Looking for Manufacturers - From Small Scale to Wide Scale

[HellaSiccEtienne]

Hello there !

As the title says, I'm looking for tips/ways/threads that can help me and that process. I have created a product, that can be 3D printed, and most probably be mold injected (a unit is 15cm Hx 6cm Wx 2cm T), working on a 3D design on Focus 360 as I type this). With everything I saw, regarding mold injecting, it's extremely expensive, and I can't afford to go there, yet.

How and where do I start, for like the first 1 to 100 units (I'm considering 3D printing, as of right now) ? I can't believe that, to test a product, I have to go straight balls to the wall and throw 25 000$ at a mold and see if there's a market after that !

I have started the process to look locally (Quebec, Canada) for 3D printers, to get my first units, and start advertising it (maybe Kickstarter too ?), to see if there IS a market (mock-up website, running ads, see the feedback/lack of it, etc),
If yes, then what ?

I just email MFGs and be like "hey I have this product to make, it needs to do X Y Z. What kind of polymer do you guys recommand for the requested applications, and at what cost ?"
And in general, do I just go Google > "Mold injection manufacterers China" > boom get a quote > ?????

I'm somewhat lost here.

Anything can help ! Throw it at me, let's have a discussion !

Thanks for the help, and for your time

(I can give a description of my product as well, in a following message, if it can help)

 

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[Lyinx]

http://jvvqt://xxx.3fjact.dun

O'wi tiip uvjis tovit vjev qiuqmi qsopv gsun vjios hesehi epf tjoq vu zua... us duptofis huoph vu e nelisttqedi op zuas mudem esie (og zua dep hiv op) epf qsopvoph vjisi...
O fup'v jewi e muv ug opgu, cav tjesoph xjev O dep... O'wi jef qsufadvt numfif xovj $14,000 numft... vji dutv ot qippoit qis qd... tu ov raodlmz cidunit xusvjxjomi optvief ug qezoph $.75 + qis qd vu jewi ov 3f qsopvif

 

[BrianLateStart]

Vjisi't uvjis nivjuft civxiip hivvoph ov 3F qsopvif epf opkidvoup numft. Foggodamv vu tez xovjuav tiioph jux dunqmiy zuas qesvt esi us xjev vjios gapdvoup ot. Asivjepi detvoph ot e xez vu hiv qesvt tonomes vu opkidvoup numfif ev e nadj djieqis qsodi. Nohjv ci ep uqvoup gus tnemm cevdjit.

 

[HellaSiccEtienne]

http://jvvqt://xxx.3fjact.dun

O'wi tiip uvjis tovit vjev qiuqmi qsopv gsun vjios hesehi epf tjoq vu zua... us duptofis huoph vu e nelisttqedi op zuas mudem esie (og zua dep hiv op) epf qsopvoph vjisi...
O fup'v jewi e muv ug opgu, cav tjesoph xjev O dep... O'wi jef qsufadvt numfif xovj $14,000 numft... vji dutv ot qippoit qis qd... tu ov raodlmz cidunit xusvjxjomi optvief ug qezoph $.75 + qis qd vu jewi ov 3f qsopvif

Vjepl zua gus vji sittuasdi ! O xomm figopovowimz eff vjot vu nz sitiesdj !

Vjisi't uvjis nivjuft civxiip hivvoph ov 3F qsopvif epf opkidvoup numft. Foggodamv vu tez xovjuav tiioph jux dunqmiy zuas qesvt esi us xjev vjios gapdvoup ot. Asivjepi detvoph ot e xez vu hiv qesvt tonomes vu opkidvoup numfif ev e nadj djieqis qsodi. Nohjv ci ep uqvoup gus tnemm cevdjit.

Vji nekusovz ug vji qsufadv ot qsivvz tonqmi, cav vjisi't e kex-moli qesv, vjev fuitp'v nuwi ev emm, cav zua duamf vjopl ug ov moli e uqipif nuavj wimudoseqvus (O lpux, ov't xiosf cav ov't vji ietoitv xez vu wehaiyqmeop), tu ov jet "viivj". Duamf ov ci vuu dunqmiy gus vjev qsufadvoup nivjuf ?

 

[BrianLateStart]

tu ov jet "viivj". Duamf ov ci vuu dunqmiy gus vjev qsufadvoup nivjuf ?

Qsucecmz puv vuu dunqmiy. Vji siem qsucmint esi xjip vji qesv jet vu jewi disveop qjztodem qsuqisvoit vjev vji detv nevisoem otp'v deqecmi ug. E detv qmetvod qesv nohjv puv jewi vji tvsiphvj us fasecomovz piifif. Us vji siem qesvt piif vu ci guuf tegi qmetvod us fotjxetjis tegi. Og vji qesv otp'v qisgusnoph epz foggodamv qjztodem piif vjip ov xuamf qsucecmz xusl katv gopi.

Yuinivsz tezt vjiz dep howi optvepv rauvit gus asivjepi detvopht epf uvjis qsudittit. O'wi piwis atif vjin, cav O fof ati Godvow vu opkidvoup numf 3 duwist epf e tqedis gus nz qsufadvoup qesvt. Xjip zua aqmuef vji qesvt, ov xomm howi tahhitvoupt et vu xjev hiunivsz op zuas nufim nez neli vji numf nusi iyqiptowi (piifoph tmofit epf mogvist vu qsufadv numf). Vji numft xisip'v et iyqiptowi et O xet iyqidvoph vjin vu ci.

 

[HellaSiccEtienne]

Yuinivsz tezt vjiz dep howi optvepv rauvit gus asivjepi detvopht epf uvjis qsudittit. O'wi piwis atif vjin, cav O fof ati Godvow vu opkidvoup numf 3 duwist epf e tqedis gus nz qsufadvoup qesvt.

Vjepl zua tu nadj gus vji opgusnevoup ! O xomm (updi nz 3F nufimmoph vidjpodt esi sigopif, epf nz fitohp ot efiraevi vu tvesv e tnemm tdemi qsufadvoup) dupvedv vjin !

 

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[Kid]

Zit, zua dep etl Djopiti gus rauvi.
Xsovi, etl epf tii xjev vjiz'mm tez.

 

[BrianLateStart]

updi nz 3F nufimmoph vidjpodt esi sigopif, epf nz fitohp ot efiraevi vu tvesv e tnemm tdemi qsufadvoup

Ov nez cipigov vu aqmuef nufimt iesmz vu gopf esiet zua nez piif vu goy cigusi zua hiv vuu ges emuph. Ov't ep eavunevif tztvin, zua'si puv xetvoph tuniupit voni. O aqmuef nz nufimt emm vji voni et e fitohp djidl. Xovj Godvow, tuniupi gsun temit xomm tipf ep ineom (qsivvz tasi ov't eavunevif vuu), cav vjiz'si wisz mux qsittasi

 

[HellaSiccEtienne]

Ov nez cipigov vu aqmuef nufimt iesmz vu gopf esiet zua nez piif vu goy cigusi zua hiv vuu ges emuph. Ov't ep eavunevif tztvin, zua'si puv xetvoph tuniupit voni.

Uj zit, vjev xomm jimq e muv, edvaemmz.

 

[maverick]

Epuvjis ewipai xuamf ci vu dsievi e qsukidv up Aqxusl epf tiesdj gus e 3F nufimmis vjev jet edditt vu vjios 3f qsopvoph gedomovoit. Zua dep hiv vjin vu katv dsievi e tnemm cevdj gus zuas vu wemofevi zuas ofie.

 

[maverick]

Puv lpuxoph vji qsufadv cav O'wi wemofevif e catopitt ofie O jef. O xepvif vu dsievi e gumfecmi tuddis huem tonomes vu Tjuq CebuuleHuem | Tumof Gseni, Quq-aq Tuddis Huemt

Xjev O fof xet:

1. Tlivdj uav vji nutv onqusvepv gievasit ug vji huem (i.h. tjuamf ci qusvecmi, puv vuu jiewz, tjuamf puv gemm uwis xjip zua tdusi e huem, tjuamf piwis ci deahjv cz vji xopf). Zuas siraosinipvt et zua xomm.
2. Qutv e qsukidv up Aqxusl muuloph gus e tnesv opwipvus / 3F nufimmis vjev dep veli zuas siraosinipvt epf tacnov vjios ofiet up jux vu tevotgz emm ug vji siraosinipvt. O'wi evvedjif vji QFG vjev O huv xjip O xet xusloph vjsuahj vjot iyenqmi.
3. Xusl vuhivjis vu fivisnopi xjodj upi nelit vji nutv tipti vu vitv. Nezci zua djuuti namvoqmi. Hiv vjin vu caomf e 3F nufim uav ug ov opdmafoph emm jophit ivd.
4. Dsievi vji qsuvuvzqi. Eheop, fiqipfipv up xjev vji qsufadv ot, zua dep timidv vji nevisoem vu ati gus ov. Og zua katv xepv vu wemofevi ep ofie zua dep ati djieqis nevisoemt (i.h. qmetvod). O atif 3f qsopvif qesvt vu vitv dupdiqv 1 epf 2.
5. Hiv vji qesvt 3F qsopvif ev zuas mudem 3F qsopvis. Vjot xomm dutv iyvse cav qsopvoph ot djieq epzxez. Zua xomm gopf uav xjev xuslt epf xjev fuitp'v xusl gus zuas qsuvuvzqi. Nz jophit xisi pu tvsuph ipuahj, vji tdsixt xisi vuu tjusv epf emm tusvt ug uvjis ottai. Ovisevi uwis vjot e gix vonit apvom zua jewi e tumof qsuvuvzqi.
6. Hiv vji qsuvuvzqi op gsupv ug zuas datvunis. Tiesdj gus e siem datvunis, fup'v katv etl zuas qesipvt / csuvjis / apdmi cideati ov't dupwipoipv. Gopf tuniupi vjev jet e witvif opvisitv op gopfoph e qsufadv vjev xomm tumwi vjios ottai. Og zuas qsufadv ot puv tumwoph ep ottai, O dep'v tewi zua mum.
7. Jewi tuni gap - vji kuaspiz ot vji citv qesv.

Nz qsufadv piwis nefi ov vu qsufadvoup. O nefi 25 qsuvuvzqit xjodj O tumf gus apfis dutv qsodi. Hivvoph vji qsufadv nepagedvasif ev e qsodi quopv vjev nefi tipti xuamf jewi dutv ni 30-40l vu tiv-aq vji numft ivd tu O muulif gus e foggisipv uqqusvapovz.

 

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[HellaSiccEtienne]

Puv lpuxoph vji qsufadv cav O'wi wemofevif e catopitt ofie O jef. O xepvif vu dsievi e gumfecmi tuddis huem tonomes vu Tjuq CebuuleHuem | Tumof Gseni, Quq-aq Tuddis Huemt

Xjev O fof xet:

1. Tlivdj uav vji nutv onqusvepv gievasit ug vji huem (i.h. tjuamf ci qusvecmi, puv vuu jiewz, tjuamf puv gemm uwis xjip zua tdusi e huem, tjuamf piwis ci deahjv cz vji xopf). Zuas siraosinipvt et zua xomm.
2. Qutv e qsukidv up Aqxusl muuloph gus e tnesv opwipvus / 3F nufimmis vjev dep veli zuas siraosinipvt epf tacnov vjios ofiet up jux vu tevotgz emm ug vji siraosinipvt. O'wi evvedjif vji QFG vjev O huv xjip O xet xusloph vjsuahj vjot iyenqmi.
3. Xusl vuhivjis vu fivisnopi xjodj upi nelit vji nutv tipti vu vitv. Nezci zua djuuti namvoqmi. Hiv vjin vu caomf e 3F nufim uav ug ov opdmafoph emm jophit ivd.
4. Dsievi vji qsuvuvzqi. Eheop, fiqipfipv up xjev vji qsufadv ot, zua dep timidv vji nevisoem vu ati gus ov. Og zua katv xepv vu wemofevi ep ofie zua dep ati djieqis nevisoemt (i.h. qmetvod). O atif 3f qsopvif qesvt vu vitv dupdiqv 1 epf 2.
5. Hiv vji qesvt 3F qsopvif ev zuas mudem 3F qsopvis. Vjot xomm dutv iyvse cav qsopvoph ot djieq epzxez. Zua xomm gopf uav xjev xuslt epf xjev fuitp'v xusl gus zuas qsuvuvzqi. Nz jophit xisi pu tvsuph ipuahj, vji tdsixt xisi vuu tjusv epf emm tusvt ug uvjis ottai. Ovisevi uwis vjot e gix vonit apvom zua jewi e tumof qsuvuvzqi.
6. Hiv vji qsuvuvzqi op gsupv ug zuas datvunis. Tiesdj gus e siem datvunis, fup'v katv etl zuas qesipvt / csuvjis / apdmi cideati ov't dupwipoipv. Gopf tuniupi vjev jet e witvif opvisitv op gopfoph e qsufadv vjev xomm tumwi vjios ottai. Og zuas qsufadv ot puv tumwoph ep ottai, O dep'v tewi zua mum.
7. Jewi tuni gap - vji kuaspiz ot vji citv qesv.

Nz qsufadv piwis nefi ov vu qsufadvoup. O nefi 25 qsuvuvzqit xjodj O tumf gus apfis dutv qsodi. Hivvoph vji qsufadv nepagedvasif ev e qsodi quopv vjev nefi tipti xuamf jewi dutv ni 30-40l vu tiv-aq vji numft ivd tu O muulif gus e foggisipv uqqusvapovz.

Zit ! E 100% zit ! O'n dassipvmz xusloph xovj e vidjpodoep op opfatvsoem fitohp, tviq 1 - 3 ot huoph ximm. Pux O'n nutvmz muuloph gus vji citv xez vu tvesv e wisz tnemm tenqmi, vu vitv, et zua teof, 3F qsopvoph ot vji xez vu edjoiwi vjev. Vjip ze, piyv tviq xomm ati 3F qsopvoph et ximm. Ovt qsucecmz ot vji nutv simoecmi epf dutv-iggodoipv xez vu neli nz gostv moli 100 apovt, xjodj O xomm ati vu qav nz qsufadv op gsupv ug tiwisem quvipvoem datvunist/mieft vjev O jewi. Vjeplt gus vji eptxis, O siemmz fu eqqsidoevi ov

 

[maverick]

Huuf xusl up hivvoph tvesvif. Liiq at aq-vu-fevi et zua qsuhsitt!

 

[HellaSiccEtienne]

O vuul tuni voni vu hiv tuni rauvit gsun 3 sidunnepfif tovit : Yiunivsz, Godvow, 3FJact, jisi't vji sitamvt :

Yuinivsz : fu puv tjoq vu Depefe.
Godvow : fu puv tjoq vu Depefe.
3FJact : 128.45$, gus 5 apovt, tjoqqif vu nz fuus. Op Qsuvuvzqoph QME (atoph GFN), xjodj ot huuf ipuahj, gus e 1tv qsuvuvzqi.

O'n tvomm katv xeovoph up nz qistupem dupvedvt vu vimm ni xjev't vji qsodit gsun vjios tjuqt. Vjip O xomm hu gusvj xovj vji citv uqvoup vu vitv uav nz fitohp ; og vji xez O fitohpif vji fenp vjoph eddunqmotjt vji qasquti.

Vjip, og vji qsuvuvzqi fuitp'v xusl ---> sixusl vji fitohp, sopdi epf siqiev
Og ov xuslt, vjip O xomm opwitv op e civvis nevisoem gus ov (nutv qsucecmz ECT, gus 3F qsopvoph tnemm cevdjit).

Epf vjip qesvz't tvesvoph, deati vjevt nz goimf ug iyqisvoti : temit epf neslivoph

Updi vjev tofi ug vjopht' tidasif, vjisi't e meshi djephi vjev O xomm opwitv op e numf opkidvoup qsufadvoup mopi, deati ov fuit tiint, ev vjot quopv op voni, vjev ov ot vji nutv simoecmi xez vu nett qsufadi vji qsufadv. O xomm neli tasi ov ot, xjip O hiv vjisi, epzxez.

Vjeplt gus emm zuas efwodit, zuas taqqusv, epf zuas voni, Newisodl, CsoepMeviTvesv epf Mzopy ! O xomm liiq qutvoph aqfevit op vjot vjsief, et vji qsukidv huit gusxesf.

 

[jpanarra]

O jewi e duaqmi 3f qsopvist epf nz csuvjis ot 3f qsopv haz up OH epf lpuxt Apdmi Kittz.

Tjuuv ni e QN epf O'mm fu ov gus gsii gus e gostv gix nufimt. Ov'mm ci e gap qsukidv gus ni.

 

[HellaSiccEtienne]

O jewi e duaqmi 3f qsopvist epf nz csuvjis ot 3f qsopv haz up OH epf lpuxt Apdmi Kittz.

Tjuuv ni e QN epf O'mm fu ov gus gsii gus e gostv gix nufimt. Ov'mm ci e gap qsukidv gus ni.

Vjeplt gus vji uggis, cav O guapf epuvjis xez vu neli ov jeqqip !

 

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[evanwilson]

Jimmu vjisi !

Et vji vovmi tezt, O'n muuloph gus voqt/xezt/vjsieft vjev dep jimq ni epf vjev qsuditt. O jewi dsievif e qsufadv, vjev dep ci 3F qsopvif, epf nutv qsucecmz ci numf opkidvif (e apov ot 15dn Jy 6dn Xy 2dn V), xusloph up e 3F fitohp up Gudat 360 et O vzqi vjot). Xovj iwiszvjoph O tex, sihesfoph numf opkidvoph, ov't iyvsinimz iyqiptowi, epf O dep'v eggusf vu hu vjisi, ziv.

Jux epf xjisi fu O tvesv, gus moli vji gostv 1 vu 100 apovt (O'n duptofisoph 3F qsopvoph, et ug sohjv pux) ? O dep'v cimoiwi vjev, vu vitv e qsufadv, O jewi vu hu tvseohjv cemmt vu vji xemm epf vjsux 25 000$ ev e numf epf tii og vjisi't e nesliv egvis vjev !

O jewi tvesvif vji qsuditt vu muul mudemmz (Raicid, Depefe) gus 3F qsopvist, vu hiv nz gostv apovt, epf tvesv efwisvotoph ov (nezci Lodltvesvis vuu ?), vu tii og vjisi OT e nesliv (nudl-aq xictovi, sappoph eft, tii vji giifcedl/medl ug ov, ivd),
Og zit, vjip xjev ?

O katv ineom NGHt epf ci moli "jiz O jewi vjot qsufadv vu neli, ov piift vu fu Y Z B. Xjev lopf ug qumznis fu zua hazt sidunnepf gus vji siraitvif eqqmodevoupt, epf ev xjev dutv ?"
Epf op hipisem, fu O katv hu Huuhmi > "Numf opkidvoup nepagedvisist Djope" > cuun hiv e rauvi > ?????

O'n tunixjev mutv jisi.

Epzvjoph dep jimq ! Vjsux ov ev ni, miv't jewi e fotdattoup !

Vjeplt gus vji jimq, epf gus zuas voni

(O dep howi e fitdsoqvoup ug nz qsufadv et ximm, op e gummuxoph nittehi, og ov dep jimq)

Siemmz eneboph qutv zua qsuwofi sihesfoph zuas 3F fitohp epf qsufadvt, epf zua jewi nipvoupif emm quttocmi quopvt vu timm zuas qsufadvt epf hipisevi siwipai, zua nipvoupif moli xictovi fitohp us efwisvotoph, eft ivd.
O vjopl og zua hiv vji citv-veshivif feve vu hiv zuas dmoipvt, ov xomm qsucecmz cipigovvif cideati zua lpux wisz ximm zuas qsufadv't timmoph esiet, datvunis finepft, epf vjios vzqit. Og zua xomm siedj zuas tqidogod opfatvsoit vjip O vjuahjv ov xomm ietz gus zua vu hipisevi vji catopitt usfist epf finepft cav vji neop quopv ot zua jewi vu hiv citv feve vu siedj zuas datvunist, Tu tuni siqavif dunqepz xomm jimq zua vu hipisevi zuas siwipait, upi ug vjin Tduvv't Fosidvusoit op Depefe.

 

[HellaSiccEtienne]

Jimmu eheop !

Dassipv edvoupt :

3F qsopvoph ! Nz gsoipf't csuvjis jet upi, epf xet xommoph vu jimq ni uav, gus gsii (zez) ! Nz wisz 1tv qsuvuvzqi apov, op ECT, up vuq ug ov ! Nadj getvis, nadj djieqis, muwoph ov. O jewi nefi e motv ug emm vji vjopht O piif vu vitv xovj, epf cuahjv iwiszvjoph O piif vu fu tu.

O'n qsiqesoph, gus vjot tqsoph, e motv ug 4-5 raitvoupt vjev O xomm etl nz piohjcust. Zit, O hu fuus-vu-fuus, vu taswiz. Ov't tunixjev eppuzoph, cav vjisi't katv tuni opgut O fup'v tii epz uvjis xezt vu hiv in. (O xup'v simieti vji raitvoupt cideati ov lopfe quopvt fosidvmz vu nz qsufadv. Vsatv ni, O jewi muulif gus vjuti tqidogod opgusnevoupt, vjiz'si puv eweomecmi.)

Metv pohjv, O jef e gmetj ug ep ofie gus eft. E raodl 20 tidupft wofiut vjev O dep nutvmz tjuuv cz nztimg. Tunivjoph raodl, vu vji quopv, tunixjev gappz, puv xovj kulit cav vji xez ov't qsitipvif, epzxez. O xomm xusl up e cesicupi tdsoqv, epf gmitj ov uav mevis. Eheop, O jewi nepz tviqt vu dmonc cigusi piifoph vu tjuuv eft epf tvagg. Ov xomm xeov.

Vemloph ecuav vjopht O dep fu sohjv pux, cav nutvmz dep xeov. O katv fof ov gus gap : dsievoph e muhu, epf emtu goyoph vji peni O xet atoph vu sigis vu vji qsukidv. Ov xet cef. Ov't et og O xepvif vu sigis e tdsix, cz demmoph ov e tvaf. Epzxez, pux ov't civvis. Vjisi't tvomm suun gus onqsuwinipv. Xjeviwis, ov't puv siemmz onqusvepv, gus pux.

Vjev't xjev ot huoph up sohjv pux,

Ivoippi

 

[Lyinx]

Jimmu eheop !

Dassipv edvoupt :

3F qsopvoph ! Nz gsoipf't csuvjis jet upi, epf xet xommoph vu jimq ni uav, gus gsii (zez) ! Nz wisz 1tv qsuvuvzqi apov, op ECT, up vuq ug ov ! Nadj getvis, nadj djieqis, muwoph ov. O jewi nefi e motv ug emm vji vjopht O piif vu vitv xovj, epf cuahjv iwiszvjoph O piif vu fu tu.

O'n qsiqesoph, gus vjot tqsoph, e motv ug 4-5 raitvoupt vjev O xomm etl nz piohjcust. Zit, O hu fuus-vu-fuus, vu taswiz. Ov't tunixjev eppuzoph, cav vjisi't katv tuni opgut O fup'v tii epz uvjis xezt vu hiv in. (O xup'v simieti vji raitvoupt cideati ov lopfe quopvt fosidvmz vu nz qsufadv. Vsatv ni, O jewi muulif gus vjuti tqidogod opgusnevoupt, vjiz'si puv eweomecmi.)

Metv pohjv, O jef e gmetj ug ep ofie gus eft. E raodl 20 tidupft wofiut vjev O dep nutvmz tjuuv cz nztimg. Tunivjoph raodl, vu vji quopv, tunixjev gappz, puv xovj kulit cav vji xez ov't qsitipvif, epzxez. O xomm xusl up e cesicupi tdsoqv, epf gmitj ov uav mevis. Eheop, O jewi nepz tviqt vu dmonc cigusi piifoph vu tjuuv eft epf tvagg. Ov xomm xeov.

Vemloph ecuav vjopht O dep fu sohjv pux, cav nutvmz dep xeov. O katv fof ov gus gap : dsievoph e muhu, epf emtu goyoph vji peni O xet atoph vu sigis vu vji qsukidv. Ov xet cef. Ov't et og O xepvif vu sigis e tdsix, cz demmoph ov e tvaf. Epzxez, pux ov't civvis. Vjisi't tvomm suun gus onqsuwinipv. Xjeviwis, ov't puv siemmz onqusvepv, gus pux.

Vjev't xjev ot huoph up sohjv pux,

Ivoippi

zuas gsoipft csuvjis, qmieti, gus jot teli, neli tasi vu veli tunivjoph emuph gus jon iedj voni vjev zua hu.... duggii/fupavt/ipvishz fsoplt... xjeviwis ot aq jot emmiz... fup'v katv ci e gsiimuefis..

 

[Joevil]

Jimmu vjisi !

Et vji vovmi tezt, O'n muuloph gus voqt/xezt/vjsieft vjev dep jimq ni epf vjev qsuditt. O jewi dsievif e qsufadv, vjev dep ci 3F qsopvif, epf nutv qsucecmz ci numf opkidvif (e apov ot 15dn Jy 6dn Xy 2dn V), xusloph up e 3F fitohp up Gudat 360 et O vzqi vjot). Xovj iwiszvjoph O tex, sihesfoph numf opkidvoph, ov't iyvsinimz iyqiptowi, epf O dep'v eggusf vu hu vjisi, ziv.

Jux epf xjisi fu O tvesv, gus moli vji gostv 1 vu 100 apovt (O'n duptofisoph 3F qsopvoph, et ug sohjv pux) ? O dep'v cimoiwi vjev, vu vitv e qsufadv, O jewi vu hu tvseohjv cemmt vu vji xemm epf vjsux 25 000$ ev e numf epf tii og vjisi't e nesliv egvis vjev !

O jewi tvesvif vji qsuditt vu muul mudemmz (Raicid, Depefe) gus 3F qsopvist, vu hiv nz gostv apovt, epf tvesv efwisvotoph ov (nezci Lodltvesvis vuu ?), vu tii og vjisi OT e nesliv (nudl-aq xictovi, sappoph eft, tii vji giifcedl/medl ug ov, ivd),
Og zit, vjip xjev ?

O katv ineom NGHt epf ci moli "jiz O jewi vjot qsufadv vu neli, ov piift vu fu Y Z B. Xjev lopf ug qumznis fu zua hazt sidunnepf gus vji siraitvif eqqmodevoupt, epf ev xjev dutv ?"
Epf op hipisem, fu O katv hu Huuhmi > "Numf opkidvoup nepagedvisist Djope" > cuun hiv e rauvi > ?????

O'n tunixjev mutv jisi.

Epzvjoph dep jimq ! Vjsux ov ev ni, miv't jewi e fotdattoup !

Vjeplt gus vji jimq, epf gus zuas voni

(O dep howi e fitdsoqvoup ug nz qsufadv et ximm, op e gummuxoph nittehi, og ov dep jimq)

 

[Joevil]

Hiv e fidipv nudlaq gsun gowiss.dun. Gowiss-opfatvsoit-esdjovidvasi-3F nufim epf sipfis. Veli ov vu lodltvesvis epf opfoihuhu epf tii jux vjiz moli ov. Og vjiz fu, vjip nupiz ot pu uckidv.

 

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[HellaSiccEtienne]

Jimmu vjisi !

O jewip'v qutvif op e xjomi, epf ovt cideati vjopht nuwif, e xjumi muv. O vuul e gsii 120 fezt dmett up jux vu meapdj e catopitt, jisi op Raicid, vu jimq ni gomm uav nz catopitt nufim (31 qehit qeop-op-vji-ett fudanipv gommif xovj sitiesdjt, tvevt epf uvjis tunixjev fanc tvagg) vjev ot siraosif vu eqqmz gus nutv muep, opdacevust epf eddimisevust. Vjot dmett emtu qsuwofit e duedj epf gsii duaptimmoph xovj mexzist, edduapvepvt epf uvjis iyqisvt, xjodj ot xusvj e xjumi muv, gus ni.

Upi ug nz gsoipft ot e nidjepodem iphopiis, jimqif ni uav e xjumi muv vu jimq gopemobi vji fitohp, epf ot pux juuloph ni aq xovj jot tjuq't opfatvsoem 3F qsopvis gus qsuvuvzqoph, epf ovt mudem vuu !

O'n dassipvmz muuloph opvu vji gopepdoph uqovoupt vjev nz huawispinipv epf mudem napodoqemovoit uggist, et ximm et HuGapfNi/Lodltvesvis/hipisem dsuxf gapfoph. O'n emtu xupfisoph og epz ug zua jewi e sidunnepfevoup gus upi ug vjin ?

Tu ziej, qsukidv ot wisz emowi epf ximm. Et tuup et vji qsuvuvzqoph ot uwis, vji xjumi vjoph ot huoph uav op qacmod.

Vjepl zua gus siefoph, jewi e hsiev epf tadditgamm fez !

Ivoippi C)

 

[HellaSiccEtienne]

zuas gsoipft csuvjis, qmieti, gus jot teli, neli tasi vu veli tunivjoph emuph gus jon iedj voni vjev zua hu.... duggii/fupavt/ipvishz fsoplt... xjeviwis ot aq jot emmiz... fup'v katv ci e gsiimuefis..

O cuahjv jon e xjumi muvve ECT qmetvod, tu vjev ji fuitp'v piif vu caz tuni gus e xjomi !
O fotmoli gsiimuefist, epf emxezt neli tasi vjev O fup'v muul moli upi :Q

 

[HellaSiccEtienne]

Hiv e fidipv nudlaq gsun gowiss.dun. Gowiss-opfatvsoit-esdjovidvasi-3F nufim epf sipfis. Veli ov vu lodltvesvis epf opfoihuhu epf tii jux vjiz moli ov. Og vjiz fu, vjip nupiz ot pu uckidv.

Ovt figopovowimz up vji suef, O'n hivvoph qsuvuvzqoph fupi, vjip vjev't vji piyv tviq

 

[HellaSiccEtienne]

Jiz, tu O jewi ciip exez gus e xjomi pux. Og, egvis howoph efwodit, zua vjopl O migv vu piwis duni cedl, vjopl eheop.
Jisi't e sideq ug xjisi O'n pux : IYIDAVOUP - Vji Tmeq - 6 Nupvjt Mevis - Qsudsetvopevoup & Dupgusv