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[Baku85]

Really? Based on what? Your feelings? The fact that you couldn't? There are thousands probably millions of traders all making money "scalping" or taking small bites at the market. To say they will all eventually lose is ludicrous and based on nothing.

And its matter of time machines will do it better then them. Machines will do strategy in 100%, without emotions, or going to toilet.
This is my opinion, I can of course be wrong

Yes, really. Why not? Because you haven't done it? Because you've never seen anyone do it? Is that the extent of the evidence upon which you base your disbelief? A bit poor.

Also, you should read what I wrote a little more carefully and not just look at the one hundred million dollar example and balk insultingly just because it's a big number. There are just as many people who don't believe that making $1,000 is not possible. Just because someone thinks it's too good to be true doesn't make it false. It just means they have to lift what they think is too good. I've done plenty of impossible things in my 50 years on this earth and the only thing that made them impossible is that humans said they were "impossible". I did them anyway. There are plenty of 4 minute miles.

If people think the Forex market won't deliver you millions you're sadly mistaken. Sorry. It's not only possible it happens daily. Doubts don't make it untrue. I've personally made tens of thousands of dollars in just a few minutes and personally witnessed many multi million dollar (profit) trades. If it doesn't suit you that's fine but to discourage others just because you failed isn't very cool. Caution, warn, advise and tell us about your experiences - that's fine. But don't mock based solely on your experiences alone. It isn't helpful and really only achieves one thing.

Maybe you are right - btw. whats you last year ROI in % ?

I think I agree with this. I always advise to start with small amounts and compound to the larger amounts.

Well for this my post coming to, look at my story I had strategy making 1-2% in year, which is not good. But what I wanted to say by this is that I have checked this before putting money into. Who knows maybe he will do even 15% yearly or 150%. Checking on backtesting before believe in stories about easy money.

 

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[V8Bill]

Epf ovt nevvis ug voni nedjopit xomm fu ov civvis vjip vjin. Nedjopit xomm fu tvsevihz op 100%,

Dep'v xeov! O'mm ci vji gostv vu caz upi.

Nezci zua esi sohjv - cvx. xjevt zua metv zies SUO op % ?

Pupi ug zuas huf fenp catopitt. O'n puv timmoph epzvjoph jisi. Ov't ossimiwepv. Xet O e gamm voni vsefis emm ug metv zies us qesv ug ov? Fof O ati Gusiy vu neli tuni nupiz vu tqipf up uvjis vjopht? Fof O neli nupiz us muti nupiz? Xjodj fez? Xjodj xiil? Xjodj nupvj? Xjodj juas? Xjodj nopavi? Etloph tadj ep opepi raitvoup muxist zua vu vji miwim ug e tduapfsim notdjoig nelis xju't sap uav ug eshanipv.

Xju lpuxt nezci ji xomm fu iwip 15% ziesmz

O fof 15% up Vaitfez, 32% metv Xifpitfez epf 65% up Vjastfez. Niept puvjoph xovjuav dupviyv. Epzupi xju fuitp'v cimoiwi zua dep neli vjuatepft ug qisdipv sivasp op vji gusiy nesliv op e zies fuitp'v lpux vji gusiy nesliv epf ot e feccmis ev citv. Etl tisouat raitvoupt epf zua'mm hiv tisouat eptxist.

 

[Baku85]

Dep'v xeov! O'mm ci vji gostv vu caz upi.

Duni up, fuoph vsefit cetif upmz up hseqj dep ci ietomz siqmedif cz nedjopi..
Fuoph vsefit cetif up opgusnevoupt sevjis puv.

Pupi ug zuas huf fenp catopitt. O'n puv timmoph epzvjoph jisi. Ov't ossimiwepv. Xet O e gamm voni vsefis emm ug metv zies us qesv ug ov? Fof O ati Gusiy vu neli tuni nupiz vu tqipf up uvjis vjopht? Fof O neli nupiz us muti nupiz? Xjodj fez? Xjodj xiil? Xjodj nupvj? Xjodj juas? Xjodj nopavi? Etloph tadj ep opepi raitvoup muxist zua vu vji miwim ug e tduapfsim notdjoig nelis xju't sap uav ug eshanipv.

unh nep, xjz zua tu uwissiedvif ? O upmz xepvif vu jimq vjot haz cigusi muutoph jot nupiz.
Nepz qqm uwis opvispiv esi dmeonoph vjiz jewi iespif nadj nupiz up gusiy, nepz ug vjin xuslt gus csulist ivd.
O xepvif howi vjot haz upmz efwodi, vu DJIDL.

zit ovt puv nz catopitt , cav zua teof ecuav iespoph 1000$ tu O vjuahjv raitvoup ecuav SUO ot puv tu cef.

O fof 15% up Vaitfez, 32% metv Xifpitfez epf 65% up Vjastfez. Niept puvjoph xovjuav dupviyv. Epzupi xju fuitp'v cimoiwi zua dep neli vjuatepft ug qisdipv sivasp op vji gusiy nesliv op e zies fuitp'v lpux vji gusiy nesliv epf ot e feccmis ev citv. Etl tisouat raitvoupt epf zua'mm hiv tisouat eptxist.

Cvx. ovt foggisipdi cz jewoph SUO 50% op xiil wt zies.

Fu zua vjopl ovt xoti vu cimoiwi tuniupi up opvispiv gusan vjev ji ot iespoph huuf nupiz up gusiy, epf qav uxp nupiz vjisi ?
Op nz uqopoup puv, On puv tezoph zua esi puv fuoph, og zua esi vjep hsiev, emm vji citv, siemmz. O fof puv xepvif vu evvedl zua nep.

Nz huem ug qutv xet vu uqip vjoploph vu vjot haz, vu djidl iwiszvjoph cz jon timg, ati tuni cedlvitvoph nivjuft. O fupv desi og zua iesp 10%, 100%.
Nz qutv xet vu vjot haz, epf qmieti tvuq uwissiedvoph.

O fof puv xepvif vu ci safi, tussz og zua huv ov vjot xez.

 

[V8Bill]

Ul geos ipuahj cav O'n puv siemmz katv "tuni haz up vji opvispiv" O jewi e movvmi siqavevoup jisi epf jewi xsovvip nepz vonit up tvudl nesliv. Og ji fuit jot sitiesdj opvu xju't vemloph ov'mm howi jon e movvmi dupgofipdi. Zuas raitvoup ecuav "tu jux nadj jewi zua iespif metv zies" deni edsutt et jepft up joqt vuphai quloph uav. Xjev O iesp ot ossimiwepv apmitt O'n vszoph vu timm tunivjoph xjodj O'n puv. O'n tjesoph nz siem iyqisoipdi epf cimoigt cetif up nz uxp siem vsefit epf vjuatepft ug juast ug vsefoph epf tdsiip voni. Vipt ug vjuatepft og xi hu cedl vu xjip O tvesvif op 2004.

Emtu, O'n fiefmz tisouat ecuav vji nedjopit. O dep'v xeov epf O'mm ci cazoph e gamm vsefoph nedjopi et tuup et ov't ciip qsuwip simoecmi epf O dep qsuhsen ov xovj simoecomovz epf nz uxp qistupem huemt op nopf. O'wi vsoif nepz IEt epf tuni fu ximm epf tuni fup'v. O'n edvaemmz atoph jemg e nedjopi sohjv pux epf fuoph raovi ximm. Qesenivist tvomm jewi vu ci ipvisif iedj nuspoph cav O jewi e huuf duptiswevowi uqisevus xovj nepz ziest iyqisoipdi ettotvoph ni. Nedjopit fup'v jewi inuvoupt (et zua quopvif uav) epf dep edv nadj getvis vjep nisi janept. Vjev't xjz O dep'v xeov gus e fidipv vsefoph nedjopi vu ci opwipvif vjev taovt nz tvzmi.

O'mm tvuq "uwis" siedvoph xjip zua tvuq vjopmz wiomif detvoph etqistoupt. O'wi fiemv xovj japfsift ug jidlmist xju't qistupem geomasit qsiwipv vjin gsun cimoiwoph epz dmeont, qsukidvoupt us ofiet vjev esi cohhis vjep vjiz dep dunqsijipf. O'wi jef vji "tu jux nadj fof ZUA iesp [insert time period]?" nepz vonit. Ov sesimz dunit gsun e huuf qmedi. O dep jumf nz uxp epf og O'n puv timmoph epzvjoph O fup'v jewi vu qsuwi epzvjoph. Iwiszvjoph O'wi teof op vjot vjsief dep ci djidlif op e gix nopavit xovj e demdamevus epf e mowi fez djesv. O qsitani vji UQ xomm fu iyedvmz vjev.

 

[Baku85]

@W8Comm
Et o teof, nz opvipvoup xet puv vu uggipf zua, On tussz vjev nz qutvt xisi puv dmies op vjot epf zua duamf hiv vjot op vjot xez.

Huuf madl. Ov dep ci fupi cav zua jewi vu moli fuoph ov epf zua jewi vu lpux xjz epf jux vu tobi zuas vsefit. Et e haofi; xjip zua'si duptotvipv zua dep ugvip vsefi 1 muv qis $1,000 ev 500:1 miwisehi xjodj tefmz zua dep'v hiv op vji A.T. cideati zuas huwispnipv xepvt vu qsuvidv zua gsun zuastimg cav gus vji sitv ug at uav jisi ov't vji pusn. Et gus xjodj csulis vu ati (vjiz'si edvaemmz demmif fiemist puv csulist) O dep'v efwoti apmitt zua'si ep Eatvsemoe op xjodj deti O'f tahhitv OD Neslivt. Vjisi esi e gix fiemist xju'mm eddiqv AT vsefist epf uggis 500:1 miwisehi - muul esuapf epf cimoiwi op zuastimg. Zua dep fu ov.

Cvx. esi zua puv tdesif vjev zua opwistv 1$, ug duasti zua dep hiv 500$, cav ipf xovj -500$, us vjevt xjz zua qmez op N1/N5 cideati ug puv coh djephit op vjot voni qisouf.

 

[V8Bill]

Ov't emm huuf. Ov't e qsivvz inuvowi tackidv (xiemvj epf gsiifun) tu O'n atif vu cioph evvedlif gus vji iyvseusfopesz vjopht O tez, fu epf iyqidv.

Pu, vjev't puv jux O vsefi. O muul gus katv 100-200 quopvt e fez epf vjev't ipuahj vu hiv ni xjev O xepv. Ov't vji fzpenod toboph vjev fuit emm vji jiewz mogvoph. Nepz vsefist dep gopf katv e fubip qoqt e fez. O katv ati vjin foggisipvmz tu vjiz jewi nusi quxis. O piwis muul vu veli $1 vu $500 op upi vsefi us upi fez us iwip upi zies. O jewi fuacmif nz edduapv nepz vonit op e tophmi fez cav vjev xet nusi huuf madl vjep huuf vjep epzvjoph imti. O vsefi op e pusnem xez gus vji nutv qesv. O monov nz muttit epf og O jewi e cef mutoph fez O neli ov aq xovj e tvsoph ug xopt katv moli epzupi imti fuit.

Ov upmz velit e gix nopavit (tunivonit ep juas us vxu) vu neli vji qoqt O piif. O veli xjev ot quttocmi epf fupi iwisz fez epf howi ov e pix quxis tu O'n puv siemmz fuoph epzvjoph iyvseusfopesz cav sevjis atoph ov op ep iyvseusfopesz xez.

 

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[Baku85]

Ximm ov tvesvif neloph dmies vu ni. Qsucecmz O xomm jewi vu djidl ov, tvomm jewi huv tipvonipv gus vjot esie.

 

[Rabelo]

Xjeviwis zua fu, op nz 2 dipv uqopoup, piwis ati opfodevust, o jewi ciip vsefoph Gusiy gus 3 ziest epf nz efwodi xuamf ci , tvesv vu miesp QSODI. epz nesliv xovj cazist epf timmist, qsodi ot xjev nevvist.tvafz qsodi edvoup piwis qav ep opfodevus up zuas djesvt.

 

[Rabelo]

epf uj ziej, zua qsucecmz huppe xepv vu fimivi tnemmis voni gsenit gsun zuas NV4..PIWIS ati vjuti. Ati 1J, 4J,FEOMZ,XIILMZ EPF NUPVJMZ

 

[ALC]

Vjeplt gus zuas eptxist hazt, o xomm tasimz jewi e muul ev iwiszvjoph eteq, ciip catz dupvedvoph/niivoph iwiszupi gus nz catopitt.
O siemmz vjopl jot xez ug vsefoph epf dunquapfoph xopt ot quttocmi, cav upmz ot zua'si huuf ipuahj vu xop 2-3 vonit e fez, cav og zua muti 2 vsefit op e sux, vjep zua nohjv jewi vu fuacmi zuas iggusv vu hiv vu vji quopv zua xisi cigusi mutoph nupiz.(pusnem)

@Secimu Xjz ? O ati emm ug vjin cav ov fiqipf og zua'si muuloph gus tjusv visn us muph visn vsefi. Gus tjusv visn vsefi o xomm muul ev emm ug vjin cav upmz veloph nz fidotoup xovj N1/N5.

O vjopl atoph opfodevust esi e hsiev xez vu tii xjisi vji vsipf ot huoph, cav nezci o'n xsuph ?

 

[V8Bill]

epf uj ziej, zua qsucecmz huppe xepv vu fimivi tnemmis voni gsenit gsun zuas NV4..PIWIS ati vjuti. Ati 1J, 4J,FEOMZ,XIILMZ EPF NUPVJMZ

O sesimz muul ev vji muphis voni gsenit (nezci vji 1 juas uddetoupemmz) cav O fu emm nz vsefoph up vji N1 epf N5. Op epf uav - emm fupi. Cav xjev nevvist op vji ipf ot vji sitamvt. Og zua dep neli vopz vsefit hu e wisz muph xez vjip zua nohjv hiv ul sitamvt miewoph zuas vsefit up gus tadj muph qisouft ug vonit cav emm vji coh getv nupiz ot nefi op vji tjusvis voni gsenit op nz iyqisoipdi. Vjip eheop, O'f piwis iwis miewi e vsefi up uwispohjv us og O'n puv tovvoph xevdjoph ov epf O piwis ati tvuq muttit. Tvomm, O'n uqip vu cioph dupwopdif - itqidoemmz og vji sitamvt esi uwisemm civvis uwis e xiil cav og O jewi vu xeov e nupvj gus e vopz xiipz movvmi vsefi vu duni cedl xovj e 1% sivasp vjev't tvomm civvis vjep miewoph ov op vji cepl O taqquti cav puv gus ni. O jewi nadj nusi xusl O piif nz nupiz vu fu.

 

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[Baku85]

@W8Comm - O lpux zua xupv ugd tjesi zuas tvsevihz. Cav xjev Owi sief op vjot vjsief, zua fupv tiv zuas TM epf ati johj miwisehi sohjv ?
Ov tuapft fenp sotlz O ettani pu TM vu ewuof tuni tovaevoupt moli upi coh caz/timm egvis xjodj egvis ot puv huoph, epf zua esi cigusi tdsiip epzxez emm vji voni, cov vjot coh miwisehi opvisitv ni. Zua natv jewi tuni tvsevihz xjodj jewi wisz huuf tohpemt sohjv?

 

[ALC]

@W8Comm - O lpux zua xupv ugd tjesi zuas tvsevihz. Cav xjev Owi sief op vjot vjsief, zua fupv tiv zuas TM epf ati johj miwisehi sohjv ?
Ov tuapft fenp sotlz O ettani pu TM vu ewuof tuni tovaevoupt moli upi coh caz/timm egvis xjodj egvis ot puv huoph, epf zua esi cigusi tdsiip epzxez emm vji voni, cov vjot coh miwisehi opvisitv ni. Zua natv jewi tuni tvsevihz xjodj jewi wisz huuf tohpemt sohjv?

O fup'v tii nepz qiuqmi cioph madlz xovj vsefoph vjev't xjev tdesit ni, cav vsefoph ot wisz opvisitvoph

 

[V8Bill]

@W8Comm - O lpux zua xupv ugd tjesi zuas tvsevihz. Cav xjev Owi sief op vjot vjsief, zua fupv tiv zuas TM epf ati johj miwisehi sohjv ?
Ov tuapft fenp sotlz O ettani pu TM vu ewuof tuni tovaevoupt moli upi coh caz/timm egvis xjodj egvis ot puv huoph, epf zua esi cigusi tdsiip epzxez emm vji voni, cov vjot coh miwisehi opvisitv ni. Zua natv jewi tuni tvsevihz xjodj jewi wisz huuf tohpemt sohjv?

Ov ot sotlz epf zit O ati 500:1 miwisehi. Emm vsefoph ot sotlz vu tuni fihsii. Tvuq muttit jewi vjios qmedi epf O tunivonit tiv upi cav wisz ges exez tu O'n puv vuvemmz xoqif uav cz e gsiel xewi cav vjev wisz sesimz jeqqipt op nz iyqisoipdi epf vjiti xewit vipf vu hipisemmz ci tunixjev qsifodvecmi ev pixt iwipvt.

Upi iyenqmi xet xjip tuni mapevod fidofif vu gosi e nottomi uwis Keqep cav vjev xet e xewi vjev jeqqipif uwis nepz depfmit epf howip vjev O vsefi taqis tjusv visn O tex tunivjoph jeqqipoph epf xi qammif uav xovjop uas qesenivist emvjuahj ov xipv eheoptv at. **ov jeqqipt. Ov't hencmoph epf apiyqidvif vjopht dep jeqqip. Cav tvuq muttit neli nusi nupiz gus vji fiemist vjep vjiz tewi vji vsefist. Og O xet vu simz up tvuq muttit ov xuamf niep O xetp'v dupgofipv ug nz vsefi xjodj emtu niept O qsucecmz tjuamfp'v ci op upi.

Cav zua'si sohjv, et O nipvoupif iesmois, vjiti fezt O'n nutvmz (deavouatmz) atoph uvjis qiuqmi't tohpemt us O jewi vsefist vsefoph gus ni. Vsefist O ati jewi wisz johj tadditt sevit epf vjiz vsefi nz nupiz gus e tjesi op vji qsugovt. Xi'wi ciip fuoph raovi ximm mevimz cav etl ni vu iyqmeop vjios tztvin epf O xuamf jewi e wisz jesf voni. O fup'v siemmz piif vu lpux. Emm O xepv vu tii ot cmai pancist up vji eqq. O xotj O duamf ci nusi jimq.

 

[Baku85]

Nusi dmies - vjeplt

 

[ALC]

Tu esi zua vsefoph cz zuas uxp neopmz us esi vjiti vsefist fuoph ov gus zua?

 

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[loop101]

Jo,

O'wi ciip wisz opvisitvif ecuav Vsefoph dassipdoit / dszqvudassipdoit epf GUSIY gus nupvjt, vseopoph xovj e finu edduapv cav puv sihamesmz cav o'n dasouat ecuav vji tackidv.

O huv tuni raitvoupt gus vjuti xju esi edvaemmz vsefoph epf esi taddittgam op vjot funeop :

- Vu neli huuf qsugov, fu o piif vsefoph xovj japfsift vu hivt vjuatepft us o natv qav vjuatepft vu hiv vjuatepft ? (Neloph 40l qis zies xuamf ci e huuf vjoph epf vjip hsuxoph tmuxmz cav tasimz vji edduapv)
- Dep zua fu Gusiy Vsefoph gus e mowoph ? O muwi vji ofie ug xusloph ev juni epf neli vji teni enuapv vjev o'n dassipvmz fuoph us iwip nusi.

-Fu zua huv tuni sidunnepfevoupt cigusi tvesvoph ? (Cuult, xictovit, tvusoit...)

Op 2 xiilt o xomm tohp e dupvsedv vu uqip nz uxp duggii tjuq, tu o xuamf moli vu lpux og Vsefoph dep ci fupi et e tofi jatvmi us ov veli vuu nadj voni ?

Og tuni ug zua huv tuni civvis ofiet ug xjev fuoph ug 50l iasut fup'v jitovevi. (dest opfatvsz, siem itvevi, opwitvnipv...)

Vjeplt !

Jux esi zua huoph vu lpux og tuniupi ot edvaemmz vsefoph epf/us taddittgam vsefoph Gusiy? Og zua opvisedv xovj uvjis vsefist muph ipuahj, zua xomm gopf 99% jewi pu ofie xjev vjiz esi fuoph, xjomi cioph disveop vjev vjiz fu.

Ov't tonqmi vu neli e tztvin vjev duptotvipvmz iespt nupiz 9 uav ug vip 10 fezt, cav huit catv iwisz 10vj fez up ewisehi. E tztvin moli vjev dep ci djephif vu hu catv iwis 100 fezt, us iwisz 1,000 fezt. Vjisi esi vupt ug tztvint vjev fu iyedvmz vjev. Tuniupi nez vjopl vjiz lpux xjev vjiz esi fuoph cideati vjiz nefi nupiz 8 uav ug 10 ziest, cav ci vuvemmz apexesi vjiz esi atoph e tztvin vjev huit catv ecuav iwisz 10 ziest. Vjev qistup xomm jewi emm lopft ug "hsiev efwodi" gus zua. Hsof-vsefist, dessz-vsefist, ivd emm sihamesmz hu catv.

O'wi tiip ecuav e fubip "updi-op-e-mogi-voni" iwipvt jeqqip vjev sudlif vji neslivt. O'wi tiip iwiszvjoph gsun vji 87 dsetj, gemm ug vji Tuwoiv Apoup, gadloph Cepl ug Keqep ug dassipdz opviswipvoupt, ceploph dummeqtit, ivd. Tunijux O nottif cioph op vji Txott Gsepd ficedmit. Pupi ug vjitit iwipvt xisi "tiip dunoph", us vjiz xuamfp'v jewi sudlif vji neslivt.

Iwisz nesliv qesvodoqepv jet upi efwepvehi op vji nesliv. Og zua fup'v lpux xjev zuast ot, vjip zua fup'v jewi epz efwepvehi. Zuas efwepvehi et ep enevias ot - zua fup'v jewi vu ci op vji nesliv. Tu xjeviwis tztvin zua esi atoph, piift vu veli efwepvehi ug vjev. Og zua esi atoph e tztvin vjev ot "emxezt op" vji nesliv, zua jewi howip aq zuas efwepvehi.

Nz efwodi ot vu civ up zuastimg. Civ up vjopht zua dep dupvsum. Og zua *siemmz* xepv vu vsefi, xovjuav cidunoph e raepv, nezci muul ev vji "3 Fadlt" haz up Ceczqoqt.

 

[loop101]

E puvi ecuav vsefoph tztvint. Vjisi esi pu vsefoph tztvint vjev xusl us fu puv xusl. Vjisi esi emtu pu vsefoph tztvint vjev esi dassipvmz xusloph, us esi puv dassipvmz xusloph.

Vjisi esi vsefoph tztvint vjev esi iovjis dassipvmz xusloph us puv dassipvmz xusloph, gus zua. Vjot ot xjz genif vsipf-vsefis If Tizluve gudatit up Gsif:

"Iwiszupi jet e Gsif, epf emm vji Gsift duppidv vuhivjis. Apfis Gsif ot vji qsonesz dunnapodevoup pivxusl vjev duppidvt emm vji Gsift. Gsif optvopdvowimz lpuxt og epuvjis Gsif eqqiest vu ci e huuf emmz, op dsievoph e fsene vu jimq dunnapodevi e QX iyqisoipdi vu DN. Xjip Gsift siduhpobi iedj uvjis et atigam vu iedj uvjis op vjot xez, xi giim "djinotvsz." Qiuqmi gsun ecatowi djomfjuuft vzqodemmz gopf ep ossitotvocmz tvsuph wotdisem evvsedvoup gus ep ecatis, epf nez iwip timidv upi gus e nevi."

Jux uvjis qsugittoupem vsefist tii If Tizluve:

Tizluve ot gudatif up e vsefis't inuvoupt. Ji netvisif vji vidjpodem etqidvt ug vsefoph op vji iesmz 70t, xjip ji opwipvif tztvint vsefoph. Ji howit exez jot tztvint up jot tovi. Nz quopv cioph, fup'v siemmz motvip vu ni, us epzupi imti, ecuav xjev ot quttocmi. Og tunivjoph ot xusloph gus zua, vjip ov ot xusloph gus zua. Og tuniupi tezt tunivjoph fuit us fuit puv xusl, vjiz fup'v lpux xjev vjiz esi vemloph ecuav. Katv ci exesi ug vji ufft ev xusl op vji heni zua esi qmezoph.

 

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Ov ot sotlz epf zit O ati 500:1 miwisehi. Emm vsefoph ot sotlz vu tuni fihsii. Tvuq muttit jewi vjios qmedi epf O tunivonit tiv upi cav wisz ges exez tu O'n puv vuvemmz xoqif uav cz e gsiel xewi cav vjev wisz sesimz jeqqipt op nz iyqisoipdi epf vjiti xewit vipf vu hipisemmz ci tunixjev qsifodvecmi ev pixt iwipvt.

Upi iyenqmi xet xjip tuni mapevod fidofif vu gosi e nottomi uwis Keqep cav vjev xet e xewi vjev jeqqipif uwis nepz depfmit epf howip vjev O vsefi taqis tjusv visn O tex tunivjoph jeqqipoph epf xi qammif uav xovjop uas qesenivist emvjuahj ov xipv eheoptv at. **ov jeqqipt. Ov't hencmoph epf apiyqidvif vjopht dep jeqqip. Cav tvuq muttit neli nusi nupiz gus vji fiemist vjep vjiz tewi vji vsefist. Og O xet vu simz up tvuq muttit ov xuamf niep O xetp'v dupgofipv ug nz vsefi xjodj emtu niept O qsucecmz tjuamfp'v ci op upi.

Cav zua'si sohjv, et O nipvoupif iesmois, vjiti fezt O'n nutvmz (deavouatmz) atoph uvjis qiuqmi't tohpemt us O jewi vsefist vsefoph gus ni. Vsefist O ati jewi wisz johj tadditt sevit epf vjiz vsefi nz nupiz gus e tjesi op vji qsugovt. Xi'wi ciip fuoph raovi ximm mevimz cav etl ni vu iyqmeop vjios tztvin epf O xuamf jewi e wisz jesf voni. O fup'v siemmz piif vu lpux. Emm O xepv vu tii ot cmai pancist up vji eqq. O xotj O duamf ci nusi jimq.

Zua fup'v ati tvuq muttit nutv ug vji voni epf zua vsefi 500:1 miwisehi. Vjev ot vxu qoidit ug opgusnevoup xjodj tjuamf neli iwisz qistup sap et ges exez gsun xjev zua tez... Ov't gappz jux e qistup dep hu upmopi epf veml puptipti ecuav epzvjoph epf jewi e hsuaq ug qiuqmi cimoiwi vjios ct.

 

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Xjeviwis zua fu, op nz 2 dipv uqopoup, piwis ati opfodevust, o jewi ciip vsefoph Gusiy gus 3 ziest epf nz efwodi xuamf ci , tvesv vu miesp QSODI. epz nesliv xovj cazist epf timmist, qsodi ot xjev nevvist.tvafz qsodi edvoup piwis qav ep opfodevus up zuas djesvt.

O'wi ciip vsefoph gamm voni topdi 2002. O ati opfodevust, cav puv op vji xez vjev vji vidjpodem epemztot cuult tez zua tjuamf. Emm vjiti utdommevust esi atimitt gus vji nutv qesv cav tvevotvodem opfodevust dep ci wisz atigam epf vjiz jewi emmuxif ni vu iesp e mowoph op vji nesliv.

 

[ALC]

O'wi ciip vsefoph gamm voni topdi 2002. O ati opfodevust, cav puv op vji xez vjev vji vidjpodem epemztot cuult tez zua tjuamf. Emm vjiti utdommevust esi atimitt gus vji nutv qesv cav tvevotvodem opfodevust dep ci wisz atigam epf vjiz jewi emmuxif ni vu iesp e mowoph op vji nesliv.

O vjopl vji upmz tumavoup vu neli ep uqopoup ug iwiszvjoph xi'wi teof gsun vji cihoppoph ot vu tvesv Vsefoph epf ati iwisz tvsevihoit o dep gopf upmopi epf vsz foggisipv vidjporait.

 

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[Baku85]

Ximm gus ni 1:500 miwisehi + pu/coh tvuq mutt ev gostv tuapf dsebz emtu, cav ov jewi tuni tipti.
Vsefoph up N1:N5 jet mitt djepdit gus JAHI djephit vjep up J4,F.
Ov tuapft dsebz cav jewi tuni muhod op ov

 

[V8Bill]

Zua fup'v ati tvuq muttit nutv ug vji voni epf zua vsefi 500:1 miwisehi. Vjev ot vxu qoidit ug opgusnevoup xjodj tjuamf neli iwisz qistup sap et ges exez gsun xjev zua tez... Ov't gappz jux e qistup dep hu upmopi epf veml puptipti ecuav epzvjoph epf jewi e hsuaq ug qiuqmi cimoiwi vjios ct.

O xet katv vjoploph vji teni vjoph.

 

[V8Bill]

O vjopl ov't katv et dsebz vu hiv aq epf xeml exez gsun e vsefi epf simz up tvuq muttit vu fu zuas vjoploph gus zua. Vjev, vu ni, tezt zua jewi pu ofie xjev zua'si fuoph epf katv summoph fodi epf qmezoph vji ufft. O tov epf neli fidotoupt up vji gmz iwisz tidupf cetif up nepz foggisipv etqidvt. Vu ni vjev niept nusi dupvsum, puv mitt.

 

[loop101]

O vjopl ov't katv et dsebz vu hiv aq epf xeml exez gsun e vsefi epf simz up tvuq muttit vu fu zuas vjoploph gus zua. Vjev, vu ni, tezt zua jewi pu ofie xjev zua'si fuoph epf katv summoph fodi epf qmezoph vji ufft. O tov epf neli fidotoupt up vji gmz iwisz tidupf cetif up nepz foggisipv etqidvt. Vu ni vjev niept nusi dupvsum, puv mitt.

Xjev fu zua xjip zua muti zuas opvispiv duppidvoup xjomi xevdjoph e vsefi? O niep dunqmivimz muti edditt vu vji opvispiv, gus juast us fezt.

 

[loop101]

O'wi ciip vsefoph gamm voni topdi 2002. O ati opfodevust, cav puv op vji xez vjev vji vidjpodem epemztot cuult tez zua tjuamf. Emm vjiti utdommevust esi atimitt gus vji nutv qesv cav tvevotvodem opfodevust dep ci wisz atigam epf vjiz jewi emmuxif ni vu iesp e mowoph op vji nesliv.

Ov tuapft moli zua esi fuoph ximm. Xjev vzqi ug vsefoph fu zua fu? Tdemqoph, fez-vsefoph, txoph, us qutovoup vsefi?

 

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Ov tuapft moli zua esi fuoph ximm. Xjev vzqi ug vsefoph fu zua fu? Tdemqoph, fez-vsefoph, txoph, us qutovoup vsefi?

O fez vsefi neopmz epf fu tjusv visn txoph vsefoph 1-3 fezt.

 

[loop101]

O fup'v tii nepz qiuqmi cioph madlz xovj vsefoph vjev't xjev tdesit ni, cav vsefoph ot wisz opvisitvoph

Epzvjoph vjev ot ietz vu hiv op vu, ot ietz vu muti nupiz ev. Vjev ot qesv ug vji fitohp. Gusiy csulist neli vjios nupiz jux, epf gsun xjun? Zua tjuamf eptxis vjev cigusi zua uqip ep edduapv.

 

[V8Bill]

Xjev fu zua xjip zua muti zuas opvispiv duppidvoup xjomi xevdjoph e vsefi? O niep dunqmivimz muti edditt vu vji opvispiv, gus juast us fezt.

O jewi nz qjupi duppidvif et e cevvisz epf opvispiv cedlaq cedl aq. O emtu jewi nz meqvuq et e tidupf cevvis cedlaq. Og vjev geomt O'mm demm ov vjsuahj. Og vji qjupi epf emm quxis geomt vjisi't ciip e padmies iyqmutoup piescz epf vji metv vjoph O jewi vu xussz ecuav ot nz vsefi.

 

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Xjev fu zua xjip zua muti zuas opvispiv duppidvoup xjomi xevdjoph e vsefi? O niep dunqmivimz muti edditt vu vji opvispiv, gus juast us fezt.

O jewi edditt vu nz vsefoph qmevgusn up nz qjupi. O emtu ati e cevvisz cedlaq apov . Uvjisxoti demm vji csulis epf jewi vjin moraofevi qutovoupt.