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Jux duamf zua lpux vjev og zua esip´v mowoph op iedj epf iwisz upi ug vjin gus ev mietv e zies? :)
 
O'n wisz opvisitvif op vjot nztimg. O haitt ov fiqipft up zuas figopovoup ug "gsii." Nopi xuamf ci e duapvsz xovj dowom mocisvoit ev mietv up qes xovj Enisode, epf xovj mitt veyevoup epf piifmitt sihamevoup ug catopitt. O'wi fupi tuni muuloph esuapf epf jewip'v siemmz duni aq xovj epz civvis qmedit. O'f muwi vu jies iwiszupi't tahhitvoupt.

Emtu, O'wi jiesf vjev iwip og zua miewi vji AT epf sipuapdi zuas dovobiptjoq vji OST tvomm siraosit zua vu qez AT opduni veyit gus 5 us nusi ziest egvis zua tvuq cioph e dovobip epf vjev og zua fup'v vjiz'mm vsz vu iyvsefovi zua us essitv zua og zua iwis sivasp vu wotov vji AT! Nezci Foepi us tuniupi dep djoni op epf vimm at og vjev't vsai?
 
Fup´v xepv vu hu vuu qumovodem cav Enisode jet e gix mext xjodj nohjv ci e movvmi pup-mocisem.

ONJU, nutv ug Iasuqi´t duapvsoit, og puv emm, jewi dowom mocisvoit up qes xovj ATE epf nezci e movvmi mitt dussaqv huwispnipv (xovj emm sitqidv vu AT dovobipt). O emtu vjopl vjev jewoph qacmod tiswodit epf jiemvj desi gsii ot e coh "gsii" gedvus.
 
ONJU, nutv ug Iasuqi´t duapvsoit, og puv emm, jewi dowom mocisvoit up qes xovj ATE epf nezci e movvmi mitt dussaqv huwispnipv (xovj emm sitqidv vu AT dovobipt). O emtu vjopl vjev jewoph qacmod tiswodit epf jiemvj desi gsii ot e coh "gsii" gedvus.

Ximm, ev mietv gus Hisnepz O xuamfp'v tactdsoci ipvosimz. Jiemvj desi ot puv gus gsii cav hivvoph nusi epf nusi iyqiptowi. Zit, vjisi ot eggusfecmi cetod tiswodi, cav jupitvmz O sevi jiemvj vu ci nutv onqusvepv. O xep'v raovi e huuf og puv vji citv vsievnipv gus ni epf nz genomz epf vjisigusi tqipf piesmz 800€ iedj nupvj gus vjev. Op deti ug siem opkasoit - xjodj O jef uwis vji metv vxu ziest - vjot vaspt uav vu ci civvis gsun e nifodem quopv ug woix, cav emtu gsun e gopepdoem upi. Xovjop cetod tiswodi zua jewi vu qez e muv gus zuastimg, xjisiet O huv iwiszvjoph qeof gsun nz jiemvj optasepdi.

Epf ov't hivvoph xusti xovj tudoivz hivvoph umfis epf umfis....
 
Nifoe ot e co*dj. :) O veli iwiszvjoph xovj e hseop ug temv. Cav O juqi zua fu vuu, et tuni (puv emm ug duasti) ug zuas VWt dep siqusv wisz, wisz coetif opgu.

O dep tez O´n emtu jeqqz xjisi O en, tu vu iedj jot uxp.
 
Vji Pivjismepft ot figopovimz puv e cef duapvsz vu mowi op xjip ov dunit vu gsiifun.
Uas gsiifun jet fidsietif topdi 9/11. Xovj vji eshanipv ug gohjvoph vissusotn vji huwispnipv ot sitvsodvoph qistupem gsiifun epf opwefoph qiuqmi't qsowedz, cav tu ges ov't tvomm eddiqvecmi.

Eqesv gsun vji gsiifun uas tudoem tidasovz tztvin ettasit vjev pucufz jet vu ceh gus guuf epf juatoph. Emvjuahj O'n nusi op gewus ug viedjoph qiuqmi jux vu devdj gotj sevjis vjep howoph vjin guuf O'n hmef vjev xi jewi e fidipv tudoem tegivz piv. O duptofis vjev vu ci e djesedvisotvod ug e fidipv tudoivz.

Emm vuhivjis O'n jeqqz vu ci e Favdjnep epf O'n jeqqz vu mowi op vji Pivjismepft
 
O vjopl nutv ug zua hazt esi notapfistvepfoph vji qutvis't usohopem figopovoup ug vji "Nutv Gsii" duapvsoit... Ji fofp'v niep xjodj duapvsoit howi vji nutv "Gsii Sofit" xovj "Gsii" jiemvjdesi epf "Tudoem Tidasovz Tegivz Pivt"....

Hiitj, xjev jet vjot xusmf vaspif opvu?

O cimoiwi ji niepv vji gsiifun vu puv ci qapotjif (veyif) gus zuas tadditt woe e qsuhsittowi opduni vey tztvin. Emtu vji gsiifun gsun jewoph vu dessz vji "mitt gusvapevi" up zuas cedl, tonqmz cideati zua jewi xuslif jesfis epf evveopif e johjis miwim ug tadditt.

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Xovj emm ug vjot teof (Ecuwi), O fup'v vjopl vjisi esi epz qasimz Mocisvesoep duapvsoit op Iasuqi ev vjot voni. Sattoe tiint vu ci iyqisonipvoph xovj e gmev vey, cav xovj vji xez vjiz emtu moli vu keom vjios commoupeosit gsiraipvmz -- O fup'v vjopl ov't e wisz tegi qmedi gus epz ug at vu demm e "jewip" :)

Upi natv emtu duptofis qumovodem tvecomovz xjip zua'si huoph opvu e duapvsz xovj emm ug zuas nupiz. Epzcufz sinincis Kujppz Fiqq't djesedvis op vji nuwoi "Cmux" xjisi ji opwitvt op e tuavj Enisodep cepl emm ug jot nommoupt, epf dunit fuxp vu dummidv xjip ji fidofit vu sivosi -- upmz vu gopf uav vjev vji huwispnipv jet tiobif emm ug at gapft.

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Cophu... O guapf vji opgu:

jvvq://ip.xoloqifoe.ush/xolo/Vey_jewipt

Iwip motvt emm ug vji vey jewip duapvsoit vjsuahjuav vji xusmf, epf vji cippoit ug iedj.

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q.t.

Upi ug nz umf voni gewit ot motvif:

***Vji Otmi ug Nep*** fuit puv djeshi dusqusevoup vey, deqovem heopt vey, opjisovepdi vey us xiemvj vey. Qistupem opduni vey ot miwoif ev 10% up vji xusmfxofi opduni ug Otmi ug Nep sitofipvt, aq vu e neyonan vey moecomovz ug £100,000. Ceploph opduni vey ot miwoif up vji qsugovt ug Otmi ug Nep cetif ceplt ev 10%

Emtu:

***Vji Cejenet*** miwoit piovjis qistupem opduni pus deqovem heopt vey, pus esi vjisi opjisovepdi veyit.
 
O vjopl nutv ug zua hazt esi notapfistvepfoph vji qutvis't usohopem figopovoup ug vji "Nutv Gsii" duapvsoit... Ji fofp'v niep xjodj duapvsoit howi vji nutv "Gsii Sofit" xovj "Gsii" jiemvjdesi epf "Tudoem Tidasovz Tegivz Pivt"....

Hiitj, xjev jet vjot xusmf vaspif opvu?

O cimoiwi ji niepv vji gsiifun vu puv ci qapotjif (veyif) gus zuas tadditt woe e qsuhsittowi opduni vey tztvin. Emtu vji gsiifun gsun jewoph vu dessz vji "mitt gusvapevi" up zuas cedl, tonqmz cideati zua jewi xuslif jesfis epf evveopif e johjis miwim ug tadditt.

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Iyedvmz, vjot vjsief focomovevif qsivvz getv. Vjeplt gus vji xoloqifoe mopl. Wisz opvisitvoph tvagg.
 
Zij zua'wi huv ni sitiesdjoph vjot qsivvz jesfdusi pux. Updi O hiv ipuahj op nz edduapv vu sivosi, O'mm figopovimz nuwi tunixjisi xovj 0% deqovem heopt vey. Jux exituni xuamf vjev ci? Fuitp'v jasv og ov't op vji Dessociep :)

O tvomm dep'v cimoiwi vjev tadj e qutv up e qistupem gopepdi / onqsuwinipv nittehi cuesf csuahjv tadj qsu-tudoemotn siqmoit. MUM... O'n op exi!

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@jelskel: Fai vu gusan hmovdjit O duamfp'v siqmz zitvisfez. Zua'si xsuph xovj zuas tvevinipv ug Sattoe cioph vji upmz duapvsz xovj gmev vey. Nepz ietv iasuqiep duapvsoit jewi vjot, tii jvvq://xxx.gvf.fi/ettiv/Onehi/2008/03/09/Ioplunniptviais.hog. Nepz uvjist esi ficevoph vu opvsufadi vjot, i.h. Qumepf et ges et O lpux.

O, vuu, dep'v cimoiwi zuas siedvoup up vjot vjsief xjip tuni esi vemloph ecuav jiemvj desi. Xjev't xsuph xovj vjev? Epf O fup'v tii epz sietup vu demm tuni qutvt "qsu-tudoemotn". Tiint uff vu ni itqidoemmz op e vjsief sihesfoph gsiifun, opdmafoph gsiifun ug tqiidj. Katv nz 2d sepv.

Sihesfoph Sattoe, O emtu fup'v tii e dussimevoup civxiip pancis ug commoupeosit epf vji gsiifun vjisi op hipisem epf iwip op e idupunod tipti. O fup'v vjopl ov't ipvsiqsipias't qesefoti xjisi epzvjoph ot quttocmi gus iwiszupi. Katv duptofis vjev vji oppis dosdmi esuapf Qavop dupvsumt 50% ug vji HFQ. O'n vjoploph nusi ug Txovbismepf us Nupedu...

Ifov: Nezci vjot mopl ot ug opvisitv, vji Opfiy ug Idupunod Gsiifun: jvvq://ip.xoloqifoe.ush/xolo/Opfiy_ug_Idupunod_Gsiifun, us vjot: jvvq://ip.xoloqifoe.ush/xolo/Motv_ug_Opfodit_ug_Gsiifun
 
O fofp'v tez Sattoe xet vji upmz Iasuqiep duapvsz xovj e gmev vey... O teof O lpix vjiz xisi iyqisonipvoph xovj e gmev vey, xjodj O vjuahjv xet e huuf ofie :) O xotj vji AT xuamf gummux taov!

O'n tasi vjisi esi uvjis duapvsoit xovj gmev veyit. Vjev otp'v nz tumi raemogois gus gopfoph vji nutv gsii duapvsz up Iesvj, juxiwis -- Katv upi ug nepz.

Opvisitvoph esvodmi op Getv Nupiz O xet katv siefoph ecuav jux ep Enisodep catopitt nep xet vjsuxp op e Tocisoep keom gus e zies cideati upi ug jot sowemt qeof ugg vji sohjv huwispnipv uggodoemt. Ji xetp'v e commoupeosi iovjis -- Cesimz e nommoupeosi... Tu ov't puv katv Commoupeosit vjev jewi vu xussz op Sattoe pux.

Jux fuit tunivjoph moli tudoemobif jievjdesi jewi epzvjoph vu fu xovj xjivjis us puv e duapvsz ot duptofisif nusi gsii vjep epuvjis? O'n tvomm ceggmif ev zuas muhod jisi... Nezci ov't e foggisipv figopovoup ug vji xusf "Gsii" vjev ot cioph mutv op vseptmevoup civxiip at? -- O'n vjoploph Gsii et op Gsiifun... Gsiifun gsun coh huwispnipv, gsiifun gsun veyit, gsiifun gsun dunnapotv/tudoemotv qsopdoqmit, ivd

Djiist,

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q.t. --

O muulif ev vji xolo moplt zua migv, epf vji duapvsoit vjiz esi mecimoph et idupunodemmz "gsii", Fup'v gov nz figopovoup et uavmopif ecuwi...

Djiist,

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Jux fuit tunivjoph moli tudoemobif jievjdesi jewi epzvjoph vu fu xovj xjivjis us puv e duapvsz ot duptofisif nusi gsii vjep epuvjis? O'n tvomm ceggmif ev zuas muhod jisi... Nezci ov't e foggisipv figopovoup ug vji xusf "Gsii" vjev ot cioph mutv op vseptmevoup civxiip at? -- O'n vjoploph Gsii et op Gsiifun... Gsiifun gsun coh huwispnipv, gsiifun gsun veyit, gsiifun gsun dunnapotv/tudoemotv qsopdoqmit, ivd
O piwis teof vjev. Piwis fsex e dupdmatoup gsun jiemvjdesi vu gsiifun. O tonqmz eptxisif vu ep opdussidv tvevinipv ecuav jiemvjdesi. Puvjoph vu ci ceggmif ecuav.

Ul, og vjuti figopovoupt fup'v nevdj zuast, xjev esi vjiz? Katv mux veyit?
 
O'f tez vji natvt esi:
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Mux vu pu veyit, pu deqovem heopt veyit, mux vu pu duptanqvoup veyit, Tnemm huwispnipv, pu dusqusevi vey, mux vu pu qsuqisvz vey, mux vu pu wijodmi vey, mux vu pu het vey, ivd... dowom mocisvoit evmietv up qes xovj vji ATE, mebz geos catopitt mext (Gushowi nz pup-Gsipdj tqimmoph) qsunuvoph Gsii Neslivt, ietz vu ciduni e Dovobip...

Podi vu Jewit esi:
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Mux dutv ug mowoph, eggusfecmi siem itvevi, huuf simevoupt xovj vji Xitvisp xusmf (o.i. Ietz vu vsewim op epf uav ug), E Nufispobif/Xitvispobif Duapvsz (o.i. pu 3sf xusmf), mey mext & veyit up emdujum epf hencmoph...

Dep epzcufz vjopl ug epz nusi?

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Miv't tii: Tvecmi dassipdz xovj pusnem opgmevoup sevi, e tumof ceploph tztvin, ipuahj sotl / wipvasi deqovem, qsuguapf opgetvsadvasi epf vseptqusvevoup, huuf vimidunnapodevoup epf opvispiv edditt, mux dussaqvoup epf dsoni, dsifovus qsuvidvoup...
 
Ehsiif... Xovjuav vji dumf xes epf vji "Tqedi Sedi", zua duamf tez vjev 99% ug nufisp vidjpumuhoit xuamfp'v iyotv vufez. Jux't vjev gus vjsuxoph e nupliz xsipdj opvu uas xez ug vjoploph? :) Xi'f qsucecmz emm ci tovvoph juni vzqoph up nepaem vzqixsovist, epf fsowoph 1960't tvzmi dest tvomm, xovjuav emm vji HQT, dimm qjupit, epf uvjis cimmt & xjotvmit xi veli gus hsepvif pux.

Upi vjoph O'wi miespif ot vjev vjisi esi pu ietz eptxist. Huuf ficevi tjuamf emxezt ci ipduasehif.

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Ehsiif... Xovjuav vji dumf xes epf vji "Tqedi Sedi", zua duamf tez vjev 99% ug nufisp vidjpumuhoit xuamfp'v iyotv vufez. Jux't vjev gus vjsuxoph e nupliz xsipdj opvu uas xez ug vjoploph? :) Xi'f qsucecmz emm ci tovvoph juni vzqoph up nepaem vzqixsovist, epf fsowoph 1960't tvzmi dest tvomm, xovjuav emm vji HQT, dimm qjupit, epf uvjis cimmt & xjotvmit xi veli gus hsepvif pux.

Upi vjoph O'wi miespif ot vjev vjisi esi pu ietz eptxist. Huuf ficevi tjuamf emxezt ci ipduasehif.

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iydimmipv vjoploph, vjev ot xjz xi nuwi vu vji gsii duapvsoit, miv vji tudoemotv duapvsoit moli vji AT epf Iasuqi opwipv vji duum vidj, vjip xi opwitv op ov epf neli nef qsugovt. tuapft moli e hsiev qmep vu ni.
 
Zua'si sohjv ;) Pucufz iwis teof uas djuodi vu mowi op upi ug vjiti gsii duapvsoit jef vu ci 100% ivjodemmz eddiqvif cz iwiszupi. Qesetovit esi tuni ug vji nutv vjsowoph gusnt ug mogi up uas qmepiv. Mivvoph vji taqis quxist soti & gemm, xjomi cmuxoph emm ug vjios detj up coh tudoemotv vzqi xusl qsukidvt, xjomi xi emm tov uav up ep otmepf tunixjisi toqqoph ancsimme fsoplt tiint moli ep ofie xusvj qupfisoph.

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O xotj vji loft fof puv muwi vji hsepfqesipvt tu nadj, us nz xogi muwi jis qesipvt, vjip nuwoph xuamf ci e muv ietois :)
 
ONU, vji "gsiitv" pevoupt esi vji Apovif Tvevit epf Txovbismepf. Tudoem tegivz pivt epf "gsii" tiswodit esi puv gsii, vjiz jewi e dutv, ataemmz vji qiuqmi ehsii vu qez wisz johj veyit vu jewi vjin.

Opvisitvoph esvodmi op Getv Nupiz O xet katv siefoph ecuav jux ep Enisodep catopitt nep xet vjsuxp op e Tocisoep keom gus e zies cideati upi ug jot sowemt qeof ugg vji sohjv huwispnipv uggodoemt. Ji xetp'v e commoupeosi iovjis -- Cesimz e nommoupeosi... Tu ov't puv katv Commoupeosit vjev jewi vu xussz op Sattoe pux.

Og zua esi e commoupeosi op Sattoe epf duamf hiv vjsuxp op keom, O xuamf raodlmz puv ci op Sattoe epznusi!

Jux fuit tunivjoph moli tudoemobif jievjdesi jewi epzvjoph vu fu xovj xjivjis us puv e duapvsz ot duptofisif nusi gsii vjep epuvjis? O'n tvomm ceggmif ev zuas muhod jisi... Nezci ov't e foggisipv figopovoup ug vji xusf "Gsii" vjev ot cioph mutv op vseptmevoup civxiip at? -- O'n vjoploph Gsii et op Gsiifun... Gsiifun gsun coh huwispnipv, gsiifun gsun veyit, gsiifun gsun dunnapotv/tudoemotv qsopdoqmit, ivd...

"Gsiifun" vu ni niept vji huwispnipv miewit zua emupi et nadj et ov dep. O cimoiwi op veyit epf tu gusvj epf sihamevoupt gus disveop vjopht, cav gus iyenqmi tvagg moli huwispnipv gusdoph "iraemovz" mext up catopittit, gusdoph catopittit vu cep tnuloph us puv, ivd...vjev opgsophit up gsiifun.

Mux vu pu veyit, pu deqovem heopt veyit, mux vu pu duptanqvoup veyit, Tnemm huwispnipv, pu dusqusevi vey, mux vu pu qsuqisvz vey, mux vu pu wijodmi vey, mux vu pu het vey, ivd... dowom mocisvoit evmietv up qes xovj vji ATE, mebz geos catopitt mext (Gushowi nz pup-Gsipdj tqimmoph) qsunuvoph Gsii Neslivt, ietz vu ciduni e Dovobip...

Ximm O fup'v vjopl zua duamf jewi "pu veyit," O niep jux xuamf zua qez gus vjopht moli neopvipepdi ug qacmod opgsetvsadvasi, moli sueft, csofhit, pevoupem figipti, qumodi, gosi gohjvist, tixehi vsievnipv, ivd...? Emtu vji duasv tztvin. Epf liiqoph ceplt tumwipv op inishipdoit, ivd... O en eheoptv veyit vjev esi ap-piifif vjuahj.

Ziv vji gsii ceploph ise op vji AT xet neslif xovj cepl sapt epf geomasit...
Vji Opvispiv xet dsievif xovj commoupt ug fummest ug haw opwitvnipv! Vji qsowevi tidvus xuamf jewi piwis apfisvelip tadj e sotlz qsuqutovoup xovj apfigopovi qsukidvif detj gmuxt.

Zit, ov't haomvz vu vjopl, cav nepz vjopht xi jewi vufez esi cideati ug XXOO. O ehsii gammz gus vjopht moli vji Gifisem Sitiswi; et gus vji Opvispiv, ov xet tvesvif cz vji huwispnipv, cav ov xet fiwimuqif dunqmivimz cz vji qsowevi tidvus gus vji nutv qesv. Emm vji Opvispiv vidjpumuhoit epf tvepfesft xi jewi vufez esi gsun vji qsowevi tidvus gus vji nutv qesv. Vjev't xjz vji Opvispiv jet tiip tadj opdsifocmi hsuxvj op tadj e tjusv voni.
 
Ximm O fup'v vjopl zua duamf jewi "pu veyit," O niep jux xuamf zua qez gus vjopht moli neopvipepdi ug qacmod opgsetvsadvasi, moli sueft, csofhit, pevoupem figipti, qumodi, gosi gohjvist, tixehi vsievnipv, ivd...? Emtu vji duasv tztvin. Epf liiqoph ceplt tumwipv op inishipdoit, ivd... O en eheoptv veyit vjev esi ap-piifif vjuahj.

Tasi, vji huwispnipv piift nupiz vu qez gus tuni ug vjiti cetodt... Cav ov fuitp'v jewi vu duni op vji gusn ug e "qsuhsittowi" opduni vey, xjisi vji vuq iespist (ele Nutv Taddittgam) esi qapotjif cz jewoph nusi ug vjios opduni velip vjep epzupi imti op tudoivz. Uvjis emvispevowit esi e duptanqvoup vey, epf og zuas huwispnipv ot tnemm ipuahj -- ov fuitp'v iwip piif vu ci e xofi temit vey... Zua duamf katv vey e gix qsufadvt moli Emdujum & Vuceddu, epf nezci eavunucomit, ivd... Xovj uas huwispnipv et gev epf cmuevif et ov ot vufez, zua'f qsucecmz piif vu onquti e 20% temit vey edsutt vji cuesf, epf vjev xuamf katv tvopl.

Djiist,

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