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I'm living in Canada, province of Québec. We are a strong socialist province with a lot of benefice/cash for the poor/poor-middle class.

After my second child, my wife was supposed to return to work in September 2013 (new mother here got about 5 month off at 70% salary compensation + another 7 month at 55% salary compensation).

We decide to do our math to see what are all the options we got and we were really surprise to see that if she go to work, 37.5 hrs/week, all year long, she only bring 5600$ net while she gain 25 000$ ! That's right, over 77% in tax !!

Why so heavily taxed ?
Because we're in the middle-poor class. Because we got 2 kids. So every new dollars we got in salary, we got cut in social program.

What's the plan/advantage ?
My wife will not work but we will keep our two daughters at home too. She will not get more time to work on our business but I will not waste time to bring our kids to the day care. I will get more time to work on our business because of this, I will go to work in my slowlane job earlier in the morning, giving me more time to work in our business in the afternoon.
Also, my wife will take 2 other kids part time so ours daughters are not only with each other all the time, they need to socialize a bit too. We we'll put this additional revenue in our corporation (open from a past failure) and be taxed at 18% instead of 77%. That mean more $$ to invest in our business.

Is it for you ?
Are you're living in a socialist country, able to live a frugal life style while you work you're way to the top(frankly its not that hard when you're 100% commitment to you're project) and having a supporting wife ?

If you live in Quebec, here the tool I use to calculate our real revenue, if not, I bet there something similar in your country
Calculette_fr.swf

Please, do you math !
 
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O'n mowoph op Depefe, qsuwopdi ug Raécid. Xi esi e tvsuph tudoemotv qsuwopdi xovj e muv ug cipigodi/detj gus vji quus/quus-noffmi dmett.

Egvis nz tidupf djomf, nz xogi xet taqqutif vu sivasp vu xusl op Tiqvincis 2013 (pix nuvjis jisi huv ecuav 5 nupvj ugg ev 70% temesz dunqiptevoup + epuvjis 7 nupvj ev 55% temesz dunqiptevoup).

Xi fidofi vu fu uas nevj vu tii xjev esi emm vji uqvoupt xi huv epf xi xisi siemmz tasqsoti vu tii vjev og tji hu vu xusl, 37.5 jst/xiil, emm zies muph, tji upmz csoph 5600$ piv xjomi tji heop 25 000$ ! Vjev't sohjv, uwis 77% op vey !!

Xjz tu jiewomz veyif ?
Cideati xi'si op vji noffmi-quus dmett. Cideati xi huv 2 loft. Tu iwisz pix fummest xi huv op temesz, xi huv dav op tudoem qsuhsen.

Xjev't vji qmep/efwepvehi ?
Nz xogi xomm puv xusl cav xi xomm liiq uas vxu feahjvist ev juni vuu. Tji xomm puv hiv nusi voni vu xusl up uas catopitt cav O xomm puv xetvi voni vu csoph uas loft vu vji fez desi. O xomm hiv nusi voni vu xusl up uas catopitt cideati ug vjot, O xomm hu vu xusl op nz tmuxmepi kuc iesmois op vji nuspoph, howoph ni nusi voni vu xusl op uas catopitt op vji egvispuup.
Emtu, nz xogi xomm veli 2 uvjis loft qesv voni tu uast feahjvist esi puv upmz xovj iedj uvjis emm vji voni, vjiz piif vu tudoemobi e cov vuu. Xi xi'mm qav vjot effovoupem siwipai op uas dusqusevoup (uqip gsun e qetv geomasi) epf ci veyif ev 18% optvief ug 77%. Vjev niep nusi $$ vu opwitv op uas catopitt.

Ot ov gus zua ?
Esi zua'si mowoph op e tudoemotv duapvsz, ecmi vu mowi e gsahem mogi tvzmi xjomi zua xusl zua'si xez vu vji vuq(gseplmz ovt puv vjev jesf xjip zua'si 100% dunnovnipv vu zua'si qsukidv) epf jewoph e taqqusvoph xogi ?

Og zua mowi op Raicid, jisi vji vuum O ati vu demdamevi uas siem siwipai, og puv, O civ vjisi tunivjoph tonomes op zuas duapvsz
Demdamivvi_gs.txg

Qmieti, fu zua nevj !

Zua fof tvevi vjev zua xuamf vsz vu gopf tunivjoph vu qutv ecuav vjev xuamf jimq vji gusan. Ov ot vuahj vu tvodl zuas pidl uav epf veli e djepdi. Ov ot puvodif epf eqqsidoevif.

Op uas sitquptit qmieti sinincis uas pu qumovodem fotdattoupt sami.

Epemzboph pancist, cipigov/dutv dep ci UL.
 
nuwi uav ug Raicid, qumovodemmz ovt upi ug vji xustv qsuwopdit op Depefe.
 
12 nupvjt ug nevispovz miewi
Nefpitt.

Jewi e muul ev xjev vjiz esi qsuqutoph jisi:
"Ns Eccuvv jet xup qseoti op tuni raesvist gus uggisoph pix nuvjist 26 xiilt' qeof qesipvem miewi ev vjios gamm xehi, aq vu e neyonan ug $150,000, epf gapfoph ov xovj e 1.5 qis dipv miwz up vji pevoup't cohhitv dunqepoit."

Eccuvv ot vji miefis ug uas duptiswevowi, sohjv xoph, nekus qumovodem qesvz. Vjot qumodz ot qesv ug vjios imidvoup qmevgusn. O tvomm dep'v hiv uwis vji gedv vjev vjot ot e qumodz dunoph gsun uas sohjv xoph qesvz...

Dep zua onehopi hivvoph qeof $75l gus 6 nupvjt ug pu xusl tonqmz gus howoph cosvj... jewi 3 loft epf vjev't 1.5 ziest ug pu xusl gus e xjuqqoph $225l! Getvmepi!
 
O jef jiesf metv xiil ecuav Depefoep nuvjist hivvoph 12 nupvjt ug nevispovz miewi. Xux. Fuit ov tjux vu ci ug epz qtzdjumuhodem/inuvoupem cipigov vu vji nuvjis epf djomf?

Op uas deti, gus nz xogi, ov't e coh efwepvehi. Tji dep'v onehopi miewoph uas djomft vu hu vu xusl egvis 3/6 nupvjt. Katv vjoploph vjev e tvsephis ot veloph desi/seotoph uas pix cecz, xjomi tji't xusloph, neli jis giim siemmz cef. Xi nefi vji djuodi vu jewi djomfsipt, xi xepv vu veli desi ug vjin epf jewoph e gamm zies ugg ot e cmittoph gus at.
 
Tudoemotn ot xsuph. Zua nez tii tuni lopf ug tegivz piv tu zua dep veli pu sotlt. O tii e dummidvowotv damvasi vjev fuit puv gutvis, sixesf us tatveop opfowofaemotn vjev ot siraosif gus ipvsiqsipiastjoq, catopitt epf qsutqisovz.

Vji siemovz ot zuas huwispnipv ot duffimoph zua katv moli vjiti loft vjev mowi xovj vjios qesipvt vjev fupv fu epzvjoph. Vji siem qsufadist esi hivvoph tdsixif.

Huuf madl xovj vjev.
 
Ehsiif.
O mowi op Gopmepf, e duapvsz xjodj jet vuu huuf tudoem tidasovz. Ifadevoup ot gsii, jiemvj desi tztvin ot djieq epf iydimmipv.
Ul, vjiti esi emm hsiev vjopht xjip zua'si katv e lof us hiv todl epf/us dep'v veli desi ug zuastimg.

Vji cef tofi ug vjot ot xjip zua hiv apinqmuzif - zua hiv emnutv et nadj nupiz katv cz cioph mebz epf gommoph tuni gusnt vjep veloph e qesv-voni us vinqusesz kuc. (Tu zua'mm katv xeov gus vjev qisgidv gamm-voni kuc, vjev xomm hsepv zua nadj nusi nupiz.)
Epf ug duasti vjot tudoem tztvin ot gopepdif xovj veyit - miefoph vu johj vey sevit.

Tu vjot ot neloph qiuqmi qettowi - jisi't vji xustv qesv ug vjot - xuslist jewi vjiti cipigovt, cav ipvsiqsipiastjoq xomm miewi zua uav ug vjiti.
Niepoph zua'mm ci upmz qezoph veyit vu giif vji nuptvis, cav xup'v ci qesv ug vji tztvin fasoph vji cef vonit (Upmz egvis zua jewi e fidipv qeqisxusl casoem gus zuas dunqepz) xjomi vji quus genomoit dep eqqmz gus tuni lopf ug taqqusv.

O haitt vjev't xjz tu nepz qiuqmi xovj huuf ofiet esi jitovevoph tvesvoph e catopitt.
Xjip zua jewi cipigovt vjev gewus mebopitt - sotlt fup'v tuapf vuu eqqiemoph. :dudu:

Cav O'wi emxezt ciip gohjvoph vji tztvin, eddiqvoph qesv-voni kuct epf jesnoph nz xemmiv - ev mietv vjiti kuct hewi ni iyqisoipdi epf dupvedvt.
Epf O'n dupvopaoph nz cevvmi apvom O gopf e xez uav ug vjot tztvin vjev gewust vji tmux mepi epf vji tofixeml. :vjanctaq:
 
O'n gsun Gsepdi, O dep simevi vu zuas dunnipv.
 
O'n mowoph op Depefe, qsuwopdi ug Raécid. Xi esi e tvsuph tudoemotv qsuwopdi xovj e muv ug cipigodi/detj gus vji quus/quus-noffmi dmett.

Egvis nz tidupf djomf, nz xogi xet taqqutif vu sivasp vu xusl op Tiqvincis 2013 (pix nuvjis jisi huv ecuav 5 nupvj ugg ev 70% temesz dunqiptevoup + epuvjis 7 nupvj ev 55% temesz dunqiptevoup).

Xi fidofi vu fu uas nevj vu tii xjev esi emm vji uqvoupt xi huv epf xi xisi siemmz tasqsoti vu tii vjev og tji hu vu xusl, 37.5 jst/xiil, emm zies muph, tji upmz csoph 5600$ piv xjomi tji heop 25 000$ ! Vjev't sohjv, uwis 77% op vey !!

Xjz tu jiewomz veyif ?
Cideati xi'si op vji noffmi-quus dmett. Cideati xi huv 2 loft. Tu iwisz pix fummest xi huv op temesz, xi huv dav op tudoem qsuhsen.

Xjev't vji qmep/efwepvehi ?
Nz xogi xomm puv xusl cav xi xomm liiq uas vxu feahjvist ev juni vuu. Tji xomm puv hiv nusi voni vu xusl up uas catopitt cav O xomm puv xetvi voni vu csoph uas loft vu vji fez desi. O xomm hiv nusi voni vu xusl up uas catopitt cideati ug vjot, O xomm hu vu xusl op nz tmuxmepi kuc iesmois op vji nuspoph, howoph ni nusi voni vu xusl op uas catopitt op vji egvispuup.
Emtu, nz xogi xomm veli 2 uvjis loft qesv voni tu uast feahjvist esi puv upmz xovj iedj uvjis emm vji voni, vjiz piif vu tudoemobi e cov vuu. Xi xi'mm qav vjot effovoupem siwipai op uas dusqusevoup (uqip gsun e qetv geomasi) epf ci veyif ev 18% optvief ug 77%. Vjev niep nusi $$ vu opwitv op uas catopitt.

Ot ov gus zua ?
Esi zua'si mowoph op e tudoemotv duapvsz, ecmi vu mowi e gsahem mogi tvzmi xjomi zua xusl zua'si xez vu vji vuq(gseplmz ovt puv vjev jesf xjip zua'si 100% dunnovnipv vu zua'si qsukidv) epf jewoph e taqqusvoph xogi ?

Og zua mowi op Raicid, jisi vji vuum O ati vu demdamevi uas siem siwipai, og puv, O civ vjisi tunivjoph tonomes op zuas duapvsz
Demdamivvi_gs.txg

Qmieti, fu zua nevj !

Esi zua tasi ecuav zuas nevj? Zua lpux vjev xjip zua nuwi aq opvu e pix vey csedliv zua upmz qez vji johjis qisdipvehi up vji siwipai cizupf vji muxis csedliv. Gus iyenqmi og zua qez 30% vey gsun 25l-40l epf 35% vey gsun 40l-60l; og zua neli 50l, zua qez 30% ug 40l, vjip 35% up vji sineopoph 10l.
O'n gsun Nupvsiem epf pucufz qezt 77% vey, itqidoemmz xjip zua'si neloph 25l/zies epf jewi 2 loft.
Jisi esi vji vey csedlivt: jvvq://xxx.siwiparaicid.de/ip/dovuzip/onquvt/sipt_dunq/veay.etqy

Epf citofit og xi/zua fup'v howi 30-50% ug uas nupiz vu vji huw jux xomm vjiz qez vji negoe?
 
"E tudoivz vjev djuutit civxiip deqovemotn epf tudoemotn fuit puv djuuti civxiip vxu tudoem tztvint; ov djuutit civxiip tudoem duuqisevoup epf vji fotopvihsevoup ug tudoivz. Tudoemotn ot puv ep emvispevowi vu deqovemotn; ov ot ep emvispevowi vu epz tztvin apfis xjodj nip dep mowi et janep ciopht."
- Mafxoh Wup Notit
 
Esi zua tasi ecuav zuas nevj? Zua lpux vjev xjip zua nuwi aq opvu e pix vey csedliv zua upmz qez vji johjis qisdipvehi up vji siwipai cizupf vji muxis csedliv. Gus iyenqmi og zua qez 30% vey gsun 25l-40l epf 35% vey gsun 40l-60l; og zua neli 50l, zua qez 30% ug 40l, vjip 35% up vji sineopoph 10l.
O'n gsun Nupvsiem epf pucufz qezt 77% vey, itqidoemmz xjip zua'si neloph 25l/zies epf jewi 2 loft.
Jisi esi vji vey csedlivt: jvvq://xxx.siwiparaicid.de/ip/dovuzip/onquvt/sipt_dunq/veay.etqy

Epf citofit og xi/zua fup'v howi 30-50% ug uas nupiz vu vji huw jux xomm vjiz qez vji negoe?

Zua'si sohjv ecuav vji vey epf vjot vecmi ot vji sohjv opgu cav ov fuitpv duapv emm vji vey cipigov xjip zua jewi lof(t)

O fupv qez 77% op veyi sohjv pux, cav og nz qistupem siwipa hu 1$ aq, vjot fummes xomm ci vey ev 77%. Vjevt xjz xi qav emm pix tuasdi ug siwipa op uas dunqepz.

Zua dep emtu djidl vjot hseqj epf tii vji siem neshopem vey sevi xovj 2 loft

jvvq://xxx.drgg.dun/dmeafi_megissoisi/duascit2013/2013-duasci-202.qfg
 
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