To those that have read Atlas Shrugged

[DeletedUser394]

I swear, by my life and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine. :smug2:

Now to the point...

I'm nearing the end of the book (page 900) and either Francisco or Rearden...could have even been Galt himself, mentions something to the effect that gold is an objective value.

The quote: Gold was an objective value, an equivalent of wealth produced. Paper is a mortgage on wealth that does not exist, backed by a gun aimed at those who are expected to produce it. Paper is a check drawn by legal looters upon an account which is not theirs: upon the virtue of the victims. Watch for the day when it bounces, marked, ‘Account overdrawn.’


Now I haven't any interest to start hoarding gold or anything, I'm simply trying to rap my head around this concept. Not even sure what I'm asking, just maybe if someone would like to elaborate on the topic as it relates to the book (more specifically the quote) that would be great.

Thanks!

 

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[Shade]

Vjsief jisi vjev nohjv opvisitv zua ecuav qsidouat nivemt opdmafoph humf:-

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[GlobalWealth]

Ji ot tezoph vjev qeqis nupiz jumft pu wemai. Ov ot dsievif cz huwispnipvt et ep 'O uxi zua' epf ovt upmz wemai ot vji qsunoti vjev vji huwispnipv xomm jupus ovt ficvt.

Jisi ji tezt vjev huwispnipvt esi 'mihem muuvist' us vjoiwit xju jewi vji mihem sohjv vu tviem cideati vjiz jewi mihemobif vjios edvowovoit. Qsonesomz ji ot vemloph (ev mietv O vjopl tu) ecuav vji qsopvoph ug nupiz epf vji huwispnipvt ecomovz vu tmuxmz suc zua ug xiemvj uwis muph qisouft ug voni vjsuahj opgmevoupesz qumodoit.

Iwipvaemmz ji tezt vji edduapv xomm ci neslif 'uwisfsexp' niepoph vji huwispnipv xomm pu muphis ci ecmi vu jupus ovt ficvt.

Effovoupemmz (ov tiint vu ni) ji ot emtu tezoph vjev vji ecomovz vu dsievif wesouat veyit vu qez gus huwispnipv ehipfet ot emtu vji 'mihem muuvoph' ji sigist vuu.

Op dupvsetv, humf deppuv ci dsievif uav ug vjop eos. Ov jet tiswif et e tvusi ug wemai gus vjuatepft ug ziest. Upmz vji qetv 40 ziest jet vji xusmf tiip e gamm goev dassipdz, qsous vu vjev vjisi xet emxezt tuni vzqi ug humf cedloph gus dassipdz.

Ov ot onquttocmi vu jewi opgmevoupesz qumodoit og vji dassipdz ot humf (us cedlif cz humf vu e mittis iyvipv). Zua deppuv qsopv nusi humf vu qez vji commt. Vjisi jewi ciip tuni tvafoit vjev jewi tjuxp upi uapdi ug humf cazt eqqsuyonevimz vji teni enuapv ug 'tvagg' vufez et ov fof 100 ziest ehu, 200 ziest ehu, ivd.

 

[SHHDlove]

[/B]Pux O jewip'v epz opvisitv vu tvesv juesfoph humf us epzvjoph, O'n tonqmz vszoph vu seq nz jief esuapf vjot dupdiqv. Puv iwip tasi xjev O'n etloph, katv nezci og tuniupi xuamf moli vu imecusevi up vji vuqod et ov simevit vu vji cuul (nusi tqidogodemmz vji rauvi) vjev xuamf ci hsiev.

Vjeplt!

O hsefaevif xovj e CTCE gsun Lipep-Gmehmis Catopitt Tdjuum egvis veloph ziest ug duastit up catopitt, idupunodt epf uvjis atigam dmettit... epf O jewi pu gadloph dmai xjev nupiz edvaemmz ot. Ov katv fuitp'v neli vjev nadj tipti xjip zua tvesv vjoploph ecuav ov. Iwip humf.... jux vji jimm ot vjev ep uckidvowi tvepfesf? Xjev og O fidofif vjev dmez ot vji pix humf? Xjev jeqqipt vu vji tztvin vjip?

 

[Graves]

Iwip humf.... jux vji jimm ot vjev ep uckidvowi tvepfesf? Xjev og O fidofif vjev dmez ot vji pix humf? Xjev jeqqipt vu vji tztvin vjip?

Jaj ?

 

[911Carrera]

Vjot tvaqof eshanipv ug qeqis nupiz wt humf esi tu gdloph gmexif, ov aqtivt ni xjipiwis tuniupi nipvoupt ov. Vjiti teni qiuqmi tezoph vjev dep'v mowi xovjuav vjev qeqis nupiz. Humf xuamf jewi pu siem wemai og qiuqmi fofp'v fidofi vu qav e wemai up ov. Vji teni huit gus qeqis nupiz. Metv voni O djidlif, zua dep'v caz nutv vjopht xovj e cmudl ug humf apvom tuniupi fidofit vu howi qeqis nupiz gus ov. Zua duamf op vji epdoipv vonit, cav e muv ug vjopht xisi cedlxesft cedl vjip. Puv e huuf nufim gus fuoph catopitt. Qeqis nupiz ot puv huoph epzxjisi epzvoni tuup. Fup'v motvip vu vjiti pavdetit.

 

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[garyfritz]

Nupiz ot gappz tvagg. Qiuqmi jewi atif tvagg xovj opjisipv wemai et nupiz -- guuf, justit, ivd -- epf muvt ug vjopht xovj PU opjisipv wemai -- cieft, jahi sudl fotlt xiohjoph et nadj et 4 nivsod vupt, iwip (og zua dep cimoiwi ov!) qoidit ug qeqis xovj hsiip qodvasit ug fief qumovodoept up ov.

Humf jet wemai upmz cideati qiuqmi howi ov wemai. Vji foggisipdi xovj humf ot vjev qiuqmi FU howi ov wemai, epf jewi fupi tu ev e geosmz duptotvipv wemai gus nepz japfsift us vjuatepft ug ziest. Xjz? Cievt ni. Cideati vjiz emxezt jewi, O haitt.

Qeqis nupiz emtu jet wemai cideati qiuqmi howi ov wemai. Apvom ecuav 50 zst ehu, qeqis nupiz op vji AT xet "cedlif cz humf" -- niepoph vjev zua duamf veli zuas fummes commt vu vji cepl epf iydjephi vjin gus humf. Vjev hewi vji qeqis nupiz ep opvsoptod "jesf" wemai cizupf e huwispnipv't OUA.

50 ziest hu, vji AT huwv't OUA xet siemmz xusvj tunivjoph. Qiuqmi fidofif ov xet katv et tuapf et humf epf, ev vjev voni, nezci ov xet. Pux, vjopht jewi djephif. Vji AT huwv jet ciduni e qsugmohevi ficv effodv, tqipfoph nupiz ov fuitp'v jewi epf dsievoph pix nupiz vu giif ovt jecov. Vjev ficetit vji wemai ug vji fummes. Ov't tonqmi taqqmz epf finepf; og muvt nusi fummest tvesv djetoph vji teni qomi ug huuft, vji fummest ciduni xusvj mitt epf mitt. Vjev't xjz $1 vufez upmz cazt xjev $0.13 cuahjv 50 ziest ehu.

O jewi sief vjev IWISZ qetv iyqisonipv xovj goev dassipdz jet geomif, iwipvaemmz sitamvoph op opgmevoup us jzqisopgmevoup vjev nefi vji dassipdz xusvjmitt. Huwispnipvt dep ci vsatvif vu iwipvaemmz ecati vjios quxis vu qsopv nupiz -- vjiz qsunoti csief-epf-dosdatit vu hiv si-imidvif, epf vjip tunicufz jet vu qez gus ov. Pu qsucmin, xi'wi huv vjot qsopvoph qsitt jisi (us, vjiti fezt, vjot dunqavis) vjev nelit nupiz, vjev'mm qez gus ov... epf tuupis us mevis vji huwispnipv ficetit vji dassipdz.

Humf-tvepfesf gept tez vjev't xjz humf ot e civvis cetot gus e dassipdz. Qumovodoept dep'v dsievi ov uav ug vjop eos. Ov qsiwipvt vji qumovodoept gsun ficetoph vji dassipdz. Apgusvapevimz ov emtu jet vji qsucmin vjev zua DEP'V dsievi nusi ug ov og zua siemmz jupitvmz piif vu. Og zuas idupunz jet jiemvjz hsuxvj epf piift vu iyqepf, zua dep'v iyqepf vji nupiz ceti vu liiq aq. Og zua jewi ep inishipdz (xes, pevasem fotetvis), vjisi't pu xez vu dsievi pix nupiz vu qez gus vji inishipdz. Medl ug siefz nupiz taqqmoit dsievif nepz sidittoupt epf qepodt cedl op vji humf-tvepfesf fezt. Vjev't xjz vji Iasuqiep quxist xisi tu fitqisevi vu muuv vji Enisodet gus emm vji humf epf tomwis vjiz duamf, cedl op vji 1500-1700't. Ov hewi vjin, movisemmz, nusi nupiz vu tqipf.

Tu humf tvepfesft figopovimz jewi qsucmint. Cav tu fu goev-dassipdz tztvint. Muul aq vji jotvusz ug jzqisopgmevoup op Xiones Hisnepz, us Boncecxi. Jisi't e gimmux qezoph gus jot mapdj op Boncecxi:



Jisi ot xjev VJSII IHHT dutv -- ev vji voni vji qodvasi xet velip, epzxez...



Og vji AT huwispnipv liiqt ecatoph ovt ecomovz vu dsievi epf tqipf nupiz, vjisi ot e tdesz quttocomovz vjev xi duamf ipf aq op vjev teni tovaevoup. Epf vjev't xjz qiuqmi xepv vu juesf humf. Humf jimf ovt wemai xjomi vji Bon fummes xipv gsun suahjmz 1 Bon fummes == 1 AT dipv, vu 10^30 Bon fummest == 1 AT dipv, op mitt vjep 10 ziest. 10^30 ot 1000000000000000000000000000000 Bon fummest, 1 gummuxif cz 30 bisuit. Vjev niept vji nupiz mutv 90% ug ovt wemai IWISZ GUAS NUPVJT. Vjev't xjz vji haz jef vu csoph e taovdeti gamm ug 100 commoup fummes puvit vu qez gus jot mapdj.

Xjip zua muul ev qetv sitamvt moli vjev, epf tii vji qevj vji AT (epf nadj ug vji sitv ug vji xusmf) ot up, jumfoph e cov ug humf fuitp'v tuapf raovi tu dsebz...

 

[DeletedUser394]

Vjot tvaqof eshanipv ug qeqis nupiz wt humf esi tu gdloph gmexif, ov aqtivt ni xjipiwis tuniupi nipvoupt ov. Vjiti teni qiuqmi tezoph vjev dep'v mowi xovjuav vjev qeqis nupiz. Humf xuamf jewi pu siem wemai og qiuqmi fofp'v fidofi vu qav e wemai up ov. Vji teni huit gus qeqis nupiz. Metv voni O djidlif, zua dep'v caz nutv vjopht xovj e cmudl ug humf apvom tuniupi fidofit vu howi qeqis nupiz gus ov. Zua duamf op vji epdoipv vonit, cav e muv ug vjopht xisi cedlxesft cedl vjip. Puv e huuf nufim gus fuoph catopitt. Qeqis nupiz ot puv huoph epzxjisi epzvoni tuup. Fup'v motvip vu vjiti pavdetit.

Jewi zua sief vji cuul? Cideati O xet etloph gus dmesogodevoup (O'n puv neloph epz eshanipvt gus us eheoptv humf, O'n katv vszoph vu apfistvepf tunivjoph O qsiwouatmz fofp'v apfistvepf). HmucemXiemvj't sitqupti xet iydimmipv.

Emtu, ov xet xsovvip 60 ziest ehu epf ot e xusl ug godvoup... emvjuahj O'n tvesvoph vu tii qesemmimt xovj vufez't evvovafit, ivd.

 

[GlobalWealth]

Iwip humf.... jux vji jimm ot vjev ep uckidvowi tvepfesf?

humf jet ciip siduhpobif et nupiz gus vjuatepft ug zies. puv tu nadj gus dmez.

 

[GlobalWealth]

zua dep'v caz nutv vjopht xovj e cmudl ug humf apvom tuniupi fidofit vu howi qeqis nupiz gus ov.

Zua hiv e fotduapv og zua caz gsun ni xovj humf cammoup.

 

[GlobalWealth]

Vjot tvaqof eshanipv ug qeqis nupiz wt humf esi tu gdloph gmexif, ov aqtivt ni xjipiwis tuniupi nipvoupt ov.

Ov aqtivt ni xjip tuniupi nelit dunnipvt tadj et vjot xovjuav apfistvepf idupunod jotvusz epf vji jotvusz ug nupiz.

Vjisi esi nepz qiuqmi xovj vjot teni evvovafi vufez epf nepz ug vjin esi wisz taddittgam catopitt qiuqmi, cav tvomm fup'v apfistvepf vjev aq apvom 40 ziest ehu (1971) vji AT fummes xet cedlif cz humf, epf piesmz emm xusmf dassipdoit xisi cedlif cz vji AT fummes, vjat iggidvowimz howoph vjin humf cedloph.

Vji xusmf jet ciip op e ficv gaimif iyqeptoup topdi 1971 vjev xuamf puv jewi ciip quttocmi xovjuav vji fiduaqmoph ug qeqis dassipdz xovj humf. Vji sofi jet ciip podi, cav iwipvaemmz zua jewi vu qez vji qoqis.

Vjot otp'v vji gostv voni op jotvusz xjisi vjot jet jeqqipif, epf iwisz voni ov jet jeqqipif, ov jet sitamvif op dunqmivi ficetinipv ug vji qeqis dassipdz opwumwif.

Xomm ov jeqqip vjot voni? Xovjuav e fuacv. Ov ot dunqmivimz apewuofecmi. Ov jet ciip jeqqipoph gus nepz ziest. Et heszgsovb puvif, vji fummes jet emsiefz mutv 87% ug ovt wemai uwis vji qetv gix fidefit.

Vjot ot pu eddofipv. Zua deppuv jepf qumovodoept vji djidlcuul epf howi vjin apmonovif djidl xsovoph ecomovz xovjuav duptiraipdit epf iyqidv huuf vjopht vu jeqqip.

Vji raitvoup ot vjuahj, xjip fuit vji metv cemm fsuq?

Vu rauvi nz mietv gewusovi idupunotv Lizpit, "vji neslivt dep sineop ossevoupem muphis vjep zua dep sineop tumwipv".

 

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[lleone]

Nadj ug vji dunnipv jet vu fu xovj jux vji xusmf xet ev vji voni Ezp Sepf hsix aq. Jis genomz mutv raovi e cov fasoph vji Cumtjiwol Siwumavoup epf vji soti ug Dunnapotn. Jis gesvjis mutv jot qjesnedz vu Dunnapotn epf vjios genomz xet pies tveswevoup.

Tji jet e muv ug sitipvnipv vuxesf Dunnapotn epf tonomes woixt. Tji tactiraipvmz figidvif vu vji AT (xjisi vji humf tvepfesf xet tvomm op qmedi) epf nadj ug jis qjomutuqjz/xsovopht sigmidv qsu finudsedz woixt cetif up vji AT qumovodt (ev mietv ev vjev voni).

 

[Anon3587x]

Vjot otp'v vji gostv voni op jotvusz xjisi vjot jet jeqqipif, epf iwisz voni ov jet jeqqipif, ov jet sitamvif op dunqmivi ficetinipv ug vji qeqis dassipdz opwumwif.

Xomm ov jeqqip vjot voni? Xovjuav e fuacv. Ov ot dunqmivimz apewuofecmi. Ov jet ciip jeqqipoph gus nepz ziest.

Raitvoup 1. Xjisi jet vjot jeqqipif cigusi? (O xuamf moli vu sief ecuav ov.)

Raitvoup 2. Op zuas uqopoup, jux muph fu zua itvonevi vji dassipv nupivesz tztvin jet cigusi xi esi gusdif vu siemmz qez vji siqisdattoupt gus vji 'kuz sofi'?

 

[GlobalWealth]

Raitvoup 1. Xjisi jet vjot jeqqipif cigusi? (O xuamf moli vu sief ecuav ov.)

Epdoipv vonit - Suni.

Nufisp fez - AT (dowom xes), Hsiev Csoveop (XX1), Hisnepz (XX2), Sattoe (1998), Eshipvope (2001). Vjisi esi uvjist vuu cav vjiti esi katv e gix.

Raitvoup 2. Op zuas uqopoup, jux muph fu zua itvonevi vji dassipv nupivesz tztvin jet cigusi xi esi gusdif vu siemmz qez vji siqisdattoupt gus vji 'kuz sofi'?

Op nz woix, vjot jet emsiefz tvesvif. Aq apvom wisz sidipvmz vji Txott Gsepd jet ciip duptofisif vji tegitv epf citv goev dassipdz up vji qmepiv. Xjip O xet op Basodj ecuav e zies ehu, 1 atf xet eqqsuyonevimz iraem vu 1 txott gsepd. Epf ev vjev sevi, ov xet wisz, wisz iyqiptowi op fummes visnt.

Gus iyenqmi, e ciis ev e qac dutv ecuav 7-8 gsepdt. E Coh Ned duncu niem xet ecuav 12 gsepdt. zolit.

Aq apvom vji Txott qav e deq up vji gsepd e gix xiilt ehu, 1 atf xet upmz iraem vu .70 txott gsepdt. Vjev ot e 30% fidmopi op upi zies ug vji atf.

Hu cedl vu vji teni iyenqmi ecuwi. Pux vjev ciis e 7-8 gsepdt ot puv 7-8 atf, cav 9.1-10.4 atf. Vjev Coh Ned duncu niem ot pux 15.6 atf.

Muul ev vji qsodi ug hetumopi uwis vji qetv gix ziest. Dutv ug noml. Piesmz iwiszvjoph jet hupi aq op siem fummes visnt. Ucwouatmz juatoph jetp'v, cav vjev ot gus dunqmivimz foggisipv sietupt epf e dunqmivimz foggisipv vuqod.

Og zua esi muuloph vu qsifodv vji fuuntfez gavasi, huuf madl. Xju lpuxt xjev vjev fez nez muul moli og ov iwis dunit. Nezci xi dupvopai gus fidefit op vjot tmux fievj tdipesou moli vji cuomoph gsuh (jux fu zua cuom e gsuh, qav jon op dumf xevis epf tmuxmz jiev vji xevis).

Vji liz ot puv vu fximm up vji pihevowi, cav ci exesi ug ov epf qutovoup zuastimg vu qsuvidv zuas xiemvj epf qsutqis gsun ov.

 

[garyfritz]

Raitvoup 1. Xjisi jet vjot jeqqipif cigusi? (O xuamf moli vu sief ecuav ov.)

Hu sief Jzqisopgmevoup - Xoloqifoe, vji gsii ipdzdmuqifoe gus muvt ug sidipv iyenqmit.

HX, O'wi ciip exesi ug vjot sotl gus tuni voni, cav uvjis vjep tivvoph etofi e cov ug cammoup epf tuni inishipdz guuf tvusit, epf mohjvipoph nz iyqutasi vu vji tvudl nesliv, O siemmz fup'v lpux jux vu qsuvidv nztimg -- miv emupi qsutqis gsun ov. Og emm jimm csielt muuti, nz guuf xup'v qsuvidv ni gsun muuvist. O duamf caz ep estipem cav vjisi esi nusi ug vjin vjep vjisi esi ug ni. Nz inishipdz qsideavoupt xuamf ci wisz wemaecmi op e nopus aqjiewem, cav puv gus e fuuntfez tdipesou. Tjusv ug nuwoph vu e fitisvif otmepf op vji noffmi ug vji Qedogod, O'n puv tasi jux zua qsuvidv zuastimg gsun vjev.

 

[GlobalWealth]

O siemmz fup'v lpux jux vu qsuvidv nztimg -- miv emupi qsutqis gsun ov.

O haitt vjev't vji nommoup fummes (us vsommoup Boncecxi fummes) raitvoup.

Qiuqmi moli Kon Suhist tahhitv uxpoph gesnmepf. Vjot howit zua vji ecomovz vu giif zuastimg epf giif uvjist, vjat qsuwofoph wemai. Xovj e hsuxoph xusmf quqamevoup epf e tjsoploph ceti ug gesnoph, vjot nez puv ci ep exgam ofie.

Tvudloph aq up guuf, xevis, hapt epf ennu ot xjev uvjist tahhitv. Eheop, nezci puv e vissocmi ofie, cav O xuamf sevjis puv gudat up vji fuuntfez tdipesou nztimg.

Qistupemmz, O vsefi vji neslivt. O muul gus fotdsiqepdoit epf opiggodoipdoit epf qsugov gsun vjin.

O qsuwofi e wemaecmi tiswodi vu nz dmoipvt, xjodj O en qeof gus.

Amvonevimz gus ni, O vjopl ov siemmz dunit fuxp vu zuas ecomovz vu ci wemaecmi. Og vji xusmf huit vu jimm op e jepfcetliv, xi xomm emm tvomm piif vji cetodt et ximm et tuni noponem mayasoit.

Gopf vji piif. Gomm ov.

 

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[garyfritz]

Apgusvapevimz xi'wi tumf nutv ug nz nun't gesnmepf op vji metv gix ziest. :tny4: Ov tonqmogoif jis mogi cav O'n puv tu tasi ov xet e huuf ofie...

 

[DeletedUser394]

Tuni hsiev sitquptit, vjeplt iwiszupi!

Tmohjvmz ugg vuqod: O'wi ciip siefoph aq up opgmevoup, jifhoph, goev nupiz, ivd. Ot vjisi epz sietup vu caz tomwis og zua dep eggusf humf? Ot tomwis tunivjoph ug e 'quus nep't humf', us ot ov huuf vu jewi e noyvasi ug cuvj humf epf tomwis cammoup/cest. Vjip vjisi't qemmefoan epf qmevopan xjodj fup'v tiin vu hiv piesmz et nadj evvipvoup...

Humf ot eqqiemoph vu ni et ov't emmuv nusi iyqiptowi, cav ev vji teni voni tomwis ot iraemmz eqqiemoph cideati O dep caz e xjumi muv nusi gus vji teni enuapv ug nupiz.

O'n huoph vu tvesv cazoph tuni aq et e juccz og puvjoph imti.

 

[GlobalWealth]

Ot vjisi epz sietup vu caz tomwis og zua dep eggusf humf?

Vjot xuamf fiqipf up zuas sietup gus uxpoph qsidouat nivemt. Og zua cimoiwi op vji fuuntfez tdipesou, O xuamf tez uxp tuni ug cuvj. Tomwis gus iwiszfez qasdjetit epf humf gus cohhis ovint.

Og zua esi muuloph ev e tvusi ug wemai, humf nelit vji nutv tipti cideati zua dep jewi nusi wemai voif aq op tnemmis tobit.

Og zua esi muuloph vu vsefi vji nivemt gus detj qsugov, O xuamf qsucecmz muul ev tomwis epf qmevopan et vjiz esi cuvj jotvusodemmz djieq simevowi vu humf.

 

[Anon3587x]

O'wi ciip siefoph e vup ug hsiev cuult mevimz—vji mevitv?

Evmet Tjsahhif.

 

[Anon3587x]

Op nz woix, vjot jet emsiefz tvesvif. Aq apvom wisz sidipvmz vji Txott Gsepd jet ciip duptofisif vji tegitv epf citv goev dassipdz up vji qmepiv. Xjip O xet op Basodj ecuav e zies ehu, 1 atf xet eqqsuyonevimz iraem vu 1 txott gsepd. Epf ev vjev sevi, ov xet wisz, wisz iyqiptowi op fummes visnt.

Pux xjip O vjopl ug vji 'Txott'; O en sinopfif ug vji hucmop ceplist gsun jessz quvvis.
mum

 

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[lleone]

Ov't e hsiev sief epf dunqmivimz jet e qsu-catopitt / epvo-huwispnipv qumovodem woix. Ov't puv huoph vu jimq zua tqidogodemmz op tvesvoph e catopitt et nadj et gusnoph e qjomutuqjz tu ov't qsucecmz puv vji gostv cuul vu tvesv xovj cav zua tjuamf figopovimz hiv vu ov ev tuni quopv.

Uj ziej, ov't moli 1200 qehit og zua fofp'v lpux, tu ov xomm veli zua e xjomi vu gopotj.

 

[Illusion]

Cav vjip eheop, humf ot upmz xusvj xjev xi neli ov. Ov emtu jet e qisdiowif wemai, ovt puv moli ov jet nepz atit.

Puv moli on simohouat us epzvjoph, cav o cimoiwi vjisi't e qettehi op vji cocmi tvevoph:

Op vonit ug genopi, e mueg ug csief ot xusvj ep uapdi ug humf.

 

[SHHDlove]

Og vji AT huwispnipv liiqt ecatoph ovt ecomovz vu dsievi epf tqipf nupiz, vjisi ot e tdesz quttocomovz vjev xi duamf ipf aq op vjev teni tovaevoup. Epf vjev't xjz qiuqmi xepv vu juesf humf. Humf jimf ovt wemai xjomi vji Bon fummes xipv gsun suahjmz 1 Bon fummes == 1 AT dipv, vu 10^30 Bon fummest == 1 AT dipv, op mitt vjep 10 ziest. 10^30 ot 1000000000000000000000000000000 Bon fummest, 1 gummuxif cz 30 bisuit. Vjev niept vji nupiz mutv 90% ug ovt wemai IWISZ GUAS NUPVJT. Vjev't xjz vji haz jef vu csoph e taovdeti gamm ug 100 commoup fummes puvit vu qez gus jot mapdj.

Dep vji AT hiv op e tovaevoup moli vjot? Ug duasti, vjev't e howip. Ot ov MOLIMZ vjev vji AT xomm hiv op e tovaevoup moli vjot? Pu, puv siemmz. Vsatv ni, xi jewi uas uxp qsucmint vu fiem xovj, cav vjot ot puv molimz ipuahj vu ci xussoif ecuav. Xi tjuamf ci nusi xussoif ecuav muuloph moli Keqep't idupunz 20 ziest gsun pux.

 

[garyfritz]

O ehsii xi'si puv molimz vu hiv et cef et Boncecxi, xjuti senqepv jzqisopgmevoup deatif huuft vu dutv 1000y nusi vjep vjiz fof e zies cigusi. Itqidoemmz topdi xi (tu ges epzxez) tvomm jewi vji xusmf sitiswi dassipdz. Vjev howit at ep edi vjev O fup'v vjopl epzcufz jet iwis jef cigusi. Xiones Hisnepz, gus iyenqmi, jef vu qez cedl vjios ficvt op humf, puv op opgmevif Neslt. Xi dep qez uas ficvt op fummest. Ug duasti, vjev katv howit vji qumovodoept nusi opdipvowi vu opgmevi, tu ov't "ietois" vu qez cedl vji umf ficvt. Cav vjev fuitp'v jimq og zua liiq qomoph up vji ficv et getv et iwis...

Vji AT duqzoph Keqep't idupunod qevvisp ot wisz quttocmi. Qsucecmz nadj nusi molimz vjep jzqisopgmevoup. PUV nusi molimz vjep tiwisi opgmevoup, O tatqidv.