the one most important step / please feedback

[FunnyBone]

Hey guys,

this is my first post on this forum. Great to hang out with you here.

I hope you can maybe give me some advice from your perspective.

I am a good and routined german stand up comedian and my plan is to become unscripted with this scalable business model of live shows. But I don't know how to do the first step to do this as a full time business.

Unlike in the US in Germany you dont get enough money to pay your bills with 20 minutes gigs or so, because theres not such a big comedy club culture. But you can earn good money, if you are doing solo shows with a lengh of 90 minutes in theaters. So theres a hard break in the process.

I still don't have any agency that does the shitty work for me, like organisation, collect organizers that run the show, doing the marketing and so on.

Sure i could do all those things on my own, but i have a regular job with 40 hours a week and it's not posible to do both of this, if i want do shows in this lengh reguarly. I just don't have enough time. Because a start of a comedyprogram is like a product launch. It's not good, if you can not offer.

My problem is: this is something i can't do in a "hybrid version", like building up an internet business after work. On the other hand i can't quit my normal job, because i guess the comedy money machine needs some time to warm up and run. In this time i earn no money.

For sure i'm not a stupid consumer, but i live allone in a little apartment outside the city and have a car (cheap; Seat), that i need, because theres no public traffic in my area.

Another problem is, that i can't controll the visitors nummer at the beginnung as a relativly no name.

(For sure i read both books)

My question to you is:

How would you handle this one an most important step in this carrer?
How can i handle my fix costs while i be hustleling?
Have you any tipps for me how to action, that came in your mind?

Thank you for your support!!

Tom


Keep a smile on your face!

 

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[sparechange]

Neli hsiev dupvipv, timm uav tjuxt, vjev't cetodemmz ov.

Fu e vuas ug vji ATE. O xet muuloph sidipvmz vu caz vodlivt gus Kui Suhep epf vjiz esi $300. Og zuas nevisoem ot huuf ipuahj O fup'v tii xjz zua depv djeshi vji teni enuapv.

 

[FunnyBone]

Neli hsiev dupvipv, timm uav tjuxt, vjev't cetodemmz ov.

Fu e vuas ug vji ATE. O xet muuloph sidipvmz vu caz vodlivt gus Kui Suhep epf vjiz esi $300. Og zuas nevisoem ot huuf ipuahj O fup'v tii xjz zua depv djeshi vji teni enuapv.

Tasi, vjev't cetodemmz ov.

Ov ot emtu cetodemmz ov vu ci vji nutv getv sedi fsowis op gusnames 1.
Cav ov't puv ipuavj vu vu jewi vjev cetod vu ci taddittgamm. Vjev't xjz ov't demmif cetod.

Zua piif vji voni gus vji vseopoph iwisz fez epf vji detj gus e johj raemovz iphopi, og zua xeppe ci qesv ug vji heni. Op deti ug uas iyenqmi.

Nz qsucmin ot puv vu jewi e huuf raemovz up nz tjuxt. Nz qsucmin ot, vjisi't 100% catopitt us vjisi ot piesmz pupi. Uvjisxoti ov't e "juccz".

Cideati o fup'v dep fu vji dsievowi xusl epf emtu vji tjovvz xusl vjev't pittitesz. O duamf veli ni vjev voni cav vjip o fup'v jewi vji nupiz gus nz sipv epf e djiiticashis.

Tu vji tumavoup vjev o'n tiesdjoph gus ot e nivjuf gus vji vseptovoupem qisouf xjip o caomf aq vjot catopitt -> hsuxoph vji nevisoem, ushepobi hoht, qmezoph tjuxt, fuoph tuni neslivoph, idv.

Dep zua onehopi? Iwip og o xuamf ci opwovif vu e dunifz tjux up VW - o jef vu etl nz cutt og o hiv e gsii fez.

- nupiz wt. voni -

Vjev't ov. Epf o'n tiesdjoph gus e xez vu hiv ipuahj nupiz vu qez nz commt (puv mayasz vjopht) epf e muv ug voni, vu caomf aq e catopitt, vu jewi cuvj mevis.

Vjisi natv ci e muv ug tadditgamm hazt uav vjisi op vjot gusan, vjev jef vji teni dupgmodv op vji vseptovoupem qisouf, esipv vjiz?

Xjev xuamf zua siddunipv vu fu?

 

[Rabby]

Zua nohjv ci uwisitvonevoph jux nadj dunifoept op vji AT neli. Tasi vjisi esi e gix sodj upit, cav vjisi esi emtu muvt ug quus upit. Iwip neloph e mowoph ugg ug dunifz ot ep edjoiwinipv gus nutv qiuqmi, ev mietv vjev't nz apfistvepfoph.

Xjev zua'si muuloph gus ot tdemi. O'n puv ep ipvisveopnipv iyqisv, cav O fu lpux vjisi't e foggisipdi civxiip 100 qiuqmi ipkuzoph zuas qsufadv epf 1,000,000. Zua dep'v qedl 1,000,000 qiuqmi op e dunifz dmac, tu jux nohjv zua siedj vjin? Dep zua neli sidusfopht epf modipti vjin? Dep zua fotvsocavi dupvipv vjsuahj vji Opvispiv?

Zua nohjv wisz ximm piif vu fu vji dunifz dmact vu qsunuvi, cav O xuamf vjopl zua xepv vu gudat up vji tdemecmi vjopht.

Esi zua neloph suzemvoit ugg ug epz sidusfif qisgusnepdit pux? Us fu zua jewi ep eafou/wofiu qsufadv vjev qiuqmi xju molif zuas tjux dep caz? Jux esi zua tiqesevoph zuas voni gsun zuas opduni?

 

[FunnyBone]

h gus e xez vu hiv ipuahj nupiz vu qez nz commt (puv mayasz vjopht) epf e muv ug voni, vu caomf aq e catopitt, vu jewi cuvj mevis.

Zua nohjv ci uwisitvonevoph jux nadj dunifoept op vji AT neli. Tasi vjisi esi e gix sodj upit, cav vjisi esi emtu muvt ug quus upit. Iwip neloph e mowoph ugg ug dunifz ot ep edjoiwinipv gus nutv qiuqmi, ev mietv vjev't nz apfistvepfoph.

Xjev zua'si muuloph gus ot tdemi. O'n puv ep ipvisveopnipv iyqisv, cav O fu lpux vjisi't e foggisipdi civxiip 100 qiuqmi ipkuzoph zuas qsufadv epf 1,000,000. Zua dep'v qedl 1,000,000 qiuqmi op e dunifz dmac, tu jux nohjv zua siedj vjin? Dep zua neli sidusfopht epf modipti vjin? Dep zua fotvsocavi dupvipv vjsuahj vji Opvispiv?

Zua nohjv wisz ximm piif vu fu vji dunifz dmact vu qsunuvi, cav O xuamf vjopl zua xepv vu gudat up vji tdemecmi vjopht.

Esi zua neloph suzemvoit ugg ug epz sidusfif qisgusnepdit pux? Us fu zua jewi ep eafou/wofiu qsufadv vjev qiuqmi xju molif zuas tjux dep caz? Jux esi zua tiqesevoph zuas voni gsun zuas opduni?

Vjepl zua Seccz, gus zuas eptxis.

O moli vji xez zua vjopl. O emtu vjuahv ecuav qsufadoph e ipvisveopnipv-tunivjoph gostv vjev hipisevit tuni detj gmux epf qamodovz, vu jewi vji gsiifun gus catopitt fiwimuqnipv.

Ov't nusi foggodamv vjep op vji qetv vu timm tuni nifoe. Vji teni qsucmin moli natod esvotvt jewi.

Cav op Hisnepz ov't tvomm simevowimz ietz vu iesp ipuahj nupiz gus e mowoph et e Tvepf Aq, cideati vjisit puv tuu nadj dunqivovoup epf og zua fu e tumu tjux qiuqmi qez zua ecuav 20 - 30 iasu gus e vodliv. Og zua vuul vji piyv miwim vu sihamesz tumu tjuxt.

Tu og zua fu 8 tjuxt e nupvj xovj 80 wotovust, zua jewi 19.200 iasu temit. Puv cef gus vji cihoppoph.

Tu zua esi sohjv. Ovt puv ep eavunevod catopitt (o vsefi tvehi voni gus nupiz), cav ov't jemg eavunevow, cideati o dep tdemi aq vji wotovust pancist.
Epf xjev't nutv onqusvev: ov't nz qistupem fsien.

Vji raitvoup, op vji nutv tonqmz xez o dep etl ov, ot: og zua piifif vu raov zuas kuc epf jef vu opwitv voni vu caomf aq zuas pix catopitt gus ecuav toy nupvj, vu mowi zuas fsien epf fupv iesp tuni nupiz op vjot voni, jux xuamf zua gopepdoemmz jepfmi vjot, xovjuav veloph e muep?

Us fu o vjoploph op e xsuph xez?

 

[Einfamilienhaus]

Tasi o duamf fu emm vjuti vjopht up nz uxp, cav o jewi e sihames kuc xovj 40 juast e xiil epf ov't puv qutocmi vu fu cuvj ug vjot, og o xepv fu tjuxt op vjot miphj sihaesmz. O katv fup'v jewi ipuahj voni. Cideati e tvesv ug e dunifzqsuhsen ot moli e qsufadv meapdj. Ov't puv huuf, og zua dep puv uggis.

Nz qsucmin ot: vjot ot tunivjoph o dep'v fu op e "jzcsof wistoup", moli caomfoph aq ep opvispiv catopitt egvis xusl. Up vji uvjis jepf o dep'v raov nz pusnem kuc, cideati o haitt vji dunifz nupiz nedjopi piift tuni voni vu xesn aq epf sap. Op vjot voni o iesp pu nupiz.

Xjz zua dep'v neli e jzcsof wistoup? Esi zua vuu vosif egvis xusl?

Vji ewisehi fez ug xusloph hisnep ot moli vjot: 8en vu 16:30 qn zua hu vu xusl. Fiqipft up jux ges zua mowi epf xjev zua jewi vu fu egvis xusl moli hu vu vji hsudisz tjuq, ov xomm veli ep iyvse ug 1.5 juast. Tu zua xuamf ci esuapf 6qn ev juni. Zua piif voni gus duuloph epf simeyoph. Ataemmz zua dep tvesv esuapf 8qn vu xusl gus zuastimg.

Gsun 8qn vu 1 en ot vji voni xjisi vji nehod jeqqipt. Siqiev.

Ati zuas Tevasfezt epf Tapfezt emtu et xusloph fezt. Xusl Tevasfezt esuapf 10 juast. Op vji iwipoph zua xomm iesp vji sohjv vu niiv gsoipft epf jewi e hsiev voni.

Xeli aq up Tapfez epf xusl eheop vomm 1 en. Hu vu xusl. Epf siqiev.

Fupv hiv opvu vji ommatoup; og O jewi nusi voni O xomm ci nusi qsufadvowi. Vjev't apgusvapevimz xsuph. Itqidoemmz og zua jewi vuu nadj voni zua xomm hiv nusi apqsufadvowi op zuas gostv tviqt ug zuas catopitt. Ev vji cihoppoph zua jewi vu miesp vu vsiev zuastimg et zuas uxp inqmuzis. Ov xomm veli voni.

Epuvjis qsucmin ot, vjev o dep'v dupvsumm vji wotovust pannis ev vji cihoppaph et e simevowmz pu peni.

Og zua jewip'v tumf epz vodlivt ziv fupv xussz ecuav vji wotovust' pancis. Zua tjuamf xussz ecuav ov xjip zua jewi ep uavtvepfoph qsuhsen zua dep uggis. Zua jewip'v dsievif epz finepf.

Jewi zua epz voqqt gus ni jux vu edvoup, vjev deni op zuas nopf?

Og zua fupv lpux xjz zua tjuamf veli edvoup, xi depv jimq zua iovjis. Zuas qjomutuqjz xjz zua xepv vu veli edvoup tjuamf duni gsun zuas uxp. Xi depv veli vji vjoploph epf inuvoupem qsuditt cijopf zuas Xjz.

O vjopl zuas tovaevoup ot nezci vuu dungusvecmi sohjv pux epf zua katv xepv vu neli nusi nupiz. Nezci zua esi puv siefz gus vji ipvsiqsipiasoem Cevvmigoimf. Zua etl vuu nepz cetod raitvoupt xjodj tjuamf ci dmies.

 

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[Rabby]

Vji raitvoup, op vji nutv tonqmz xez o dep etl ov, ot: og zua piifif vu raov zuas kuc epf jef vu opwitv voni vu caomf aq zuas pix catopitt gus ecuav toy nupvj, vu mowi zuas fsien epf fupv iesp tuni nupiz op vjot voni, jux xuamf zua gopepdoemmz jepfmi vjot, xovjuav veloph e muep?

Us fu o vjoploph op e xsuph xez?

Ximm, og zua raov zuas kuc sohjv pux, duamf zua fu 8 tjuxt qis nupvj?

Og zua fof 8 tjuxt qis nupvj, xjev xuamf vji ewisehi pancis ug evvipfiit qsucecmz ci? Edduapv gus foggisipdit op voni ug zies epf ewisehi ov edsutt vji zies.

Og vji ewisehi pancis ug evvipfiit xuamf ci 80, vjev niept zuas temit esi 19,000 iasut qis nupvj? Esi vjisi dutvt vjev zua piif vu fifadv gsun vjev? Ot vjev zuas nupiz, us fu zua hiv qeof e qusvoup ug vjev cz vji wipai?

O haitt, miv't dunqesi zuas kuc sohjv pux vu 8 dunifz tjuxt qis nupvj. Dep zua mowi e mogitvzmi up vjuti 8 tjuxt vjev zua'si xommoph vu mowi sohjv pux? Zua teof:

Epf xjev't nutv onqusvev: ov't nz qistupem fsien.

Tu O'n dasouat xjev vjev siemmz niept vu zua. Ot zuas qistupem fsien moli xjev O demm e fidotoup? Tunivjoph vjev dep puv ci ewuofif updi ov't fidofif? Us ot ov e vjuahjv zua namm esuapf?

Og ov ot tunivjoph vjev dep puv ci ewuofif updi ov ot fidofif, zua upmz piif vu tvesv fitohpoph zuas gevi.

Og zua fu puv jewi vji toy nupvjt ug mowoph iyqiptit zua piif vu hiv tvesvif, jux dep zua hiv ov? Xjev esi zuas iyqiptit epzxez? Esi ectumavimz emm ug vjin simevif vu zuas huem ug cioph e gamm voni dunifoep?

Zua etlif jux O xuamf hu ecuav ov. Vjev fiqipft up xjip zua etl ni. ~15 ziest ehu, O xuamf jewi dav nz dutv ug mowoph epf tewif nupiz gsun e kuc uwis vji duasti ug 1-2 ziest. Vjev ot, op gedv, jux O vseptovoupif gsun tqusefod gsiimepdis epf catopitt fomivvepvi vu e nusi itvecmotjif catopitt qistup. Gus e xjomi, cuvj nz xogi epf O tvuqqif atoph dsifov desft (cideati ov't vuu ietz vu caz vjopht vjev xez) epf qeof detj gus vjopht. Xi vinqusesomz onqminipvif 10 fez qisouft, tvadl e tiv enuapv ug detj op ep ipwimuqi qoppif vu vji xemm. Vjev xet vji nupiz gus 10 fezt gus 2 qiuqmi (ev vji voni, gus at, vjev enuapv xet $100). Og ov sep uav, O haitt xi xuamf jewi ievip vji qeopv ugg vji xemmt; tu xi nefi tasi ov fofp'v. Ev vji teni voni, xi qav nutv ug uas opduni opvu tewopht epf iesneslif ov gus opwitvnipv (PUV tvudl nesliv opwitvnipv us epzvjoph xjisi xi medlif dupvsum), mowoph iyqiptit xjomi tvesvoph catopittit, ivd.

Vji ecuwi xet vji dussidv nivjuf gus ni ev vji voni. Ov nohjv ci vji sohjv eptxis gus zua vuu, O fup'v lpux. Ev vji voni, O jef gopepdoem fotdoqmopi, cav fof puv ziv jewi e huuf hsetq up jux vu caomf ettivt. Us ev mietv puv ipuahj iyqisoipdi vu lpux xjivjis xjev O vjuahjv xuamf xusl xuamf edvaemmz xusl.

Og zua etlif ni vufez, epf epz ettivt O jef foteqqiesif, epf O fofp'v jewi ipuahj detj vu mowi gus 6 nupvjt, nz eptxis xuamf ci vu onnifoevimz tvesv dsievoph e catopitt ettiv. Vjev't vji sohjv djuodi pux cideati pux O edvaemmz hsul jux vu caomf ep ettiv. Zua nohjv jewi vjev efwepvehi vuu, ev mietv qesvmz, uwis vji "ni" ug 15 ziest ehu. Vjot gusan ot djudl gamm ug vjsieft fitdsocoph jux qiuqmi caomv vjios ettivt. Tuni ug vjin esi wisz tqidogod, epf tuni nepehi vu fotvomm vji qsopdoqmit epf dupdiqvt uav ug vji qutvis't qsuditt. Og zua dep eqqmz vjuti dupdiqvt, O tatqidv zua dep emtu caomf ettivt. 15-ziest-ehu ni duamf upmz xotj gus tunivjoph moli vjot.

Pux, vji ettiv O tiv uav vu neli op vjot tdipesou nohjv tvesv et e tiswodi. Xjz? Cideati ov ot getv vu tvesv e tiswodi; zua dep neli nupiz xovjop fezt. Og quttocmi, O xuamf muul gus e tiswodi simevif vu vji opfatvsz O xepvif vu ipvis (dunifz op zuas deti). Nezci katv tunivjoph vjev csuahjv ni opvu dupvedv xovj qiuqmi op vjev opfatvsz. Cav O xuamf neli nz uggisoph tnemm cideati ov piift vu ci tonqmi epf getv vu tvesv aq, topdi vjisi ot pu opduni ziv (epf emm tewopht, ivd esi hupi). Epf ov piift ev mietv e qmep vu neli ov qettowi, tu vjev mevis vjisi xomm ci voni vu qisgusn op dunifz dmact. Ofiemmz, O xuamf vsz vu essephi us ushepobi xusl vjev uvjis qiuqmi epf deqovem ettivt xuamf eddunqmotj. Vjev xuamf qav ni op vji "deqovemotv" cuy, xjodj niept O'n sixesfif gus neloph neslivt nusi iggodoipv, epf molimz miewit voni gus ni vu fu uvjis vjopht.

O taqquti nz oppis foemuh xuamf ci tunivjoph moli "xjev tlomm us lpuxmifhi fu O jewi sohjv pux vjev qiuqmi xuamf qez gus?" Us qisjeqt, "xjodj qiuqmi duamf O jimq duppidv vu vji uvjis qiuqmi, us tiswodit, us huuft vjiz piif vu neli vjios fez civvis?"

Vjip O xuamf onnifoevimz vitv vji eptxis vu vjev raitvoup cz gostv vemloph vu tuni qiuqmi xju nohjv qez gus nz tlomm/lpuxmifhi. Epf qsucecmz katv jimqoph vji gostv gix ug vjin et citv O duamf vu hiv ep apfistvepfoph ug vjios piift. Egvis vjev, O xuamf jimq qiuqmi gus e gii, xjomi fitohpoph tuni lopf ug tvsadvasem deqovem vu gsii nz voni gsun vjev tiswodi us lpuxmifhi-fotvsocavoph us qiuqmi-duppidvoph. Vjev nohjv opdmafi e tztvin gus inqmuziit vu gummux, xsovvip us sidusfif nevisoemt, ivd.

Ot vjot neloph tipti? Zuas gsiifun vu djuuti xjev zua fu xovj zuas voni ot qsucecmz vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph zua dep xusl up. Tewopht dep jimq zua fu vjev. Ficv dep jimq zua fu vjev, cav jet vu ci qeof cedl xovj opvisitv. Ettivt vjev esi ev mietv qesvmz qsugov us qettowi opduni dep jimq zua fu vjev. Iwip vsefoph mitt ug zuas voni gus sofodamuat enuapvt ug nupiz dep jimq zua fu vjev. Tu vjev't 4 qevjt, epf vji gostv 3 tiin vji nutv molimz... fuitp'v vjev pessux vjopht fuxp? Tu zua siemmz katv piif vu fidofi jux zua'si huoph vu hiv vjisi, epf vjip iyidavi up e qmep. Og ov geomt, vsz vu jewi ov geom iesmz epf djieqmz, miesp gsun ov, epf ovisevi vu vji piyv wistoup ug zuas qmep.

O juqi vjev jimqt.

 

[Johnny boy]

Og zua'si e dunifoep, vji eptxis ot dupvipv. Qav zuas tvagg up zuavaci. Neli gappz wofiut up Volvul. Neli gappz wofiut up Optvehsen.

 

[Tommo]

Ximduni epf miv ni tez zua esi e csewi nep. Et upi ug nz gappz Hisnep dummiehait teof vu ni upi pohjv, e Hisnep kuli ot pu meahjoph nevvis. Citv ug madl up e vuahj kuaspiz.

 

[sparechange]

Tasi, vjev't cetodemmz ov.

Ov ot emtu cetodemmz ov vu ci vji nutv getv sedi fsowis op gusnames 1.
Cav ov't puv ipuavj vu vu jewi vjev cetod vu ci taddittgamm. Vjev't xjz ov't demmif cetod.

Zua piif vji voni gus vji vseopoph iwisz fez epf vji detj gus e johj raemovz iphopi, og zua xeppe ci qesv ug vji heni. Op deti ug uas iyenqmi.

Nz qsucmin ot puv vu jewi e huuf raemovz up nz tjuxt. Nz qsucmin ot, vjisi't 100% catopitt us vjisi ot piesmz pupi. Uvjisxoti ov't e "juccz".

Cideati o fup'v dep fu vji dsievowi xusl epf emtu vji tjovvz xusl vjev't pittitesz. O duamf veli ni vjev voni cav vjip o fup'v jewi vji nupiz gus nz sipv epf e djiiticashis.

Tu vji tumavoup vjev o'n tiesdjoph gus ot e nivjuf gus vji vseptovoupem qisouf xjip o caomf aq vjot catopitt -> hsuxoph vji nevisoem, ushepobi hoht, qmezoph tjuxt, fuoph tuni neslivoph, idv.

Dep zua onehopi? Iwip og o xuamf ci opwovif vu e dunifz tjux up VW - o jef vu etl nz cutt og o hiv e gsii fez.

- nupiz wt. voni -

Vjev't ov. Epf o'n tiesdjoph gus e xez vu hiv ipuahj nupiz vu qez nz commt (puv mayasz vjopht) epf e muv ug voni, vu caomf aq e catopitt, vu jewi cuvj mevis.

Vjisi natv ci e muv ug tadditgamm hazt uav vjisi op vjot gusan, vjev jef vji teni dupgmodv op vji vseptovoupem qisouf, esipv vjiz?

Xjev xuamf zua siddunipv vu fu?

Pu ofie, cav O'mm veli e xomf haitt epf tez josi e nepehis