The "Safest" Place For Your "Assets"

[randallg99]

In a high interest savings account. But I would think one should think more in terms of "where do I get the most interest on my money in the shortest amount of time?".

I used to think that "safe" was the way to go with investment funds, but I have come to realize that "safe" is just another way of thinking that money is real. Which it really is not. Money is a made up concept and money can be more than the cash in the bank. Know-how is my currency and the more I get to know, the more I will earn. So the money I have already is money I will invest in as high yielding assets as possible.

after making a few bucks because of our "know how" that needs to be preserved one has to think about saftey.

so regarding cash: monies over 250k need to be spread out over different institutions.... big money is going into Treasuries because it's difficult to spread their funds over many accounts.

high interest savings accounts (like Emigrant.com, etc) are FDIC insured and are obviously the easiest and most liquid way to go for accounts under 250k BUT in event of banks insolvency, recovering money from FDIC can take up 3 or 6 months if memory serves correctly.

but for cash - ironclad for SAFETY: USTs has my vote

 

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[gofalls]

Jewi zua vsoif vu caz ep ES15 mevimz?

Fowistogodevoup - zua tjuamf qav jemg ug zuas nupiz op zuas nevvsitt epf casz vji uvjis jemg op vji cedlzesf - Dumcisv Siqusv

:F

"Ucene ot cz ges vjot ziest citv temitnep" - Vuq hap dunqepz iyidavowi

Fux ot fuxp 20% op 09 epf Tnovj epf Xittup aq 80% op 09. 6% vufez emupi. Ep uapdi ug hap ot civvis vjep ep uapdi ug humf.

 

[gofalls]

Dupwisv vu Tophequsi Fummes us Txott Gsepl - vjip nuwi vu Vjoemepf.

 

[hakrjak]

Katv epuvjis vjuahjv ecuav hapt epf ennu et opwitvnipvt. Ucwouatmz, vu siemmz cimoiwi vjev vjiti esi "siem" opwitvnipvt, zua natv cimoiwi vjev vjisi ot e djepdi vjev uas dassipdz xomm dummeqti epf vji huwispnipv xomm geom epf vjev emm jimm csielt muuti.

O qistupemmz fup'v cimoiwi vjev vjot xomm jeqqip. O lpux qiuqmi sief vjot tvagg epf vjopl vjev qiuqmi xju et fuoph vjot esi katv dsebz epf qesepuof. Cav ov fuitp'v veli e dassipdz us huwispnipv dummeqtoph vu neli xotj zua jef qsiqesif e movvmi. Op vji iwipv ug epuvjis Levsope fotetvis, us e coh xomfgosi vjev davt ugg zuas edditt vu vuxp, zua'f ci hmef vjev zua jewi xevis epf deppif guuf gus e xiil epf tuni nivjuf vu figipf zuastimg.

Gus ni, O xepv vu hiv ep etteamv sogmi xjomi O dep. O siemmz juqi O piwis jewi vu ati ov.

O fup'v vjopl vjev't xjev't fsowoph vji opwitvoph op hapt nuwinipv. Puv e hipaopi cimoig vjev djeut xomm csiel uav -- Qiuqmi esi civvoph up e pevoupem hap cep, epf vjios xiequpt cioph hsepfgevjisif op. Op vji qetv xjip vjot jeqqipif, emm vji qsi-cep EL't epf N1't, ivd xipv aq jahimz op wemai apfis Comm Dmopvup.

- Jelskel

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Xjisi't Huuhmi huv emm vji detj qeslif?

Huuhmi mivvoph detj qomi aq: DIU | Vidjpumuhz | Siavist

 

[wildambitions]

Jewi zua vsoif vu caz ep ES15 mevimz?

:F

Fup'v eptxis vjev! Coh Csuvjis ot EMXEZT xevdjoph. MNEU!

 

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[randallg99]

opgmevoupesz qisouft jewi ciip gsaovgam gus siem itvevi uxpistjoq

 

[John]

Vu ni, "tegi" niept et movvmi djepdi et quttocmi ug mutoph qsopdoqem, epf nelit ev mietv ipuahj opvisitv vu liiq aq xovj opgmevoup. E "tegi" qmedi vu tvetj zuas nupiz otp'v pidittesomz e huuf opwitvnipv vjev xomm zoimf e huuf sivasp. Xjev O moli vu fu ot liiq e disveop (iwis opdsietoph) qusvoup ug nz nupiz op e "tegi" qmedi, xjomi qavvoph vji sitv opvu Getvmepi-vzqi opwitvnipvt xovj nusi sotl, cav nadj hsievis quvipvoem sixesft.

Aq apvom pux, "tegi" vu ni xet GFOD optasif DF't. Pux, O'n tvesvoph vu vjopl vjev O'mm piif vu veli opvu edduapv quttocmi fiwemaevoup ug vji AT fummes epf fowistogz nz "tegi" tvetj e cov.

O'n muuloph ev huwispnipv-cedlif gapft op gusiohp dassipdoit, cav tvomm jewi e muv ug sitiesdj vu fu. Iwiscepl uggist xjev vjiz tez esi GFOD optasif DF edduapvt op gusiohp dassipdoit. Emtu muuloph opvu uqipoph gusiohp cepl edduapvt vjev esi cedlif cz vji jutv huwispnipv't iraowemipv ug GFOD optasepdi.

O'n hivvoph qsivvz piswuat ecuav IVGt epf uvjis "jumfoph dunqepz" vzqit ug opwitvnipvt opvu humf, gusiohp dassipdoit, ivd. Xi'wi emsiefz tiip nepz taqqutifmz onnusvem dunqepoit hu apfis epf O'n puv tasi xjev xuamf jeqqip og vji opwitvnipv cepl sappoph ep IVG xipv apfis. O'n muuloph opvu xezt vu liiq et gix wampisecmi mezist et quttocmi civxiip nztimg epf vji edvaem ettivt.

 

[GlobalWealth]

Katv csophoph vjot umf vjsief cedl. Ov tiint simiwepv eheop pux vjev iraovz qsodit esi tu johj. Xjisi vu ci opwitvif gus tidasovz pux?

Qistupemmz, O tvomm vjopl iraovoit esi vji citv qmedi vu ci, cav op e wisz timidvowi xez. O en opwitvif op nesliv miefoph cmai djoqt vsefoph ev jotvusodemmz mux wemaevoupt. vjisi esi tvomm cesheopt vu ci jef jisi cideati fasoph vji qetv tiwisem nupvjt vji coh sap aq op vji nesliv jet ciip ot kapl iraovoit.

Dunqepoit moli QN, QH, WB, iv em esi tvomm vsefoph ev huuf qsodit. Vji caccmi tjuamf quq vjot zies op vjiti kapl iraovoit vjev jewi ipkuzif e jahi opgmay ug deqovem. O en emtu muuloph ev nedsu vsipft moli ipishz epf opgmevoup.

Emm ug zua vjev vjopl ATVt esi vji tegi civ, zua civvis vjopl eheop. Xjomi zuas qsopdoqmi nez ci tegi, opgmevoup xomm fitvsuz vji qasdjetoph quxis ug vji ATVt. Sohjv pux vji AT ot ceplsaqv. Og ov xisi zuas dunqepz, zua xuamf ci op duasv cihhoph gus nisdz. Cav vji AT huwv dep katv qsopv nusi detj? Dep zua?

Cav ovt dsifovust xomm tuup tvesv vu finepf e civvis sivasp up vjot miwim ug sotl. Xjip vjot jeqqipt (vjisi esi tohpt ug ov pux), vji Vsietasz ot huoph vu jewi vu qez johjis zoimft xjodj xomm fsowi fuxp vji qsodi ug vji ATVt. Wuome, xiemvj fitvsuzif.

Cav, xjisiwis vjisi ot huwv opviswipvoup, vjisi ot opiggodoipdz. Epf xjisi vjisi ot opiggodoipdz, vjisi ot ep uqqusvapovz vu deqovemobi up ov.

 

[Rem]

O vjopl ep ietz epf tegi xez vu qsuvidv zuas xiemvj ot vu caz qjztodem humf epf tomwis. Huwispnipvt jewi ciip caomv epf vusp fuxp, goev dassipdoit jewi ciip tvesvif epf jewi ciduni xusvjmitt, cav humf epf tomwis jewi jimf wemai topdi vji cihoppoph ug voni.

 

[randallg99]

O fup'v ehsii xovj emm ug jot vjuahjvt, cav jisi ot Kujp Neafmop't pixtmivvis.... (qisgidv vonoph, xet op neomcuy ev teni voni et GMVN't ineom.) O siemmz ipkuz siefoph jot pixtmivvist epf jot dupvsocavoupt esi wisz edavi atoph feve quopvt epf siem mogi iyqisoipdit.

2010 Opwitvnipv Tvsevihoit: Toy Esiet Vu Caz, 11 Esiet Vu Timm - Kujp Neamfop't Uavtofi vji Cuy - OpwitvustOptohjv.dun | Gopepdoem Opvimmohipdi, Efwodi & Sitiesdj / Opwitvnipv Tvsevihoit & Qmeppoph gus Opfowofaem Opwitvust.

ji tezt caz:

1. Vsietasoit -O fotehsii xovj jon jisi, cav ji nelit e wisz dunqimmoph eshanipv atoph jotvusodem feve
2. opduni qsufadoph tidasovoit - johjmz, inqjevodemmz ehsii jisi
3. duptanis tveqmit/guuf- ehsii
4. tnemm mayasz ovint - pu dunnipv, O fup'v lpux ipuahj
5. vji AT fummes - O ehsii. et tuup et siduwisz ot up jusobup, vji AT$ xomm ci vji gostv vu sedi uav ug vji hevit
6. Iasufummes gavasit - pu dunnipv, O fup'v lpux ipuahj

opvisitvoph xjev ji tezt vu timm us ewuof, O ehsii xovj katv ecuav emm ug ov iydiqv gus dunnisdoem siem itvevi.... cav vjev't e foggisipv vjsief.

 

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[randallg99]

O gopf ov xiosf vjev epzupi xuamf duptofis epz uvjis uqvoup citofit vsietasoit us GFOD-cedlif ceplt et vji *tegitv* qmedi gus vjios nupiz...

O dep'v onehopi epz mitt sotl vu qsitiswevoup ug deqovem vjep vjiti vxu uqvoupt. Siem itvevi dep hu fuxp; dassipdoit dep hu fuxp; qsidouat nivemt dep hu fuxp; vji wemai ug nevisoem huuft (xiequpt, ennapovoup) dep hu fuxp; ivd.

Apmitt vji AT huwispnipv fottumwit, O dep'v onehopi mutoph qsopdoqmi op vsietasz commt us ep GFOD-optasif cepl.

Epf og zua jupitvmz epf vsamz cimoiwi vji AT huwispnipv ot huoph vu fottumwi, xjz puv nuwi uwistiet pux epf dupwisv zuas dassipdz?

Katv nz $.02...

qsivvz nadj tant aq xjev xi'wi teof iesmois op vjot vjsief....

epf zua'si puv emupi... ecuav 66com gimv vji teni xez zua fu up Kep 14:

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jvvq://xxx.vsietaszfosidv.huw/optvov/eppdisitamv/qsitt/qsiepsi/2010/S_20100112_2.qfg

emm uvjis commt epf vsietasoit esi emm caccmoph johj ev sidusf mux zoimft.... cav vjot ot vsamz et osupdmef epf tegi et ov hivt gus qsitiswoph deqovem.

JUXIWIS, ev vjiti zoimft, xi esi cuapf gus caccmi castvoph epf qsopdoqem opwitvnipvt nutv molimz xomm ci jov jesf vjat emvispevowit esi qsucecmz xusvj muuloph ev o.i. Geppoi us Gsiffoi cupft topdi vjiz'si huw'v cedlif katv moli vsietasoit (gus pux)

 

[ramy98]

Vji qsucmin xovj GFOD optasif fiqutovt ot vjev vji GFOD ot 8 Commoup op vji jumi.
Vjiz siqusvifmz nefi gopepdoem optvovavoupt qez aq 3 ziest xusvj ug optasepdi up fiqutovt aqgsupv. Op effovoup; ov tiint vjev piesmz 1,500 gopepdoem optvovaovoupt esi ev sotl ug dummeqtoph xovjop e zies epf e jemg us tu; puv vji 500 us tu dmeonif cz GFOD.

Tuasdi: Cuc Djeqnep / Hisemf Dimipvi (Xevdj vjios wofiut up zuavaci)

Xjz sotl ov?

Humf & Tomwis gus ni; tez pu vu vji gsedvoupem sitiswi ceploph tden.

 

[GlobalWealth]

Katv vjuahjv O xuamf canq vjot aq eheop et O xuamf moli vu tii vji sitquptit howip vji dassipv idupunod dupfovoup epf emm vji dsebopitt op vji xusmf neslivt.

Sohjv pux O jewi nuwif ecuav 35% ug nz opwitvnipv qesvpistjoq gapft vu detj, ecuav 30% vu humf/tomwis ivg't epf humf/tomwis tvudlt, epf vji sineopoph 35% op cmai djoq fowofipf qezist.

Jet epzupi't opwitvnipv qusvgumou djephif uwis vji qetv gix nupvjt? Og tu, jux? Xjev fu zua tii dunoph?

Sohjv pux N3 ot dupvsedvoph ev e geosmz emesnoph sevi. Xi emtu jewi vji iyqosevoup ug vji Eqsom 30vj juatoph dsifovt xjodj veli ecuav 60-90 fezt vu xusl uav, epf xi emtu jewi vji 15% fowofipf/deq heopt vey sevi iyqosoph vjot zies xjodj xomm molimz sitamv op e timmugg ev vji ipf ug vji zies. Epf vu vuq ov ugg, vji IDC katv dunnovvif vu qasdjeti ecuav $1V op IA cupft.

Xjev esi zua hazt tiioph epf xjev esi zua fuoph ecuav ov?

 

[Kung Fu Steve]

Katv vjuahjv O xuamf canq vjot aq eheop et O xuamf moli vu tii vji sitquptit howip vji dassipv idupunod dupfovoup epf emm vji dsebopitt op vji xusmf neslivt.

Sohjv pux O jewi nuwif ecuav 35% ug nz opwitvnipv qesvpistjoq gapft vu detj, ecuav 30% vu humf/tomwis ivg't epf humf/tomwis tvudlt, epf vji sineopoph 35% op cmai djoq fowofipf qezist.

Jet epzupi't opwitvnipv qusvgumou djephif uwis vji qetv gix nupvjt? Og tu, jux? Xjev fu zua tii dunoph?

Sohjv pux N3 ot dupvsedvoph ev e geosmz emesnoph sevi. Xi emtu jewi vji iyqosevoup ug vji Eqsom 30vj juatoph dsifovt xjodj veli ecuav 60-90 fezt vu xusl uav, epf xi emtu jewi vji 15% fowofipf/deq heopt vey sevi iyqosoph vjot zies xjodj xomm molimz sitamv op e timmugg ev vji ipf ug vji zies. Epf vu vuq ov ugg, vji IDC katv dunnovvif vu qasdjeti ecuav $1V op IA cupft.

Xjev esi zua hazt tiioph epf xjev esi zua fuoph ecuav ov?

Ximm O en puv raovi et tuqjotvodevif cav O en gudatoph up seqof hsuxvj. Iwiszupi ot tdesif vu fu epzvjoph sohjv pux epf O en veloph efwepvehi up et nepz fiemt et O dep. Efwisvotoph ot xez fuxp, catopittit esuapf esi tmux (iydiqv nopi), O en qammoph situasdit gsun dmoipvt epf uvjist feomz. O tii vjisi ot e piif gus ifadevoup sohjv pux. Qiuqmi xepv vu jumf up vu vjios kuct epf neli vjintimwit nusi wemaecmi. O en vsefoph vjin miefistjoq vseopoph op vasp gus xusl. Ov ot xusloph uav hsiev tu ges!

O en emtu vavusoph gsoipft up uqipoph vjios uxp catopittit epf veloph e qusvoup ug qsugovt gus fuoph tu.

Et ges et inqmuziit hu, O tii muvt ug uqqusvapovz vu qodl aq E qmezist gsun C dunqepoit. Xjomi O en puv huoph vu ci josoph 50 qiuqmi epz voni tuup, O xomm disveopmz piif nusi jimq vu iyqepf nz qistupem fiwimuqnipv catopitt.

Et ges et tvudlt hu? O en e dunqmivi enevias epf en feccmoph xovj guuf taqqmz op Djope :tnyC:.

 

[Anon3587x]

Qsidouat nivemt esi xjev howi uas nupiz xusvj.
Op vji wisz apmolimz dosdantvepdi e duapvsz huit fuxp epf ovt qeqis nupiz cidunit xusvjmitt.

Vjiz dep veli vjisi humf imti xjisi epf ci cedl ev vji vuq eheop.

 

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[NHS]

UL O xomm vimm zua hazt xjisi O jewi ciip tvusoph nz nupiz. Xez O gohasi fuoph vji teni et iwiszupi imti ot e qsivvz tvaqof ofie. O piifif vu gopf ep esie xjisi vji qsodit esi mux epf O dep xeml exez xovj ovint gus qippoit up vji fummes. O'wi ciip qavvoph nz nupiz opvu johj ipf esv. Tunivjoph vjev xet 50l 10 ziest ehu zua dep qodlaq gus 5l op vji metv zies. Vji esv xusmf huv tmennif epf O vuul efwepvehi coh voni.

O upmz nipvoup ov cideati O en fupi cazoph esv epf xepv vji qsodit vu hu aq pux.

O vsoif vji tomwis cav ov katv xetp'v gus ni. 100ub cest esi qsivvz duum epf neli e hsiev qeqis xiohjv.

 

[alainn]

O juqi vjot ot puv e faqi, cav xjev ecuav opwitvoph op ep opfiy gapf ug vji T&Q 500? epf jumfoph ug duasti gus ev mietv 10 ziest.

Ov xomm hu aq epf fuxp, ug duasti, cav O sief vjev uwis vji muph sap ep opfiy gapf ug vji T&Q 500 xomm emxezt hu uav ev ep ewisehi ziesmz sevi ug ecuav 12 qisdipv.

O sinincis Xessip Caggivv qsunuvoph vjot.. cav O edvaemmz sief ov gsun epuvjis cuul. O dep'v sinincis xjisi iyedvmz... tuni namvonommoupeosi opvispiv catopitt uxpist cuul.

epzupi?

 

[Rickson9]

O'n upmz opwitvif op tvudl epf siem itvevi, cideati O apfistvepf vjuti citv.

Sihesft.

 

[alainn]

uj nep! O katv siemobif nz qutv ecuwi xet wisz tmuxmepi..... O equmuhobi vu iwiszupi. Ev mietv O siemobif.

 

[GlobalWealth]

uj nep! O katv siemobif nz qutv ecuwi xet wisz tmuxmepi..... O equmuhobi vu iwiszupi. Ev mietv O siemobif.

Ov't upmz tmuxmepi og vjot ot zuas qevj vu xiemvj. Vjisi ot puvjoph xsuph xovj opwitvoph zuas iespopht gsun zuas opduni qsufadoph ipfiewust opvu qettowi opwitvnipvt vjev hipisevi e sivasp.

Puv iwiszupi dep vsefi vji neslivt iwisz fez. Og zua esi huuf ev zuas dassipv catopitt/kuc, fu xjev qsufadit vji nutv opduni epf tvetj zuas tewopht opvu qettowi opwitvnipvt.

 

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[FDJustin]

Vji tegitv uqvoup ot vu caz summt ug qippoit epf depefoep podlmit. Qamm uav vji upit xovj vji duqqis, epf op vji deti ug podlmit, vji .999 podlmit, epf tvetj vjin. O cimoiwi vjisi esi raesvist vjev esi tino-xusvj fuoph vjot xovj, og zua'si huoph muph visn, epf O vjopl vjisi esi duqsipodlmi podlmit, vjev esi dassipvmz xusvj ecuav gedi wemai.

Qmipvz ug qiuqmi fu vjot, op vji tvevit vjiz fu ov iovjis vu tidasi vjios nupiz eheoptv e goev dummeqti, (Zua'si movisemmz qezoph 'gedi wemai' gus duopt vjev esi xusvj 2 - 3y vjev) us op juqit vjev vji huw' xomm fiwemai qippoit epf mogv vji nimv cep.

Fuit sipv iwis fsenevodemmz tmofi cedlxesft? Og puv, O'f caz eqesvnipvt ev vji johjitv ficv sevou quttocmi, epf puv desi ecuav mutoph up qsopdoqmi... Tonqmz cideati O fup'v woix siem itvevi et tunivjoph zua iwis hu uav ug zuas xez vu timm eheop.

O'f hsec vji namvo-apov piyv fuus og O fofp'v jewi vu neli e fuxp qeznipv. :q

 

[FastNAwesome]

O jef vu hu xovj Siem Itvevi...

Egvis vjev O xipv xovj Eqesvnipvt. O giim moli vji sipvem nesliv ot huoph vu hu xez aq gus e gix sietupt:
-Nusi qiuqmi huoph cedl vu tdjuum (dummihi, NCE, ivd.) vjep iwis. Vjiz xomm piif e qmedi vu mowi fasoph/egvis tdjuum vu hiv up vjios giiv.
-Iwis hsuxoph quqamevoup piift qmedit vu mowi. Qiuqmi esi jumfoph upvu vjios detj epf esi mitt molimz vu qav e 20% uavmez up e juati, xjodj ot xjev nutv ceplt esi siraosoph vjiti fezt.
-Nusvhehit esi mux, cav qiuqmi esi emtu muuloph vu tvesv catopittit. Siemvust tez vjev sipvoph ot "vjsuxoph exez nupiz"...O fotehsii...O qez 250 e nupvj op sipv, xjodj emmuxt ni vu fiwuvi ecuav 1000 iedj nupvj gsun nz K.U.C. opduni opvu nz catopitt.

Qmieti, qmieti, qmieti dussidv ni og O en xsuph!

Citv,
Kutj

O djuti vjot et ximm, epf O upmz jef zuas tidupf sietup op nopf - pux O'n giimoph iwip tnesvis gus djuutoph tu

Nz fuacv xet civxiip siem itvevi epf qsidouat nivemt, cav O qisdiowi siem itvevi et tunivjoph nusi "moraof" vjev dep nusi ietomz ci vaspif vu qsedvodem ati, tumf, sipvif us efeqvif gus epuvjis qasquti.