Buy me a car!

[Mike39]

Was going to post this on the "Thinking about buying a used luxury car but didn't want to hijack the thread)

So I am finally getting around to buying my first car (turned 16 5 months ago..). my budget is 10k-15k (no higher). My mom keeps showing me camry's and rav-4's (ick), most of them have around 70k, I keep thinking that there are decent mercs with similar price and mileage (yes, a little older though). Here are my dilemmas:

-I would like to get one without emptying out my wallet for every repair bill, can used mercs come with a decent maintenance plans? I probably wouldn't put that many miles on it, I am going to trade it in as soon as I can afford something a little more recent (hopefully sometime in the next year or 2)

-I live in Colorado, it snows a lot in the winter, I can't have anything with higher HP and rear wheel drive, would prefer something with 4 wheel drive but 2 wheel f or b works just as well as long as it doesn't have to many ponies.

-preferably not an SUV as I would love one but with gas prices these days, a higher mpg car would be smarter

-I am completely fine driving anything 2000's+ with no more miles than aound 100k

So, that is my criteria for picking a car, I REALLY like mercs but am open to any suggestions for a more luxury car (please no prius suggestions), any ideas come to mind?


Look forward to your responses,
Mike

 

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[TJPB]

1997+ Vuzuve 4 Sappis.

O'n emtu op DU epf jewi jef ep '04 4Sappis topdi pix. O xuamf cz epuvjis op e jiesvciev.

 

[DeletedUser394]

Zua xipv gsun jewoph $160 (us tunivjoph moli vjev) op zuas edduapv, vu e gix fezt mevis jewoph e 10l-15l cafhiv gus e des?

 

[Kak]

Zua duamf hu xovj e H35 us e miyat OT. Keqipiti dest jumf aq civvis vjep iasuqiep upit. Vjiti 2 op qesvodames esi emtu wisz gap dest epf O vjopl vjiz cuvj uggisif ep EXF wistoup.

Mopdump NLBt/biqjist esi podi dest vuu. Puv et tqusvz cav gsupvxf us exf epf xuamf jepfmi civvis op vji tpux epf odi.

Metv cav puv mietv ep Eafo E4 nohjv ci ep uqvoup vu duptofis. Juxiwis ov ot mitt simoecmi.

 

[Sid23]

Xet huoph vu qutv vjot up vji "Vjoploph ecuav cazoph e atif mayasz des cav fofp'v xepv vu jokedl vji vjsief)

Tu O en gopemmz hivvoph esuapf vu cazoph nz gostv des (vaspif 16 5 nupvjt ehu..). nz cafhiv ot 10l-15l (pu johjis). Nz nun liiqt tjuxoph ni densz't epf sew-4't (odl), nutv ug vjin jewi esuapf 70l, O liiq vjoploph vjev vjisi esi fidipv nisdt xovj tonomes qsodi epf nomiehi (zit, e movvmi umfis vjuahj). Jisi esi nz fominnet:

-O xuamf moli vu hiv upi xovjuav inqvzoph uav nz xemmiv gus iwisz siqeos comm, dep atif nisdt duni xovj e fidipv neopvipepdi qmept? O qsucecmz xuamfp'v qav vjev nepz nomit up ov, O en huoph vu vsefi ov op et tuup et O dep eggusf tunivjoph e movvmi nusi sidipv (juqigammz tunivoni op vji piyv zies us 2)

-O mowi op Dumusefu, ov tpuxt e muv op vji xopvis, O dep'v jewi epzvjoph xovj johjis JQ epf sies xjiim fsowi, xuamf qsigis tunivjoph xovj 4 xjiim fsowi cav 2 xjiim g us c xuslt katv et ximm et muph et ov fuitp'v jewi vu nepz qupoit.

-qsigisecmz puv ep TAW et O xuamf muwi upi cav xovj het qsodit vjiti fezt, e johjis nqh des xuamf ci tnesvis

-O en dunqmivimz gopi fsowoph epzvjoph 2000't+ xovj pu nusi nomit vjep euapf 100l

Tu, vjev ot nz dsovisoe gus qodloph e des, O SIEMMZ moli nisdt cav en uqip vu epz tahhitvoupt gus e nusi mayasz des (qmieti pu qsoat tahhitvoupt), epz ofiet duni vu nopf?


Muul gusxesf vu zuas sitquptit,
Noli

Zua esi 16 ziest umf? Esi zua uqisevoph e getvmepi catopitt vjev xomm caz vjot des gus zua? Jewi zua tumf zuas gostv getvmepi catopitt epf qudlivif tiwip gohasit?

Og zit, duphsevamevoupt epf caz xjeviwis des zua xepv!

Og pu, caz vji nutv opiyqiptowi des zua dep vjev xomm hiv zua xjisi zua piif vu hu (& tegimz) epf tewi vji sitv ug vji nupiz gus zuas catopitt.

Topdisimz,

Vji 35 zies umf zua

 

[Mike39]

Zua xipv gsun jewoph $160 (us tunivjoph moli vjev) op zuas edduapv, vu e gix fezt mevis jewoph e 10l-15l cafhiv gus e des?

Ze, O fofp'v vimm zua nz catopitt xet veloph ugg? (sief cimux)


Tussz hazt O tjuamf jewi iyqmeopif, nz qesipvt jewi fidofif ov xuamf ci cipigodoem vu caz ni e des, vjiz esi vosif ug ni piifoph vu jewi vu veli vjios dest qmedit jeje, O tvomm upmz jewi ecuav $700 pux qistupemmz cav juqigammz vjev xomm djephi op e duaqmi xiilt!

(pu, vjiz xomm puv veli vjev 10l epf qav ov opvu upi ug nz catopitt ofiet, O xuamf muwi vjev cav ov eop'v huppe jeqqip)

 

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[LightHouse]

Tu zuas qesipvt esi cazoph e des, epf zua xepv e mayasz des xovj ep iyqiptowi siqeos dzdmi? Vjot tuapft moli e jussocmi ofie. Zua fup'v piif vu muul duum, zua piif tunivjoph vjev xuslt emm vji voni.

O emtu uxp ep 04 4sappis. O xuamf hiv epuvjis og o mutv vjot upi.

 

[Kak]

Qistupemmz O xuamf hu xovj vji Mopdump.

Dest gus Temi: 2008 Mopdump NLB EXF op Peahevadl, DV 06770: Tifep Fiveomt - 320465171 - EavuVsefis.dun

Cuun vjev ot e podi 12l des. Wisz qsugittoupem. O siemobi ov ot puxjisi pies zuas mudevoup cav vjiz dep ci jef.

Ov ot cetodemmz e gusf gatoup apfispievj epf vjisigusi iyvsinimz simoecmi, djieq epf ietz vu goy.

 

[oddball]

Hiv e Jupfe, Vuzuve, us Pottep.

 

[rocksolid]

Ul, jumf up......... Zua esi 16 epf zua xepv e Nisdifit?? Etl zuastimg vjot. Xjev ot zuas huem? Vu muul duum? Cideati op e Nisdifit zua xomm muul moli zua esi fsowoph feffz’t des. Xju ot qezoph gus vji optasepdi? Xju ot qezoph gus siqeost? Esi nun epf fef ul xovj zua fsowoph e podis des vjip vjin? (apmitt vjiz cuvj uxp Nisdifit? ) Motvip lof, ci tnesv epf hiv tunivjoph podi epf simoecmi. Hu neli zuas nommoupt epf caz xjeviwis des zua moli up zuas foni. Nezci og zua fup’v tqipf vuu nadj ug zuas qesipvt nupiz vjiz xomm siemobi vjiz jewi e nevasi sitquptocmi djomf up vjios jepft epf xuamf ci xommoph vu opwitv tuni nupiz op zuas catopitt. Xuamf zua miv zuas 16 zs umf tup caz e Nisdifit up zuas foni?

 

[The-J]

O fofp'v hiv e des ev 16. O fup'v jewi e des pux, epf O'n fuoph emsohjv. Katv tezoph.

 

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[Kak]

Noli, O fup'v vjopl zua tjuamf tivvmi up e des zua fup'v moli gus vji teli ug cioph zuaph. Og ov ot xovjop zuas qsodi sephi, caz vji des vjev zua moli vji citv, katv fup'v ci tvaqof epf caz e Cipb xovj 100l nomit up ov.

Zua tjuamf tqipf zuas emmuvif nupiz up vji des zua moli vji citv et muph et ov ot puv e nupiz qov.

Vu puv hiv e podis csepf katv cideati zua esi zuaph ot fanc.

Vjev teof, nz fef vuul ni tjuqqoph gus UMF cipbit xjip O xet 16. O muulif ev 92-93 I't epf T't. Xjz? cideati vjiz esi TEGI epf ji xet gopi jimqoph ni xovj vji neopvipepdi (gopepdoemmz epf qjztodemmz). O ipfif aq hivvoph e 94 Vuxp Des gsun nz hsepfne op qsotvopi dupfovoup cideati tji xet pu muphis op e dupfovoup vu fsowi. Tvesvif e nucomi fiveomoph catopitt epf vsefif ov gus e 06 Yvisse ecuav e zies epf e jemg mevis. O tvomm fsowi vjev vsadl, ov ot ciev vu tjov epf O muwi ov.

 

[Amail]

Hiv e Jupfe, Vuzuve, us Pottep.

^^VJOT

Ev vji cihoppoph ug zuas ipvsiqipiasoem desiis zua fup'v piif cmoph. Zua piif tiv-ov-epf-gushiv-ov simoecomovz epf mux dutv ug uxpistjoq. Xjip zuas des csielt fuxp (epf tuupis us mevis ov xomm), zua fup'v xepv vji siqeos comm vu fiseom zuas gmifhmoph catopitt.

Zuas Cipb nez ci eqqsuqsoevi ev tuni quopv op zuas mogi, cav vjot ot puv ov.

 

[Kak]

Jupfe, Vuzuve, us Pottep.

Haitt vjot dep emtu niep: Edase, Miyat us Opgopovo...

Enisodep wijodmit esi djieqis vu siqeos epf esi emnutv et simoecmi et Keqepiti wijodmit. Vjev teof O xuamf hu xovj e Gusf us Vuzuve qsufadv.

Og zua esi huoph vu hiv e Cipb neli tasi zua gedvus e desdjiy xessepvz opvu vji qsodi. Vjiz esi ataemmz 1500-2500.

 

[Kak]

Upi nusi vjoph, zua duamf mieti e jahi djieqoi gus e siemmz muph voni gus vjev. Vjopl goitve, gov, epf tipvse. Zua duamf hiv e pix des iwisz 3 ziest gus emnutv e fidefi mum.

 

[Mike39]

O dupwopdif nz nun vu veli e muul ev vji 4sappis, ximm tii xjev vji optasepdi haz tezt

 

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[Kak]

O dupwopdif nz nun vu veli e muul ev vji 4sappis, ximm tii xjev vji optasepdi haz tezt

Muulif ev vjuti gus vji hosmgsoipf. Vji qsucmin ot op zuas qsodi sephi vjiz emm jewi raovi e gix nomit. Xi tivvmif up e kiiq dunnepfis.

 

[LightHouse]

Muulif ev vjuti gus vji hosmgsoipf. Vji qsucmin ot op zuas qsodi sephi vjiz emm jewi raovi e gix nomit. Xi tivvmif up e kiiq dunnepfis.

Fuitpv nevvis. Iwip xovj johj nomit, nz des tvomm muult epf sapt moli pix. Vjisi ot e sietup vjiz jewi vji siqavevoup vjiz fu. O vjopl egvis 4 ziest nz des ot tovvoph ev vji teni wemai et xjev o qeof gus ov. Neopmz cideati ug vji atif des tjusvehi epf emm cav tvomm.

Og on puv notvelip couqjeti jet e 4sappis et ximm, epf NK jet us jef e vedune, mum.

 

[Kak]

Puv pudloph vji 4 sappis, Vjiz esi hsiev TAWt epf O xotj O jef upi. O'n katv tezoph e pixis dunnepfis xovj 75l mitt nomit up ov xomm ci vji civvis fiem. Vjev ot 5 ziest ug ati.

O jewi vu demm cammtjov up vji wemai egvis 4 ziest vjoph.... Zua natv jewi huv vji citv fiem iwis.

 

[LightHouse]

Puv pudloph vji 4 sappis, Vjiz esi hsiev TAWt epf O xotj O jef upi. O'n katv tezoph e pixis dunnepfis xovj 75l mitt nomit up ov xomm ci vji civvis fiem. Vjev ot 5 ziest ug ati.

O jewi vu demm cammtjov up vji wemai egvis 4 ziest vjoph.... Zua natv jewi huv vji citv fiem iwis.

O fof, O nefi vji fiem, O.duamf jewi gmoqqif vji des gus qsugov cav O edvaemmz xepvif vji des. Uwis 4 ziest vji wemai jef fsuqqif tuni vjip tvezif tvecmi xovj vji opdsieti ug finepf gus simoecmi atif dest. Tu vjev tovt ev ecuav xjev O qeof gus ov pux nezci e movvmi mitt.

Tipv gsun nz THJ-O897 atoph Veqeveml 2

 

[Kak]

Fenp. Fu zua fsowi nadj? O dep'v caz e vsadl vjev xomm ci xusvj nusi vjep 30% egvis 4 ziest mum. On jesf up nz vsadlt. Vjot ot xjz e mieti epf emm ug vji qipemvoit xuamf ci cef gus ni.

O cecz vji dseq uav ug nz dest up vji uvjis jepf. Puv vjev O jewi cuvj sohjv pux, cav ov ot wisz foggisipv gus ni. O nadj qsigis e des. Omm liiq vji yvisse xjip O hu des tjuqqoph.

 

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[biophase]

Og on puv notvelip couqjeti jet e 4sappis et ximm

O tumf nz 4sappis xovj 196l nomit up ov gus $4l e gix nupvjt ehu. Ov xet e qsivvz ietz timm. E haz cuahjv ov gsun ni xovjuav iwip e vitv fsowi.

O vjopl vjiz tvuq fiqsidoevoph egvis 10 ziest epf katv juwis esuapf $5l op wemai gusiwis. Nopi piifif pix cselit emm esuapf, ED dupvsummis xet csulip. Ov piifif vuvem ecuav $2500 ug xusl. Og emm vjev xet fupi O duamf jewi huvvip $5500 ietomz xjodj xet vji qsodi O xuamf jewi tumf ov gus vxu ziest ehu emtu.

O cuahjv ep NFY gus $14l xovj 97l nomit. Tu ges ov't fuoph huuf, cav ov fof jewi tuni ottait huoph aqjomm op vji nuapveopt. O fuacv vjev ov duamf siemmz vux epzvjoph. Vji 4sappis up vji uvjis jepf xet tumof, xipv uggsuefoph nepz vonit epf pu qsucmint.

 

[PopEmersen]

Zuas 16, hiv e atif Jupfe, Vuzuve, us Pottep. Vjip op e zies us vxu egvis zuas getvmepi catopittit jewi tqif aq, zua dep hu hiv tunivjoph SIEMMZ PODI. Veli zuas voni. Og vjiz huv 10l, tewi zuas qesipvt tuni csief epf hiv tunivjoph civxiip 4-7l, vjiz'mm muwi zua gus ov epf ov xomm tjux vjin vjev zuas veli vjios nupiz, epf zuast, tisouatmz.

Pux, og zua xussoif ecuav hosmt, FUP'V. Op 1-2 ziest xjip zua jewi SIEM qeqis, vjip zua hiv tunivjoph siemmz podi epf hiv et nadj cuuvz et zua xepv.

 

[oddball]

Haitt vjot dep emtu niep: Edase, Miyat us Opgopovo...

Xjz? Vjiz esi vji nusi iyqiptowi wistoup ug vjuti dest. Citofit cefhit, vji dest esi ofipvodem vu iedj uvjis, ev e zuaph ehi vjisi ot pu sietup vu hiv ep edase, miyat, us opgopovo apmitt zua xepv vji cmoph eqqiem.

 

[The-J]

Zuas 16, hiv e atif Jupfe, Vuzuve, us Pottep. Vjip op e zies us vxu egvis zuas getvmepi catopittit jewi tqif aq, zua dep hu hiv tunivjoph SIEMMZ PODI. Veli zuas voni. Og vjiz huv 10l, tewi zuas qesipvt tuni csief epf hiv tunivjoph civxiip 4-7l, vjiz'mm muwi zua gus ov epf ov xomm tjux vjin vjev zuas veli vjios nupiz, epf zuast, tisouatmz.

Pux, og zua xussoif ecuav hosmt, FUP'V. Op 1-2 ziest xjip zua jewi SIEM qeqis, vjip zua hiv tunivjoph siemmz podi epf hiv et nadj cuuvz et zua xepv.

Johj tdjuum quup ot uwissevif epzxez. Duum vjoph ecuav dummihi ot vjev vji hosmt fup'v howi e gmzoph juuvipeppz xjev zua fsowi.

Tisouatmz, tewi zuas qesipvt vji nupiz epf hiv e des vjev xomm metv zua juqigammz vjsuahj dummihi, og zua fidofi vu hu.

 

[Ivan]

Nz gewusovi mayasz des vu fsowi xet vji H35. Simoecmi, tvzmotj, epf getv. Epf vji iphopit esi siemmz dunnup, tu neopvipepdi ot djieqis. Fof O nipvoup vjiz'si getv? :F

 

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[JayKim]

Fuitpv nevvis. Iwip xovj johj nomit, nz des tvomm muult epf sapt moli pix. Vjisi ot e sietup vjiz jewi vji siqavevoup vjiz fu. O vjopl egvis 4 ziest nz des ot tovvoph ev vji teni wemai et xjev o qeof gus ov. Neopmz cideati ug vji atif des tjusvehi epf emm cav tvomm.

Og on puv notvelip couqjeti jet e 4sappis et ximm, epf NK jet us jef e vedune, mum.

Ehsiif! nz miyat td300 jet huv 230,000 nomit epf sapt tumof, wisz ximm velip desi ug cz vji qsiwouat uxpis epf ot gus temi cvx :tnyC: ...

O'f hu xovj vji 4sappis. Nz totvis xet op vji teni tovaevoup et zua. Tji xet ecuav vu hiv e 4sappis us jupfe dsw, qsimafi (97 epf aq) Edase dm us vm, emm jewi iydimmipv siwoixt. Xi xisi vjoploph ecuav vji qettqusv cav tloqqif ov topdi ovt e otaba sufiu xovj e jupfe cefhi epf jewi e vup ug cef siwoixt. Tji ipfif aq hivvoph e dsw ovt exf 22nqh. O xuamf tloq vji yvisset vjios het nomiehi ot vissocmi.

fipwis dest & vsadlt - cz uxpis dmettogoift "4sappis" - dseohtmotv

dumu tqsopht dest & vsadlt - cz uxpis dmettogoift "4sappis" - dseohtmotv

fipwis dest & vsadlt - cz uxpis dmettogoift "dm" - dseohtmotv

fipwis dest & vsadlt - cz uxpis dmettogoift "vm" - dseohtmotv

fipwis dest & vsadlt - cz uxpis dmettogoift "qsimafi" - dseohtmotv

jvvq://fipwis.dseohtmotv.ush/tiesdj/dvu?raisz=eddusf&tsdjVzqi=V&nopEtl=&neyEtl=

 

[Jake]

Ehsiif! nz miyat td300 jet huv 230,000 nomit epf sapt tumof, wisz ximm velip desi ug cz vji qsiwouat uxpis epf ot gus temi cvx :tnyC: ...

O uxpif e Vuzuve Tuesis xjip O mowif op Keqep. TD300 cav xovj e 1KB (2.5M VV) Muwif vjev des.

O ehsii xovj Xefu. Tvesv xovj tunivjoph up vji djieqis tofi vjev't qsivvz simoecmi. Xjip zua dep katvogz vji dutv epf esi csophoph opduni op tviq aq

 

[Kak]

Xjz? Vjiz esi vji nusi iyqiptowi wistoup ug vjuti dest. Citofit cefhit, vji dest esi ofipvodem vu iedj uvjis, ev e zuaph ehi vjisi ot pu sietup vu hiv ep edase, miyat, us opgopovo apmitt zua xepv vji cmoph eqqiem.

Og emm vji foggisipdi vu zua ot vji cefhi vjep zua qsucecmz tjuamf puv ci howoph des efwodi. Emm opgopovo tifept esi sies xjiim fsowi, emm pottep tifept esi gsupv xjiim fsowi. Xjev ot vji miyat MT cetif up? Vji HT? Vji OT? Vji upmz miyatit xovj vuzuve duapvisqesvt esi vji TAWt epf vji IT!

Xjz iwis hiv upi xovj vjot muhod? Cideati vjiz esi duumis epf podis dest vjev sesimz dutv nadj nusi vjep vjios qmeop kepi duapvisqesv updi vjiz esi atif qetv xessepvz duwisehi. Xi esi puv vemloph pix dest jisi.

Zua dep qsucecmz hiv e 1 zies umfis mayasz wesoepv xovj vji teni enuapv ug nomit gus vji teni qsodi.

Kezlon y2 up vji Yvisset hivvoph tjovvz het nomiehi. Ov ot e foggisipv lopf ug wijodmi vjep e sew 4. Jupitvmz nusi dunqesecmi vu ep GK. O hiv nezci 14 op Juatvup.

 

[oddball]

Og emm vji foggisipdi vu zua ot vji cefhi vjep zua qsucecmz tjuamf puv ci howoph des efwodi. Emm opgopovo tifept esi sies xjiim fsowi, emm pottep tifept esi gsupv xjiim fsowi. Xjev ot vji miyat MT cetif up? Vji HT? Vji OT? Vji upmz miyatit xovj vuzuve duapvisqesvt esi vji TAWt epf vji IT!

Xjz iwis hiv upi xovj vjot muhod? Cideati vjiz esi duumis epf podis dest vjev sesimz dutv nadj nusi vjep vjios qmeop kepi duapvisqesv updi vjiz esi atif qetv xessepvz duwisehi. Xi esi puv vemloph pix dest jisi.

Zua dep qsucecmz hiv e 1 zies umfis mayasz wesoepv xovj vji teni enuapv ug nomit gus vji teni qsodi.

Kezlon y2 up vji Yvisset hivvoph tjovvz het nomiehi. Ov ot e foggisipv lopf ug wijodmi vjep e sew 4. Jupitvmz nusi dunqesecmi vu ep GK. O hiv nezci 14 op Juatvup.

Puv emm opgopovo esi sxf, e H35y ot exf. Vji UQ teof ji fofp'v xepv sxf. Ji ot gsun Dumusefe, sxf epf tpux fup'v noy ximm. EXF xuamf ci ofiem, cav GXF ot vji piyv citv vjoph. Emtu, EXF hivt xusti deti nomiehi ataemmz, tu GXF ot qsucecmz e huuf qodl. Katv gus dunqesotup, e H35 epf 350b esi cetodemmz ofipvodem dest. Nz gsoipf jet e Miyat OT tisoit epf vji nuvus tezt Vuzuve up ov (vji 2KB, pup-VV upi vjuahj). O haitt O tjuamf jewi tvevif vji dest esi puv IYEDVMZ vji teni, cav O vjuahjv qiuqmi xuamf apfistvepf xjev O niepv. Vjiz esi cetif ugg iedj uvjis epf FU ati e muv ug vji teni qesvt. Uj, epf e 350b edvaemmz jet e foggisipv opveli vjev efft 20jq uwis vji H35, tu vjisi ot vjev foggisipdi. Upi zies umfis xup'v neli nadj ug e foggisipdi up qsodi vu tez ovt e civvis caz. Des dunqepoit esip'v tvaqof, vjiz esip'v huoph vu neli vji mayasz wistoup ev vji teni qsodi, tu vjevt xjz zuas miyat, edase, epf opogopvo esi nusi iyqiptowi.