How do I find a Mentor?

[Karl]

Hi Gymjunkie,

what kind of programm is it you need the mentor for? Depends on what you are going to do.
In each case it is important to have an experienced person, who made several experiences in different areas.
Wish you luck...

Note: Don't forget to get sure whether he has a work permit, if he joins your business.

 

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[Gymjunkie]

Hi Gymjunkie,

what kind of programm is it you need the mentor for? Depends on what you are going to do.
In each case it is important to have an experienced person, who made several experiences in different areas.
Wish you luck...

Note: Don't forget to get sure whether he has a work permit, if he joins your business.

One is in music industry, where we help musicians get known (kind of a record label) and other is an email newsletter business in fitness industry..
I'm looking for people with experience and tech knowledge..

Cheers

 

[TaxGuy]

One is in music industry, where we help musicians get known (kind of a record label)

How about helping authors get known, like that guy who wrote "The Millionaire Fastlane ". I'm sure he'd appreciate some help in selling more books

 

[Gymjunkie]

How about helping authors get known, like that guy who wrote "The Millionaire Fastlane ". I'm sure he'd appreciate some help in selling more books

Well, not a Marketing Jenius yet! Just experienced a lil. Might help but not sure how to approach it.

IF he even needs help...

 

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[Gymjunkie]

Well, seems like MicroMentor.com works! I got two mentor inquiries for my fitness newsletter online project. Some of them probably will want to sell you consulting but they share valuable info for free too. I know I got some nice experience sharing from a guy who has few newsletter already. Don't know how it goes further but the start is good.

 

[worryfreeOS]

I know this is sort of an old thread, but I'm curious to know what happened. How did this turn out?

 

[SWaltzer]

This would follow my inclinations as well. Haven't lately had the success I would like. I have a lot of heart and dedication.. If I understand the task maybe I could e of assistance.

 

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[SWaltzer]

This emeinates my thoughts as welll. When someone gives you something you return the gift and do for each other. NNot doing well financially and would like to see how to make some good caash quickly with little money. I would like to hear all the successes out there that care to communicate. I appreciate thoughts on this matter.

 

[ethanhunt3055]

You can find your mentor inside your heart at any rate.

 

[zr1]

I think the best way to find a mentor is to be a good mentor.

Try being a mentor to someone else who genuinely needs your help
and you'd be surprised who will be there to help you when you least
expect it.

To find a hot girl to date, try to help a friend who ain't got "game"
and match him up and you'd be surprised what comes around when
your friend's new girlfriend introduces you to her bodacious sister ;-)

Referrals are the best form of marketing!

 

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[millionairesol]

Sid-

There was a guy in my industry. A kind of god (small "g"). He developed most of the modern day systems for evaluating small room acoustics. In other words, we know about small room acoustics today because of the work this one guy has done-- and the people who were inspired by him.

(definition: small room acoustics refers to anything smaller than an auditorium, church, etc--- in other words, residential listening spaces).

Since I made my living designing listening spaces for homes, this guy was my idol. I looked up to him, read all of his work (in that way he was my mentor), and pretty much just idolized what he'd done.

So it made sense that, even as a "famous" guy in my industry, I got completely tongue tied and bashful the first time I met him. Prolly didn't say more than 5 words (3 of which were "hello" and "good bye").

Third time I met him, I stammered out something like, "You know, there are a million things I'd like to talk about with you. But I'm so in awe of your work, and what you've done, that every time we meet, I'm at a loss for words" (I'd actually practiced saying these exact words, about 50 times-- because I knew that my mind would draw a blank when I saw him again).

So I blurted out this pre-rehearsed drivel. Stopped.

And he laughed, heartily. "Russ, my boy, we'll just have to sit down over a few drinks. I'm not that bad a guy. And there are things I'd like to chat about with you, too."

That was the beginning of a long friendship. We'd talk frequently on the phone-- I'd call him when I had a question, or was writing an article that involved acoustics. And he'd share his new findings w/me-- both as papers, and in person (I'd fly down and he'd show me what he was working on).

I still admire and respect him-- and consider him the father of small room acoustics. But I'm no longer intimidated by him.

And I'm honored to call him my friend-- not just a professional acquaintance. Last time I was down in his neck of the woods, I stayed at his house (he and his wife are consummate hosts). He asked for my input, and I gave him some ideas for his home theater system set up (he was the small room acoustics god. I was just a home theater 'guru'). For years afterwards, I'd hear him telling his friends that I had given him great ideas for his home theater. It was quite an honor to be held in that esteem by him.

*******

So, the point of my story?

Don't be afraid to tell this guy you're nervous-- tell him why. If you have to, practice a humble intro like I did, in case you get brain freeze.

And from that point on, just be honest. Try to have your goals/ducks in a row before your meeting (in other words, what you'd like to learn from him). Offer him whatever you consider you bring to the party in return (sweat equity, a different perspective, whatever).

Don't go out to impress. Go out to be genuine, and honest.

Sure worked for me.

-Russ H.

I have just added this to my arsenal. Thanks a lot!

 

[millionairesol]

Deep lesson learned; Never try to impress your mentor or mentor-to-be. Simply be sincere, genuine and honest and you will learn a lot from them.

 

[millionairesol]

How about helping authors get known, like that guy who wrote "The Millionaire Fastlane ". I'm sure he'd appreciate some help in selling more books

Brilliant idea. Why not start one? Who knows...

 

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[Primzi]

That MicroMentor website is really good. I've made a mentoring request and got an offer in days. My mentor has already helped me clear up so much fog in just 2 1-hour sessions, it's amazing!

 

[JEdwards]

True Story.

Just the other day, Someone local, 23 year old, asked me to mentor him, said he wants to be a great entrepreneur. would love to be my assistant. In an email I said ok, how much do you need to make? To which he replied. "I need to make at least $4,500 bucks a month to cover my bills I hope that does not scare you"

So you want me to teach you how to be an entrepreneur and pay you $60k to start. Ok..

I offered him $120k so he would be able to live at least a half decent lifestyle.

 

[wade1mil]

True Story.

Just the other day, Someone local, 23 year old, asked me to mentor him, said he wants to be a great entrepreneur. would love to be my assistant. In an email I said ok, how much do you need to make? To which he replied. "I need to make at least $4,500 bucks a month to cover my bills I hope that does not scare you"

So you want me to teach you how to be an entrepreneur and pay you $60k to start. Ok..

I offered him $120k so he would be able to live at least a half decent lifestyle.

Was there something in particular that you liked about this guy?

 

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[JEdwards]

Was there something in particular that you liked about this guy?

No, just thought I would try to help him learn about biz... $10 an hour was in my head to start, once he proves he is worth something move him up quickly. Just the fact that he asked me to cover his bills shows he is not a real entrepreneur.

About 14 years ago a waiter at the restaurant I used to go to often, asked me if I would mentor him or at least he would like to be involved in the businesses and learn, I said sure, if you can work for 8 an hour. He said ok.

He worked out great, smart guy, within a few months I was probably paying him a grand a week. he bought one of my corvettes from me to drive everyday. Needless to say, now he owns a very nice size business. Has a nice 32 acre spread for his home, has 30 employees and makes a great living.

I am Not saying he would not of made it without me cause he would of, but I think I helped him along the way. I know he learned a lot in the 3+ years he worked for me.

 

[Sasha]

No, just thought I would try to help him learn about biz... $10 an hour was in my head to start, once he proves he is worth something move him up quickly. Just the fact that he asked me to cover his bills shows he is not a real entrepreneur.

I am so confused by this.

Are you saying because he solicited you to be his mentor and then asked for such a salary you knew he didn't have what it takes to be an entrepreneur, so you decided to pay him 120k to.... be a highly paid assistant and mentee who likely has no future as an entrepreneur?

 

[RazvanRogoz]

There are some seeds of success that are not depended on skill or experience.

Thinking big, working hard, making sacrifices, showing initiative and leadership can be developed since high-school.

That's what a mentor is looking in you. If you were already rich (richer than the mentor), then you wouldn't actually need one (at least not in that area of your life).

So a mentor knows you are broke. But he can recognize if you got it in you or not.

The truth when it comes to mentorship is a little strange.

Anyone who've made a small fortune develops the "God syndrome". He thinks that the world is divided between entrepreneurs and doofuses (read that as in dummy people). It's not really this way.

Keep in mind that most mentors are human beings. Human beings are driven by ego. Human beings are driven by the desire to be recognized. So if I were to search for a mentor, I know that the ability to make him feel important is far more important than what I bring to the table.

If someone offers to mentor me, I would refuse that. Why do I want to be mentored by someone that sells himself so cheaply? If I want to be mentored, I want someone who will have me go through hell to get his time and attention.

And finally, if I were to find a mentor, I would focus on providing value first, asking for things later. A mentor, a real one doesn't need a VA. He can afford to pay one without getting involved in a mentor - mentee relationship. Why do you want to have someone picking your brains and pay him $10/hour when you can pay a real professional $30/hour and actually get the job done?

So I'm always very skeptical about mentors.

I've received offers like "work for me for free and I'll teach you a lot of stuff". I've refused. I'm not stupid.
I've received offers like "the other guy quit a well paid job to work for me at this rate. I want you to do the same thing". I've refused. If the other guy would have shown that he became a millionaire, then I may have accepted. But from what I know, he didn't.

Final thought:
If you are a high performance person in any area of your life (sports, social, business, relationships, etc) then you'll get a mentor. You don't need to look for one. You'll attract one because successful people want to have in their teams people like you.

But if you are looking for a mentor with the mindset "I want to work and I want to be rich, please pick me and I'll work for free" you'll get a mentor that:
a) Doesn't respect you (in the real world, what's offered for free doesn't come with much value) and
b) Will never treat you as a equal, therefore, he will never give you the education you want and deserve.

Think about it.

Razvan

 

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[CPisHere]

I have signed up for MicroMentor and just asked 2 highly accomplished people to mentor me. I obviously haven't heard back from them yet as it was just a few minutes ago, but I'm excited about it. The 2 individuals I found have experience in my field, one of them in Executive Management and the other as an Entrepreneur.

FYI, my personal experience with SCORE was underwhelming. I'm sure it depends on your local chapter, but the mentors available in my area were not impressive. They lacked experience and insight other than basic questioning of a business plan.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Are you saying because he solicited you to be his mentor and then asked for such a salary you knew he didn't have what it takes to be an entrepreneur, so you decided to pay him 120k to.... be a highly paid assistant and mentee who likely has no future as an entrepreneur?

He was being facetious. (He was probably told to get lost.) The fact that this guy wants to be an entrepreneur and yet, wants to absolve risk and sacrifice is a clear indication he is not wired to be one.

 

[Sasha]

Final thought:
If you are a high performance person in any area of your life (sports, social, business, relationships, etc) then you'll get a mentor. You don't need to look for one. You'll attract one because successful people want to have in their teams people like you.

Think about it.

Razvan

I'll be honest, most of your comment rubs me the wrong way but I fully agree with you here.

When you've shown some evidence of being a person worth investing in, someone or a few someones will take you under their wing. The only time I see actively reaching out as required, is when you have a specific mentor in mind.

@ Cparsons: Say it ain't so!

I'll be giving the score in my area a chance. I really hope they're worth more than just business plan advice b/c then they'd really be of no use to me.

@ MJ: I sure hope so, but you may never know these days. Stranger things have happened.

 

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[RazvanRogoz]

Sasha,

It's simple social dynamics.

If you are a beautiful girl / boy, everyone will want to date you.

If not, you'll have to find someone to accept to date you.

Here, most people are not beautiful yet and they are begging for someone to take them out.

Instead of wasting time on this, I would focus on becoming "beautiful" and showing the set of skills, traits and ideas that would attract the right mentor.

Razvan

 

[Gold777]

Sasha,

It's simple social dynamics.

If you are a beautiful girl / boy, everyone will want to date you.

If not, you'll have to find someone to accept to date you.

Here, most people are not beautiful yet and they are begging for someone to take them out.

Instead of wasting time on this, I would focus on becoming "beautiful" and showing the set of skills, traits and ideas that would attract the right mentor.

Razvan

Bad analogy,

This isn't really true, it has nothing to do with your "beauty" or your "skills". If you don't have ambition, if you don't aspire to be successful, if you don't have the drive to do something great, if you don't have that fire inside of you then your skills or ideas mean absolutely nothing. If someone is good at playing basketball and they can hit 3 pointers all day, but come game time they can only play for a few minutes before they get gassed and start sitting out, what good is their skills then?

Mentors aren't looking to mentor someone because they have good ideas or skills, they're mentoring them because they see something inside of them, something that maybe that person can't even see for themselves. Something that could potentially make the person great. They want to pass their passion to them, they want to help them help themselves, and they want to be apart of their journey on the road to success.

 

[RazvanRogoz]

If you have that fire inside of you, then you are doing something to get past over your current situation.

If you are poor, you are there because your choices brought you there.
If you have no business skills, you are there because you never took the time to learn them (even from books, it's better than nothing).

Contrary to popular beliefs, successful people are not sitting in their desk waiting to discover the next ambitious person to launch into space. There are a lot of ambitious people in this world. You need something extra next to ambition to get remarked.

But maybe you know some different kind of mentors - Tony Robbins like.

I guess that in the end it's easier to think that ambition is all you need in this life. Why actually put in the effort to become someone and get noticed when being ambitious is enough?

And if I think about it - if you are ambitious, you take action. Action leads to results. Results lead to feedback which leads to better results. So ambitious people should have some results and skills thanks to their journey to get there.
Razvan

 

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[theBiz]

Im going to offer my experience.


-You need to meet them outside of a business setting/nothing to do with work/business.

-Not ask them questions or try to get money from them.

-You need to become their friends, for real not just trying to suck something out of them.

 

[JEdwards]

I am so confused by this.

Are you saying because he solicited you to be his mentor and then asked for such a salary you knew he didn't have what it takes to be an entrepreneur, so you decided to pay him 120k to.... be a highly paid assistant and mentee who likely has no future as an entrepreneur?

He was being facetious. (He was probably told to get lost.) The fact that this guy wants to be an entrepreneur and yet, wants to absolve risk and sacrifice is a clear indication he is not wired to be one.

Exactly.. I told him to get lost.

 

[mmtprofile]

This is what I do as well. Actually I am putting my membership website together as we speak to bring my millionaire mentors to you. However, I've learned three key points that I want to share with you.

Study him like a hawk. Know more about him and his business than he knows. When you do this you will start to naturally find uncommon but important questions. Those are the questions to ask.

To build a relationship, show that you ARE an action taker. No mentor wants to hang around people who are wasting their time. If you have deals, make sure that they're put together in a spectacular format.

Be sincere and make an unusual comment such as "(character trait" is what I really admire in you (this is why it resonates with me). This type of comment will set you apart and it gets you into their heart.


Also take notes. This is one that I do a lot but it is not part of the three.

I really hope this helps you so please let me know.

 

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[mmtprofile]

Bad analogy,

This isn't really true, it has nothing to do with your "beauty" or your "skills". If you don't have ambition, if you don't aspire to be successful, if you don't have the drive to do something great, if you don't have that fire inside of you then your skills or ideas mean absolutely nothing. If someone is good at playing basketball and they can hit 3 pointers all day, but come game time they can only play for a few minutes before they get gassed and start sitting out, what good is their skills then?

Mentors aren't looking to mentor someone because they have good ideas or skills, they're mentoring them because they see something inside of them, something that maybe that person can't even see for themselves. Something that could potentially make the person great. They want to pass their passion to them, they want to help them help themselves, and they want to be apart of their journey on the road to success.

I agree. Mentors ONLY want to be around people who are focused, ambitious and taking massive action.

 

[CPisHere]

I have signed up for MicroMentor and just asked 2 highly accomplished people to mentor me. I obviously haven't heard back from them yet as it was just a few minutes ago, but I'm excited about it. The 2 individuals I found have experience in my field, one of them in Executive Management and the other as an Entrepreneur.

FYI, I never heard back from the 2 individuals I asked to mentor me on MicroMentor, but I did get a mentor offer from another person who has been helpful.