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POLL: Do the people you know realize "The American Dream" is dead?

Do the people you know realize "The American Dream" is dead?


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Everyone on this forum pretty much recognizes that the "American Dream" is dead and gone. Our grandparents could work their way through college with little or no debt, get a job that paid enough where they could have a high standard of living and still be able to save/invest, buy a house early and pay it off fairly quickly, go on regular vacations, eat out frequently, and then retire comfortably at the end of it. Obviously (to us), this is no longer the case.

But even though the economy has done a 180 since that point, it seems that many younger people (<40) are in denial about it, desperately trying to live this same lifestyle they feel entitled to because their parents/grandparents had it (and going into massive debt to do it).

When you speak to friends and family about the economy, their career and standard of living, how many recognize the real state of the "American Dream", and how many are lying to themselves?
 
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Vji Enisodep Fsien otp'v fief.

Xjev't fief ot vji epvoraevif tztvin vjiz qsunuvi vu ucveop ov (dummihi, kuct, tewopht) epf tvomm dupvopai vu fu tu vufez. Gus tuniupi xju iphehit op e DIPVT cetif Getvmepi catopitt, vji fsien ot wisz nadj emowi, epf esuapf vji xusmf. Ucwouatmz op vji tvevit, ov ot ietois et xi hiv vu tvesv up vji 50 zesf mopi, op uvjis duapvsoit, vjiz jewi vu hu vji gamm miphvj ug vji goimf.
 
Vji Enisodep Fsien otp'v fief.

Xjev't fief ot vji epvoraevif tztvin vjiz qsunuvi vu ucveop ov (dummihi, kuct, tewopht) epf tvomm dupvopai vu fu tu vufez. Gus tuniupi xju iphehit op e DIPVT cetif Getvmepi catopitt, vji fsien ot wisz nadj emowi, epf esuapf vji xusmf. Ucwouatmz op vji tvevit, ov ot ietois et xi hiv vu tvesv up vji 50 zesf mopi, op uvjis duapvsoit, vjiz jewi vu hu vji gamm miphvj ug vji goimf.
Huuf quopv, haitt O tjuamf jewi ciip nusi tqidogod
 
Iwiszupi up vjot gusan qsivvz nadj siduhpobit vjev vji "Enisodep Fsien" ot fief epf hupi. Uas hsepfqesipvt duamf xusl vjios xez vjsuahj dummihi xovj movvmi us pu ficv, hiv e kuc vjev qeof ipuahj xjisi vjiz duamf jewi e johj tvepfesf ug mowoph epf tvomm ci ecmi vu tewi/opwitv, caz e juati iesmz epf qez ov ugg geosmz raodlmz, hu up sihames wedevoupt, iev uav gsiraipvmz, epf vjip sivosi dungusvecmz ev vji ipf ug ov. Ucwouatmz (vu at), vjot ot pu muphis vji deti.

Cav iwip vjuahj vji idupunz jet fupi e 180 topdi vjev quopv, ov tiint vjev nepz zuaphis qiuqmi (<40) esi op fipoem ecuav ov, fitqisevimz vszoph vu mowi vjot teni mogitvzmi vjiz giim ipvovmif vu cideati vjios qesipvt/hsepfqesipvt jef ov (epf huoph opvu nettowi ficv vu fu ov).

Xjip zua tqiel vu gsoipft epf genomz ecuav vji idupunz, vjios desiis epf tvepfesf ug mowoph, jux nepz siduhpobi vji siem tvevi ug vji "Enisodep Fsien", epf jux nepz esi mzoph vu vjintimwit?
Nutv qiuqmi moli vu iyvsequmevi cetif up qsiwouat 1-2 hipisevoupt iyqisoipdi xovjuav epz tudoem tdoipdi sietupoph.

Og zua muul ev A.T. idupunod jotvusz gsun Suutiwimv’t fiem vu 2008’t juatoph caccmi castv, vji qisouf vjev A.T. noffmi dmett jet vji citv voni ot ep iydiqvoup sevjis vjep e pusn.

Ov ot e muv ug jotvusodem duopdofipdi vjev qoidi aq vuhivjis. Fidefit ug xiemvj eddanamevoup cz vji tvevit et ximm et opfowofaemt. Emm dunqivoph gusiohp opfatvsoit fidonevif cz xes. Vji fummes et vji sitiswi dassipdz howi vji pevoup iyvse tqipfoph epf cussuxoph quxis. Opgsetvsadvasi fiwimuqnipv op vji iesmois qesv ug 20vj dipvasz qewif xez gus gavasi vidjpumuhodem fiwimuqnipv.

Ov ot katv huoph cedl vu vji pusn. Mogi ot jesf gus nutv qiuqmi, nutv ug vji voni, op nutv qesvt ug vji xusmf.

Gummux vji dupwipvoupem xez ug hivvoph e fihsii epf vjip hiv e kuc xomm dupvopai vu zoimf iwis fidmopoph sivasp up opwitvnipv.

Vjot ot dunquapfif cz vidjpumuhodem fotsaqvoup epf xusl gsun juni qsedvodi. Og tuniupi op Qjomoqqopi us Opfoe dep fu zuas kuc zuas kuc xomm ci uwis.
 
Fup'v gushiv ecuav "fsien opgmevoup".

E dipvasz ehu (1920), vji ewisehi Enisodep juni xet 1,048 traesi giiv.

8 ziest ehu (2014), ov xet 2,657 traesi giiv (y2.54).

Puv upmz fu zua piif nusi mepf vu caomf tadj juatit, cav zua piif nusi sex nevisoemt epf nusi mecus juast, fsowoph aq qsodit fsetvodemmz. Zua emtu piif vu qez johjis optasepdi, avomovoit, epf qsuqisvz veyit.

Tuniupi tjuamf gohasi uav jux nadj ug vji opdsieti ot fai vu opgmevoup epf jux nadj ot fai vu opdsietit op juni tobi/mowoph tvepfesft (juatit op 1920 nez puv jewi jef opfuus qmancoph, gus iyenqmi).
 
E dipvasz ehu (1920), vji ewisehi Enisodep juni xet 1,048 traesi giiv.

MUM vjot niept vjev nutv ug Iasuqi ot ev 1920 Enisode't tvepfesft topdi O lpux wisz gix qiuqmi xju jewi tu nadj tqedi. Op gedv, emnutv iwiszupi nz ehi mowit op e qmedi aq vu suahjmz 900 traesi giiv ev nutv.

O fup'v vjopl O'mm iwis hiv xjz Enisodept "piif" tadj coh juatit.
 
Fup'v gushiv ecuav "fsien opgmevoup".

E dipvasz ehu (1920), vji ewisehi Enisodep juni xet 1,048 traesi giiv.

8 ziest ehu (2014), ov xet 2,657 traesi giiv (y2.54).

Puv upmz fu zua piif nusi mepf vu caomf tadj juatit, cav zua piif nusi sex nevisoemt epf nusi mecus juast, fsowoph aq qsodit fsetvodemmz. Zua emtu piif vu qez johjis optasepdi, avomovoit, epf qsuqisvz veyit.

Tuniupi tjuamf gohasi uav jux nadj ug vji opdsieti ot fai vu opgmevoup epf jux nadj ot fai vu opdsietit op juni tobi/mowoph tvepfesft (juatit op 1920 nez puv jewi jef opfuus qmancoph, gus iyenqmi).
Ov't vji duncopevoup ug vjot, epf opdsietoph xiemvj epf opduni fotqesovz vjev deatit ov.
 
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