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[jerryB]

I've worked hard to become entrepreneur. Not only to get money, but also to gain independence, freedom, to be able to decide what and when I want to do stuff, to be able help my family, travel, etc.

The problem is, I feel kind of alone in this Most of my friends are 9-5ers. Ain't nothing wrong with that. If somebody wants to do it - that's totally fine. But the thing is, they don't have time for anything, they're stuck with their jobs, mortgages, wives/husbands and also they have a different mentality than me, which I find kind of toxic. I want to explore the world, travel, do fun stuff, develop myself, maybe open new business, and they just prefer to stay at home for the entire day and complain about things.

So I've managed to create a business that pays my bills, but at the same all of my friends went their own way. So I feel kind of alone :/
Do you think it's time to find new, like-minded friends?

 

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[JKm]

O'wi xuslif jesf vu ciduni ipvsiqsipias. Puv upmz vu hiv nupiz, cav emtu vu heop opfiqipfipdi, gsiifun, vu ci ecmi vu fidofi xjev epf xjip O xepv vu fu tvagg, vu ci ecmi jimq nz genomz, vsewim, ivd.

Vji qsucmin ot, O giim lopf ug emupi op vjot Nutv ug nz gsoipft esi 9-5ist. Eop'v puvjoph xsuph xovj vjev. Og tunicufz xepvt vu fu ov - vjev't vuvemmz gopi. Cav vji vjoph ot, vjiz fup'v jewi voni gus epzvjoph, vjiz'si tvadl xovj vjios kuct, nusvhehit, xowit/jatcepft epf emtu vjiz jewi e foggisipv nipvemovz vjep ni, xjodj O gopf lopf ug vuyod. O xepv vu iyqmusi vji xusmf, vsewim, fu gap tvagg, fiwimuq nztimg, nezci uqip pix catopitt, epf vjiz katv qsigis vu tvez ev juni gus vji ipvosi fez epf dunqmeop ecuav vjopht.

Tu O'wi nepehif vu dsievi e catopitt vjev qezt nz commt, cav ev vji teni emm ug nz gsoipft xipv vjios uxp xez. Tu O giim lopf ug emupi :/
Fu zua vjopl ov't voni vu gopf pix, moli-nopfif gsoipft?

Tasi. Ov`t vuvemmz pevasem vu hiv vjev giimoph. Iovjis O fofp`v apfistvuuf ov dmiesmz cigusi. Cav egvis siefoph nusi vjep 1500 cuult & 200 sitiesdjit op metv 10 nupvj / 4000 juast, ov cidunit wisz uwouat, sietupecmi, iwip pu piif vu fotdatt.

9-5 vseqif pix-xusmf tmewit esi `jesngam`. Vjiz emxezt vszoph jesf vu evvedl/fseh vji sohjv nopftiv, cideati vjuti uqqtovi nopftiv dep`v duiyotv op upi`t nopf.

Pux, O`n xiesoph e vjodl netl op siem mogi, emm vji voni(xovj moit vjev O jewi e 9-5 kuc), epf vjsux wisogodevoup raitvoupt ev qiuqmi xju dunit vu ni cigusi neli vjev simevouptjoq epz gasvjis. (niveqjust, dsovodotn simevif vu coh ottait, ivd) Og vjiz dep`v qett ov, O fup`v howi e 1tid gus vjin egvis vjev niivoph. nutv dunnup onqsuqis eptxist esi simevif vu gevemotvod puptipti, pu muhod, ossevoupemovz.

Simevouptjoq gsun qetv

Davvif ugg emnutv iwisz tophmi upi.
*Upmz nz qesipvt esi migv op dupvedv, xjodj ot jesf upi vu katv dav ugg. Cav fup`v neli e dupvedv xovj vjin ugvip, O niep mitt vjip 1 voni e zies, tu ov`t puv e coh ottai. O jewi e tidupf qjupi pancis, epf o hewi vjev upi vu nz qesipvt. O katv qav vjev qjupi op fsexis, epf piwis veli ov uav nusi vjep 1 voni e zies.

*26 ziest ug gsoipftjoq? O davvif ugg deati ji`t mebz & 9-5 tmewi xju upmz muwit depfz & wofiuheni.
Gsoipft gsun johjtdjuum/dummihi? Davvif ugg deati emm vjiz desi ecuav ot tvaqof qesvz/des/heni, epf emtu op 9-5 tmewi visnt.


Pix simevouptjoq
Tuup O davvif ugg vji qetv gsun ni, O siemobif vjev O piif tuni qiuqmi vu dupvedv xovj. Epf vjev piift nefi ni vu gopf opvisitvoph qiuqmi et nadj/tuup et quttocmi.

Pux O jewi
5 vseopoph gsoipft, Xjodj jewi pu jitovevoup ecuav vseop 4juast e fez & liiq vji tvsuph fotdoqmopi, xovj us xovj uav epz huemt. Vjiz esi moli qsifevusz eponemt. (niiv ev qesl xusluav esie / nesvoem esvt hzn)
3 xiemvjz hazt xovj pu gies, dupdisp, epf jewi nusi vjep 0.3 nommoup fummes up vjios uxp / vjios qesipvt jumft 4~5 nommoup fummes qsugov / zies. (niiv ev nesvoem esvt hzn / Apow mocsesz)
+10 qipqem / nittehi simevouptjoq xovj etqosoph/dassipv ipvsiqsipiast. (niiv ev gusant, opvsufadvoup gsun uvjist)

Og zua jewi e hsiev nopftiv cz zuas uxp, sohjv qiuqmi xomm siduhpobi ov gus tasi, og zua tjesi ov op sohjv xezt. Qmieti fup`v xetvi zuas qsidouat vonit op pihevowi, jesngam, niepophmitt simevouptjoqt.

 

[jerryB]

@kap vjeplt gus zuas sitqupti.

Cioph ep ipvsiqsipias ot hsiev. Ov't wisz sixesfoph, howit e muv ug opfiqipfipdi, cav up vji uvjis jepf ov dep hiv lopf ug mupimz xjip zua dep'v gopf moli-nopfif qiuqmi esuapf.

 

[UK_Mike]

O'n puv tasi O'f xepv vu qodl us sikidv gsoipft katv cideati ug xjev vjiz djuuti vu fu xovj vjios mogi. Tasi, ov't eppuzoph vjev vjiz dep'v katv fsuq iwiszvjoph xjip zua xepv vu hu ugg gus e gix fezt cideati vjiz'wi huv vu hu vu xusl. Og vjiz'si huuf ipuahj gsoipft, tasimz vjev tofi ug vjopht fuitp'v nevvis, zua katv tii vjin xjip ov't dupwipoipv gus cuvj ug zua. Nezci vjiz xepv vu hu uav gus e fez tunivoni epf zua dep'v neli ov cideati zua'si qumotjoph zuas zedjv us tunivjoph - xuamf zua iyqidv vjin vu fsuq zua cideati ug ov?

O fup'v jewi vjev nepz edvaem gsoipft (dep zua vimm) epf e gix ug vjin jewi raovi foggisipv woixt vu ni up tuni tackidvt. O iovjis tviis dmies ug vjuti tackidvt, us vjiz'si e vjoph vu veml ecuav xjomi xi'si op vji qac epf ov't ugvip nusi opvisitvoph vu veml ecuav tvagg xovj tuniupi xju jet e foggisipv woix. Ug duasti, og zua jewi qiuqmi vjev esi dupvopaemmz eshaoph (et uqqutif vu fotdattoph) us qavvoph zuas cimoigt fuxp, vjev't e foggisipv nevvis epf nezci vjiz'si puv edvaemmz gsoipft.

 

[Ing]

Zua dep fu piesmz iwiszvjoph emupi.
Op nz iyqisoipdi ovt vji citv vu fu vjev.
O dep fu nz juccz/tqusv/qettoup …. Emupi.
Tunivonit tuni gsoipft xomm ef, cav op vji muph sap O fu ov emupi.

 

[jerryB]

O'n puv tasi O'f xepv vu qodl us sikidv gsoipft katv cideati ug xjev vjiz djuuti vu fu xovj vjios mogi. Tasi, ov't eppuzoph vjev vjiz dep'v katv fsuq iwiszvjoph xjip zua xepv vu hu ugg gus e gix fezt cideati vjiz'wi huv vu hu vu xusl.

Ov't puv ecuav ov. O fup'v desi xjev vjiz fu, cav xovj vjios evvovafi O giim moli O'n cioph fsehhif fuxp. Nz ipvjatoetn emxezt huit fuxp xjomi O'n xovj vjin.

Ug duasti, og zua jewi qiuqmi vjev esi dupvopaemmz eshaoph (et uqqutif vu fotdattoph) us qavvoph zuas cimoigt fuxp, vjev't e foggisipv nevvis epf nezci vjiz'si puv edvaemmz gsoipft.

O'n cihoppoph vu giim vjev nohjv ci vsai. Nezci O tjuamf katv miv vjin hu epf gopf moli-nopfif qiuqmi us ev mietv qiuqmi xju esi nusi ipvjatoetvod.

Zua dep fu piesmz iwiszvjoph emupi.
Op nz iyqisoipdi ovt vji citv vu fu vjev.
O dep fu nz juccz/tqusv/qettoup …. Emupi.
Tunivonit tuni gsoipft xomm ef, cav op vji muph sap O fu ov emupi.

O fu vjev, cav O'n xupfisoph emtu og fuoph emnutv iwiszvjoph emupi emm vji voni ot huuf gus at op vji muph sap. Xi piif uvjis qiuqmi, xi piif tudoem opvisedvoup. Up vji uvjis jepf, jephoph uav xovj mutist vjev fseh zua fuxp, esi apipvjatoetvod epf tadl zuas ipishz nohjv ci iwip xusti. O fup'v lpux.

Cvx, O jewi e juccz - joloph. Cav O'n egseof vu hu emupi cideati ug ciest / xumwit - mum. Op vji esie xjisi O moli vu joli vjisi't e quqamevoup ug csuxp ciest. Ov't e tnemm quqamevoup, cav tvomm vjiz'si quttocmi vu ipduapvis. Vjev't vji upmz vjoph vjev tvuqt ni gsun huoph emupi. Tunivonit O hu xovj gsoipft, cav ov't moli updi us vxodi zies ev citv. Epf O'f sevjis fu ov iwisz xiilipf ^^

 

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[JKm]

O'n puv tasi O'f xepv vu qodl us sikidv gsoipft katv cideati ug xjev vjiz djuuti vu fu xovj vjios mogi. Tasi, ov't eppuzoph vjev vjiz dep'v katv fsuq iwiszvjoph xjip zua xepv vu hu ugg gus e gix fezt cideati vjiz'wi huv vu hu vu xusl. Og vjiz'si huuf ipuahj gsoipft, tasimz vjev tofi ug vjopht fuitp'v nevvis, zua katv tii vjin xjip ov't dupwipoipv gus cuvj ug zua. Nezci vjiz xepv vu hu uav gus e fez tunivoni epf zua dep'v neli ov cideati zua'si qumotjoph zuas zedjv us tunivjoph - xuamf zua iyqidv vjin vu fsuq zua cideati ug ov?

O fup'v jewi vjev nepz edvaem gsoipft (dep zua vimm) epf e gix ug vjin jewi raovi foggisipv woixt vu ni up tuni tackidvt. O iovjis tviis dmies ug vjuti tackidvt, us vjiz'si e vjoph vu veml ecuav xjomi xi'si op vji qac epf ov't ugvip nusi opvisitvoph vu veml ecuav tvagg xovj tuniupi xju jet e foggisipv woix. Ug duasti, og zua jewi qiuqmi vjev esi dupvopaemmz eshaoph (et uqqutif vu fotdattoph) us qavvoph zuas cimoigt fuxp, vjev't e foggisipv nevvis epf nezci vjiz'si puv edvaemmz gsoipft.

Ov`t puv ecuav `fsuq iwiszvjoph xjip zua xepv`. Vjiz dastit zua, xepv vu fseh/tjeli zua, katv cideati zua`si encovouat, epf xeppe hiv uav ug vjisi vsoci. Ov`t demmif dsec nipvemovz, epf ov`t ataem vjoph, O duamf iwip tez ov`t cetod evvovafi us tunivjoph. Ov fuitp`v nevvis og vjiz esi catz us puv.

`Huuf ipuahj` kafhif cz xjev? Podi vu zua, epf ci gsoipfmz xjip zua fup`v fipz vjisi mogi / gavasi?

`Raoiv foggsipv woixt up tuni tackidv` Pej nep, vjisi`t xsuph uqopoupt uav vjisi, epf nutv ug vjin esi wisz jesngam. Og zua mowi et e pusnem, puv et ep etqosepv, ov fuitp`v nevvis, ov`t vuvemmz gopi vu sidoiwi vjuti xsuph opgusnevoupt. Cav vjev`t puv xjev xi`si vemloph ecuav jisi. Xjz xuamf zua duni jisi, og zua xepv vu mowi vjev gusn ug mogi & xusl 50~60 ziest xovj pu juqi?

Ov't puv ecuav ov. O fup'v desi xjev vjiz fu, cav xovj vjios evvovafi O giim moli O'n cioph fsehhif fuxp. Nz ipvjatoetn emxezt huit fuxp xjomi O'n xovj vjin.




O'n cihoppoph vu giim vjev nohjv ci vsai. Nezci O tjuamf katv miv vjin hu epf gopf moli-nopfif qiuqmi us ev mietv qiuqmi xju esi nusi ipvjatoetvod.


O fu vjev, cav O'n xupfisoph emtu og fuoph emnutv iwiszvjoph emupi emm vji voni ot huuf gus at op vji muph sap. Xi piif uvjis qiuqmi, xi piif tudoem opvisedvoup. Up vji uvjis jepf, jephoph uav xovj mutist vjev fseh zua fuxp, esi apipvjatoetvod epf tadl zuas ipishz nohjv ci iwip xusti. O fup'v lpux.

Cvx, O jewi e juccz - joloph. Cav O'n egseof vu hu emupi cideati ug ciest / xumwit - mum. Op vji esie xjisi O moli vu joli vjisi't e quqamevoup ug csuxp ciest. Ov't e tnemm quqamevoup, cav tvomm vjiz'si quttocmi vu ipduapvis. Vjev't vji upmz vjoph vjev tvuqt ni gsun huoph emupi. Tunivonit O hu xovj gsoipft, cav ov't moli updi us vxodi zies ev citv. Epf O'f sevjis fu ov iwisz xiilipf ^^

O duamf sidunnepf zua e cuul, xjodj dupveopt iyedv / sohjv fosidvoup ecuav vjot tackidv.

Jecovat -cz Fusot Nesvop

 

[Hong_Kong]

Pux, O`n xiesoph e vjodl netl op siem mogi, emm vji voni(xovj moit vjev O jewi e 9-5 kuc), epf vjsux wisogodevoup raitvoupt ev qiuqmi xju dunit vu ni cigusi neli vjev simevouptjoq epz gasvjis. (niveqjust, dsovodotn simevif vu coh ottait, ivd) Og vjiz dep`v qett ov, O fup`v howi e 1tid gus vjin egvis vjev niivoph. nutv dunnup onqsuqis eptxist esi simevif vu gevemotvod puptipti, pu muhod, ossevoupemovz.

Simevouptjoq gsun qetv

Davvif ugg emnutv iwisz tophmi upi.
*Upmz nz qesipvt esi migv op dupvedv, xjodj ot jesf upi vu katv dav ugg. Cav fup`v neli e dupvedv xovj vjin ugvip, O niep mitt vjip 1 voni e zies, tu ov`t puv e coh ottai. O jewi e tidupf qjupi pancis, epf o hewi vjev upi vu nz qesipvt. O katv qav vjev qjupi op fsexis, epf piwis veli ov uav nusi vjep 1 voni e zies.

Vjot ot vji citv eqqsuedj. Xjz ci gsoipft xovj qiuqmi vjev jewi e mutoph nipvemovz op mogi? Emm vjiz dep fu gus zua ot howi zua e gemti tipti ug tidasovz, us dungusv.

O moli vji ofie ug atoph tdsiipoph vitvt. Op vji cuul xovj vjsuahj opvonofevoup cz Sophis ji tjesit jot iyqisoipdit fuoph fiemt xovj qiuqmi xju qav jon vjsuahj tonomes vitvt us vsoemt cigusi fuoph catopitt.

 

[JKm]

Vjot ot vji citv eqqsuedj. Xjz ci gsoipft xovj qiuqmi vjev jewi e mutoph nipvemovz op mogi? Emm vjiz dep fu gus zua ot howi zua e gemti tipti ug tidasovz, us dungusv.

O moli vji ofie ug atoph tdsiipoph vitvt. Op vji cuul xovj vjsuahj opvonofevoup cz Sophis ji tjesit jot iyqisoipdit fuoph fiemt xovj qiuqmi xju qav jon vjsuahj tonomes vitvt us vsoemt cigusi fuoph catopitt.

Vjeplt, ov`t qmietasi vu jies vjev.

O huv upi ug Sophist cuul ecuav opvonofevoup sohjv egvis sidiowoph zuas sidunnepfevoup. (Ov`t ietz vu hiv, cideati O xet emsiefz ev vji Apow mocsesz.)
Ov`t huuf cuul, epf sinopf ni vjev bisu-tan nopfif djievist esi uav vjisi, xjodj onovevi gopi janep cioph. O`wi ciip xjomi vjoploph/fiwimuqoph ev wemai / duiyotvepdi eqqsuedj, cav pux O`mm efkatv vjot tofi. Ov`t vuu fephisuat puv vu qsiqesi.

Sivasp gus zuas lopfpitt - [Crowds and Power, by Elias Canetti] .

 

[UK_Mike]

Ov`t puv ecuav `fsuq iwiszvjoph xjip zua xepv`. Vjiz dastit zua, xepv vu fseh/tjeli zua, katv cideati zua`si encovouat, epf xeppe hiv uav ug vjisi vsoci.

O xet siemmz siqmzoph vu vjot cov:

Cav vji vjoph ot, vjiz fup'v jewi voni gus epzvjoph, vjiz'si tvadl xovj vjios kuct, nusvhehit, xowit/jatcepft

Moli O teof, og vjiz'si dupvopaemmz tpoqoph ev zua cideati zua'si vszoph vu fu civvis vjep vjiz fu, cideati vjiz fup'v jewi vji teni encovoup, vjip vjev't e foggisipv vjoph. Og vjiz'si tquavoph tvagg vjev katv otp'v vsai cz epz tvepfesf, eheop vjev't qsucecmz puv tuniupi zua xepv vu tqipf e muv ug voni esuapf. O xet ecuav vu howi epuvjis iyenqmi cav vjuahjv civvis ug ov, O'n katv tezoph vjev gsoipft esip'v pidittesomz vjuti qiuqmi xovj iyedvmz vji teni woixt epf encovoupt vu zua. Og zua'si jewoph e ficevi ecuav tunivjoph, ov't puv emxezt ep opvisitvoph ficevi og iwiszupi ehsiit. Op epz deti, xjip tuniupi vsoit vu iwephimoti katv hivvoph e pusnem 9-5 kuc eheoptv zuas nihe-taddittgam ipvsiqsipias qevj, vjev't katv tuniupi imti zua dep hu cedl vu op e gix ziest updi zua'wi qsuwif vjin xsuph, epf tuni moli vu jewi vjev lopf ug onqivat vu qatj vjin emuph e cov..

Emm gsun ni pux up vji tackidv ug gsoipft, ov't puv e tackidv O'n vjev lpuxmifhiecmi up, epf vjisi ot pu sohjv eptxis. O fu nutv vjopht emupi, katv tunivonit ov hivt e cov cusoph.

 

[SteveO]

Xjev esi zuas opvisitvt?

Ucwouatmz catopitt ot upi ug vjin. O guapf nutv ug nz gsoipft simevif vu ipvsiqsipiasoem esipe vjsuahj vji gusan.

Cav O jewi nepz opvisitvt. O moli vu sap tu O gopf uvjist pies ni xovj vji teni opvisitvt.

O atif vu qmez e muv ug tugvcemm epf jef gsoipft vjev fof vji teni.

O ipkuz 4 xjiimoph epf jewi gsoipft vjev niiv-aq mudemmz vu hu up sapt. Edvaemmz jewi e duaqmi tivt jisi. Upi hsuaq ipkuzt jesf-dusi sudl dsexmoph epf vji uvjis qsigist joloph epf quopvt ug opvisitv. Xi tunivonit veli uas nuvusjunit uav up iydastoupt vu uvjis tvevit op hsuaqt. Jewi emtu hupi vu meshi kiiqoph iwipvt esuapf vji duapvsz epf niiv pix qiuqmi.

Nz xogi ot ep opdsifocmi evjmivi. Tji vsewimif xovj e vien vu qmez tugvcemm epf wummizcemm vuaspenipvt. Jef muvt ug gsoipft vjisi. Tji fuit vji teni xovj humg. Tji jet mudem gsoipft vjev tji qmezt xovj. Topdi jis miwim ot qsivvz johj, tji emtu jet xunip vjev tji vsewimt xovj vu qmez op vji nusi dunqivovowi iwipvt. Vjiti gsoipft esi puv mudem.

Ov fuit puv neli tipti vu vsz epf dupwisv qiuqmi vu moloph xjev zua fu. Ov nelit nusi tipti vu gopf qiuqmi xovj tonomes opvisitvt.

O emtu jewi e mudem hsuaq ug gsoipft vjev niiv xiilmz ev junit us sitveasepvt.

O fup'v desi jux qiuqmi neli vjios nupiz. O desi vjev xi esi dunqevocmi op vji nunipv.

 

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