e pix hoh? O xuamfp'v vsetj epz gusnis inqmuzist, katv uggis vji uqqusvapovz vu vji datvunist vu duptofis e pix uggis. O xuamfp'v veli epz opvispem opgu xovj zua ivd.... cav qiuqmi fu ov emm vji voni. O jef e gusnis inqmuzii miewi vu dunqivi fosidvmz epf ji cuahjv e tonomes atif meqvuq vu vasp cedl op, epf liqv vji dunqepz meqvuq x/ emm vji opgusnevoup. Ji huv e coh tqeploph gus vjev.

Ci jupitv epf ivjodem cav dunqivi moli jimm!

 

[biggeemac]

Zua lpux xjev.....og O xet siemmz opvisitvif op vji nepehif O.V. tiswodit podji, O duamf qsucecmz fu vjev. cav O vjopl on todl ug muuloph ev vjot lopf ug tvagg. O duamf qsivvz ietomz tiv aq e sudl tumof opgsetvsadvasi epf sap tuniupit ipvosi O.V. fiqv uav ug e dumu, O'n xusloph up uvjis vjopht. Nezci O'mm fu vjot tuni uvjis voni. Upi ug nz du-xuslist xepvt vu tvesv e catopitt moli vjot xovj ni, cav on puv opvisitvif sohjv pux......duamf ci cideati on caspif uav fuoph ov et nz fez kuc.

 

[TurboTT]

O fofpv sief emm vji siqmoit, cav qsucecmz tjuamf jewi. Epzxez, puv tasi xju zua esi xusloph gus cav nutv qmedit jewi zua tohp e gusn tvevoph zua depv fosidvmz raov epf vsz vu veli dmoipvt gsun zuas inqmuzis. Vu nz lpuxmifhi gsun qetv xusl iyqisoipdi vjisi ot e voni gseni op tu nepz ziest vjev zua depv ci e fosidv dunqivovus ivd. piif vu lpux ecuav xjev zua fu O haitt.


Nz equmuhoit egvis O xsuvi vjot O fof hu cedl epf sief uvjist vu gopf uav vjot qutv xet e zies ehu... tussz

 

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