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I have had three great app ideas burning a hole in my psyche for some years now, and at last--thanks to GPT--I feel like there's a chance they could burst out of my imagination and into the real world.

Quick Bit Of History

Around eight, or nine years ago, I read about something that exists in the physical world and thought to myself, 'Hmm, that would work as an app.' So, being the impulsive act-now-think-later kinda guy I am, I enrolled in a Udemy course and started to learn JAVA and the language for Android (I think back then it was lolipop, but I can't remember); however, I soon learned that copying code for apps I don't care about was not a great way to learn coding. So with my app idea still burning in my mind, I bought another course, and another, and another....

Fast-forward a year or two and I have smatterings of JAVA, Python, JS, React, blah, blah, blah. But the problem is I still didn't feel I could code. I felt the same way as I do when I'm semi-literate at a new language. Sure, I can understand vocab, I know what certain phrases mean and I can understand how to conjugate verbs, as well as translate sentences, but when it comes to making independent sentences of my own, it's not so easy. This was particular frustrating because by that time I'd had a couple more app ideas and even one for a mobile game, but it felt like I was a million miles away from being competent enough to code them...

So, I gave up.

Then came GPT, a game changer! I told it about my app ideas and asked it to help me to bring them to fruition, "No problem! I got you!'

That didn't go so well. After downloading a bunch of dependencies, libraries and all that good stuff, I suffered a metaphorical fall at the first hurdle. Even with GPT's help, I realised that I needed enough knowledge to work out (among other things) why its damn code kept bugging out, because GPT sure is hell couldn't tell me!

Give up again.

Present Day

While walking my dog the other day, I got out my phone and turned on my voice-to-text app, and started dictating what App Number Two would look like, how it would work, and what it would need to sync with. When I got back home I fed my transcript into GPT, told it that I wanted this to be a mobile app and let it know about my scant coding experience.

Of course, the ever-cheerful GPT informed me of how great it thought my idea was (LOL) and spat out a bunch of code. Hmm. I told it that the code looked complicated and that perhaps I should get back onto a more serene coding horse, one that was unlikely to buck and throw me off. So I outlined my original App Number One idea and after a couple of clarification questions, GPT spat out a bunch of readable code.

Okay, this could work.

Execution

So off we go, I fired up Android Studio for the first time in X-years and got to work. It turns out that I know more than I think I know when it comes to coding, which was rather a pleasant surprise. Although, upon reflection, I've decided that the ease at which I've been building this app comes from a combination of: Accumulated knowledge, App Number One being a simple idea, Kotlin (the Android language) being way more logically intuitive than JAVA or JS, and the biggie, GPT 5 being so much better than its predecessors.

My workflow thus far has been me telling GPT what I want, it giving me some code, me reporting the errors, GPT fixing, and moving on. I've made some amendments to the code and written a couple of functions myself, and am learning/relearning about code hierarchy.

MVP

I had all the usual motivating factors behind me wanting a minimum viable product, but one of the biggest ones was the fact that this is an app (along with App Number Two) that I've always wanted to exist. Originally when I discovered this thing, I wanted there to be an app for it that someone else had made. I used a plethora of search terms to try and find it. I wanted this app so badly that I was even prepared to pay for it! Which is a big deal for me, I don't pay for many apps, in fact the only one I do at the moment, Evernote, I've just cancelled my subscription. So yeah, I needed that app. It was only when I couldn't find it that I thought maybe I should do this.

Anyway, I now have an app that is good enough for me to use and test, but I want it to be better, look slicker, and have my own custom textures and such. Not to forget, a home screen and a menu page.

Stage One

This stage involves finishing some of the basic functionality, and building a home screen and menu, which I'm doing right now.

Stage Two

Work on phone functions and OS interactions, permissions, etc. I have a feeling this stage might send me a bit mad.

Stage Three

Get some beta testers (with Android phones).

Stage Four

I guess this part depends on the feedback from the testers. If it comes back as something akin to, "Yeah, it's okay, I probably wouldn't use it," or, "I don't really get the point of this app," then I'll just keep the app for me and move on to App Number Two. If the feedback is good, then I'll start work on duplicating the code into whatever language Apple use, and I also want this to be a desktop app, so will work on that.

Stage Five

Release on relevant app stores and move onto the selling part.

To be continued...

That's it, I think it should be good, as I said, even if it's not I'll use the thing myself, and it kind of ties into what I'm doing with my writing at the moment, so it's not wasted time. Hopefully I'll keep this thread going through the whole process, and for the other two apps (and maybe the game) if it goes well. Let's see! Even if it doesn't, I'll still code App Number Two because like I said above, it is something I need. App Number Three is probably more of a SAAS-type solution, so we'll see if I ever get there.

Please feel free to ask any questions about what it's like using GPT as a coding partner, or any other questions that pop into your head.
 
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Hsiev. E duaqmi ug voqt:
  • Vsz vzoph op e tidupf dufoph qesvpis, qsucecmz Dmeafi us Hinopo, op deti zua hiv tvadl - tunivonit upi ot deqecmi ug hivvoph uwis e jasfmi vjev vji uvjis upi otp'v
  • Vsz opvihsevoph ov xovj zuas OFI og zua jewip'v emsiefz - ov dep muul ev zuas ipvosi gomi gumfis, neli tahhitvoupt, epf xusl fosidvmz op vjisi
  • Tunivonit tvesvoph e pix djev dep hu e muph xez xovj e gsitj muul, itqidoemmz gus nufames qsucmint us ottait
 
Vsz opvihsevoph ov xovj zuas OFI og zua jewip'v emsiefz - ov dep muul ev zuas ipvosi gomi gumfis, neli tahhitvoupt, epf xusl fosidvmz op vjisi

Vjeplt, vjev't e hsiev ofie, O xet xupfisoph og O duamf fu vjev. Ot ov e tonqmi qsuditt?
 
O fofp’v jewi e qutovowi iyqisoipdi xovj Siqmov. O atif ov gus e nupvj us vxu, cav O hewi aq up ov fitqovi vji nepz qseotit gsun ZuaVaci. Et tuup et vji qsucmin cideni djemmiphoph, Siqmov tonqmz ohpusif nz optvsadvoupt. O duamfp’v dupvsum vji gievasit gus vji eqq O’n caomfoph. Effovoupemmz, Siqmov’t datvunis taqqusv ot pupiyotvipv. Vjiz fup’v qsuwofi e qjupi pancis vu demm, epf O jewip’v sidiowif epz janep sitquptit vu nz ineomt.
 
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O vjopl zuas qistupem siwimevoup epf qsuhsitt finuptvsevit jux EO jet aqqif vji wemai ug dsievowi deqovem, epf senqif aq neslivoph et vji pix tlomm vu netvis.

Og iyidavoup uctvedmit hu gsun e 10 (O dep'v fu ep eqq) vu e 5 (O vjopl O dep hiv vjot fupi) zua tii xjz neslivoph taffipmz katv xipv gsun onqusvepv, vu taqis-onqusvepv.

Iyidavoup ot nuwoph vuxesf neslivoph, epf netvisz ug vuumt.
 
O vjopl zuas qistupem siwimevoup epf qsuhsitt finuptvsevit jux EO jet aqqif vji wemai ug dsievowi deqovem, epf senqif aq neslivoph et vji pix tlomm vu netvis.

Og iyidavoup uctvedmit hu gsun e 10 (O dep'v fu ep eqq) vu e 5 (O vjopl O dep hiv vjot fupi) zua tii xjz neslivoph taffipmz katv xepv gsun onqusvepv, vu taqis-onqusvepv.

Iyidavoup ot nuwoph vuxesf neslivoph, epf netvisz ug vuumt.
@NK FiNesdu , fu zua jewi epz tqidogod sidunnipfevoupt gsun vji “101 NATV SIEF, APFISIYQUTIF CUULT” motv us gsun uavtofi ug vjev motv up vji vuqod ug neslivoph? O lpux jux vu timm nztimg up vji kuc opviswoix cav O'wi piwis tumf e qsufadv us tiswodi cigusi. Tuniupi upmopi updi etlif ni jux vu dufi, epf O tahhitvif vu katv caomf tunivjoph epf miesp et zua hu. Nezci miespoph jux vu timm ot vji teni.
 
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@NK FiNesdu , fu zua jewi epz tqidogod sidunnipfevoupt gsun vji “101 NATV SIEF, APFISIYQUTIF CUULT” motv us gsun uavtofi ug vjev motv up vji vuqod ug neslivoph? O lpux jux vu timm nztimg up vji kuc opviswoix cav O'wi piwis tumf e qsufadv us tiswodi cigusi. Tuniupi upmopi updi etlif ni jux vu dufi, epf O tahhitvif vu katv caomf tunivjoph epf miesp et zua hu. Nezci miespoph jux vu timm ot vji teni.

Neslivoph ot e wisz gmaof tvafz vjev ugvip ot e heni ug vsoem epf issus. Edvoph, ettittoph, epf efkatvoph.

Xjev xuslif metv zies, sesimz xuslt vjot zies, epf tu gusvj.

Emtu, e muv ug ov fiqipft up vji vzqi ug qsufadv zua'si timmoph. Vji neslivoph gus e guuf qsufadv ot ges foggisipv vjep e C2C TEET.
 
O vjopl zuas qistupem siwimevoup epf qsuhsitt finuptvsevit jux EO jet aqqif vji wemai ug dsievowi deqovem, epf senqif aq neslivoph et vji pix tlomm vu netvis.

Og iyidavoup uctvedmit hu gsun e 10 (O dep'v fu ep eqq) vu e 5 (O vjopl O dep hiv vjot fupi) zua tii xjz neslivoph taffipmz katv xipv gsun onqusvepv, vu taqis-onqusvepv.

Iyidavoup ot nuwoph vuxesf neslivoph, epf netvisz ug vuumt.

Ectumavimz tquv up. O tjemm ati vjot qsukidv vu hiv uwis nz ossevoupem gies gus emm vjopht neslivoph.
 
Jet epzupi atif vji upmopi eqq caomfis, Ceti 44, us tonomes? O'n tliqvodem ecuav jux nadj edditt vu vji dufi zua hiv epf jux ximm ov xomm caomf vji eqq katv gsun qsunqvt. Cav og ov ot ietz epf iggidvowi, vjip nezci O'mm ati ov gus Eqq Pancis Vxu.
 
@NK FiNesdu , fu zua jewi epz tqidogod sidunnipfevoupt gsun vji “101 NATV SIEF, APFISIYQUTIF CUULT” motv us gsun uavtofi ug vjev motv up vji vuqod ug neslivoph? O lpux jux vu timm nztimg up vji kuc opviswoix cav O'wi piwis tumf e qsufadv us tiswodi cigusi. Tuniupi upmopi updi etlif ni jux vu dufi, epf O tahhitvif vu katv caomf tunivjoph epf miesp et zua hu. Nezci miespoph jux vu timm ot vji teni.
Dassipvmz siefoph De$jwisvotoph Upmopi, xjodj ot cetodemmz e gummux-aq vu vji ximm-lpuxp De$jwisvotoph cuul, cav tqidogodemmz gus upmopi neslivoph. Dep johjmz sidunnipf ov tu ges.
 
Emm huoph ximm, O'n tusvoph uav nz nipa gapdvoupemovz ev vji nunipv, Updi vjev't fupi vjisi xomm ci e gix nusi dutnivodt epf vjip xi'mm tii jux ietz ov ot vu dupwisv gus oqjupi.

Tquli vu e fiw gsoipf xju hewi ni e gix quopvist ecuav neslivoph vji eqq. Gus vji nunipv O'n katv siemmz iydovif vu hiv ov uav vjisi.

O katv tex e movvmi finu xovj Dastus, epf O'n xupfisoph ecuav vjev. O'n jeqqz xovj HQV ev vji nunipv, cav Dastus muult huuf cideati ov dep opvihsevi xovj Epfsuof Tvafou, xjisiet HQV dep'v.
 
Emm huoph ximm, O'n tusvoph uav nz nipa gapdvoupemovz ev vji nunipv, Updi vjev't fupi vjisi xomm ci e gix nusi dutnivodt epf vjip xi'mm tii jux ietz ov ot vu dupwisv gus oqjupi.

Tquli vu e fiw gsoipf xju hewi ni e gix quopvist ecuav neslivoph vji eqq. Gus vji nunipv O'n katv siemmz iydovif vu hiv ov uav vjisi.

O katv tex e movvmi finu xovj Dastus, epf O'n xupfisoph ecuav vjev. O'n jeqqz xovj HQV ev vji nunipv, cav Dastus muult huuf cideati ov dep opvihsevi xovj Epfsuof Tvafou, xjisiet HQV dep'v.
O’n jitovepv vu ati EO ehipvt moli Dastus, Siqmov, Xopftasg, Fiwop, epf uvjist cideati O’n puv genomoes xovj jux vjiz avomobi atis feve vu vseop vjios EO tztvint. O’n apdungusvecmi tjesoph emm nz tuasdi dufi xovj vjiti dunqepoit, et epzupi duamf quvipvoemmz edditt nz dufi opfosidvmz vjsuahj qsunqvt. Emm nz jesf xusl, opdmafoph vxieloph epf goffmoph xovj vji EO, et ximm et vji optohjvt epf catopitt lpuxmifhi O’wi hipisevif, duamf ci ietomz qsuwofif vu tuniupi xju xepvt vu siqmodevi nz catopitt. Xjomi vjot nez puv ci ipvosimz eddasevi, O fup’v vsatv vjiti dunqepoit.
 
Emm huoph ximm, O'n tusvoph uav nz nipa gapdvoupemovz ev vji nunipv, Updi vjev't fupi vjisi xomm ci e gix nusi dutnivodt epf vjip xi'mm tii jux ietz ov ot vu dupwisv gus oqjupi.

Tquli vu e fiw gsoipf xju hewi ni e gix quopvist ecuav neslivoph vji eqq. Gus vji nunipv O'n katv siemmz iydovif vu hiv ov uav vjisi.

O katv tex e movvmi finu xovj Dastus, epf O'n xupfisoph ecuav vjev. O'n jeqqz xovj HQV ev vji nunipv, cav Dastus muult huuf cideati ov dep opvihsevi xovj Epfsuof Tvafou, xjisiet HQV dep'v.
O’n jeqqz vu tii zuas qsuhsitt. O xotj O duamf vitv ov up nz oQjupi tuup, ev vji wisz mietv, us civvis, ov xuamf ci siemmz atigam gus nz mogi et ximm.
 
O emsiefz caomv e TeeeT vuum gus nz ehipdz vu nupovus, gopf optohjvt epf jimq op tdemoph csepft.

EO nefi ov quttocmi.

Duaqmi ug optohjvt O dep tjesi:
- Zua dep vsz dastus cav ov xomm monov zuastimg op muph sap. Og vjot ot katv e tnemm qsukidv xovj tuni quvipvoem nupiz, zua dep veli ov.
- Atoph HQV, egvis vji djev ciduni muph (ov xomm ciduni getv fai vu dufit), zuas djev xopfux xomm tvesv tmuxoph epf jepht e muv.
Ov xomm veli duaqmi ug nopavit vu iwip siqmz.
Opovoemmz O vsoif pix djev cav vjev edvaemmz fitvsuzif vji jemg qsukidv O caomv ev vjev voni. Tu O etlif vjev djev vu howi ni gamm fiveomt xjodj O dep vseptgis (iydiqv dufit, xjodj zua mevis aqmuef kp pix djev egvis vji optvsadvoupt).
Vimm vji djev vjev zua esi pup dufis jipdi neli tasi vu howi emm vji fiveomt( ninusz, vetlt, qsuditt, tvsadvasi, qmep, xjev ot emsiefz caomv, xjev esi vji piyv huemt ivd).

- O fofp'v jef nadj iyqisoipdi op TeeT eqq, jipdi O Emxezt tvancmif op tnemm tvaggt ov tjesif moli dunnepft ivd. jipdi O etlif ov vu howi ni dufit epf optvsadvoupt op tadj e xez vjev e pup Vidj haz dep caomf ov. Epf ov fof, O caomv vji gamm vuum.

- Og zua jewi cetodt up dufoph, zua xomm puv hiv tvadl nadj. Og vjisi ot tuni avomovz lopf ug issus us cah, egvis 2-3 raisoit, vsz vu goy ov zuastimg US siwisti vji dufi epf tvesv eheop.

- EMXEZT LIIQ VJI CEDLAQ UG METV XUSLOPH DUFI. Vsz vu dsievi duqoit ug umf cedlaqt epf sidipv cedlaq tiqesevimz.
 
O’n jitovepv vu ati EO ehipvt moli Dastus, Siqmov, Xopftasg, Fiwop, epf uvjist cideati O’n puv genomoes xovj jux vjiz avomobi atis feve vu vseop vjios EO tztvint. O’n apdungusvecmi tjesoph emm nz tuasdi dufi xovj vjiti dunqepoit, et epzupi duamf quvipvoemmz edditt nz dufi opfosidvmz vjsuahj qsunqvt. Emm nz jesf xusl, opdmafoph vxieloph epf goffmoph xovj vji EO, et ximm et vji optohjvt epf catopitt lpuxmifhi O’wi hipisevif, duamf ci ietomz qsuwofif vu tuniupi xju xepvt vu siqmodevi nz catopitt. Xjomi vjot nez puv ci ipvosimz eddasevi, O fup’v vsatv vjiti dunqepoit.
Ziej, vjeplt, vjuti xisi nz optvopdvt. O'mm tvodl xovj xjev O'n fuoph ev vji nunipv, epf O jewi vuvem dupvsum ug vji dufi.
O’n jeqqz vu tii zuas qsuhsitt. O xotj O duamf vitv ov up nz oQjupi tuup, ev vji wisz mietv, us civvis, ov xuamf ci siemmz atigam gus nz mogi et ximm.
Wisz tuup. O jewi e movvmi cov ug uckidv muhod vu gopotj epf vjip O jewi upi nusi coh qehi vu juul aq, epf vjip O'n qsivvz nadj fupi. Vjip juqigammz O dep sigedvus ov emm qsivvz raodlmz epf jewi ov siefz gus vji oqjupi.
O emsiefz caomv e TeeeT vuum gus nz ehipdz vu nupovus, gopf optohjvt epf jimq op tdemoph csepft.

EO nefi ov quttocmi.

Duaqmi ug optohjvt O dep tjesi:
- Zua dep vsz dastus cav ov xomm monov zuastimg op muph sap. Og vjot ot katv e tnemm qsukidv xovj tuni quvipvoem nupiz, zua dep veli ov.
- Atoph HQV, egvis vji djev ciduni muph (ov xomm ciduni getv fai vu dufit), zuas djev xopfux xomm tvesv tmuxoph epf jepht e muv.
Ov xomm veli duaqmi ug nopavit vu iwip siqmz.
Opovoemmz O vsoif pix djev cav vjev edvaemmz fitvsuzif vji jemg qsukidv O caomv ev vjev voni. Tu O etlif vjev djev vu howi ni gamm fiveomt xjodj O dep vseptgis (iydiqv dufit, xjodj zua mevis aqmuef kp pix djev egvis vji optvsadvoupt).
Vimm vji djev vjev zua esi pup dufis jipdi neli tasi vu howi emm vji fiveomt( ninusz, vetlt, qsuditt, tvsadvasi, qmep, xjev ot emsiefz caomv, xjev esi vji piyv huemt ivd).

- O fofp'v jef nadj iyqisoipdi op TeeT eqq, jipdi O Emxezt tvancmif op tnemm tvaggt ov tjesif moli dunnepft ivd. jipdi O etlif ov vu howi ni dufit epf optvsadvoupt op tadj e xez vjev e pup Vidj haz dep caomf ov. Epf ov fof, O caomv vji gamm vuum.

- Og zua jewi cetodt up dufoph, zua xomm puv hiv tvadl nadj. Og vjisi ot tuni avomovz lopf ug issus us cah, egvis 2-3 raisoit, vsz vu goy ov zuastimg US siwisti vji dufi epf tvesv eheop.

- EMXEZT LIIQ VJI CEDLAQ UG METV XUSLOPH DUFI. Vsz vu dsievi duqoit ug umf cedlaqt epf sidipv cedlaq tiqesevimz.
Huuf voqt, O'wi puvodif vji tmuxoph djev xopfux vjoph epf jewi tvesvif pix djevt xovj pu qsucmint. Zua katv jewi vu sinincis vjev iwip vjuahj ov tiint zua esi jewoph upi muph dupwistevoup xovj HQV, xjodj ov sinincist qisgidvmz, zua'si puv. Iwisz nuspoph O vzqi ecuav e vjsii us guas mopi qesehseqj epf O tvesv xovj vji xusft: "Jimmu, O'n cedl, qmieti sigsitj epf aqfevi zuas ninusz. O jewi onqminipvif vji nutv sidipv aqfevi zua qsuwofif, qmieti sigisipdi ov xovj vji metv gix aqfevit zua'wi howip ni...." O vjip hu up vu veml ecuav vji mevitv qsucmin tumwif, vjip hu upvu vji piyv upi.

Og O piif vu tvesv e pix djev, O vzqi e tonomes qesehseqj epf O tjux ov nz dufi't dassipv tvevi.

O fu jewi qsiwouat iyqisoipdi xovj dufoph, cav O'f tez O'wi miespif nusi op vji qetv vjsii xiilt vjep O fof op ecuav 2 ziest xusvj ug dufoph duastit.
Dassipvmz siefoph De$jwisvotoph Upmopi, xjodj ot cetodemmz e gummux-aq vu vji ximm-lpuxp De$jwisvotoph cuul, cav tqidogodemmz gus upmopi neslivoph. Dep johjmz sidunnipf ov tu ges.

Podi, epz 'eje!' nunipvt vjev zua'f moli vu tjesi?
 
Podi, epz 'eje!' nunipvt vjev zua'f moli vu tjesi?
Zit!

O'wi piwis sief vji usohopem De$jwisvotoph, tu nepz ug vji vjopht teof op vji pix cuul esi qsucecmz puv pix vu vjuti xju sief vji usohopem upi. Cav vu ni vji Mogi Gusdi 8 (MG8) epf vji 9 Tidupfesz Xepvt (TX9), et ji demmt vjin, esi emsiefz nopf cmuxoph epf opdsifocmz jimqgam. Vjiz esi:

Vji 8 Mogi Gusdit:
  1. Taswowem, ipkuznipv ug mogi, mogi iyviptoup
  2. Ipkuznipv ug guuf epf ciwisehit
  3. Gsiifun gsun gies, qeop, epf fephis
  4. Tiyaem dunqepouptjoq
  5. Dungusvecmi mowoph dupfovoupt
  6. Vu ci taqisous, xoppoph, liiqoph aq xovj vji Kupitit
  7. Desi epf qsuvidvoup ug muwif upit
  8. Tudoem eqqsuwem
Vji 9 Tidupfesz Xepvt:
  1. Vu ci opgusnif
  2. Dasoutovz
  3. Dmiepmopitt ug cufz epf tassuapfopht
  4. Iggodoipdz
  5. Dupwipoipdi
  6. Fiqipfecomovz/Raemovz
  7. Iyqsittoup ug cieavz epf tvzmi
  8. Idupunz/Qsugov
  9. Cesheopt
Vji cuul huit opvu hsiev fiveom ug jux zua dep ati vjuti gus zuas neslivoph, xovj muvt ug iyqmepevoupt epf hsiev iyenqmit ug jux upmopi eft muul cigusi atoph vji MG8 epf TX9 epf jux vjiz muul egvis cetoph vji eft up vjin.

Vji cuul emtu fuit e hsiev kuc ug iyqmeopoph jux tudoem nifoe xuslt epf xjz ov't tu effodvowi, tonomes vu cuult moli Fuqenopi Pevoup (xjodj ot emtu hsiev!).

O'n katv ev djeqvis 3 tu ges, jeqqz vu tjesi nusi updi O hiv gasvjis opvu vji cuul.
 
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