Making money and models, 2017 - 10 step tutorial

[chriswho]

Alright. My first thread. Hopefully I am doing everything right.

This is an idea which sounds relatively easy to me. I run several websites and have new ideas each day. So I am just sharing this one with you. I will not execute it as I am busy with my other websites. Feel free to adopt this idea or develop it for your needs.

I am from Germany and researched the market for this in Germany. I think this is transferable to the USA (and other states) as well. I did not research on competition in other states than Germany.

A short (quick 'n dirty) instruction in 10 steps:

1. Save the domain topmodel-2017.com (or similar - topmodel-2017 is free until now).

2. Build a functional and simple but classy looking website on that domain (based on WordPress with a Premium or free theme).

3. Summarize the former seasons of America's Next Topmodel with all the details you can extract.

4. Write content to America's Next Topmodel 2017. Make suggestions and assumptions according the judges and challenges.

5. On the first day ANTM is viewed in TV commercials find the press releases and create a profile page for each new model with details and photos about the models.

6. Fill the site with further information about the show. Write a summary for each episode when broadcasted in TV and these things. Thus you should bring your site to the top of Google's search rankings (you can invest money and execute active on- and offpage SEO as well, if you have the money and/or know what you are doing).

7. Insert a button "I want to become a model" onto the top of your site with an upload form. Request all details you can get (such as name, height, weight, birthday, haircolor, eyecolor, etc.). Also request different photos in this form.

8. Wait for the applicants and the enthusiastic visitors of your site.
Now you have the hot girls! Let's go to making money out of this.

9. Get in touch with model agencies and tell them you are an model arbitrator (don't know if this is the right word, sorry - you'll get what I mean) / agent and ask what they pay you for making a successful placement of one model (sorry again if this is not the correct word. I mean by placement that you give the agency the contact data and the agency lists the model in their files and lets companies book that model (which they get paid for)). You can also come up with "free" model applications at first to show them you have the contacts. A perfect would be if they pay you for a "lead" (instead of a placement).

10. Trade a good price. There are different types of models. Mainly there are hostesses (which are the "cheapest", photomodels and catwalk models (which are the "most expensive" ones).
The agencies in Germany usually take up to 40% of the model's fee. Some agencies also get paid for having the models in their files. Most models get paid hourly (catwalk models get paid for shows). If we assume you traded these commissions for you: Hostess: $50, photomodel: $75, catwalk model: $300. And also assuming the models get placed 1/3 in type (33% hostesses, 33% photo, 33% catwalk) you make ~1,400 bucks if you arbitrage 10 models a month. If you leverage this to 100 per month (or whatever number is possible), you can earn a good income.

If you don't want to do the arbitrage work, you can outsource this step to a virtual assistant if the project runs once.
If you can handle to become on site 1 of Google (between steps 4-6), you just utilize the broadcaster's marketing for the show for your needs.

Chris

 

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[theag]

I dont see this being profitable or even working at all..

Have you successfully done something similar or why are you recommending this to people?

 

[Supa]

7. Insert a button "I want to become a model" onto the top of your site with an upload form. Request all details you can get (such as name, height, weight, birthday, haircolor, eyecolor, etc.). Also request different photos in this form.

So you want to give them the feeling of applying to the show, while in reality you sell their personal data to model agencies?

 

[chriswho]

I dont see this being profitable or even working at all..

Have you successfully done something similar or why are you recommending this to people?

Thank you for your participation. Can you concretize your apprehension of the profitability?
On which part do you think that won't work?

Not exactly similar. But this is an affiliate-like model which I am familiar with out of different projects. I thought of markets which are not oversaturated because every marketer trys to enter it and came up with modeling. The ANTM part came to my mind when thinking about "go wehre your audience is".

 

[chriswho]

So you want to give them the feeling of applying to the show, while in reality you sell their personal data to model agencies?

Of course you have to make clear the are not applying to the show. Sorry if my quick tutorial did not cover that part in detail.

 

[Delmania]

You want to act as the mediator between an aspiring model and a model agency.

How do you do this better than the agencies themselves?

Edit: Furthermore, the type of content you're looking to produce would be more along the lines of someone who wants to coach people to be models, not someone looking to connect models with agencies. For that part, you'd want something where you provide ways for models to be successful when auditioning with an agency.

 

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[chriswho]

You want to act as the mediator between an aspiring model and a model agency.

How do you do this better than the agencies themselves?

You deliver the agencies new aspiring models which they can procure to the companies which need models. You don't have to do better than the agencies as these are your clients. Or did I get you wrong with that?

 

[Delmania]

You deliver the agencies new aspiring models which they can procure to the companies which need models. You don't have to do better than the agencies as these are your clients. Or did I get you wrong with that?

What do benefit do you bring to your clients? Why would they chose to go with you and not directly contact the agency itself?

 

[chriswho]

What do benefit do you bring to your clients? Why would they chose to go with you and not directly contact the agency itself?

It's about the momentum and the marketing. They see the commercial, look up the show in the internet, find your site and apply because they think "oh that seems easy. I could apply here". Of course they could apply at agencies directly, but as said, this is about the impulsive decision, easiness of finding the content and easiness of application.

Above all it is nearly free.

 

[Merlox]

I think that that is a good idea but the execution is what matters

 

[chriswho]

I think that that is a good idea but the execution is what matters

Thank you. That's right. This is why I am sharing it here as I myself can't execute it right now as I have other projects which require my attention at 110%.

 

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[theag]

Can you concretize your apprehension of the profitability?
On which part do you think that won't work?

Time spent on building this, writing a bunch of content in the beginning and then again every show, doing SEO and/or money spent on ads, time spent on getting agencies that will actually buy your leads, managing the leads, dealing with hysteric wannabe models once they find out that you're not an official page etc etc.

Outranking all of the big media/lifestyle sites that usually cover shows like this extensively will be quite a challenge. Cheap traffic via FB ads might work. But I just don't think your monetization strategy is solid enough to profit from, even very cheap, paid traffic.

But anyways, you yourself don't even believe enough in it to execute, so that kinda proves my point.

 

[The-J]

But anyways, you yourself don't even believe enough in it to execute, so that kinda proves my point.

[HASHTAG]#landfill[/HASHTAG]

This would go better in the INSIDERS INE board, but since it's not even worth it to start it for free, then it doesn't belong on the forum at all.

 

[chriswho]

Time spent on building this, writing a bunch of content in the beginning and then again every show, doing SEO and/or money spent on ads, time spent on getting agencies that will actually buy your leads, managing the leads, dealing with hysteric wannabe models once they find out that you're not an official page etc etc.

Outranking all of the big media/lifestyle sites that usually cover shows like this extensively will be quite a challenge. Cheap traffic via FB ads might work. But I just don't think your monetization strategy is solid enough to profit from, even very cheap, paid traffic.

But anyways, you yourself don't even believe enough in it to execute, so that kinda proves my point.

Surely this requires time and work. The success of this idea is (as every other success) dependent on various factors. I get your points and I guess outranking the media websites is the most difficult part assuming not to use paid traffic sources.

As you mentioned: All this takes much time and I don't have this time in cause of my other project(s). I introduced this idea for people who might not have these time issues and want to develop this idea. But I surely get what you are saying and of course exscuting these 10 steps is not as easy as reading this post.

 

[Ubermensch]

I dont see this being profitable or even working at all..

Have you successfully done something similar or why are you recommending this to people?

@ChasingPaper

LMFAO.

Stop playin', brother.

We both know there are reasons beyond profit for one with money to engage in such tomfoolery.

Not that there's anything at all wrong with tomfoolery.

I am refraining from discussing our conversation in @Cyriex 's Skype thread for 2016.

I'm up ~$50k (Cyriex will confirm this...We discussed general details over Skype).

Deal closed.

Funds getting transferred.

Only gettin' warmed up.

Got WAY bigger ones lined up.

Payout happens over the course of the next several months.

First payment in a few weeks.

@AndrewNC: Where you at, bro? Last time I checked you were at $1,000 and some change.

@Vigilante: I left the group because there was too much noise. For the same reason MJ closed the thread. Some wannabe hustlers and non-money makers (but big talkers) snuck in the group early, before Cryiex really vetted them. Soured the experience real quick.

Cyriex is one smart a$$ dude, though.

And @theag is like the dictator cousin that I never had.

 

[theag]

We both know there are reasons beyond profit for one with money to engage in such tomfoolery.

Not that there's anything at all wrong with tomfoolery.

I am refraining from discussing our conversation in @Cyriex 's Skype thread for 2016.

 

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[HyperFocus]

I think finding girls is easy, but how will u make money off them? Agencies can find girls themselves too why would they pay you.

I think the idea can still work. Create a good brand and get paid to be at expensive parties etc. Show u are reliable and have the hottest girls.

U need to be a master communicator to make it work.

 

[theag]

I think finding girls is easy, but how will u make money off them?

@Ubermensch

 

[HyperFocus]

@Ubermensch

What do u mean ?

 

[JDawg]

Now you have the hot girls! Let's go to making money out of this.

If anyone is super desperate to find a girlfriend, this could be your lucky day. Forget about making money. LOL

 

[theag]

What do u mean ?

Ahh nothing, just some joint venture with the same target audience that me and @Ubermensch are considering haha

 

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[Gsuz]

Twists to this method:

• Escort agency
• Webcam studio
• Casting couch

 

[csalvato]

6. Fill the site with further information about the show. Write a summary for each episode when broadcasted in TV and these things. Thus you should bring your site to the top of Google's search rankings (you can invest money and execute active on- and offpage SEO as well, if you have the money and/or know what you are doing).

There are probably others, but this is the hole in your plan.

Just creating this site, even with that domain, won't get you dick for rankings without social signals and backlinks.

I can't speak for the rest of this plan, but step 6 is way more complicated than you're letting on, right @eliquid ?

 

[GuestUser140]

It sounds like you started with the hot girls in mind (and money too), rather than asking what you can offer the world.

How can you make what you do indispensable?

Nothing wrong with plans involving hot girls though.

 

[Mr.Donnerhuhn]

Nothing wrong with plans involving hot girls though.

This, idk if any redditors are on here; but a porno site did some powerful viral marketing in the course of a few hours yesterday.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/41xwxk/iama_girl_from_girlsdoporncom_ama/

 

[redsfaithful]

There are probably others, but this is the hole in your plan.

Just creating this site, even with that domain, won't get you dick for rankings without social signals and backlinks.

I can't speak for the rest of this plan, but step 6 is way more complicated than you're letting on, right @eliquid ?

It might have worked like 10+ years ago.

Creating a website without the intention of going balls to the wall with content creation, design, marketing, passion, expertise, and so on is a really bad idea at this date. Still plenty of opportunity, but not like this.

A business model I remember from 15 years ago, which was shady as hell, was:

1. be a "modeling agency"

2. spam job boards like monster saying you were hiring talent scouts

3. talent scouts had to pay a fee to sign up (sort of like MLM, have to sign up and get your kit!) - I imagine this is where 99.9999999% of the profit came from

4. for any girls that actually make their way to you, either from your website or if a "talent scout" sends a girl to you, upsell them on photos, website, etc. that will help them get noticed

I remember researching it when a friend showed me the job ad. A really scammy way of selling shovels to prospectors.

I imagine there is still modeling lead gen done in similar ways, because it's an industry that preys on people.

 

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[NathanK]

Personally I don't see the "need" if you are not offering something more then what is already out there with modeling company's. Might work though.

 

[chriswho]

There are probably others, but this is the hole in your plan.

Just creating this site, even with that domain, won't get you dick for rankings without social signals and backlinks.

I can't speak for the rest of this plan, but step 6 is way more complicated than you're letting on, right @eliquid ?

Creating a website without the intention of going balls to the wall with content creation, design, marketing, passion, expertise, and so on is a really bad idea at this date. Still plenty of opportunity, but not like this.

At point 6 I really did't want to examine how to practice good SEO. This thread was meant as the concept of the idea. I am aware of the fact that posting a few posts and having a good domain is not the only thing when it comes to SEO.

Further more - as mentioned before - I only researched Google's competition in Germany and it seems like it is doable here. Maybe you have to put more affort in SEO when transfering that into other countries.