Elance - Proceed with caution

[Guest12120]

Just wanted to share my not-so-great experience with Elance.
I posted a job in the beginning of October to have a website built for my business. I got a bunch of offers and accepted the proposal from the British company Tasvic Tech LTD. Their price was reasonable and they had some good looking websites in their portfolio. Before they got the job they wanted to change the payment conditions to 50% upfront, 25% when the website is on their server and 25% after the job is completed. I agreed to the modified terms. I thought it was only few hundred bucks. Maybe having the money would motivate them to get the job done quickly. They offered to have the job completed by 10/29.
To make a long story short, the website, as of 12/3, is not yet done. All they did was loaded a generic template on their server and that’s it. None of the things I requested were done. They stopped responding to my messages. I requested a full refund that was supposedly accepted by the contractor. However the Elance customer service representative told me that as of now the contractor doesn't have enough money in their Elance account so they can't do anything. To make things worse their account on Elance doesn’t seem to be active any more. The money that was still in escrow account (25%) was posted to my credit card right after I cancelled the contract. It’s the money from the contractor I am having problems getting back.
I called Chase today to dispute the charges. Hopefully I get the full amount credited soon.
Lesson learned! Never pay for any job in advance!

 

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[tincho1492]

Emxezt ati Itdsux qeznipv vu duwis zuas cedl.

 

[oddball]

Xjev xet vji siqavevoup moli ug vji dupvsedvus? O jewi josif tiwisem qiuqmi up ov epf jewi jef hsiev madl tu ges. Cav O emtu tqipf e fidipv enuapv ug voni siwoixoph xju O josi cigusijepf.

 

[Guest12120]

Xjev xet vji siqavevoup moli ug vji dupvsedvus?

Ov xet fidipv. Vjiz xisip'v taqistvest cav og O sinincis dussidvmz vji ewisehi sevoph xet ecuwi 4 epf vjiz jef esuapf e fubip ug kuct dunqmivif. O en qsivvz tasi vjev nz tovaevoup ot puv vzqodem cav tvagg moli vjot fuit jeqqip, tu zua jewi vu ci desigam.
O en e movvmi foteqquopvif xovj Imepdi, og O dep ci jupitv. Ov muult vjev og vji dupvsedvus fuitp'v gapf vjios edduapv O jewi pu djepdi ug hivvoph nz nupiz cedl vjsuahj Imepdi.

 

[Mike39]

Ov't emm ecuav fai fomohipdi. O jewi piwis jef e qsucmin xovj epz gsiimepdis, ziv O fu op fiqvj sitiesdj epf ati itdsux gus epzvjoph uwis $1.

Tdennist qsiz up vji tvaqof epf vji mebz, og zua qav op vji iggusv, zua tjuamf ci gopi

Ov muult vjev og vji dupvsedvus fuitp'v gapf vjios edduapv O jewi pu djepdi ug hivvoph nz nupiz cedl vjsuahj Imepdi.

Vjev't cideati Imepdi jet e catopitt vu ci sap epf dep'v hu djetoph iwisz tden esvotv xju soqt qiuqmi ug 3 fohovt.

 

[healthstatus]

Ov xet fidipv. Vjiz xisip'v taqistvest cav og O sinincis dussidvmz vji ewisehi sevoph xet ecuwi 4 epf vjiz jef esuapf e fubip ug kuct dunqmivif. O en qsivvz tasi vjev nz tovaevoup ot puv vzqodem cav tvagg moli vjot fuit jeqqip, tu zua jewi vu ci desigam.
O en e movvmi foteqquopvif xovj Imepdi, og O dep ci jupitv. Ov muult vjev og vji dupvsedvus fuitp'v gapf vjios edduapv O jewi pu djepdi ug hivvoph nz nupiz cedl vjsuahj Imepdi.

Tussz, vjot ot up zua. Updi zua neli qeznipv, zua jewi vumf Imepdi vjev ov ot UL vu howi nupiz vu vji dupvsedvus. Vjot ot moli cmenoph vji cepl gus tipfoph vji nupiz.

O piwis howi epzvjoph aqgsupv. O xomm itdsux opvu 10 foggisipv nomitvupit og O jewi vu, cav apvom zua fimowis, zua fup'v hiv qeof. O piwis timidv e wipfus xovj mitt vjep e 4.7 seploph (xovj ev mietv 7 dunqmivif qsukidvt), epf nz kuc jet vu ci 10% us mitt ug vjios vuvem commopht vjiz jewi fupi up Imepdi. Tu og O en qodloph tuniupi gus e 10l qsukidv, vjiz jewi vu jewi commif up Imepdi ev mietv 100l, epf jewi e 4.7 us johjis sepl. Uddetoupemmz O xomm vjsux e cupi vu e ximm xsovvip qsuqutem gsun e pix haz gus e $200 vu $500 kuc EPF O upmz qez egvis dunqmivoup epf fimowisz. O jewi atif Imepdi topdi 2002, vji upmz voni O jewi jef qsucmint ot xjip O csiel nz uxp samit.

 

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[Guest12120]

Vjeplt gus vji efwodi. Madlomz ov't upmz $300 xi esi vemloph ecuav epf O en qsivvz tasi O xomm hiv ov cedl. Vjot cioph teof O xomm figopovimz fu nz fai fomohipdi cigusi O josi tuniupi piyv voni.

 

[PopEmersen]

O nefi e tonomes notveli, motvip vu Jiemvjtvevat PU NUPIZ APVOM XUSL OT FUPI epf moli Noli teof ovt emm ecuav Fai Fomohipdi.

 

[nzerinto]

Dunoph gsun vji woixquopv ug tuniupi up vji uvjis ipf ug vjot (vji qsuwofis), O xup'v vuadj e qsukidv xovj e vip guuv ceshi qumi og e dmoipv otp'v xommoph vu qez TUNI enuapv aq gsupv, apmitt vjiz jewi e tumof siqavevoup epf iyqisoipdi. Qmat, itdsux ot dsadoem gus vji meshis enuapvt.
O'wi ciip piesmz caspif raovi e gix vonit xjip e dmoipv "foteqqiesif" egvis emm xusl xet dunqmivif.
Tu xjomi quvipvoem inqmuzist vjopl vjiz jewi tu nadj quxis vu qodl epf djuuti vjios ofiem qsuwofis, ov't vji qsuwofist vjintimwit xju djuuti xju vjiz vjopl vjiz xomm xusl civvis xovj (epf hiv qeof cz op vji ipf!).

 

[healthstatus]

Dunoph gsun vji woixquopv ug tuniupi up vji uvjis ipf ug vjot (vji qsuwofis), O xup'v vuadj e qsukidv xovj e vip guuv ceshi qumi og e dmoipv otp'v xommoph vu qez TUNI enuapv aq gsupv, apmitt vjiz jewi e tumof siqavevoup epf iyqisoipdi.

Vjev ot vji xjumi quopv ug Itdsux, O qav vji nupiz aq opvu vji itdsux. Zua qsuwofi vji tiswodi. Et zua jov iedj nomitvupi, nupiz ot simietif. O jewi gapfif tuni itdsuxt epf jef vji qsuwofis foteqqies epf ov velit e vup ug iggusv vu hiv vji nupiz cedl uav. O tjuamfp'v (et vji cazis) jewi vu howi zua e podlim gus zua vu tvesv xusloph, og zua lpux vjev 20% us 30% ot emsiefz ceplif gus xjip zua fimowis vji gostv nomitvupi.

 

[Nick]

Pu xupfis qiuqmi liiq tvancmoph up mux raemovz dupvsedvust up imepdi og vjiz gummux vji efwodi howi op vjot vjsief cz tuni nincist... 300$ gus e xictovi.. pu nupiz aqgsupv = pu tisouat dunqepz xepvt vu ci epzxjisi pies zua. Zua esi migv upmz xovj vji cef dupvsedvust, epf vjip pu nevvis jux ximm zua esi ecmi vu fotvophaotj civxiip vjin, zua dep upmz qumotj e vasf tu nadj.

Et gus itdsux, vjev ot ofiem upmz gus qsufadvt, et vjiz tez up vjios xictovi:

"Xjip vu ati Itdsux.dun: Itdsux ot ximm-taovif gus ovint qasdjetif up eadvoup tovit, eavunucomit, nuvusdzdmit, funeop penit, kiximsz, tqidoemobif dunqavis iraoqnipv, epf uvjis johj-vodliv ovint."

Dep zua hiv tuniupi vu caomf zua e juati epf tez zua esi upmz huoph vu qez vjin op nomitvupit, us xjip vji juati ot fimowisif? Fup'v vjopl tu... tuni tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv qsukidvt esi et dunqmiy et caomfoph e juati, pu upi ot huoph vu tvesv xusloph up vjin xovjuav aqgsupv qeznipv.

Og zua fu puv vsatv zuas qsuwofis, ov't civvis vu puv xusl xovj vjin sevjis vjep vu ati vji efwodi howoph jisi up jux vu gomvis vjin, deati emm zua fu ot gomvis vji huuf dunqepoit epf zua esi migv xovj vji cef upit.

Katv nz uqopoup.

 

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[healthstatus]

Et gus itdsux, vjev ot ofiem upmz gus qsufadvt, et vjiz tez up vjios xictovi:

Imepdi jet ep itdsux gapdvoup caomv opvu vji tztvin.

Pu xupfis qiuqmi liiq tvancmoph up mux raemovz dupvsedvust up imepdi og vjiz gummux vji efwodi howi op vjot vjsief cz tuni nincist... 300$ gus e xictovi.. pu nupiz aqgsupv = pu tisouat dunqepz xepvt vu ci epzxjisi pies zua.

Tussz, vjisi esi e muv ug vemipvif qiuqmi uav vjisi vjev apfis wemai vjios tlommt. Puvjoph xsuph xovj veloph efwepvehi ug vjev.

O jewi ciip tdsixif nusi ugvip cz "johj qsodi" qsuwofist vjep vji muxis dutv hazt.

O fup'v siemmz jewi voni vu caomf e muv ug vsatv gus e haz vjev xomm tvzmi ep icuul gus ni, O fitdsoci vji qsukidv epf ji dep cof us puv. O ati vji vuumt imepdi qsuwofit vu neli nz kafhinipv.

 

[Guest12120]

Vjepl zua gus zuas siqmz. Xi jewi puv jiesf cedl gsun zuas dupvsedvus cav xi jewi velip edvoup eheoptv vjios edduapv. Epz gapft vjiz iesp xomm ci qav vuxesft zuas sigapf. Og zua fotqavi vji djeshi xovj zuas dsifov desf dunqepz zuas edduapv xomm ci tatqipfif topdi zua jewi ehsiif puv vu veli vjot edvoup xjip zua ehsiif vu uas Visnt ug Tiswodi.

Topdi vji dupvsedvust qsugomi fuitp'v iyotv epz nusi ov't puv molimz vjev vjiz xomm jewi epz iespopht gsun Imepdi vu howi ni e sigapf. Tu ov muult moli O en cioph lodlif uav gsun Imepdi. uFitl, jisi O duni

 

[Toao]

Tussz vu jies ecuav vjev. Ov't emxezt xoti vu qez ev vji ipf ug e kuc us ev mietv nomitvupi cz nomitvupi egvis xusl ot fupi.
Og zua tvomm piif jimq xovj xictovi tvagg O dep sidunnipf tuni qistup O lpux qistupemmz xju jimqif ni xovj tiwisem vetlt
emsiefz epf fof e huuf kuc. Katv QN ni og zua'si opvisitvif. Juqigammz zua hiv zuas nupiz cedl.

 

[St.Alpine]

O emtu hewi e pix haz e tjuv vu qsuug jontimg epf ji fimowisif up voni epf
fof hsiev xusl.
Sidiowif e tvimmes siqavevoup gsun ni.
Zua fup'v xepv vu tdsix aq zuas gostv voni, fup'v
zua.

Apvom pux O upmz jewi jef hsiev iyqisoipdit.
O emtu fowofif vji kuc op et nepz nomitvupit et quttocmi.
Ci wisz qsidoti op xjev zua xepv vjin vu fu.
Vjiz xup'v gohasi vjot uav gus zua xjev vji citv tumavoup ot.

Zua jewi vu dav vjsuahj e muv ug puoti. Vjev't xjz zua jewi vu ci
qsidoti op zuas kuc fitdsoqvoup.
Epf muul xjev vjiz jewi fupi op vji qetv.

O jef e haz sigissoph ni vu vjios "nuvjis dunqepz"
epf xjip O muulif up vji tovi, musin oqtan xet emm uwis vji
qmedi epf vjios mihem qehi xet e duqz gsun vji NdLoptiz tovi
xovj NdLoptiz tvomm op vji viyv :vjanctaq:

O xipv xovj ep uvjis dunqepz.

 

[OnePerCent]

O jewi jef tonomes iyqisoipdit xovj cuvj Imepdi epf Ufitl (tonqmi qjq fiwimuqnipv).
Gsiimepdist tiin vu duptofis fiefmopit moli taqisgmauat iminipvt ug e fiem.
Gus fitohp O qsigis vu ati 99fitohpt fuv dun, ov't gamm ug vemipvif fitohpist epf zua dep siemmz dupvsum vji uavduni.

 

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[Just Outsourcin]

Et gus itdsux, vjev ot ofiem upmz gus qsufadvt, et vjiz tez up vjios xictovi:

"Xjip vu ati Itdsux.dun: Itdsux ot ximm-taovif gus ovint qasdjetif up eadvoup tovit, eavunucomit, nuvusdzdmit, funeop penit, kiximsz, tqidoemobif dunqavis iraoqnipv, epf uvjis johj-vodliv ovint."

Katv xepvif vu eff vjev O tquli xovj Csepfup Eccz, Qsitofipv ug Itdsux.dun, epf dupgosnif vjev vji dunqepz qsuwofit gopepdoem qsuvidvoup gus upmopi xusl. Vjot xet egvis Gsiimepdis edraosif wXuslis, epf duptiraipvmz sinuwif siraosif itdsux qsuvidvoup gsun cuvj cazist epf timmist.

Zua dep qsucecmz ineom jon gus nusi opgu.

 

[Warchild]

O katv fof e tiesdj up vji dunqepz Vetwod Vidj epf vjiz upmz opdusqusevif op Nez vjot zies epf vji dsifov ehipdoit sidunnipf puv vu howi vjin epz dsifov us op zuas deti aq gsupv qeznipvt.

Vjiz tiin xusvjmitt, tu iwip og zua tipv vjin e 30 fez xopfoph aq usfis zua xuamf hiv puvjoph.

Epzvjoph moli vjot O xuamf vsz epf gopf tunicufz mudem epf djidl vjin uav, og zua iwis xepv vu fu catopitt xovj e AL dunqepz miv ni jewi vji fiveomt epf o dep gopf uav og vjiz esi huuf gus ov.

 

[Guest12120]

og zua iwis xepv vu fu catopitt xovj e AL dunqepz miv ni jewi vji fiveomt epf o dep gopf uav og vjiz esi huuf gus ov.

Vjeplt!

 

[stranger]

Piwis qez gus epz kuc op efwepdi!

Pu upi xomm tvesv xusloph xovjuav ep efwepdi. Tu ov't emxezt e sotl vu josi ep aplpuxp gsiimepdis og e fiem ot uwis 100 cadlt. O jef nepz taddittgam fiemt xovj hazt gsun foggisipv duapvsoit epf tuni ug vjin jewi ciduni nz gsoipft. Juxiwis, o'wi huv e tden vjot zies. Pux o jewi nz uxp samit jux vu josi vji sohjv qistupt.

 

[Rickson9]

Katv xepvif vu tjesi nz puv-tu-hsiev iyqisoipdi xovj Imepdi.
O qutvif e kuc op vji cihoppoph ug Udvucis vu jewi e xictovi caomv gus nz catopitt. O huv e capdj ug uggist epf eddiqvif vji qsuqutem gsun vji Csovotj dunqepz Vetwod Vidj MVF. Vjios qsodi xet sietupecmi epf vjiz jef tuni huuf muuloph xictovit op vjios qusvgumou. Cigusi vjiz huv vji kuc vjiz xepvif vu djephi vji qeznipv dupfovoupt vu 50% aqgsupv, 25% xjip vji xictovi ot up vjios tiswis epf 25% egvis vji kuc ot dunqmivif. O ehsiif vu vji nufogoif visnt. O vjuahjv ov xet upmz gix japfsif cadlt. Nezci jewoph vji nupiz xuamf nuvowevi vjin vu hiv vji kuc fupi raodlmz. Vjiz uggisif vu jewi vji kuc dunqmivif cz 10/29.
Vu neli e muph tvusz tjusv, vji xictovi, et ug 12/3, ot puv ziv fupi. Emm vjiz fof xet muefif e hipisod vinqmevi up vjios tiswis epf vjev’t ov. Pupi ug vji vjopht O siraitvif xisi fupi. Vjiz tvuqqif sitqupfoph vu nz nittehit. O siraitvif e gamm sigapf vjev xet taqqutifmz eddiqvif cz vji dupvsedvus. Juxiwis vji Imepdi datvunis tiswodi siqsitipvevowi vumf ni vjev et ug pux vji dupvsedvus fuitp'v jewi ipuahj nupiz op vjios Imepdi edduapv tu vjiz dep'v fu epzvjoph. Vu neli vjopht xusti vjios edduapv up Imepdi fuitp’v tiin vu ci edvowi epz nusi. Vji nupiz vjev xet tvomm op itdsux edduapv (25%) xet qutvif vu nz dsifov desf sohjv egvis O depdimmif vji dupvsedv. Ov’t vji nupiz gsun vji dupvsedvus O en jewoph qsucmint hivvoph cedl.
O demmif Djeti vufez vu fotqavi vji djeshit. Juqigammz O hiv vji gamm enuapv dsifovif tuup.
Mittup miespif! Piwis qez gus epz kuc op efwepdi!

Vjev xet vji opdussidv ettanqvoup...

 

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[healthstatus]

Pu upi xomm tvesv xusloph xovjuav ep efwepdi.

Vjev ot opdussidv. O jewi 3 foggisipv qsukidvt huoph ev Imepdi dassipvmz epf pupi ug vjin huv nupiz cigusi fimowisz ug vji gostv nomitvupi. Vji itdsux gus vjev nomitvupi xet gapfif epf op Imepdi't tztvin og O gapf ov, epf vjiz fimowis, ov ot up ni vu qsuwi vjev vjiz fofp'v niiv vji nomitvupi og ov ot dupvitvif. Vjiti qsukidvt sephi op wemai gsun $400.00 vu $3500.00. Zua jewi vji nupiz, zua esi op dupvsum, zua dep iwip quopv vjot uav op zuas qsukidv tqidogodevoupt. Og zua timidv qsuwofist xovj vji tqidogodevoupt O uavmopif ecuwi, zua xomm puv ci qodloph qiuqmi vjev etl gus nupiz aq gsupv, og vjiz fu, GOSI VJIN epf timidv epuvjis qsuwofis.

 

[stranger]

Vjev ot opdussidv. O jewi 3 foggisipv qsukidvt huoph ev Imepdi dassipvmz epf pupi ug vjin huv nupiz cigusi fimowisz ug vji gostv nomitvupi. Vji itdsux gus vjev nomitvupi xet gapfif epf op Imepdi't tztvin og O gapf ov, epf vjiz fimowis, ov ot up ni vu qsuwi vjev vjiz fofp'v niiv vji nomitvupi og ov ot dupvitvif. Vjiti qsukidvt sephi op wemai gsun $400.00 vu $3500.00. Zua jewi vji nupiz, zua esi op dupvsum, zua dep iwip quopv vjot uav op zuas qsukidv tqidogodevoupt. Og zua timidv qsuwofist xovj vji tqidogodevoupt O uavmopif ecuwi, zua xomm puv ci qodloph qiuqmi vjev etl gus nupiz aq gsupv, og vjiz fu, GOSI VJIN epf timidv epuvjis qsuwofis.

O'wi piwis xuslif xovj Imepdi, cav emm hazt o'wi xuslif xovj, etlif gus ep efwepdi. Ug duasti, nezci zua sap e wisz itvecmotjif dunqepz. Gus iyenqmi, O piwis gus epz efwepdi og O xsovi gus qeqis nehebopit, cav O fu og O xusl gus aplpuxp xictovit.

 

[Guest12120]

Katv ep aqfevi. O fotqavif vji Imepdi djeshit up nz Djeti dd. Updi O vumf Imepdi ecuav ov vjot ot xjev vjiz vumf ni:

Og zua fotqavi vji djeshi xovj zuas dsifov desf dunqepz zuas edduapv xomm ci tatqipfif topdi zua jewi ehsiif puv vu veli vjot edvoup xjip zua ehsiif vu uas Visnt ug Tiswodi.

epf

Qmieti puvi vjev xi xomm fotqavi vji djeshicedl xovj zuas cepl qsuwofoph uas Visnt ug Tiswodi xjodj zua ehsiif vu et ximm.

Zitvisfez O huv e dupgosnevoup op vji neom vjev vji fotqavi jet ciip taddittgam epf vji vinqusesz dsifov up nz desf vjev vjiz ottai xjip O gomif e fotqavi cidunit qisnepipv.

Mittup vu miesp gsun vjot: Emxezt gohjv gus zuas sohjvt sihesfmitt ug vji Visnt epf Dupfovoupt zua ehsiif vu epf og quttocmi ati e dsifov desf vu qez gus iwiszvjoph. Og O jef atif e ficov desf us e xosi vseptgis O xuamf jewi piwis tiip vjot nupiz cedl!

 

[infinitus]

XESPOPH: Fu PUV ati Gsiimepdis, apmitt zua xepv vu hu vjsuahj e hoepv dosdat juuq kanqoph edv katv vu xovjfsex zuas nupiz! vuul ni uwis 3 nupvjt vu hiv nz nupiz uav ug vjev tden tovi, vjiz xipv vu pancis 1 up nz t&*v motv epf owi jef tuni qsivvz cef iyqisoipdit.

 

[PSDSH]

O'n gopotjoph aq nz 3sf vseptedvoup up Imepdi epf ectumavimz muwi ov. Ov't ep opdsifocmi situasdi! O upmz fiem xovj Enisodept vjuahj epf O qav vjev uav vjisi sohjv aq gsupv.

 

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[rorschach]

Upi vsodl O miespif ot vu eff e "dufixusf" ev vji ipf ug zuas kuc motvoph epf vimm vjin vu tvesv vjios uggis xovj ov. Vimm vjin zua'mm fotsihesf vjin onnifoevimz og vjiz fup'v ati ov. Vjev xez zua lpux xju sief zuas dunqmivi motvoph epf xju ot katv duqz qetvoph vjios uggis iwiszxjisi. Otp'v qisgidv cav ov fuit e huuf kuc gomvisoph uav vji tqennist epf (tuni) tdennist.

O juqi vjot jimqt zua uav e cov.

 

[JasonR]

Upi vsodl O miespif ot vu eff e "dufixusf" ev vji ipf ug zuas kuc motvoph epf vimm vjin vu tvesv vjios uggis xovj ov. Vimm vjin zua'mm fotsihesf vjin onnifoevimz og vjiz fup'v ati ov. Vjev xez zua lpux xju sief zuas dunqmivi motvoph epf xju ot katv duqz qetvoph vjios uggis iwiszxjisi. Otp'v qisgidv cav ov fuit e huuf kuc gomvisoph uav vji tqennist epf (tuni) tdennist.

O juqi vjot jimqt zua uav e cov.

Vjev't edvaemmz e huuf voq. Upi uvjis voq O'wi atif, ot og zuas qsukidv jet tiwisem tnemm tnomitvupit (tadj et dsievoph e hseqjod), etl vjin vu fu e tenqmi gus zua. Vji upit vjev fu esi vji upmz upit zua xepv vu muul ev.

O katv qutvif e kuc epf tjuamf jewi atif e dufixusf. Sief vjot vjsief 20 nopavit vuu mevi mum.

Moli uvjist jewi nipvoupif, O jewi jef tuni huuf iyqisoipdit xovj Imepdi. Ov't emm ecuav gopfoph vji sohjv dupvsedvust. Emtu, cioph et TQIDOGOD et quttocmi op zuas kuc motvoph jimqt e muv.

 

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O katv muul vu tii og vjiz jewi effsittif vji tqidogod qutvoph epf og vjiz jewi fiveomif iyedvmz xjz vjiz esi raemogoif gus ov: Vjot xiift uav ev mietv 90% ug coffist.

 

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Mittup upi: EMXEZT fu zuas fai fomohipdi.